Posey vs Kobe

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This kills me. From today's Daily Dime:

"On Tuesday, the Hornets displayed 2008 All-Stars Chris Paul and David West in all their glory. Paul wheeled and dealed for 32 points and 15 assists, with no turnovers. West matched his career high with 40 points, to go with 11 rebounds. They were missing the elements of Peja Stojakovic's marksmanship (he missed five of six 3-pointers) and Tyson Chandler's inside presence (only eight rebounds, no blocked shots). But they showed the new addition: James Posey's attitude.

Posey was guarding Bryant in the second quarter and fouled the Lakers' star early on a drive, but as Bryant continued to the hoop after the whistle blew Posey took a whack at him. That drew a technical foul from Joey Crawford. It was worth it. Posey made his point, without giving a free one to the Lakers, as Bryant missed the free throw.

"They tell the defender to stop," Posey said. "If I should stop, the offensive player should stop, as well. I wasn't allowing continuation on that.

"That's just how I play. I make my presence felt. Not just that, but throughout the course of the game. That's just how I play.""

Um, anyone remember when this was a calling card of the Cs last year? There's been alot of talk about hitting the Cs first (Outlaw, 5'6" DJ Augustin), but I though this was a good example of the swagger that seems to have left the proverbial Celtics building.

Seriously, when is Perk gonna clobber somebody out of frustration? I welcome it.

[dark_lord]

thats why i liked posey as much as i did

[Gomesfan]

This kills me. From today's Daily Dime:

"On Tuesday, the Hornets displayed 2008 All-Stars Chris Paul and David West in all their glory. Paul wheeled and dealed for 32 points and 15 assists, with no turnovers. West matched his career high with 40 points, to go with 11 rebounds. They were missing the elements of Peja Stojakovic's marksmanship (he missed five of six 3-pointers) and Tyson Chandler's inside presence (only eight rebounds, no blocked shots). But they showed the new addition: James Posey's attitude.

Posey was guarding Bryant in the second quarter and fouled the Lakers' star early on a drive, but as Bryant continued to the hoop after the whistle blew Posey took a whack at him. That drew a technical foul from Joey Crawford. It was worth it. Posey made his point, without giving a free one to the Lakers, as Bryant missed the free throw.

"They tell the defender to stop," Posey said. "If I should stop, the offensive player should stop, as well. I wasn't allowing continuation on that.

"That's just how I play. I make my presence felt. Not just that, but throughout the course of the game. That's just how I play.""

Um, anyone remember when this was a calling card of the Cs last year? There's been alot of talk about hitting the Cs first (Outlaw, 5'6" DJ Augustin), but I though this was a good example of the swagger that seems to have left the proverbial Celtics building.

Seriously, when is Perk gonna clobber somebody out of frustration? I welcome it.

TP, Great post , I couldn't agree more!We need an enforcer and Perk is just not doing it.

[crownsy]

This kills me. From today's Daily Dime:

"On Tuesday, the Hornets displayed 2008 All-Stars Chris Paul and David West in all their glory. Paul wheeled and dealed for 32 points and 15 assists, with no turnovers. West matched his career high with 40 points, to go with 11 rebounds. They were missing the elements of Peja Stojakovic's marksmanship (he missed five of six 3-pointers) and Tyson Chandler's inside presence (only eight rebounds, no blocked shots). But they showed the new addition: James Posey's attitude.

Posey was guarding Bryant in the second quarter and fouled the Lakers' star early on a drive, but as Bryant continued to the hoop after the whistle blew Posey took a whack at him. That drew a technical foul from Joey Crawford. It was worth it. Posey made his point, without giving a free one to the Lakers, as Bryant missed the free throw.

"They tell the defender to stop," Posey said. "If I should stop, the offensive player should stop, as well. I wasn't allowing continuation on that.

"That's just how I play. I make my presence felt. Not just that, but throughout the course of the game. That's just how I play.""

Um, anyone remember when this was a calling card of the Cs last year? There's been alot of talk about hitting the Cs first (Outlaw, 5'6" DJ Augustin), but I though this was a good example of the swagger that seems to have left the proverbial Celtics building.

Seriously, when is Perk gonna clobber somebody out of frustration? I welcome it.

TP, Great post , I couldn't agree more!We need an enforcer and Perk is just not doing it.

you don't suppose it has anything to do with the fact that when he was doing that he was on a recored pace technical foul wise do you? 

perk has clearly been told to tone it down, and his play has declined since he started trying to not give the officals anything to T him up on.

