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Instead of a Posey Clone......
« on: July 17, 2008, 11:16:24 AM »

Offline reardenmetal

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...which we won't to be unable to find,(a solid three-point shooter + superior defender + veteran presence + inexpensive) perhaps the answer lies in finding a player with a few of these qualities as opposed to the whole package, and then relying on the team to take up the slack. Given the fact that at their core the Celtics are a defensive unit, I would suggest that the loss of 1 player, other than KG, won't change their team-defensive scheme. So let's focus on replacing, or even upgrading, the offense w/ a veteran player, smart enough to not to become a liability on the defensive end.

Suggestion. Trade Scalabrine and Powe to Charlotte for SG Matt Carroll. With our recent drafts, and the aquisition of O'Patrick,  the Celts are overloaded in the frontcourt, which makes both Scal and Powe expendable. With Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallace, Adam Morrison, Derek Anderson, and Jared Dudley, Charlotte has the same problem of being overload at the wing. Charlotte would jump at this trade because, being one of the shorter team in the NBA, it would provide them much needed size at the pivot, and allow them to shed a 5 year contract that not going to see much playing time. Simultaneously, Boston gains a 6'6 27-year old, that graduated 6th all-time in scoring from Notre Dame, ranked second in scoring in the history of southeastern Pennsylvania, trailing only current Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant, and by the way, shoots a red hot, 43% from the three (that ranks 9th in the league amongst players w/ minimum 100 attempts). Carroll would be the number 1 offensive option off the bench, and a needed threat from the arc for those nights when Allen can't find the range. We can hold onto our MLE until midseason to see what other options develope..


Mainly, this trade can be done.
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Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 11:19:20 AM »

Offline Emperor Young

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scal for morrison?

Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 11:26:23 AM »

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Scal has NO value, Unless.....

Is he finally in the last year of his deal?  That would be nice.
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Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 11:28:08 AM »

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Scali as a filler only works if the other team really wants the other part. 


His two year contract is not bad now. 

Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 11:29:14 AM »

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scal for morrison?
morrison makes too much and injured too often

Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 11:32:52 AM »

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scal for morrison?
morrison makes too much and injured too often

You forgot to mention that he sucks too.  He's supposed to be a scorer, but he shot 38% from the field and 34% from 3

Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 11:42:40 AM »

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...which we won't to be unable to find,(a solid three-point shooter + superior defender + veteran presence + inexpensive) perhaps the answer lies in finding a player with a few of these qualities as opposed to the whole package, and then relying on the team to take up the slack. Given the fact that at their core the Celtics are a defensive unit, I would suggest that the loss of 1 player, other than KG, won't change their team-defensive scheme. So let's focus on replacing, or even upgrading, the offense w/ a veteran player, smart enough to not to become a liability on the defensive end.

Suggestion. Trade Scalabrine and Powe to Charlotte for SG Matt Carroll. With our recent drafts, and the aquisition of O'Patrick,  the Celts are overloaded in the frontcourt, which makes both Scal and Powe expendable. With Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallace, Adam Morrison, Derek Anderson, and Jared Dudley, Charlotte has the same problem of being overload at the wing. This trade would bring Charlotte much needed size at the pivot, and allow them to shed a 5 year contract. Simultaneously, Boston gains a 6'6 27-year old, that graduated 6th all-time in scoring from Notre Dame, and by the way, shoots a red hot, 43% from the three (that ranks 9th in the league amongst players w/ minimum 100 attempts). Carroll would be a great offensive option off the bench, and a needed threat from the arc for those nights when Allen can't find the range. We can hold onto our MLE until midseason to see what other options develope..


Mainly, this trade can be done.

I would never trade Powe for Carroll after the way he broke out this year
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Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 11:49:06 AM »

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...which we won't to be unable to find,(a solid three-point shooter + superior defender + veteran presence + inexpensive) perhaps the answer lies in finding a player with a few of these qualities as opposed to the whole package, and then relying on the team to take up the slack. Given the fact that at their core the Celtics are a defensive unit, I would suggest that the loss of 1 player, other than KG, won't change their team-defensive scheme. So let's focus on replacing, or even upgrading, the offense w/ a veteran player, smart enough to not to become a liability on the defensive end.

