If Hibbert can stay on the floor, as evident in the floul prone match up between him and Oden kept them both from playing much, his production has been fine. Over 40 minutes would equal 20 ppg, 10 rbs and 3 blocks.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/roy-hibbert
Season GP MPG PPG FG% APG RPG BPG SPG
2007-2008 34 26.3 13.4 60.9 1.9 6.4 2.2 0.5
2006-2007 37 26.4 12.9 67.1 1.1 6.9 2.4 0.5
2005-2006 33 24.0 11.6 59.0 1.3 6.9 1.6 0.2
2004-2005 32 15.8 5.1 46.9 0.9 3.5 1.3 0.3
------------------------------------------------------------Career 136 23.3 10.9 60.3 1.3 5.9 1.9 0.4
All this is mute if the Celtics obviously don't pick him and someone else is able to capitalize on his potential.
Just hope its a lessor team that Hibbert does not put over the top.
What's more important than his production per 40 is the fact that there's been practically no improvement to his game in the last 2 years.
If you mean no improvement in points, rebounds, etc, take a look at my previous post: with the off. scheme and rebounding system his team follows, it's hard to keep improving your numbers indefinitely. In the deff. rebounding, if he's been taught to blockout, that's what he's going to do and of course he won't rebound more: he was already excellent doing it when I saw him extensively last season. But his numbers actually decreased a bit, and that may be bad news, but only an in-depth analysis could explain what happened.
Anyway, stats per 40 minutes aren't enough, they must be pace adjusted. There's not a big difference between Hibbert rebounding numbers and those of other projected 1st rounders that rebound following the flight and reacting.
Did they change the offensive and rebounding schemes between seasons while he was there? If not, the fact that he put up the same numbers 3 years in a row is a bad sign.
Not necessarily. As he's not "hunting" the ball, it may be a sign that simply aren't more shots available to grab for him. Balls haven't started falling in his area more in the 4th year than in the 2nd.
As I said, he does need to learn how to rebound by attacking the ball. Right now, he's a limited rebounder. But he can be coached up.
More balls haven't started falling in his area, but he's not grabbing a higher percentage of the ones that did fall in his area than he did 2 years ago. However you want to try and phrase it, he's no better now than he was 2 years ago.
Well, that's what I've said since the very beginning: he's no better because he was already as good as it gets doing what he's asked to do in the deff. rebounding.
I think he is quite good doing it (the boxing out). It's a very textbook and mechanical thing - opponent, pivot, blockout - but he executes it flawlessly. Once again, he's doing what he was told to do, what he does in practices
When a player is taught and told to rebound that way, the only thing one can evaluate is how well he executes.
This is not extraordinary by any means. Brandon Rush, one of the most heralded wingers in this draft, hasn't shown much of a statistical progress in his 3 years in college. But probably he'll become a better shooter in the NBA than he was in college very quickly, also because of the system he used to play.
Better yet, let's take a look at the better center (and player) ever produced by Georgetown. Patrick Ewing was coached by former Celtics player John Thompson, father of Hibbert's coach. He also used the Princenton offense and a very "old school" approach to rebounding.
RPG
81-82 7.5
82-83 10.2
83-84 10.0
84-85 9.2
As you can see, Ewing also peaked in his 2nd year in Georgetown.
Once again, I'm not saying Hibbert is going to be a good rebounder:
IMO, it's difficult to predict if Hibbert is going to be a good/average/bad/terrible rebounder in the NBA (he's not quick and athletic enough to be excellent).
He needs to develop the other way of rebounding (though the way he boxes out is a very solid fundamental). In the NBA, you don't want a 7'2'' who perfects the blocking out but can't follow the ball. If he manages to do it or no, it's up for grabs. We'll see in a couple of years.
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