Perk's a emotinal guy  (like KG) but doesn't have the vetran "don't tech me" status that KG has. since he's stopped getting T's he's been much less into the game.

[CelticsWhat35]

I believe the Celtics were doing it earlier in the year and being called "thugs" for it.  It also helped Perk get 8 or 9 techs in the first month of the season.

[TatteredOnMySleeve]

Poseys great...miss him

[crownsy]

I believe the Celtics were doing it earlier in the year and being called "thugs" for it.  It also helped Perk get 8 or 9 techs in the first month of the season.

yep, back then this kind of behavior was reprehesible. Can't have it both ways.

Its just like the posters that want rajon to shoot more when open to improve his jumper in game situations then whine when he misses during games.

[Celtic]

Ahhh Posey, what I wouldn't give for him on this team right now.

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This kills me. From today's Daily Dime:

"On Tuesday, the Hornets displayed 2008 All-Stars Chris Paul and David West in all their glory. Paul wheeled and dealed for 32 points and 15 assists, with no turnovers. West matched his career high with 40 points, to go with 11 rebounds. They were missing the elements of Peja Stojakovic's marksmanship (he missed five of six 3-pointers) and Tyson Chandler's inside presence (only eight rebounds, no blocked shots). But they showed the new addition: James Posey's attitude.

Posey was guarding Bryant in the second quarter and fouled the Lakers' star early on a drive, but as Bryant continued to the hoop after the whistle blew Posey took a whack at him. That drew a technical foul from Joey Crawford. It was worth it. Posey made his point, without giving a free one to the Lakers, as Bryant missed the free throw.

"They tell the defender to stop," Posey said. "If I should stop, the offensive player should stop, as well. I wasn't allowing continuation on that.

"That's just how I play. I make my presence felt. Not just that, but throughout the course of the game. That's just how I play.""

Um, anyone remember when this was a calling card of the Cs last year? There's been alot of talk about hitting the Cs first (Outlaw, 5'6" DJ Augustin), but I though this was a good example of the swagger that seems to have left the proverbial Celtics building.

Seriously, when is Perk gonna clobber somebody out of frustration? I welcome it.

TP, Great post , I couldn't agree more!We need an enforcer and Perk is just not doing it.

you don't suppose it has anything to do with the fact that when he was doing that he was on a recored pace technical foul wise do you? 

perk has clearly been told to tone it down, and his play has declined since he started trying to not give the officals anything to T him up on.

Perk's a emotinal guy  (like KG) but doesn't have the vetran "don't tech me" status that KG has. since he's stopped getting T's he's been much less into the game.

I don't need the   thing. I'm perfectly aware of Perk's Ts. I'm also aware that despite the fact that he's figured out how to hit the braod side of a barn with his hook shot, Perk still has a specific and important role on this team.

I'm not pleased about being called soft by rookies and jumpshooters. I still want him to clobber someone. If you prefer, Baby can do it, or Leon, though I like the idea less that way. And I have not been one on here posting about the Cs being "thugs" or losing respect thru talk: doesn't worry me in the slightest. So my point remains the still the same.

by the way, i agree with you about his imvolvement. i think a raise of the stakes would mean a hightened engagement from the lad.

[crownsy]

This kills me. From today's Daily Dime:

"On Tuesday, the Hornets displayed 2008 All-Stars Chris Paul and David West in all their glory. Paul wheeled and dealed for 32 points and 15 assists, with no turnovers. West matched his career high with 40 points, to go with 11 rebounds. They were missing the elements of Peja Stojakovic's marksmanship (he missed five of six 3-pointers) and Tyson Chandler's inside presence (only eight rebounds, no blocked shots). But they showed the new addition: James Posey's attitude.

Posey was guarding Bryant in the second quarter and fouled the Lakers' star early on a drive, but as Bryant continued to the hoop after the whistle blew Posey took a whack at him. That drew a technical foul from Joey Crawford. It was worth it. Posey made his point, without giving a free one to the Lakers, as Bryant missed the free throw.

"They tell the defender to stop," Posey said. "If I should stop, the offensive player should stop, as well. I wasn't allowing continuation on that.

"That's just how I play. I make my presence felt. Not just that, but throughout the course of the game. That's just how I play.""

Um, anyone remember when this was a calling card of the Cs last year? There's been alot of talk about hitting the Cs first (Outlaw, 5'6" DJ Augustin), but I though this was a good example of the swagger that seems to have left the proverbial Celtics building.

