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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2008, 01:30:54 PM »

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How about giving it to Coach K??

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Coach K doesn't get his own?

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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2008, 01:56:50 PM »

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Coach K doesn't get his own?

I belive he does.

But, i wouldn't be shocked to find out he doesn't, since then other athlete's coaches would want one (the gymnastics coach doesn't get one along with his athlete.)

its an intersting question, anyone got a definitive response?
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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

Secondly I think it is pretty crappy to do to your family. Don't you think that little wifebeater junior of his will want that some day? One day when he is sitting in his cell block he will be able to glance up at that medal and it will give him hope. (either that or it might buy him out of being someone's girlfriend)

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.
That's cool EJ, to each his own.

But if that is your stance regarding Gold medals or maybe even championship rings, would you then consider Bill Russell classless for offering one of his championship rings to Garnett if the Celtics didn't win last year?

Considering that Bill was the player that earned that ring, would it disrespectful to his other teammates to give one of his rings to a player that wasn't on that team or earned the right to a ring?

I ask because is it not the highest achievement one can receive as an NBA player, to earn a championship ring? So was Mr. Russell being as big of a scumbag as Kidd by offering to give, what should be, one of his prized and cherished possessions away?

I think everyone looks at trophies, rings, ribbons, and medals differently. It could just be, as someone else said elsewhere, that Kidd and Russell find that the legacy and the achievement are more important than the trophy item that represents it.


No because Russell wasn't giving his ring to some grocery store clerk he didn't know, or some bum or something. It was to a Celtic player that he knew and respected. Kind of a reward to KG for coming and trying to bring back championship glory to his beloved Celtics. Quite a different situation than what Kidd did.

As far as other comments about people feeling differently within the team about what it means to them, I would say then they shouldn't have accepted the spot. There are other guys who could have gone out there and played that wanted to win for their country that it actually meant something to them. If it was just a nice trip to China for him with the personal glory that he was wanting he should have stayed home.
Why is the situation so different and why does it matter who they give their trophies to?

The act is still the same. They are giving away something they worked to earn that only 11 other individual players earned the right to have. According to your logic they should have tremendous respect for that medal and ring and never let anyone else have it. The disrespectful and classless act is the giving away, it is not who they are giving it away to, isn't it? That's what I got out of your first post.

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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2008, 02:13:56 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2008, 02:35:42 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

edit: no need to make attacks on the guys child...lets have a little class here. -Chris

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.

I fully agree with EJ on this one.  Kidd cares more about getting hooked up in Vegas than passing on a coveted heirloom to his kid.  How selfish is that?  He basicly is cashing that thing for himself asap before any of his family can get their hands on it.

This shows you where Kidd's priorities are - hookers & gambling.  He is easily the biggest scumbag in the league and it makes me want to puke that our country holds him in such high regard.  People who beat their wives shouldn't be aloud to represent the US in the olympics, no matter how well they play.

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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2008, 02:39:56 PM »

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Odd man. Odd gift.

Kidd has his other gold medal locked up in a security box in a bank (he said that prior to leaving for Beijing), so obviously the Gold Medal does hold a certain value to him.

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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2008, 02:42:55 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

edit: no need to make attacks on the guys child...lets have a little class here. -Chris

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.

I fully agree with EJ on this one.  Kidd cares more about getting hooked up in Vegas than passing on a coveted heirloom to his kid.  How selfish is that?  He basicly is cashing that thing for himself asap before any of his family can get their hands on it.

This shows you where Kidd's priorities are - hookers & gambling.  He is easily the biggest scumbag in the league and it makes me want to puke that our country holds him in such high regard.  People who beat their wives shouldn't be aloud to represent the US in the olympics, no matter how well they play.

I know i led this off with the jokes, but he's probley not actually romanticly attached to this person. nor is she a hooker, shes the owner of the casino's wife, and a billionar in her own right.

I do agree about it being a dumb move, but mabey he feels like this one isn't as meangiful as the first one.
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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2008, 03:04:23 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

Secondly I think it is pretty crappy to do to your family. Don't you think that little wifebeater junior of his will want that some day? One day when he is sitting in his cell block he will be able to glance up at that medal and it will give him hope. (either that or it might buy him out of being someone's girlfriend)

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.
That's cool EJ, to each his own.

But if that is your stance regarding Gold medals or maybe even championship rings, would you then consider Bill Russell classless for offering one of his championship rings to Garnett if the Celtics didn't win last year?

Considering that Bill was the player that earned that ring, would it disrespectful to his other teammates to give one of his rings to a player that wasn't on that team or earned the right to a ring?

