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Around the NBA / Re: NBA 2018 Playoffs Thread
« Last post by celticsclay on Today at 05:53:12 PM »
If it’s GSW vs Cavaliers, ratings will be trash.
No....
The last three years of GSW vs CLE have seen ratings of 11.6, 11.4, and 11.3, a very slight decrease, but the viewship has gone up each year from 19.94 million viewers to 20.28 to 20.38 last year. Those ratings killed every other NBA Finals ratings since 2004.

NBA viewers love the rivalry. I can't see ratings changing all that much for a GSW-CLE 4.

You might be right. I confess that was more my heart than my head. Still, in previous years I think there was suspense about whether Cleveland could take the Warriors down. I am thinking that if the Warriors feel like it they would win a series this year in 4. Five games the most.

I don't know. I live in Oakland so a lot of people are still excited here obviously. However, a lot of my friends from the pennsylvania area that are casual NBA fans say they are not into it and may only watch half the games. That is how I feel cool kind of. I ended up watching just about all of it last year even though I was bored by it. This year I think I may finally take the plunge and not watch every game. I have seen that matchup enough and it just doesn't really interest me to see them play 4-7 more times.

I don't expect them to tank ratings wise, but I would be surprised if there isn't at least some viewer fatigue that makes them the lowest of the 4. This happens with everything.. too much of the best thing it becomes less popular.

The ratings will go down because Golden State vs. Cleveland this year will be extremely lopsided. Barring like 2 significant injuries to Golden State, everyone will expect Golden State to sweep Cleveland and blow them out in like 3 of the games. I mean, last year's Cavaliers team with Lebron averaging a 30-point triple double and Kyrie averaging 29/4/4 were beaten soundly in 5 by Golden State. The lone win coming on a night at home where it seemed every Cavs player had a career night lol. The Cavs don't even have Kyrie anymore and their supporting cast is worse than last year's (defense has gotten slightly worse as well).

Yes, Cleveland vs. Golden State is probably a match up people are sick of seeing now (4 times in a row), but I think ratings would remain great and be high IF folks thought that CLE had a chance to beat them and the series had a chance to go 6-7. I'd frankly be surprised if it goes 5 games.

Well there is fatigue, but I agree. This year it seems like a harlem globetrotters washington generals matchup. i don't even think the refs can do enough to give Lebron a shot.
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There is no way DA trades Irving for KAT straight up. It would take KAT and Wiggins to get Irving. Irving is a much better player.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Scott Foster to ref Game 4
« Last post by Phantom255x on Today at 05:51:05 PM »
So, what, you guys are already conceding? I say CHALLENGE ACCEPTED ;) ;D.

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Celtics Talk / I'm just hoping for a decent game
« Last post by droopdog7 on Today at 05:46:52 PM »
If the team isn't ready to compete, they might as well stay in the locker room.  Last game was abysmal is every way, shape, and form. 
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Celtics Talk / Re: Scott Foster to ref Game 4
« Last post by Beat LA on Today at 05:46:23 PM »
So, what, you guys are already conceding? I say CHALLENGE ACCEPTED ;) ;D.
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Hating on players because they want to play with other talented players is goofy. These are all competitive athletes that want to win every year. The way to do so is to surround yourself with other good players that want to win. It really is this simple. Danny and Kyrie want Kawhi, Paul George, KAT, and Anthony Davis. They're not concerned about how fans on blogs interpret their roster building.


And yes, Durant is amazing. I think he will be a top 10 player in league history.
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Around the NBA / Re: NBA 2018 Playoffs Thread
« Last post by Phantom255x on Today at 05:39:03 PM »
If it’s GSW vs Cavaliers, ratings will be trash.
No....
The last three years of GSW vs CLE have seen ratings of 11.6, 11.4, and 11.3, a very slight decrease, but the viewship has gone up each year from 19.94 million viewers to 20.28 to 20.38 last year. Those ratings killed every other NBA Finals ratings since 2004.

NBA viewers love the rivalry. I can't see ratings changing all that much for a GSW-CLE 4.

You might be right. I confess that was more my heart than my head. Still, in previous years I think there was suspense about whether Cleveland could take the Warriors down. I am thinking that if the Warriors feel like it they would win a series this year in 4. Five games the most.

I don't know. I live in Oakland so a lot of people are still excited here obviously. However, a lot of my friends from the pennsylvania area that are casual NBA fans say they are not into it and may only watch half the games. That is how I feel cool kind of. I ended up watching just about all of it last year even though I was bored by it. This year I think I may finally take the plunge and not watch every game. I have seen that matchup enough and it just doesn't really interest me to see them play 4-7 more times.