Seriously, when is Perk gonna clobber somebody out of frustration? I welcome it.

TP, Great post , I couldn't agree more!We need an enforcer and Perk is just not doing it.

you don't suppose it has anything to do with the fact that when he was doing that he was on a recored pace technical foul wise do you? 

perk has clearly been told to tone it down, and his play has declined since he started trying to not give the officals anything to T him up on.

Perk's a emotinal guy  (like KG) but doesn't have the vetran "don't tech me" status that KG has. since he's stopped getting T's he's been much less into the game.

I don't need the   thing. I'm perfectly aware of Perk's Ts. I'm also aware that despite the fact that he's figured out how to hit the braod side of a barn with his hook shot, Perk still has a specific and important role on this team.

I'm not pleased about being called soft by rookies and jumpshooters. I still want him to clobber someone. If you prefer, Baby can do it, or Leon, though I like the idea less that way. And I have not been one on here posting about the Cs being "thugs" or losing respect thru talk: doesn't worry me in the slightest. So my point remains the still the same.

you didn't adresses me or celtic's counter argument in your rush to point out my use of a harmless smiley face. if it really upset you, i take it back.

The entire team was doing this (playing the enforcer) and was leading the league in technical fouls and "most crying by other team about physical defense" press clippings.

Perk was the leading vote getter in that, and was on pace to become an every other day player due to techs. Since then, he in particular has clearly been told to tone it down, he's way more subdued out thier and hasent picked up a tech in a long stretch, but it clearly cost him the enforcer mentaility your ripping him for not having.

So, again, our counterpoint remains. you can't have it both ways. either you turn him loose and deal with the techs because he's not a superstar, or you take this "quieter" version of perk.

so my question is would you rather have once every 2 days perk and have baby/powe start the other games or have him stay on the floor?

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This kills me. From today's Daily Dime:

"On Tuesday, the Hornets displayed 2008 All-Stars Chris Paul and David West in all their glory. Paul wheeled and dealed for 32 points and 15 assists, with no turnovers. West matched his career high with 40 points, to go with 11 rebounds. They were missing the elements of Peja Stojakovic's marksmanship (he missed five of six 3-pointers) and Tyson Chandler's inside presence (only eight rebounds, no blocked shots). But they showed the new addition: James Posey's attitude.

Posey was guarding Bryant in the second quarter and fouled the Lakers' star early on a drive, but as Bryant continued to the hoop after the whistle blew Posey took a whack at him. That drew a technical foul from Joey Crawford. It was worth it. Posey made his point, without giving a free one to the Lakers, as Bryant missed the free throw.

"They tell the defender to stop," Posey said. "If I should stop, the offensive player should stop, as well. I wasn't allowing continuation on that.

"That's just how I play. I make my presence felt. Not just that, but throughout the course of the game. That's just how I play.""

Um, anyone remember when this was a calling card of the Cs last year? There's been alot of talk about hitting the Cs first (Outlaw, 5'6" DJ Augustin), but I though this was a good example of the swagger that seems to have left the proverbial Celtics building.

Seriously, when is Perk gonna clobber somebody out of frustration? I welcome it.

TP, Great post , I couldn't agree more!We need an enforcer and Perk is just not doing it.

you don't suppose it has anything to do with the fact that when he was doing that he was on a recored pace technical foul wise do you? 

perk has clearly been told to tone it down, and his play has declined since he started trying to not give the officals anything to T him up on.

Perk's a emotinal guy  (like KG) but doesn't have the vetran "don't tech me" status that KG has. since he's stopped getting T's he's been much less into the game.

I don't need the   thing. I'm perfectly aware of Perk's Ts. I'm also aware that despite the fact that he's figured out how to hit the braod side of a barn with his hook shot, Perk still has a specific and important role on this team.

I'm not pleased about being called soft by rookies and jumpshooters. I still want him to clobber someone. If you prefer, Baby can do it, or Leon, though I like the idea less that way. And I have not been one on here posting about the Cs being "thugs" or losing respect thru talk: doesn't worry me in the slightest. So my point remains the still the same.

you didn't adresses me or celtic's counter argument in your rush to point out my use of a harmless smiley face.

The entire team was doing this (playing the enforcer) and was leading the league in technical fouls.

Perk was the leading vote getter in that, and was on pace to become an every other day player due to techs. Since then, he in particular has clearly been told to tone it down, he's way more subdued out thier and hasent picked up a tech in a long stretch, but it clearly cost him the enforcer mentaility your ripping him for not having.

