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Celtics Talk / Re: Rondo goes through full practice
« Last post by playdream on Today at 12:38:11 PM »
The truth is
If Rondo can't go all-out he shouldn't be on the court
If he can't adjust himself to BS's system he shouldn't be on the team
It is that simple
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so are we all set to put rosters into Yahoo? Time is short! Stop the trading and give the commish time to get the transition done, LOL
Lol, trading deadline was midnight last night so we had to hurry
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Celtics Talk / Re: Rondo goes through full practice
« Last post by GetLucky on Today at 12:35:17 PM »
If Rondo isn't ready to go all-out ... then, I hope Stevens keeps him on the bench.

Let Smart start and let Rondo build up his game-fitness from backup PG slot.

+1. Absolutely

No player should be given a free pass. And a great player should not want a free pass
I would think that the player getting a free pass in this case would be Marcus Smart. Smart hasn't even outplayed Evan Turner for the back up PG position and Rondo has a ring and 4 All Star games and 4 All-Defensive team awards and averaged more than 11 assist per game three times to prove he deserves the starting position over both those players.

Your statement makes little sense.

And when Rondo is healthy and ready to play at full capacity, he will regain his starting spot.

Just until then - play the guys who are healthy enough to give best effort.

This isn't like last season when Ainge traded away all the backcourt depth and Boston had no quality alternatives to playing Rondo while he was at 60-70% for 30mpg.

This year's team has great depth. It can has good alternatives on it's roster to a partially-healthy Rondo. When Rondo is ready, the starting PG is his. It is not under threat. He is far and away the best player on the team.

But if he isn't ready to play at a high level from Day One, then bring him off the bench and let him play himself into shape. Let the other guys do the heavy lifting for now.

Guys, he broke his hand, not a leg. He can still run and function, even when recovering with his hand wrapped up. He'll be in fine condition. And Rondo never even uses his left hand on layups anyway. :P
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Celtics Talk / Re: Any way we can trade for Nurkic?
« Last post by hpantazo on Today at 12:29:34 PM »
Considering our need for a center, we should have used some of our assets to trade up a few spots for him. Too late now.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Rondo goes through full practice
« Last post by BballTim on Today at 12:27:25 PM »
If Rondo isn't ready to go all-out ... then, I hope Stevens keeps him on the bench.

Let Smart start and let Rondo build up his game-fitness from backup PG slot.

+1. Absolutely

No player should be given a free pass. And a great player should not want a free pass

Who is giving anyone a free pass?  I mean come on.  What are you even talking about?

Good to hear that Rondo is coming back.  Every thread doesn't have to turn into this nonsense does it?

It's so weird how obsessed this guy is with knocking Rondo, even when Rondo hasn't done anything wrong. It's like Rondo broke his heart or something.

naw. Just not a fan of players that play like Rondo the past 2 seasons.  Near triple doubles, yet the team goes on long losing streaks , and when he gets injured the team starts to win.  He needs to get it

On to top of this, i'm not alone in criticizing Rondo. Have you heard Tommy, Jackie all say the same things about Rondo??

I guess you chose to ignore their comments and all you can think about is the glory stuff that happened 3, 4 years ago.

This was never Rondo's fault. This was Doc's putrid, vomit inducing offense that he was completely unwilling to adjust in his 6 years within the Big 3 era. They gave Rondo the keys without even designing the offense to suit his game. Stevens has been here a little over a year, and he has completely changed the system and structure to fit Rondo's game more. Fast pace and 3PT shooting. Rondo will rack them up in a motion offense. This is a good offense to run regardless of whether Rondo is here or not, but this is finally an offense that is designed to allow Rondo and the team to potentially succeed.

You make a valid point. Could of been Doc's fault for how things went on the offensive end.  But what was not Doc's fault was Rondo lazy style , gambling defensive ways.    We were getting killed on the defensive end a few seasons ago.  The opposing pg got through the initial wall (Rondo) repeatedly and they were like in candy land with how many options they had to score a bucket.  When Rondo went down due to injury, AB and Lee took care of business and guys like KG , didn't have to suffer.

