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ESPN hating on the Celtics
« on: August 29, 2008, 12:16:17 PM »

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=EastOffseasonPredictions

LOL not exactly but they predict 55 games which seems accurate. I agree with Laker ESPN bandwagon for once!

Posey had great defense in the regular season but offensively what can he do besides stand behind the arc in the corner?

We will miss posey in the playoffs BIG time, but I'd take a healthy Tony Allen, D Miles, JR, and Walker over him for a 82-game season 10 times out of 10

Darius Miles wants to ressurect his career. Tony Allen wants to redeem himself coming off of acl surgery. Bill Walker could have stayed in college to be higher prospect but he wants to play in the NBA now. JR Giddens spent 5 years in college and wants to get rid of his reputation. POB doesn't want to be known as a bust.

One of these 5 guys will help the Celtics next year. If not the Celtics would then have the worst luck in the NBA!

Espn used "Lakers bench mob" to support the Lakers for being first in the west LOL. Is this the "bench mob" of Sasha, Vlad, Farmar, Walton, and Ariza that gave up 131 points.

From an offensive + DEFENSIVE standpoint-

I say JR Giddens, Walker, Powe, and House>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lakers bench alltogether

Lamar Odom is only good because he's 6'11 with quickness and ball handling. On the fastbreak he's unstoppable and then mark jackson and Van Gundy claim how versatile Lamar is. Hell naw!

When you put a defender between Lamar and the basket he's just an average player and he has no idea what he's doing.

A lot of players on the lakers are like Lamar odom!

Kobe is the only guard or small forawrd on the lakers that can break down a half-court defense without being open from double teams

Kobe has become a legend having scoring outbursts against poor defensive teams.

Kobe shot 38% vs the Pistons in the 04 finals and 40% in the 08 finals.

WOuld Bird, Jordan, or Magic shoot that poorly in the finals Hell naw!!!!!! Larry Bird at 35 years old wouldn't even shoot that bad!
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Re: KG/Perk versus Bynum/Gasol in response to Lakers realgm
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I think the Celtics are better position by position except at SG.  All other positions are owned by the C's.  C would be arguable because of Bynum's uncertainty - whether he will be very good or average. 

Kobe is the best single player on the court.  But......wasn't Manny Ramirez the single best player on the field?  I think in a lot of ways (even though baseball and basketball are apples and oranges- pun intended for the A & O thread)Manny and Flobe Bryant are similar.  Big babies who constantly use their inflated statistics as leverage against ownership.  Just because they produce numbers does not mean the team is better because of that - bottom line.

 If the Lakers want to win championships I believe that they need to trade Kobe for a couple very good players and build around Bynum, Gasol, etc.  I hope they don't though....I love to HATE Kobe and the Lakers very much.  :)
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Re: ESPN hating on the Celtics
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 12:43:07 PM »

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I am most shocked that they put the Spurs 5th in the West. 



Re: KG/Perk versus Bynum/Gasol in response to Lakers realgm
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I think the Celtics are better position by position except at SG.  All other positions are owned by the C's.  C would be arguable because of Bynum's uncertainty - whether he will be very good or average. 

Kobe is the best single player on the court.  But......wasn't Manny Ramirez the single best player on the field?  I think in a lot of ways (even though baseball and basketball are apples and oranges- pun intended for the A & O thread)Manny and Flobe Bryant are similar.  Big babies who constantly use their inflated statistics as leverage against ownership.  Just because they produce numbers does not mean the team is better because of that - bottom line.

 If the Lakers want to win championships I believe that they need to trade Kobe for a couple very good players and build around Bynum, Gasol, etc.  I hope they don't though....I love to HATE Kobe and the Lakers very much.  :)

manny was a key part of 2 world series championships, bryant was along for the ride with shaq.

I know the flavor of the month is to pretend manny's overrated and we always hated him, but he was an awesome red sox, and i will miss him alot, that said it was time for him and the sox to move on.

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Re: ESPN hating on the Celtics
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I am most shocked that they put the Spurs 5th in the West. 
Too Low or Too High?

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I am most shocked that they put the Spurs 5th in the West. 
Too Low or Too High?


Too low. 


They are still better them the Jazz and the Rockets.  Hornets still have to beat them in the playoffs. 

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i would've placed the hornets over the lakers but thats okay. in a playoff series, the lakers don't stand a chance against cp3. if they couldn't stop pierce from slashing... how will they stop chris paul? how do you rank golden state with an injuried ellis and no one else on their team over a clippers team with both davis and camby? i don't understand that pick.

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I am most shocked that they put the Spurs 5th in the West. 
Too Low or Too High?


