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So all the people saying Joe will be a liability in the playoffs were right?

Not yet, as it's only game 3 and 1 loss, but it's certainly leaning that way.

Yes since 2023 playoffs
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So all the people saying Joe will be a liability in the playoffs were right?

Not yet, as it's only game 3 and 1 loss, but it's certainly leaning that way.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Last post by iadera on Today at 11:30:09 AM »
Celtics in the last two postseasons were a combined 10-12 at home.

So far, they are 1-1.

TD Garden really isn't some homecourt advantage anymore which is frankly kinda ridiculous.

Absolutely. I have more confidence in them playing abroad then at home.
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We will beat Miami in this series, but this team ain't going to the NBA Finals. Not to mention C'ship.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Should Jaden Springer be playing more?
« Last post by Alleyoopster on Today at 11:26:51 AM »
I brought the idea of playing Springer up in the past. It didn't go over well with most posters. The majority figure he's not ready for prime time.

One thing that stuck with me is how well he defensed Murray when playing against Atlanta - in particular their first of two end of season meetings.

He rattled Murray to no end - annoying him the whole time he was on the court. What was unusual was he shadowed Murray all the way up the court - basically intimidating him with his size and closeness. I'm not talking playing off him 4 or 5 feet away. Rather, he followed him up the court almost bodying him.

What else Jaden brought to that game was disruption, e.g., a tipped ball, a steal, an unexpected rebound and baskets in the lane against smaller, less physical players. Yes, I know he was -3 for that game against Atlanta. But, that wasn't his fault. He was often playing with second string players if I remember correctly. 


I only saw part of the first half of the second Miami game. It didn't look like the Celtics were disrupting much of the Miami offense.

In the upcoming games, if the Celtics struggle to keep Hero or any other player in check, then it might be a good idea to see if Springer could again play the role of a disrupter. Miami seems to thrive on Boston's defensive schemes. Having someone like Springer on the court might restrict their free flowing offense. I wouldn't be afraid to put him in with the first string players. He can hold his own physically against anyone.

Obviously, this wouldn't be my first course of action, but if what they are doing isn't working. Then, it might be worth shaking things up.

Another player who might disrupt Miami's offense could be Queta. His shot blocking and rebounding could create a more chaotic defense. Again, I would only use him if things weren't going well. Yes, I'm aware of his limitations. But, if what you are doing isn't working. It might be a good idea to try something else.

Coaches tend to be conservative in their playing rotations. Joe is no different. Thus, I wouldn't expect him to play either Jaden or Queta. If he doesn't do that, then him might consider having the Celtics shadow their hottest shooter all the way up the court. Just to annoy them.



 

Another player who tends to act as a disrupter is Queta. s the action is
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Saying Boston has no chance to win the title now just because they won't sweep the Heat is a bit of an overreaction. They were never going to beat the Heat in 4. Spo is too good of a coach. He and his team thrive in this role. He sat around for 2 days hearing how Boston was going to sweep his team and he used that. He used the drubbing in game one to his advantage.


Now Boston gets to sit around for 2 days and stew on that game as they hear how overrated they are from the national media.

Last night was disappointing for sure but it is one game where miami made 24 3s. I want to see how they perform in games 3 and 4 before writing them off. I think they get at least one but probably 2 games there.

If they come home down 3-1 or tied for game 5 then that will be panic time.

Who knows...this just might go 7 games and it might be what they need. They have not been tested this year so now we will see what they are made of. The Heat should not win another game in this series but this group seems to try to do things the hard way or the stupid way.

If we go to 7 games against this team, you cannot tell me you would place $ on this team winning a title. Even if we struggle, we are not winning a title.

Championship teams don't struggle against 8 seeds down multiple starters. They simply don't. Championship teams don't allow a coach to close a mile wide gap in talent. The only way that happens is if the team is artificially handicapped....

Last night looked no different than last year. There's a million reasons to be concerned.

Def. be concerned if they lose game 3. And yes I think the lack of good coaching is and has been a big issue.

There are things I don't like...they scatter shot rotations esp in the second half...Sitting your hottest player in the first quarter for no reason. Not adjusting your game plan when you see Miami is starting to hit from 3.

Don't like JT allowing his so called missed calls to take him totally out of his game mentally, Dumb fouls, missed lay ups, hero ball and missed free throws.

Thought JB was good.

Jrue has lost all confidence offensively it seems. Is missing a ton of easy shots at the rim.

KP was putrid yesterday. Never adjusted to being leaned on.

Def. things have to be corrected. Celtics are still their own worst enemy.


I just do not get a team also being so bad at home in the playoffs.
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NBA tracking on Miami 3-point attempts in Game 2:

Very tight defense (0-2 feet): 1-1
Tight defense (2-4 feet): 1-5
Open (4-6 feet): 6-14
Wide open (6+ feet): 15-23


No Joe, they were not contested as you said.