So, again, our counterpoint remains. you can't have it both ways. either you turn him loose and deal with the techs because he's not a superstar, or you take this "quieter" version of perk.

so my question is would you rather have once every 2 days perk and have baby/powe start the other games or have him stay on the floor?

 i followed your point from the get-go, bro. like i said, deal with the techs, go back to not letting s****y teams dominate the pait.

[crownsy]

This kills me. From today's Daily Dime:

"On Tuesday, the Hornets displayed 2008 All-Stars Chris Paul and David West in all their glory. Paul wheeled and dealed for 32 points and 15 assists, with no turnovers. West matched his career high with 40 points, to go with 11 rebounds. They were missing the elements of Peja Stojakovic's marksmanship (he missed five of six 3-pointers) and Tyson Chandler's inside presence (only eight rebounds, no blocked shots). But they showed the new addition: James Posey's attitude.

Posey was guarding Bryant in the second quarter and fouled the Lakers' star early on a drive, but as Bryant continued to the hoop after the whistle blew Posey took a whack at him. That drew a technical foul from Joey Crawford. It was worth it. Posey made his point, without giving a free one to the Lakers, as Bryant missed the free throw.

"They tell the defender to stop," Posey said. "If I should stop, the offensive player should stop, as well. I wasn't allowing continuation on that.

"That's just how I play. I make my presence felt. Not just that, but throughout the course of the game. That's just how I play.""

Um, anyone remember when this was a calling card of the Cs last year? There's been alot of talk about hitting the Cs first (Outlaw, 5'6" DJ Augustin), but I though this was a good example of the swagger that seems to have left the proverbial Celtics building.

Seriously, when is Perk gonna clobber somebody out of frustration? I welcome it.

TP, Great post , I couldn't agree more!We need an enforcer and Perk is just not doing it.

you don't suppose it has anything to do with the fact that when he was doing that he was on a recored pace technical foul wise do you? 

perk has clearly been told to tone it down, and his play has declined since he started trying to not give the officals anything to T him up on.

Perk's a emotinal guy  (like KG) but doesn't have the vetran "don't tech me" status that KG has. since he's stopped getting T's he's been much less into the game.

I don't need the   thing. I'm perfectly aware of Perk's Ts. I'm also aware that despite the fact that he's figured out how to hit the braod side of a barn with his hook shot, Perk still has a specific and important role on this team.

I'm not pleased about being called soft by rookies and jumpshooters. I still want him to clobber someone. If you prefer, Baby can do it, or Leon, though I like the idea less that way. And I have not been one on here posting about the Cs being "thugs" or losing respect thru talk: doesn't worry me in the slightest. So my point remains the still the same.

you didn't adresses me or celtic's counter argument in your rush to point out my use of a harmless smiley face.

The entire team was doing this (playing the enforcer) and was leading the league in technical fouls.

Perk was the leading vote getter in that, and was on pace to become an every other day player due to techs. Since then, he in particular has clearly been told to tone it down, he's way more subdued out thier and hasent picked up a tech in a long stretch, but it clearly cost him the enforcer mentaility your ripping him for not having.

So, again, our counterpoint remains. you can't have it both ways. either you turn him loose and deal with the techs because he's not a superstar, or you take this "quieter" version of perk.

so my question is would you rather have once every 2 days perk and have baby/powe start the other games or have him stay on the floor?

 i followed your point from the get-go, bro. like i said, deal with the techs, go back to not letting s****y teams dominate the pait.

fair enough then, but i dont think were going to get a very good seed with baby and leon starting every other game at center due to perk being auto-suspended every addtional tech.

TP for picking a side regardless.

[BballTim]

  We need to play more aggressively but I don't remember us as being especially tougher last year.

[CelticsWhat35]

I don't need an opposing player to be dropped to the floor every time he takes it to the basket, but a little defense wouldn't hurt.  The ease of players getting easy buckets of late, which was glaring last night, has little to do with players not taking the role of enforcer, and much more to do with players just flat out missing assignments and not communicating with each other.

[crownsy]

I don't need an opposing player to be dropped to the floor every time he takes it to the basket, but a little defense wouldn't hurt.  The ease of players getting easy buckets of late, which was glaring last night, has little to do with players not taking the role of enforcer, and much more to do with players just flat out missing assignments and not communicating with each other.

yea, our rotations in the half court have been awful.

I mean, to some degree, i can forgive bad defense on breaks. Thats going to happen. But break downs of screens and switches leading to easy dunks/ open threes?