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Which team would win the "fake" Southeast Division in 2008-09?

Atlanta (Rondo, Richardson, Deng, Randolph, Chandler, etc.)
2 (10.5%)
 Charlotte (D. Williams, Gordon, M. Williams, J. O'Neal, M. Gasol, etc.)
4 (21.1%)
Miami (Davis, N. Young, J. Green, May, Kaman, etc.)
0 (0%)
Orlando (Billups, Stuckey, Granger, Duncan, Miller, etc.)
12 (63.2%)
 Washington (Felton, J.R. Smith, Outlaw, Blatche, Okafor, etc.)
1 (5.3%)

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2008, 01:15:39 PM »

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Doesn't he always? Timmy has that deadpan look that sometimes borders on the catatonic. Either that, or like he's been zombified.

Yeah, he drops 20/10 on you then eats your brains.

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2008, 01:17:24 PM »

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Well, I was trying to think of things that I had no use for.  8)

Well yeah, once we dispose of you it's best to get any memory of it as far away as possible, to help erase the pain.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2008, 01:20:23 PM »

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LOL.

Back on topic for second, have to point out the ridiculous talent at PG within the Southeast Division:

Atlanta: Rajon Rondo
Charlotte: Deron Williams
Miami: Baron Davis
Orlando: Chauncey Billups
Washington: Raymond Felton

Some great head-to-head matchups for the next several years.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2008, 01:24:34 PM »

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Well yeah, once we dispose of you it's best to get any memory of it as far away as possible, to help erase the pain.

We'll, I'll concede that you guys might catch us by 2021.  Not before then, though.

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2008, 01:26:43 PM »

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Also our talented front courts

ATL: Kaman/Randolph
ORL: Duncan/Miller
CHR: M. Gasol/ J. O'Neal
WAS: Okafor/ Blatche
MIA: Chandler/...

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2008, 01:36:44 PM »

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Doesn't he always? Timmy has that deadpan look that sometimes borders on the catatonic. Either that, or like he's been zombified.

Yeah, he drops 20/10 on you then eats your brains.

that's riiiiight....

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2008, 01:38:43 PM »

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Doesn't he always? Timmy has that deadpan look that sometimes borders on the catatonic. Either that, or like he's been zombified.

Yeah, he drops 20/10 on you then eats your brains.

that's riiiiight....



Thank God he'll be in a wheel chair in 3 years.

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2008, 01:46:17 PM »

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Charlotte are you worried about recent reports of Gordon signing in Russia this year?

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2008, 01:47:27 PM »

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Well yeah, once we dispose of you it's best to get any memory of it as far away as possible, to help erase the pain.

We'll, I'll concede that you guys might catch us by 2021.  Not before then, though.

I'll push this aside until the time is right, so we're not accused of hijacking the thread.

Bigger man, y'know?

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2008, 01:56:34 PM »

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Charlotte - Recovered well from the LarBrd era, and built a solid team around superstar Deron Williams. Depending on J.O's health and Marc Gasol's ability, you too could surprise some teams and maybe nab the 8th spot. An obvious weakness is your lack of veteran leadership and faith in rookies like Love and Hibbert to come in for 10-15 minutes a night.

We don't really see ourselves as having a lack of faith in the rookies. We believe that Kevin Love will play PF quite a bit for us, and will work nicely along with Jermaine 'O Neal at Center when we go with that lineup. We will try to keep O'Neal's total minutes to around 30 per game. Hibbert will indeed see time as well as Gasol, they will split the backup Center minutes that O'Neal doesn't play.

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2008, 02:09:59 PM »

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I'll get to the matchups in a subsequent post... i'm still looking for updated Knicks + Pistons rosters...

Orlando:

1) Canning the "GM speak", do you have any concerns about your bench?  I like Harpring, but that's about it.  Also, any concern that nobody in your second unit hit even 30% of their threes last year?

right b/c we're the only team to use "GM speak"  ;)

Sure, of course we've got concerns -- but not big ones.  While we would like to have a little more offense off the bench, we built our bench a little different than most teams in that we see their role as (1) defense first and (2) opportunistic offense since we plan on having 1 of Billups or Duncan out there for most of of the game for the offense to run through. 

And unlike some of the other contenders out West we have no questions about guys on our bench accepting their roles, in no small part due to Coach Brown's commitment to a 10-man rotation that spreads out minutes, keeps older players fresh and asks our bench guys to step up and deliver.

We think that we need between 30-33 points/gm from our bench and that that's pretty doable: Harpring (9), Barnes (8 ), Telfair (8 ), S. Williams (5) Foyle + other big (4). 