I ask because is it not the highest achievement one can receive as an NBA player, to earn a championship ring? So was Mr. Russell being as big of a scumbag as Kidd by offering to give, what should be, one of his prized and cherished possessions away?

I think everyone looks at trophies, rings, ribbons, and medals differently. It could just be, as someone else said elsewhere, that Kidd and Russell find that the legacy and the achievement are more important than the trophy item that represents it.


No because Russell wasn't giving his ring to some grocery store clerk he didn't know, or some bum or something. It was to a Celtic player that he knew and respected. Kind of a reward to KG for coming and trying to bring back championship glory to his beloved Celtics. Quite a different situation than what Kidd did.

As far as other comments about people feeling differently within the team about what it means to them, I would say then they shouldn't have accepted the spot. There are other guys who could have gone out there and played that wanted to win for their country that it actually meant something to them. If it was just a nice trip to China for him with the personal glory that he was wanting he should have stayed home.
Why is the situation so different and why does it matter who they give their trophies to?

The act is still the same. They are giving away something they worked to earn that only 11 other individual players earned the right to have. According to your logic they should have tremendous respect for that medal and ring and never let anyone else have it. The disrespectful and classless act is the giving away, it is not who they are giving it away to, isn't it? That's what I got out of your first post.

Of course it matters! Are you trying to say that if Kidd gave his medal to an injured veteran that came back from Iraq with no legs that it is the same as giving it to some Casino lady?! If he had done that I would have had respect for him and understood. That's where the patriotism would have come in. Not in discarding the thing like it was a gift basket someone gave him.

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« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2008, 03:42:10 PM »

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The subject of this post is misleading unfortunately...

The "hostess" was Steve Wynn's wife.

I don't think Kidd is banging her, but I could be wrong.

Follow the links back to the original article to see for yourself.

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The subject of this post is misleading unfortunately...

The "hostess" was Steve Wynn's wife.

I don't think Kidd is banging her, but I could be wrong.

Follow the links back to the original article to see for yourself.

Of course he isn't banging her.  And of course the nice folks at the Wynn are setting him up with as many hookers as he can handle while he is there - after all, that's not a crime in Vegas. 

The guy is known for cheating on his wife - do you think he was sleeping alone all those nights at the Wynn?  Even rich people can't afford to gamble all day for 3 weeks straight..

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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2008, 05:18:26 PM »

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The subject of this post is misleading unfortunately...

The "hostess" was Steve Wynn's wife.

I don't think Kidd is banging her, but I could be wrong.

Follow the links back to the original article to see for yourself.

Of course he isn't banging her.  And of course the nice folks at the Wynn are setting him up with as many hookers as he can handle while he is there - after all, that's not a crime in Vegas. 

The guy is known for cheating on his wife - do you think he was sleeping alone all those nights at the Wynn?  Even rich people can't afford to gamble all day for 3 weeks straight..

Hookers are legal in the state of Nevada in an approved licensed location. Not in Las Vegas. If that was true at the Wynn, which is obviously just speculation, then it wasn't legal.

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« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2008, 05:34:24 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

Secondly I think it is pretty crappy to do to your family. Don't you think that little wifebeater junior of his will want that some day? One day when he is sitting in his cell block he will be able to glance up at that medal and it will give him hope. (either that or it might buy him out of being someone's girlfriend)

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.
That's cool EJ, to each his own.

But if that is your stance regarding Gold medals or maybe even championship rings, would you then consider Bill Russell classless for offering one of his championship rings to Garnett if the Celtics didn't win last year?

Considering that Bill was the player that earned that ring, would it disrespectful to his other teammates to give one of his rings to a player that wasn't on that team or earned the right to a ring?

I ask because is it not the highest achievement one can receive as an NBA player, to earn a championship ring? So was Mr. Russell being as big of a scumbag as Kidd by offering to give, what should be, one of his prized and cherished possessions away?

I think everyone looks at trophies, rings, ribbons, and medals differently. It could just be, as someone else said elsewhere, that Kidd and Russell find that the legacy and the achievement are more important than the trophy item that represents it.


No because Russell wasn't giving his ring to some grocery store clerk he didn't know, or some bum or something. It was to a Celtic player that he knew and respected. Kind of a reward to KG for coming and trying to bring back championship glory to his beloved Celtics. Quite a different situation than what Kidd did.

As far as other comments about people feeling differently within the team about what it means to them, I would say then they shouldn't have accepted the spot. There are other guys who could have gone out there and played that wanted to win for their country that it actually meant something to them. If it was just a nice trip to China for him with the personal glory that he was wanting he should have stayed home.
Why is the situation so different and why does it matter who they give their trophies to?