I don't expect them to tank ratings wise, but I would be surprised if there isn't at least some viewer fatigue that makes them the lowest of the 4. This happens with everything.. too much of the best thing it becomes less popular.

The ratings will go down because Golden State vs. Cleveland this year will be extremely lopsided. Barring like 2 significant injuries to Golden State, everyone will expect Golden State to sweep Cleveland and blow them out in like 3 of the games. I mean, last year's Cavaliers team with Lebron averaging a 30-point triple double and Kyrie averaging 29/4/4 were beaten soundly in 5 by Golden State. The lone win coming on a night at home where it seemed every Cavs player had a career night lol. The Cavs don't even have Kyrie anymore and their supporting cast is worse than last year's (defense has gotten slightly worse as well).

Yes, Cleveland vs. Golden State is probably a match up people are sick of seeing now (4 times in a row), but I think ratings would remain great and be high IF folks thought that CLE had a chance to beat them and the series had a chance to go 6-7. I'd frankly be surprised if it goes 5 games. 
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Honestly, Durant can go on to win 5 rings, but no one will care. No one will respect it.

As much as I despise Lebron, his 1 ring with Cleveland will be worth more than any and all rings Durant wins in his career as a Warrior.

Might sound harsh, but that's how I feel about it, and I'm sure many do. Weakest move in NBA History as of today. If Lebron joins Golden State, then that would become the weakest  :P

I think that's the difference between LeBum and KD - LeBum wants to be THE MAN, he wants the responsibility of being the one that molds a team. I think KD is more comfortable being one of the men. He's not the type of person who will take a team and mold it in his image.

Oh right, that's why he went to Miami ::).
Huh? LeBron definitely was the man on that team, and he definitely contributed to the shape of that team

Statistically, yes, but not in crunch time. Miami was always Wade's team, imo, with Lebron routinely deferring to the former, as well as that other guy, in the biggest moments.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Scott Foster to ref Game 4
« Last post by Phantom255x on Today at 05:34:39 PM »


 :laugh: :'(
how sad is it I can't tell if this is real or not. 

going with 'not' ==> he needs votes in Ohio again so can't see him badmouthing Cavs ;)
its clearly fake because the President doesn’t reuse nicknames so the “crooked”  thing is wrong. He doesn’t use “sad” as an ending and it doesn’t fit there. Also he doesn’t watch nba basketball. And no tweet will ever have 10k retweets and only 3k favorites

Wait... you mean.... it's not photoshop?



 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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How about a 3-way (that is equally unlikely as the original proposed trade)

To PHO:     Irving ($20M)
To BOS:     Towns ($7.8M) , Chandler ($13.5M)
To Minn:    #1 Pick ($6,7M), a future pick (maybe Clippers)

Filling in around this to be sure the salaries work (throw in Nader somewhere if you want).  I don't think this is likely but I do think this is fair if the Celtics were to go in this direction (trading Irving).

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Horford
Towns

Rozier
Tatum
Morris
Chandler
Yabusele
Ojeleye

That is a pretty good team.  Maybe not as good as a team with Irving in the first year but this team is young and durable.  We would probably add some bench wings (easy enough to find).

Did I mention that this is hypothetical and I don't think the Celtics are going to trade Irving but it is more likely that they trade him for a player that can contribute immediately over a draft pick.

Why does Minnie do this deal? The ceiling with the 1 pick is probably a player about the caliber of Towns.

If the Cs did this deal, where is Theis in the lineup?
FWIW, the only reason I could see Minny doing the deal is if Jimmy Butler (who is apparently tight with Kyrie) tells them "I'm leaving unless you bring in Kyrie".   If they are at risk of losing Butler for nothing in free agency next summer, it could change the equation.  NBA stars have so much leverage... so if those two want to play together, it could be a problem.  That said, they might enjoy playing in somewhere like Los Angeles instead.  Minny is the pits.
Wait, I am confused, I posted this in another thread (not this one) and my reply to Sophomore was that I think it is very unlikely that the Wolves trade Towns, I was just discussing the theme of the thread as a hypothetical if they were to trade him, getting a #1 pick from PHO in a highly acclaimed draft year along with another pick would be a pretty fair deal.

If they do trade Towns for a couple of picks, Jimmy Butler would be justifiably upset.  I am sure he would want to keep the good player so they can win now.  But my proposed deal had Irving going to PHO, not Minny.  I don't see even an unlikely deal with Minny direct.  It would have to be Towns plus another $10M or so coming back.  That was where Chandler came in.
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