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Celtics Talk / Re: 2019 way to early mock draft
« Last post by CelticsElite on Yesterday at 10:57:04 PM »
Idk but I really like cam reddish. Can score from anywhere, excellent defender, ridiculous length and wingspan
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Celtics Talk / 2019 way to early mock draft
« Last post by Hawkeye199 on Yesterday at 10:53:27 PM »
Does anyone have ESPN insider that minds sharing? The Sacramento pick should be really good as the West gets even stronger. I just wanna start preparing early.
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Around the NBA / Re: Dwightmare traded to Nets/Now FA. Should Cs target?
« Last post by Phantom255x on Yesterday at 10:44:16 PM »
Non-guaranteed minimum.

Wow, wonder if he would consider that.

he has like 6 ex s ,  untold children to support .....the man HAS to work to keep all that going.

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Around the NBA / Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Last post by Phantom255x on Yesterday at 10:41:54 PM »
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2782624-kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-spurs-prefer-to-send-star-to-eastern-conference

Interesting report that the Spurs won't trade Kawhi out West.

Ultimately, I expect them to keep him and try to work it out with him, but it also does worry me, as that makes a place like Philly a prime target for San Antonio. I don't think either Cleveland or New York has enough to get him, but they also become targets, too.

I kind of get the feeling now that he actually stays in San Antonio and they work it out. That said, Kawhi's seriously got to man up and stand up to his uncle, who I'm pretty sure is the one fueling the fire out of "Kawhi's camp".  ::)

New York could flip Ntilikina (who Pop loves), Knox, a player like Hardaway and some future pick and that could get it done. I think Kawhi would be willing to play in NYK long term according to Begley. So Clippers, Lakers and Knicks could take the risk knowing he'd re-sign long term.

The other thing though, I'm not sure Philly is willing to take the risk of making a trade for Kawhi and seeing him bolt a year later (like the Celtics are thinking). Give up Fultz + Smith + 2021 Heat Pick + Saric for a rental not guaranteed to re-up long term? Yikes. Same thing with us if we gave up Jaylen + Grizz/Kings Pick in a package for a rental. YIKES.
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Not sure as to which gif to use, here, so I'll just post them both ;D -





So, to recap, your signature is basically just you complaining about DA not valuing rebounding.

Then DA drafts the best rebounding option possible, maybe the guy with the best rebounding upside heís ever picked, and youíre complaining about it more than any other Celtics fan.

Then just for reference, Alkins the guy you wanted at #28 went undrafted, and your big man binkie Patton is an awful rebounder compared to a Williams.

Seems like you donít want to update your views on Williams, so maybe itís time to update the sig?

Is it possible to get 10 TP's off a single post?

KO!

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Celtics Talk / Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Last post by tazzmaniac on Yesterday at 10:37:36 PM »
We need to be careful about pictures like this. They are not standing right next to each other and are not standing straight up with feet together. That means we canít really use that as a good comparison.

Well some posters (or at least one) wonít accept Nike camp measurements, so itís all weíve got.

This. I'm still digging. Instead of googling, I'm now looking up the photo galleries from teams that have NBA players that attended the combine last year or this year. I'll post the results later.

:)

I think itís best to let it go.  You had the correct response hours ago.  Those Nike numbers are far more likely to miss on the low side than the high side given that he was 17 at the time.  People will believe what they want to.
It is a silly discussion.  Williams height, length and jumping ability are clearly good enough to play center.  What really will matter in his ability to play center is his weight and strength.  Unlike say Noel who is a couple inches taller but built like Twiggy, Williams has a sturdy frame and appears to be pretty strong.  I suspect with NBA strength training he'll meet that bar too. 
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Around the NBA / Re: Dwightmare traded to Nets/Now FA. Should Cs target?
« Last post by SHAQATTACK on Yesterday at 10:36:36 PM »
Non-guaranteed minimum.