  Except, unsurprisingly, that's not what really happened. The team started the season playing terrible defense in November, better defense in December and good defense in January (with AB back). The defense we were playing in January before Rondo got hurt was better than the defense we played after he was hurt. I sometimes wonder whether your claims about Rondo are generally inaccurate because you don't like him, or if you don't like him because your opinion on what happens on the court is generally inaccurate.

I guess Tommy and Jackie don't like him either

You can be against my points regarding RR all you want.  We are just fans.   But imo criticism/points made by a Celtics legend like Tommy, shouldn't be discounted

  How many times has Tommy criticized Rondo? How many times has he praised Rondo? I'd guess his opinion of Rondo is much higher than yours is. Imo you shouldn't just discount it.

I don't recall Tommy critiquing Rondo before last season. However, in April he said..
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"One of the things you do, and it's tough to do with a guy like Rondo, is you pull him out and put someone else in," proposed Heinsohn. "I don't care [that he's the captain]. That's what you have to do. You've got to pull him aside and talk to him. It's a bad habit that he has from playing with different types of players. He has to play the style that brings out the best in these current teammates."

This past game against the Nets he again started talking about how the ball is really zipping from player to player and how Rondo might have a hard time adjusting to the system. He talked about how Rondo used to pass the ball ahead early in his career, but how he now walks the ball up and doesn't push the tempo.

This is also a good article, which speaks about Rondo's ball dominance:
http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/3/15/5469908/the-three-laws-of-rajon-rondo-brad-stevens-motion-offense-muse-analysis-spor****-stats-advanced-nba

Can Rondo adjust to Stevens' motion offense? Can he play off the ball in that offense? Will he be happy if his assist numbers presumingly drop as he no longer dominates the ball as much? Can he play with the pace Stevens' wants?

These are legitimate questions. Questions that will likely decide Rondo's future with the team.

To Tim he doesn't remember in which order Tommy has praised him and criticized him.   The worse has been as of recent

  Once again, making statements about something when you don't have the slightest idea whether it's true or not. Once again, it's not. Par for the course.
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so are we all set to put rosters into Yahoo? Time is short! Stop the trading and give the commish time to get the transition done, LOL
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Like  said before, Im happy with this trade..gave me 2 good, not great, SF & SG in Carroll and Martin..I needed help at those 2 positions..if they can average around 25 fantasy points a game, im happy..Amare knee holds up I be thrilled lol..plus Shabazz has the talent to be good, maybe not on Minny roster but somewhere else..and I don't like picks anyhow and rather have good veteran players than a gamble on a prospect..guess that's why I finish around top 5 every year...only time will tell bout this trade
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Celtics Talk / Re: Any way we can trade for Nurkic?
« Last post by triboy16f on Today at 12:23:42 PM »
He is going to end up as one of the biggest steals of the 2014 draft.  Iif Denver skipped on him, Celtics might have taken him next (though Danny usually doesn't draft international players)

Nurkic knows what to do once he gets the ball downlow.  He has really wide shoulders and is 280 pounds , which helps him get his way. On top of this, he is extremely mobile for his height. Haven't seen a guy with his body type move like that in a long time

Denver will not trade him unless they got overpaid. They prob rather trade Mozgov or Mcgee first.

The one thing Nurkic needs to work on, is his defense and putting out consistent effort. He is also not going to block alot of shots but will be able to alter them due to being a wall. 
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CBS will have these guys playing hard for 48 minutes and will have the depth to keep up an above-average perimeter defense throughout. He will also have more consistent rotations, and buy in to a clearer offensive game plan. With the depth, we should be able to make up a little against most second units, and I expect us to be in most games to the end. Our shooting will be improved this year with Thornton, and improvement from KO, Sully and AB. Rondo has had a full year to recover and is in a contract year. No doubt our defensive frontline is a problem.