Suggestion. Trade Scalabrine and Powe to Charlotte for SG Matt Carroll. With our recent drafts, and the aquisition of O'Patrick,  the Celts are overloaded in the frontcourt, which makes both Scal and Powe expendable. With Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallace, Adam Morrison, Derek Anderson, and Jared Dudley, Charlotte has the same problem of being overload at the wing. This trade would bring Charlotte much needed size at the pivot, and allow them to shed a 5 year contract. Simultaneously, Boston gains a 6'6 27-year old, that graduated 6th all-time in scoring from Notre Dame, and by the way, shoots a red hot, 43% from the three (that ranks 9th in the league amongst players w/ minimum 100 attempts). Carroll would be a great offensive option off the bench, and a needed threat from the arc for those nights when Allen can't find the range. We can hold onto our MLE until midseason to see what other options develope..


Mainly, this trade can be done.

I would never trade Powe for Carroll after the way he broke out this year
the problem is with only one year remaining on his contract, you are faced with another Posey scenario at the end of the season. Its better to get something for him now. Plus we are overloaded at PF/C.

Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 11:57:30 AM »

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Seems like everyone can make a deal to get rid of  Scal except for Danny.

Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 12:36:27 PM »

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I completely agree we need to make a move that does not try to replace Posey. With how everyone talks about him you would think he was perfect. Posey isn't that good at getting to the rim, he can't really create his own shot and he gets beat by quicker 3's and twos when he gaurds them.
Who you ask can do all these things that Posey can't do? Tony Allen gets everything going to the hole can get under peoples skin like Posey and can gaurd fast players. Then if we bring in a good backup big and a good veteran pg. Our team has gotten better in every aspect except for Posey's strengths.
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Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 12:38:39 PM »

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Seems like everyone can make a deal to get rid of  Scal except for Danny.

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Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 12:42:39 PM »

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Seems like everyone can make a deal to get rid of  Scal except for Danny.

Maybe Danny doesn't want to get rid of Scal. ???
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Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 12:44:09 PM »

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How about bringing back old friend Ryan Gomes.  He's a restricted free agent (I think) and could do alot of the same things Posey did. I think playing with Garnett will allow him to play more than sufficient D off the bench. We may have to overpay a little bit to pry him from Minny, but I think he could really contribute to a contender and won't take away from the team with a bad attitude.

Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2008, 02:53:27 PM »

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...which we won't to be unable to find,(a solid three-point shooter + superior defender + veteran presence + inexpensive) perhaps the answer lies in finding a player with a few of these qualities as opposed to the whole package, and then relying on the team to take up the slack. Given the fact that at their core the Celtics are a defensive unit, I would suggest that the loss of 1 player, other than KG, won't change their team-defensive scheme. So let's focus on replacing, or even upgrading, the offense w/ a veteran player, smart enough to not to become a liability on the defensive end.

Suggestion. Trade Scalabrine and Powe to Charlotte for SG Matt Carroll. With our recent drafts, and the aquisition of O'Patrick,  the Celts are overloaded in the frontcourt, which makes both Scal and Powe expendable. With Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallace, Adam Morrison, Derek Anderson, and Jared Dudley, Charlotte has the same problem of being overload at the wing. Charlotte would jump at this trade because, being one of the shorter team in the NBA, it would provide them much needed size at the pivot, and allow them to shed a 5 year contract that not going to see much playing time. Simultaneously, Boston gains a 6'6 27-year old, that graduated 6th all-time in scoring from Notre Dame, ranked second in scoring in the history of southeastern Pennsylvania, trailing only current Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant, and by the way, shoots a red hot, 43% from the three (that ranks 9th in the league amongst players w/ minimum 100 attempts). Carroll would be the number 1 offensive option off the bench, and a needed threat from the arc for those nights when Allen can't find the range. We can hold onto our MLE until midseason to see what other options develope..
Also the great thing about this trade is that it is doable!!

Re: Instead of a Posey Clone......
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2008, 02:55:05 PM »

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I wouldn't do Powe straight up for Carroll. I wouldn't even do Scalabrine straight up for Carroll.
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