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Re: Kidd gives gold medal to casino hostess.
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2008, 12:17:29 PM »

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I thought I heard that the medals were worth about $220. It seems low but I thought thats what they said when they were showing Phelp's gold medals.

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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 12:18:39 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

edit: no need to make attacks on the guys child...lets have a little class here. -Chris

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2008, 12:53:23 PM by Chris »

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 12:25:00 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

edit: no need to make attacks on the guys child...lets have a little class here

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.

EJ- while i agree on most of your olympic posts, im confused why in each one every player on the team has to feel one way or another, with no room to manuever.

for all we know, as little as it seems to mean j-kidd, it means the world to chris bosh.

I'm just pointing out its a very generailzed statement you base some of your posts on this topic on. I think the gold probley means 12 diffrent things to 12 diffrent people on that team.

« Last Edit: August 27, 2008, 12:52:27 PM by Chris »
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 12:36:47 PM »

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Maybe he got confused and thought the metal was just a casino chip.
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2008, 12:44:23 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

edit: no need to make attacks on the guys child...lets have a little class here

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.
That's cool EJ, to each his own.

But if that is your stance regarding Gold medals or maybe even championship rings, would you then consider Bill Russell classless for offering one of his championship rings to Garnett if the Celtics didn't win last year?

Considering that Bill was the player that earned that ring, would it disrespectful to his other teammates to give one of his rings to a player that wasn't on that team or earned the right to a ring?

I ask because is it not the highest achievement one can receive as an NBA player, to earn a championship ring? So was Mr. Russell being as big of a scumbag as Kidd by offering to give, what should be, one of his prized and cherished possessions away?

I think everyone looks at trophies, rings, ribbons, and medals differently. It could just be, as someone else said elsewhere, that Kidd and Russell find that the legacy and the achievement are more important than the trophy item that represents it.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2008, 12:50:35 PM »

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was this before or after he beat her?

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2008, 12:51:19 PM »

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wow, players should have more pride in wiinning a gold medal.
many athletes work their whole lives to get a chance to win one, and a spoiled NBA player has absolutly no appreciation for it, very sad.

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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2008, 12:55:03 PM »

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I thought I heard that the medals were worth about $220. It seems low but I thought thats what they said when they were showing Phelp's gold medals.

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that white jade must be fake then. the gold i knew would be cheap, that jade middle ring i thought was real. if it was, they'd be up in the 10000's with that much white jade in em.

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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2008, 01:00:19 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

Secondly I think it is pretty crappy to do to your family. Don't you think that little wifebeater junior of his will want that some day? One day when he is sitting in his cell block he will be able to glance up at that medal and it will give him hope. (either that or it might buy him out of being someone's girlfriend)

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.
That's cool EJ, to each his own.

But if that is your stance regarding Gold medals or maybe even championship rings, would you then consider Bill Russell classless for offering one of his championship rings to Garnett if the Celtics didn't win last year?

Considering that Bill was the player that earned that ring, would it disrespectful to his other teammates to give one of his rings to a player that wasn't on that team or earned the right to a ring?

I ask because is it not the highest achievement one can receive as an NBA player, to earn a championship ring? So was Mr. Russell being as big of a scumbag as Kidd by offering to give, what should be, one of his prized and cherished possessions away?

I think everyone looks at trophies, rings, ribbons, and medals differently. It could just be, as someone else said elsewhere, that Kidd and Russell find that the legacy and the achievement are more important than the trophy item that represents it.


No because Russell wasn't giving his ring to some grocery store clerk he didn't know, or some bum or something. It was to a Celtic player that he knew and respected. Kind of a reward to KG for coming and trying to bring back championship glory to his beloved Celtics. Quite a different situation than what Kidd did.

As far as other comments about people feeling differently within the team about what it means to them, I would say then they shouldn't have accepted the spot. There are other guys who could have gone out there and played that wanted to win for their country that it actually meant something to them. If it was just a nice trip to China for him with the personal glory that he was wanting he should have stayed home.

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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2008, 01:00:45 PM »

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I thought I heard that the medals were worth about $220. It seems low but I thought thats what they said when they were showing Phelp's gold medals.

Gold's going rate is 800+ something an ounce.

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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2008, 01:02:23 PM »

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I thought I heard that the medals were worth about $220. It seems low but I thought thats what they said when they were showing Phelp's gold medals.