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Celtics Talk / Re: Rondo goes through full practice
« Last post by triboy16f on Today at 12:17:08 PM »
If Rondo isn't ready to go all-out ... then, I hope Stevens keeps him on the bench.

Let Smart start and let Rondo build up his game-fitness from backup PG slot.

+1. Absolutely

No player should be given a free pass. And a great player should not want a free pass

Who is giving anyone a free pass?  I mean come on.  What are you even talking about?

Good to hear that Rondo is coming back.  Every thread doesn't have to turn into this nonsense does it?

It's so weird how obsessed this guy is with knocking Rondo, even when Rondo hasn't done anything wrong. It's like Rondo broke his heart or something.

naw. Just not a fan of players that play like Rondo the past 2 seasons.  Near triple doubles, yet the team goes on long losing streaks , and when he gets injured the team starts to win.  He needs to get it

On to top of this, i'm not alone in criticizing Rondo. Have you heard Tommy, Jackie all say the same things about Rondo??

I guess you chose to ignore their comments and all you can think about is the glory stuff that happened 3, 4 years ago.

This was never Rondo's fault. This was Doc's putrid, vomit inducing offense that he was completely unwilling to adjust in his 6 years within the Big 3 era. They gave Rondo the keys without even designing the offense to suit his game. Stevens has been here a little over a year, and he has completely changed the system and structure to fit Rondo's game more. Fast pace and 3PT shooting. Rondo will rack them up in a motion offense. This is a good offense to run regardless of whether Rondo is here or not, but this is finally an offense that is designed to allow Rondo and the team to potentially succeed.

You make a valid point. Could of been Doc's fault for how things went on the offensive end.  But what was not Doc's fault was Rondo lazy style , gambling defensive ways.    We were getting killed on the defensive end a few seasons ago.  The opposing pg got through the initial wall (Rondo) repeatedly and they were like in candy land with how many options they had to score a bucket.  When Rondo went down due to injury, AB and Lee took care of business and guys like KG , didn't have to suffer.

  Except, unsurprisingly, that's not what really happened. The team started the season playing terrible defense in November, better defense in December and good defense in January (with AB back). The defense we were playing in January before Rondo got hurt was better than the defense we played after he was hurt. I sometimes wonder whether your claims about Rondo are generally inaccurate because you don't like him, or if you don't like him because your opinion on what happens on the court is generally inaccurate.

I guess Tommy and Jackie don't like him either

You can be against my points regarding RR all you want.  We are just fans.   But imo criticism/points made by a Celtics legend like Tommy, shouldn't be discounted

  How many times has Tommy criticized Rondo? How many times has he praised Rondo? I'd guess his opinion of Rondo is much higher than yours is. Imo you shouldn't just discount it.

I don't recall Tommy critiquing Rondo before last season. However, in April he said..
Quote
"One of the things you do, and it's tough to do with a guy like Rondo, is you pull him out and put someone else in," proposed Heinsohn. "I don't care [that he's the captain]. That's what you have to do. You've got to pull him aside and talk to him. It's a bad habit that he has from playing with different types of players. He has to play the style that brings out the best in these current teammates."

This past game against the Nets he again started talking about how the ball is really zipping from player to player and how Rondo might have a hard time adjusting to the system. He talked about how Rondo used to pass the ball ahead early in his career, but how he now walks the ball up and doesn't push the tempo.

This is also a good article, which speaks about Rondo's ball dominance:
http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/3/15/5469908/the-three-laws-of-rajon-rondo-brad-stevens-motion-offense-muse-analysis-spor****-stats-advanced-nba

Can Rondo adjust to Stevens' motion offense? Can he play off the ball in that offense? Will he be happy if his assist numbers presumingly drop as he no longer dominates the ball as much? Can he play with the pace Stevens' wants?

These are legitimate questions. Questions that will likely decide Rondo's future with the team.

BballTim doesn't remember in which order Tommy has praised him and criticized him.   The worse has been as of recent
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