The act is still the same. They are giving away something they worked to earn that only 11 other individual players earned the right to have. According to your logic they should have tremendous respect for that medal and ring and never let anyone else have it. The disrespectful and classless act is the giving away, it is not who they are giving it away to, isn't it? That's what I got out of your first post.

Of course it matters! Are you trying to say that if Kidd gave his medal to an injured veteran that came back from Iraq with no legs that it is the same as giving it to some Casino lady?! If he had done that I would have had respect for him and understood. That's where the patriotism would have come in. Not in discarding the thing like it was a gift basket someone gave him.
Well as long as your problem is who he gives the medal to and not the act of giving to someone else, then I guess I can understand some of the vitriol.  Personally I think he earned it and has every right to do with it what he wants. But I understand the idea that he should put it towards a greater good and not a selfish need.

But what are you going to do. He promised it as a sort of thank you for whatever he was provided with at the Wynn, so now I guess Mr. or Mrs. Wynn has I nice mantelpiece and a story to tell.

If he was going to do anything with it because it isn't that important to him, auctioning it off and giving the proceeds to a charity like the Jimmy Fund would be a good thing. But then again we are talking about Jason Kidd.

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Join my name to those who see no problem with this.

He made a promise and he kept it. That's good, not bad.

He showed gratitude for someone who received him and his team and contributed to their victory. Good, not bad.

The medal would probably be in public display in that resort or something. Good, not bad.

Or maybe they can auction it and donate the money to a charity or to a church. That would be extremely good.

Anyway, while a odd thing to do, I can't see any problem at all.

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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2008, 06:07:57 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

Secondly I think it is pretty crappy to do to your family. Don't you think that little wifebeater junior of his will want that some day? One day when he is sitting in his cell block he will be able to glance up at that medal and it will give him hope. (either that or it might buy him out of being someone's girlfriend)

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.
That's cool EJ, to each his own.

But if that is your stance regarding Gold medals or maybe even championship rings, would you then consider Bill Russell classless for offering one of his championship rings to Garnett if the Celtics didn't win last year?

Considering that Bill was the player that earned that ring, would it disrespectful to his other teammates to give one of his rings to a player that wasn't on that team or earned the right to a ring?

I ask because is it not the highest achievement one can receive as an NBA player, to earn a championship ring? So was Mr. Russell being as big of a scumbag as Kidd by offering to give, what should be, one of his prized and cherished possessions away?

I think everyone looks at trophies, rings, ribbons, and medals differently. It could just be, as someone else said elsewhere, that Kidd and Russell find that the legacy and the achievement are more important than the trophy item that represents it.


No because Russell wasn't giving his ring to some grocery store clerk he didn't know, or some bum or something. It was to a Celtic player that he knew and respected. Kind of a reward to KG for coming and trying to bring back championship glory to his beloved Celtics. Quite a different situation than what Kidd did.

As far as other comments about people feeling differently within the team about what it means to them, I would say then they shouldn't have accepted the spot. There are other guys who could have gone out there and played that wanted to win for their country that it actually meant something to them. If it was just a nice trip to China for him with the personal glory that he was wanting he should have stayed home.
Why is the situation so different and why does it matter who they give their trophies to?

The act is still the same. They are giving away something they worked to earn that only 11 other individual players earned the right to have. According to your logic they should have tremendous respect for that medal and ring and never let anyone else have it. The disrespectful and classless act is the giving away, it is not who they are giving it away to, isn't it? That's what I got out of your first post.

Of course it matters! Are you trying to say that if Kidd gave his medal to an injured veteran that came back from Iraq with no legs that it is the same as giving it to some Casino lady?! If he had done that I would have had respect for him and understood. That's where the patriotism would have come in. Not in discarding the thing like it was a gift basket someone gave him.
Well as long as your problem is who he gives the medal to and not the act of giving to someone else, then I guess I can understand some of the vitriol.  Personally I think he earned it and has every right to do with it what he wants. But I understand the idea that he should put it towards a greater good and not a selfish need.

But what are you going to do. He promised it as a sort of thank you for whatever he was provided with at the Wynn, so now I guess Mr. or Mrs. Wynn has I nice mantelpiece and a story to tell.

If he was going to do anything with it because it isn't that important to him, auctioning it off and giving the proceeds to a charity like the Jimmy Fund would be a good thing. But then again we are talking about Jason Kidd.

I'd even buy that one. I think we are in agreement for the most part. Especially the last sentence. Pretty stupid promise! Kind of reminds me of Kraft giving his Super Bowl Ring to Putin. Sometimes you don't have the guts to tell someone you were really joking...