So this tracking is saying that MIA had 37 3PAs that were either open or wide open (and made 21)?  That doesn't sound right.  The defense did not look that bad to me, but I wasn't measuring how close the defender was.

What was the tracking for BOS 3PA?

The thing with these stats is there is a confounder — players generally don’t take threes if they aren’t open.  The substantial majority of attempted threes in virtually every game are open or wide open — I’d bet 70% or more.  Miami made a higher percentage on those than they normally do, and they started out hot so they kept taking them.  We made a lower percentage than we normally do, and we started out cold, so we took fewer and got away from our usual offense.

I added the BOS attempt summary (MIA defense) after the original post:

Very tight defense (0-2 feet): 0-0
Tight defense (2-4 feet): 1-6
Open (4-6 feet): 10-17
Wide open (6+ feet): 2-9

It is exactly as Celtics2012 says.  Most of BOS 3PA were open or wide open too.  79% for BOS, 86% for MIA.  MIA had more open/wide open attempt overall and a high percentage of the total, but to say that MIA shots were all open and BOS shots were defended is not accurate.  And MIA hit way above their norms for percent made.  BOS didn't

I expect that there will be some adjustment or more emphasis on defending the 3, but I don't expect or believe there needs to be any radical change in the defense.  My adjustment would be to pressure the ball earlier, make it harder for them to get into their set.  They are still going to get open and wide open 3PAs, every team does, but the harder you make them work to get to the shot, the less likely they are to make the shot.

26 open 3PTs for us, versus 37 for them.  Almost 50% more. 

Miami effectively limited our three point attempts, whereas according to the actual players on the court, we left Miami open by design.
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Saying Boston has no chance to win the title now just because they won't sweep the Heat is a bit of an overreaction. They were never going to beat the Heat in 4. Spo is too good of a coach. He and his team thrive in this role. He sat around for 2 days hearing how Boston was going to sweep his team and he used that. He used the drubbing in game one to his advantage.


Now Boston gets to sit around for 2 days and stew on that game as they hear how overrated they are from the national media.

Last night was disappointing for sure but it is one game where miami made 24 3s. I want to see how they perform in games 3 and 4 before writing them off. I think they get at least one but probably 2 games there.

If they come home down 3-1 or tied for game 5 then that will be panic time.

Who knows...this just might go 7 games and it might be what they need. They have not been tested this year so now we will see what they are made of. The Heat should not win another game in this series but this group seems to try to do things the hard way or the stupid way.

Did the way we lose last night look any different from the way it did last year? One team has an upgraded roster, the other is depleted. Now ask yourself what the common denominator is.....

common denominator?

JOE BLOW,, WYC, and BRAD endorsing this joke of a hire.

and let me say this.....while joe is garbage....we have some bad bad red flags popping up withg JT and JB mental laziness ands softness. I spoke wioh a nuggs fan and he said we are as soft as charmin and if we make it somehow they will stomp a mudhole in us. joker would destroy us in the paint.

Agreed. I love JT's talent but it always perplexed me how he can idolize Kobe but not try and mimic his alpha personality.
I think JB has somewhat of a dog in him, but his basketball IQ can utilize it.

These 2 waste several possessions a game on heat checks and bad pass attempts.
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Around the NBA / Re: 2024 NBA Season and Playoffs
« Last post by angryguy77 on Today at 10:32:44 AM »
Now that's how a #1 seed should play. Blowout the 8 seed like how they're supposed to. Not sure why certain 1 seeds have so much trouble with the 8th best team in their conference.

Did you miss them winning the first game at the buzzer or are you just trying to be annoying?

Fact is they still won and are up 2-0 while Boston is 1-1 at home against a depleted Heat team, what's more embarrassing?

Obviously we would all prefer to be up 2-0 but pretty silly to talk about them taking care of a business like they should with a blowout when they had a squeaker the game before. Defeats your point.

Squeaker? They won by 20.

I was referring to OKC squeaking by Pelicans in the first game when Mccollum missed a three at the buzzer that would have won the game for them.

Ahh, I take it back.
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Game Threads / Re: Heat (0-1) at Celtics (1-0) Round 1 Game #2 4/24/24
« Last post by liam on Today at 10:27:17 AM »
More shots for Hauser. If Pritchard is going to shoot 0 shots you might as well give Springer some run. If Zinger is going 1-9 you might as well give Q some run. Please for the love of god no more two big lineups. The Heat don't have anyone taller than Tatum playing. The Heat give us trouble because we don't adjust. When it's not working you have to change it up, Joe. I think that's the coach's main job.
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