Wow, wonder if he would consider that.

he has like 6 ex s ,  untold children to support .....the man HAS to work to keep all that going.
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Not sure as to which gif to use, here, so I'll just post them both ;D -





So, to recap, your signature is basically just you complaining about DA not valuing rebounding.

Then DA drafts the best rebounding option possible, maybe the guy with the best rebounding upside heís ever picked, and youíre complaining about it more than any other Celtics fan.

Then just for reference, Alkins the guy you wanted at #28 went undrafted, and your big man binkie Patton is an awful rebounder compared to a Williams.

Seems like you donít want to update your views on Williams, so maybe itís time to update the sig?
Danny Ainge doesnít properly value guards with no recognisable NBA skills would be more appropriate now
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Around the NBA / Re: Dwightmare traded to Nets/Now FA. Should Cs target?
« Last post by Phantom255x on Yesterday at 10:36:04 PM »
It's absurd to want Baynes over Howard, performance-wise. Of course Howard would perform better than Baynes in those 18 minutes, in a vacuum. But would Howard be okay with just 18 minutes, off the bench? If he's in ring-chasing mode, maybe. We're gonna be the number two locale for that in the league. It would rock to have Howard, Theis, Williams off the bench.

If Celtics are getting Howard, he's starting. No reason for him to come off the bench if he averages 16/12 per game.


Some of these comments make me cry because I don't understand their logic. Why would someone who still averages a double double and a top defender in the league STILL, come off the bench? 😞 I just don't get some of y'all logic man. If signed he is THE BEST CENTER ON OUR TEAM.

If he's really as good as you think he is, WHY has he been traded/dumped by his last 4 teams?? Again, I'm fine taking a risk on him with the veteran minimum exception (wouldn't mind), but it is possible he's truly a headcase in the locker room. I'll trust Ainge on his judgement regarding Howard in FA.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Last post by Beat LA on Yesterday at 10:32:15 PM »
How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?
He didn't participate in the NBA combine.  So whether he's 6-9 or 6-10 is going to make a big difference to you?  I'd say he's Horford's size but with a bigger wingspan and much more athletic.
Yeah, he more than makes up for not being 6'11"-7' tall with his insane hops and his 7'5" wingspan. Plus, he's a very strong 240lbs. Guess who else was 6'9", 240lbs, and was an athletic defensive minded rebounder? Big Ben ;)

Forget the fact that Wallace was actually 6'7", iirc, as the guy had an insatiable desire to win and a motor that never quit, which are two of the very traits that Williams completely lacks, so aside from his measurables, I honestly don't see as to how they are at all similar players, but hopefully I'm wrong :).
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Well, heís billed as 6í9Ē according to ESPN and BBallRef, but maybe it was the afro :P

I realize that, but in addition to reading, somewhere, that Wallace said that he was actually 6'7", here's a picture of him standing next to Bill Russell, who was also 6'9" -



Perhaps it's just a height in shoes versus without them kind of thing, idk, lol ;D.[/quote]

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He also never achieved anything until Detroit took a flyer on him, with much more serious question marks (like a lack of any NBA talent) than Williams has. They also play quite similarly. Protect the ring in a similar manner, and chase boards in a similar manner. The line was obviously tongue-in-cheek, but there are definitely similarities

Listen, in fairness, I wasn't watching the NBA at that time, but from what I've been able to gather, the only questions surrounding Wallace, iirc, were those having to do with his being undersized and an almost complete lack of any semblance of an offensive game, whatsoever, not to mention the fact that, and this is one crucial difference between Williams and Wallace, Ben played at Virginia Union in Division II, so it's not like he was ever pegged as even a possible draftee, let alone a potential lottery pick, as was the case with "Phone Home" ::).

Physically, okay, sure, I can certainly see some similarities, but at the same time, no one ever questioned Wallace's motor nor his work ethic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLyCkZl2fMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg5GyuCdBw8
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