How can Doc defend Scal and dog Miles?

[Triboy16]

Doc is easy to figure out. He likes two qualities in a player most and that is one who is smart and two one that knows how to play defense(it is then assumed you are a hard worker).

Scal is our team mascot no doubt but the guy is pretty smart and he is always moving around(looks like he is working hard).

Scal just doesn't have the skills. I noticed some coaches really think skill is everything to being the best team but usually this is never the case. So thats why even though scal might go 0-10 on offense, doc likes him

[bopna]

I'd say Miles still makes the team period....any of you who oppose such a scenario would be in for a surprise once the season rolls.

[Scribbles]

Doc is easy to figure out. He likes two qualities in a player most and that is one who is smart and two one that knows how to play defense(it is then assumed you are a hard worker).

Scal is our team mascot no doubt but the guy is pretty smart and he is always moving around(looks like he is working hard).

Scal just doesn't have the skills. I noticed some coaches really think skill is everything to being the best team but usually this is never the case. So thats why even though scal might go 0-10 on offense, doc likes him

Yeah I agree. Plus its a great possiblity his teammates like him as well and like him better than a Miles at this point since Scal has been here for a few seasons.  Now obviously they would be all for it if Miles was way better then I'm sure even then some friendships must be broken for the business part, but we don't see the whole thing, only Scal's awful offense in the games.  The thing is Scal won't be a rotation guy it seems so why do we really care?  He's a deep bench player that will always come ready to play, won't give you an attitude, just an all around pro about handling his job.  He knows his role and fits it.  

Okay this is really hard to stick up for Scal I'll admit it after his awful play the past two games, but how many 11 and 12th man are actually even as good as him?  Not many if I had to guess, they're all on the same level unless the coaching is just down right mental.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMWt0AcR-ck    

[Tradetime]

The only thing I can figure is that they are already planning on giving Bill Walker the backup minutes at small forward. Which wouldn't be bad, but I'd still like us to keep Miles around as payment for the day when we traded away Brandon Roy for Sebastian Telfair.

[P2]

I can't take it. Scal is clearly our worst player, and the two games have shown it so far, but why should Miles be waived only because he has a non-guaranteed contract? Scal must be waived, and the little money we have to pay for his contract is worth it, because Miles is definitely a better player and would make our team better.

[steve]

I find it hard to believe that in the four minutes that Darius Miles was in the game that any of you believe that he deserved not to be ridiculed or given one more minute of playing time. He was two seconds slow on every defensive play, he threw up an air ball that would be an embarrassing shot for an EIGHTH GRADER. He seriously mis-timed his leaps for rebounds and was as out of sync as any player that has worn the Celtics uniform since Gerald Green.

Enough with the remembrances of Darius Miles as the high flying, above the rim living, KG wannabe with attitude that he once was and please people, come to grips with the fact that he isn't making this team and that all your delusions of a man overcoming a catastrophically horrible injury to be the Lazarus of the NBA this year are as far fetched as dividing a number by zero. It's not going to happen.

So why would Doc hammer Miles and support Scal? Because one will make this team and one won't. Because one has a guaranteed contract this year and one doesn't. This was all very easy to see if you just saw what reality put in front of you. Will Miles have a good game before the season starts? Maybe, probably most likely. Will he show that he can consistently put together good game after good game to ensure he makes this team and convinces the management that his knee will be a non-issue? Not a chance in the world.

Wake up Celtic Nation Miles is done. And unfortunately it doesn't matter that Scal doesn't deserve to be on this team, because he doesn't. But his contract will one day be worth something, Miles will never be worth anything. Sad story. Sad reality. But it is the truth as I know it.

So Miles is cooked and we're all dumb for thinking otherwise.  If it was so obvious to a fan that didn't see him workout then wouldn't it have been obvious to a GM that did, Danny Ainge.  In his first 10 minutes in 2 years your telling me that your assessment is that he was a few seconds slow?   He must have tricked Danny into thinking he was going to pick up right where he left off 2 years ago.

How about the fact that he was playing with Scal?  It was 4 on 5 out there.  Scal made everybody worse.              

This post reminds me of the bald guy in Princess Bride.   Or the harvard guy in Good Will Hunting.  

"As far fetched as dividing a number by zero"  Let's be totally clear here...Nothing and I mean NOTHING is as far fetched as dividing a number by zero.  That my friend is the most outlandish thing a man can do.  

[ACF]

Doc, if you're reading this:
I'D TAKE D-MILES WITH HIS ARMS TIED
BEHIND HIS BACK ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
I don't care if Scal is a great team
mate, he's just a horrible b-baller...

