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Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« on: January 05, 2009, 04:47:55 PM »

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2367~3200~348~1021~518~788&teams=25~25~25~25~2~2&te=&cash=

Celtics get Joe Smith, the big they sorely need, and Desmond Mason who can score and defend. If they sign Marbury, they'll get their point needed when Eddie is gone.

OKC gets TA and BBD, two young players that rebuilding teams would want, a shooter and a veteran in Eddie, and Scal to make up for the veteran prescence Joe Smith gave them.

Rondo/[Marbury]
Allen/Pruitt
Pierce/Mason
Garnett/Powe
Perk/Smith



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Re: Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009, 05:27:13 PM »

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That is a great trade for us. Not sure why OKC would do it though.
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Re: Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009, 05:28:41 PM »

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I think the sad truth about any Joe Smith trade scenario is that we have to offer them more than Cleveland can: and they have a nice fat expiring contract in Eric Snow ($7.3 mil) and a first round draft pick. We have neither.
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Re: Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009, 05:37:02 PM »

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Quote from: Lucky17 on January 05, 2009, 05:28:41 PM
I think the sad truth about any Joe Smith trade scenario is that we have to offer them more than Cleveland can: and they have a nice fat expiring contract in Eric Snow ($7.3 mil) and a first round draft pick. We have neither.

But why would OKC take Snow's contract? They want young players, not guys that aren't playing. The draft pick may be desirable to them, though.
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Re: Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 05:46:54 PM »

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Quote from: silvershamrocker on January 05, 2009, 05:37:02 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on January 05, 2009, 05:28:41 PM
I think the sad truth about any Joe Smith trade scenario is that we have to offer them more than Cleveland can: and they have a nice fat expiring contract in Eric Snow ($7.3 mil) and a first round draft pick. We have neither.

But why would OKC take Snow's contract? They want young players, not guys that aren't playing. The draft pick may be desirable to them, though.

Snow's contract would help make the numbers work, without compromising OKC's future cap situation.

In fact, it would allow OKC to send out another small contract, like Damien Wilkins', thus improving their payroll for next season. (Cleveland could include or cut Tarence Kinsey.)
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Re: Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 06:02:50 PM »

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Isn't Snow retired? They shouldn't be able to use his contract. He's working for NBA TV for goodness sake.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 06:03:50 PM »

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I'm probably wrong, but I thought the Cavs were restricted from trading for Smith due to the previous trade with OKC.
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Re: Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2009, 06:05:41 PM »

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Quote from: RebusRankin on January 05, 2009, 06:02:50 PM
Isn't Snow retired? They shouldn't be able to use his contract. He's working for NBA TV for goodness sake.

I don't think he has officially retired (e.g. submitted retirement papers to the league office). He's still on Cleveland's roster.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2009, 06:07:05 PM »

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Quote from: Jon Niednagel on January 05, 2009, 06:03:50 PM
I'm probably wrong, but I thought the Cavs were restricted from trading for Smith due to the previous trade with OKC.

You're absolutely right. I thought that was during last season, but it was during this past offseason. So Cleveland can't trade for Smith during this season after all. If Smith is released, however, he'd be free to sign with Cleveland.

Apologies, my mistake. No wonder Cleveland hasn't already pulled the trigger, with Z out and all.
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Re: Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2009, 06:07:09 PM »

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Actually it is a very good trade for us. But as people said before, why would OKC do it?
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2009, 06:08:35 PM »

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sign me up for this one.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2009, 06:18:53 PM »

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Quote from: greenwise on January 05, 2009, 06:07:09 PM
Actually it is a very good trade for us. But as people said before, why would OKC do it?

TA and Baby are young players with upside. OKC is a young, rebuilding team and they would want young players. Scal will give them vet leadership that will replace what Smith gave. And Eddie is another vet and can shoot. They probably wouldn't do it, but it makes some sense for them. It's not like the Pau Gasol trade.  ::)
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2009, 06:26:14 PM »

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Quote from: silvershamrocker on January 05, 2009, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: greenwise on January 05, 2009, 06:07:09 PM
Actually it is a very good trade for us. But as people said before, why would OKC do it?

TA and Baby are young players with upside. OKC is a young, rebuilding team and they would want young players. Scal will give them vet leadership that will replace what Smith gave. And Eddie is another vet and can shoot. They probably wouldn't do it, but it makes some sense for them. It's not like the Pau Gasol trade.  ::)

It depends on how much they value veteran leadership. Enough to spend approx $8.3 million of their available cap space for next year, though? I don't see it.

They only have $35 mil in guaranteed contracts next year, and that's assuming they don't move guys like Collison, Watson, and Wilkins, who could help this year's contenders. They are going to have a ton of cap space to bring in help for their core (Durant, Green, Westbrook, Krstic). I don't think Presti is going to compromise that.
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Re: Trade Idea: TA, Eddie, Scal, and BBD for Joe Smith and Desmond Mason
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2009, 06:26:33 PM »

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My only real concern here is... who's the backup PG now?  I'm not comfortable have Sam I Am be the sole backup considering he has yet to play this season.

If the Marbury rumors come true I'd be more willing, as much as I love Eddie House.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2009, 06:36:39 PM »

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It would affect their cap space next year but they will be well under either way. Scals, House and TA expire in 2010 which wouldn't compromise things much long term and BBD expires after this year.
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