- Harpring, Barnes and Foyle all played key roles off the bench for 50+ win teams last year.

- Telfair has matured on the court since his days in Boston and is finally  a legit backup.  Remember he'd be a rookie next year if he'd gone to college (as he should have).  Should he revert to being Bassy, JWill is ready to step in.

If 3PT% is our biggest concern, i"m happy.  Outside of Granger and Billups though we're hoping to de-emphasize the 3-pt shot overall and focus on ball movement and a midrange game (Harpring, Billups, Granger, Miller) to go with Duncan's frontcourt dominance.

(Though, FWIW, Harpring is career 33.5% shooter from 3pt (but only took 10 last year); Matt Barnes is a career 32.4% but playing for Nelson was allowed/encouraged to take quick 3's out of the offense; and Devin Brown shot 30.8% last year)


3) Others -- not myself -- seem to think you need a clear hierarchy in who takes the "last shot".  Is this a problem with Chauncey and Duncan sharing that role?

None whatsoever, in fact we think it's one of our strength.

We think that the issue is not so much the need for a hierrarchy as it is for the "last shot" options to be clear and agreed upon.  The question was sort of silly last year for the Celts b/c everyone knew that each of KG, PP and RA would take some "last shots" but that the looks would go to Pierce and Allen -- often times through KG.  As the playoffs went on Allen some big shots late, but Pierce clearly became the guy to "take the last shots".  It developed organically through the team.

As important as who "takes the last shot" is (a) do those players agree and (b) did the team get the best "last shot"?  Billups (and the whole team) knows that Duncan on the block is the best "last shot" option, but will also know when he has the best "last shot" and won't be afraid to take it.  Likewise, Duncan knows that Billups can and will make that shot, so kicking it back out or acting as a decoy will keep defenses off balance.

Our raising of this question with teams like POR and HOU had much to do with those teams having 3-4 very good options among younger players where there was an unclear general heirarchy.  Among younger players (still trying to become "veteran all-stars) there's a much greater chance of second guessing and dissension than among veterans -- especially of the team-first caliber of Duncan/Billups.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2008, 02:12:55 PM »

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Charlotte:

1) Examining some of the moves made by your predecessor, what's your thought on the team you were left with?  At one time, Charlotte had Yao, Marion, Derek Rose, Deron, and I think one draft pick, and that was it.  Are you happy with where your roster is now, from that foundation?  What would you have done differently?

I do believe that we could've handled the pg position better than it was, as we were initially left with just Deron Williams at pg. It doesn't matter if you're superman at that position, you still need someone to spell you for periods of time. So, we would have made that more of a priority than the previous ownership.
Yao, Marion and Derek Rose are all players that we would've liked to have seen on our roster still, but as fate had it, we could only handle the team that we were left with. So we felt the need to make a trade to solidify our roster, mostly by replacing the gaping hole left by Yao's absence. We believe that between the defense of Jermaine O'Neal, Marc Gasol and Roy Hibbert in the post, that we will be just fine in that area now. Even though we may have been tempted to trade Rose as well, we would've made sure that we were at least getting a pg back in any prospective deal as well.
We are happy with our SF tandem of Marvin Williams and Julian Wright, so even though Marion is obviously a high caliber sf in this game, we feel that one of these guys is due to break out and become the star that they were projected to be coming into the league.

We are satisfied with what we were able to work out with our roster given the conditions, and believe this team will compete well with competitive defense on the wings (Stevenson, Pietrus) solid scoring (Gordon, Williams, O'Neal, Love) and interior defense (O'Neal, M. Gasol, Hibbert).

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2008, 02:13:22 PM »

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Doesn't he always? Timmy has that deadpan look that sometimes borders on the catatonic. Either that, or like he's been zombified.

Yeah, he drops 20/10 on you then eats your brains.

that's riiiiight....



Thank God he'll be in a wheel chair in 3 years.

Only if someone from your front office pulls a Gillooly on him  8)

Duncan is 4 weeks older than KG (and has played 8,000 fewer mins) .... will they be having wheelchair races against each other?
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2008, 02:15:57 PM »

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Gentlemen, Gentlemen. Save it for the playoffs. This is the thread for the most fun division in the fake NBA.

And one where the 3 GMs who were here the whole time had a great time with one another, despite being competitors.  And Tradetime has been a great addition to the division.   TPs all around boys!!
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Southeast Division
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2008, 02:20:05 PM »

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Only if someone from your front office pulls a Gillooly on him  8)

Duncan is 4 weeks older than KG (and has played 8,000 fewer mins) .... will they be having wheelchair races against each other?


I can only hope.