Too low. 


They are still better them the Jazz and the Rockets.  Hornets still have to beat them in the playoffs. 

In fairness to the "experts" over there, they *did* only pick the Spurs to finish 4 games behind the first place team.  I agree with them that teams will be once again clustered at the top.

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Re: ESPN hating on the Celtics
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2008, 01:00:05 PM »

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I think I have the Spurs as the fourth most likely to win the West. Not necessarily playoff seeding order. Fifth for the Spurs is something I'm okay with.

I'm surprised by the overall parity. I mean the worst team in the East winning 28 games? Then 29 games. Then 6 teams in the 30-40 range. That's a lot of parity.

Top sides like Boston winning only 55 games, LA winning only 55 games ... doesn't sit right either.

Re: ESPN hating on the Celtics
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The West will be fun to watch, I am curious about Portland the most.  They could blow the doors off some teams if Oden does what is expected of him.  There isn't a big out West that can contain him.

Imagine LA gets the first seed, and Portland sneaks in at eigth?  That would be nightmare matchup for LA and there paper thin front line.  If that matchup comes to be, I am running to the nearest casino to put money on the Blazers.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=EastOffseasonPredictions

We will miss posey in the playoffs BIG time, but I'd take a healthy Tony Allen, D Miles, JR, and Walker over him for a 82-game season 10 times out of 10


Regardless of the validity (or lack thereof) of this assertion, the fact that three of the four guys you picked all have *major* injury histories minimizes the fairness - or at least the realism - of the assessment to begin with.

how do you rank golden state with an injuried ellis and no one else on their team over a clippers team with both davis and camby? i don't understand that pick.

While I don't necessarily disagree with you regarding the Clips and Warriors the bolded phrase seems to be a bit of a harsh jab at a Warriors team that shelled out a lot of cash this summer to one of the market's top free agents (Corey Maggette), two of its own key restricted free agents (Andris Biedrins and Kelenna Azubuike) and a solid energy guy off the bench (Ronny Turiaf).  With Maggette, Biedrins, Al Harrington and Captain Jax aboard, I have a hard time with the "no on else" on their team claim.

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Re: ESPN hating on the Celtics
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2008, 01:15:36 PM »

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The West will be fun to watch, I am curious about Portland the most.  They could blow the doors off some teams if Oden does what is expected of him.  There isn't a big out West that can contain him.

Imagine LA gets the first seed, and Portland sneaks in at eigth?  That would be nightmare matchup for LA and there paper thin front line.  If that matchup comes to be, I am running to the nearest casino to put money on the Blazers.

I agree with the curiosity about Portland D Dub but LA has a 'paper-thin' front line?  With Bynum, Gasol and Lamar Odom?  I'm not sure I understand this.

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Re: ESPN hating on the Celtics
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2008, 01:16:24 PM »

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i would've placed the hornets over the lakers but thats okay. in a playoff series, the lakers don't stand a chance against cp3. if they couldn't stop pierce from slashing... how will they stop chris paul? how do you rank golden state with an injuried ellis and no one else on their team over a clippers team with both davis and camby? i don't understand that pick.

TP zero, that ticked me off to.

the only excuse i can give them is mabey this was written for press before that injury came out?

but yea, the warriors seem real, real weak to be put in the slot they are over the clips.
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Re: ESPN hating on the Celtics
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FWIW, ESPN's West ranking is very close to mine (which was done pre-Artest)...  I think it's pretty spot on :)

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LAL
NO
UTAH
PHX
HOU
SAS
DAL
POR
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2008, 01:28:34 PM »

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Whie I think that saying that ESPN is "hating" on the Celtics is a bit strong, I do believe that they have underestimated just how many games this team will win. I just don't see the loss of Posey alone being responsible for an 11 game swing. And I don't buy into the whole "the East has gotten a lot stronger" argument either. Philly will be better. Miami will be better(how can they not be). But other than that I just don't see where anyone else has gotten significantly better.

Sure the argument can be made that Cleveland and Chicago will be better but I don't see that much improvement in either team. I'm not that big of a Derrick Rose fan and I don't see Mo WQilliams being that much of an upgrade over Delonte in Cleveland(although I have to say I did like the Cavs draft).

So all things considered I would have put the Celtics at around 59-60 wins. I also think they will once again be the best team in the league and have home court advantage throughout the playoffs, barring any significant injuries, of course.

As for everyone else I think ESPN's experts gave a little to much credit to Miami and Chicago in the East. I don't see the addition of rookies as being that much of a difference maker for either team. I liked their Western Conference picks with the exception that I think the Hornets will be the best of the west and that Golden State is seriously going to suck.