[tb727]

Okay this is really hard to stick up for Scal I'll admit it after his awful play the past two games, but how many 11 and 12th man are actually even as good as him?  Not many if I had to guess, they're all on the same level unless the coaching is just down right mental. 

All of them are.  In fact the only 2 people that come to mind who may be worse than Scalabrine are Jerome James and Jarron Collins in my opinion.  And they're at least both 7 footers.  He's utterly horrendous and shouldn't be in the league.  He's Steve Scheffler on Seattle in 1996-bad.

[KGamblePreBigContract]

Though I'd be shocked if Scal got cut because of the money the Celts would be on the hook for, Doc has been saying he's going to play the player they're going to cut so that he has 'tape' to show prospective teams.  Also, if he plays decent, after watching last nights pregame that's a big IF, DannyA might be able to trade him instead of cut him.  My guess is that they are happy ENOUGH with Miles, Doc is dissing Miles (a)as motivation and (b)so other teams don't want Miles as part of a Scal trade.

Thus, I can't believe it but I will suggest it looks like Scals is really gonna be outta here.

Finally, I think the reason I can believe Scals will in the end be flat out cut is that, the Celts front office/ownership can rationalize that even if the money is going to B.Scals bank account, you could just as easily consider that money going 'technically' to D.Miles since D.Miles is almost playing for 'free' this year.

[gustusias]

Scal signed a contract of five years. The fifth year is the team's option. This is his fourth year playing here. It would just be poor business manageent to cut this guy before the trading deadline this year. His contract would be valuable in a trade with any team wanting to cut salary expenses by the season's end. I am sure they ain't crazy about him but how could they cut him with that kind of salary.

[greg_kite]

The reason is that Scal, while having a lot of mistakes, was busting his butt the whole time he was out there.  Miles seemed afraid to make mistakes.  He was  standing around on defense and not making plays, offensively or defensively.  Maybe Doc was just trying to motivate him, but he didn't look like a Celtic last night.

As far as a team option on Scal's 5th year I've never heard about that.  Does anyone have a link that would show that?

Personally, I'd like to see both Scal and Miles get cut and try to sign Bonzi Wells.  He's still out there!

[BudweiserCeltic]

If I were Danny, I would trade/cut BBD and Scal. Keep Miles as our lone SF/PF type off the bench (or find someone else to fill this role), and then look for another PF/C or C type (someone with some length).

[BillfromBoston]

Miles definitely was out of sync last night during his brief stretch, but its to be expected for a player  2 years removed from competitive play and who is not in full game shape yet.

Miles looked solid his first exhibition game, so I don't think last nights game indicates much. Its still going to take Miles a few months to get to 100 percent physically, which Ainge and company already knew.

The idea that "Miles is finished" based off what we've seen is preposterous of course. Celtic management made an informed decision based off all the facts at hand-including the knowledge that Miles would need work to get back up to speed.

He is not a lock to make a team with 16 players on the roster, but he has a better chance than his current on-court level of play would indicate because he's being graded on a curve.

[CelticsWhat35]

If I were Danny, I would trade/cut BBD and Scal. Keep Miles as our lone SF/PF type off the bench (or find someone else to fill this role), and then look for another PF/C or C type (someone with some length).

Baby looked better last night, although he still had some bad fouls.  It was nice to see that he's developed that midrange jumper.  But he's not getting cut.  He has value.  They may look to package him in a trade, but he played tough defense on Big Z, which is a tall task when you're giving up over half a foot.

In terms of Scal, he plays decent team defense, but he's a horrible rebounder (which is a big part of the defensive end) and pathetic on the offensive end.  Doc always tries to mention how smart he is, but he does really dumb stuff offensively.  But he's not getting cut.  Not with that contract.

[wdleehi]

If I were Danny, I would trade/cut BBD and Scal. Keep Miles as our lone SF/PF type off the bench (or find someone else to fill this role), and then look for another PF/C or C type (someone with some length).

Baby looked better last night, although he still had some bad fouls.  It was nice to see that he's developed that midrange jumper.  But he's not getting cut.  He has value.  They may look to package him in a trade, but he played tough defense on Big Z, which is a tall task when you're giving up over half a foot.

In terms of Scal, he plays decent team defense, but he's a horrible rebounder (which is a big part of the defensive end) and pathetic on the offensive end.  Doc always tries to mention how smart he is, but he does really dumb stuff offensively.  But he's not getting cut.  Not with that contract.

Even though he does a bad job grabbing rebounds, he does a good job keeping the man he is defending off the boards as well.