Gold's going rate is 800+ something an ounce.

no,  it isn't, look at the article i posted. he's correct, a gold medal at this years olympics costs 220$ cos was right. (TP)

160 for the 6 grams of gold, 60 for the silver the gold is plated on.
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2008, 01:05:55 PM »

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As much as most here hate Jason Kidd(myself included) and I'm sure there are still yet more joking comments to come, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Kidd and his family was probably comp-ed the three weeks and Kidd didn't feel cool not paying something for three weeks of a stay so he made her the promise that she could have his gold if they won.

They won and he gave her the medal. It might become a show piece on the wall at the hotel somewhere or in her husband's or her's offices. If he got three weeks free I think it's a pretty cool way to pay a perceived favor.

Of course, he could have lost a fortune during his three weeks there and maybe the debt was excused in exchange for the medal. Who knows.
Nick- I have to disagree with you on this one. First I think that for a bunch of guys who are trying to make it sound like winning the gold for the US is the greatest achievement in sports history, that it shows a tremendous amount of a "Not that big of a deal" attitude. To give an Olympic gold medal away to some lady you barely met at a Casino is pretty classless. Not surprising coming from Kidd. I think that is pretty disresepectful to his team and the country. I don't think that is much better than tossing it on a garbage heap.

Secondly I think it is pretty crappy to do to your family. Don't you think that little wifebeater junior of his will want that some day? One day when he is sitting in his cell block he will be able to glance up at that medal and it will give him hope. (either that or it might buy him out of being someone's girlfriend)

I got on a roll and couldn't stop with that last part, but you get my point. Someday he will regret this dumb decision.
That's cool EJ, to each his own.

But if that is your stance regarding Gold medals or maybe even championship rings, would you then consider Bill Russell classless for offering one of his championship rings to Garnett if the Celtics didn't win last year?

Considering that Bill was the player that earned that ring, would it disrespectful to his other teammates to give one of his rings to a player that wasn't on that team or earned the right to a ring?

I ask because is it not the highest achievement one can receive as an NBA player, to earn a championship ring? So was Mr. Russell being as big of a scumbag as Kidd by offering to give, what should be, one of his prized and cherished possessions away?

I think everyone looks at trophies, rings, ribbons, and medals differently. It could just be, as someone else said elsewhere, that Kidd and Russell find that the legacy and the achievement are more important than the trophy item that represents it.


No because Russell wasn't giving his ring to some grocery store clerk he didn't know, or some bum or something. It was to a Celtic player that he knew and respected. Kind of a reward to KG for coming and trying to bring back championship glory to his beloved Celtics. Quite a different situation than what Kidd did.

As far as other comments about people feeling differently within the team about what it means to them, I would say then they shouldn't have accepted the spot. There are other guys who could have gone out there and played that wanted to win for their country that it actually meant something to them. If it was just a nice trip to China for him with the personal glory that he was wanting he should have stayed home.

that wasen't my question, my issue was that in most posts you say "these guys" or "this team" when refering to thier feelings on the games, when really they are all indivduals.

i agree with you on kidd, was just pointing out its not fair to lump the other 12 into one group, as sems to be the case in alot of posters feeling s on team usa.
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i say we pay kidd 220 bucks and just buy one off of him. they obviously have no value to him.

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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2008, 01:09:31 PM »

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I thought I heard that the medals were worth about $220. It seems low but I thought thats what they said when they were showing Phelp's gold medals.

Gold's going rate is 800+ something an ounce.

no,  it isn't, look at the article i posted. he's correct, a gold medal at this years olympics costs 220$ cos was right. (TP)

160 for the 6 grams of gold, 60 for the silver the gold is plated on.

Just read the article saying only a small portion of the medal is actual gold. That's pretty whack!
Makes all those winners biting on it seem misguided.

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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2008, 01:17:52 PM »

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I thought I heard that the medals were worth about $220. It seems low but I thought thats what they said when they were showing Phelp's gold medals.

Gold's going rate is 800+ something an ounce.

no,  it isn't, look at the article i posted. he's correct, a gold medal at this years olympics costs 220$ cos was right. (TP)

160 for the 6 grams of gold, 60 for the silver the gold is plated on.

Just read the article saying only a small portion of the medal is actual gold. That's pretty whack!
Makes all those winners biting on it seem misguided.

on the one hand, it wouldnt make sense to make somethign that big out of pure gold (it would dent if dropped)

on the other, i was as shocked as you to hear they at least don't use 14k, or real white jade.

as well, its the symbol, not the monatary value, that matetrs in the end.
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