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LOL.  Why would you trade Bass for a 2nd round pick by itself?

1st of all, 95% of 2nd round picks don't turn out as good as Brandon Bass.

2nd of all, Bass' contract is actually quite reasonable for his production, and he is only signed until the end of this season.

Now if you move Bass in a package for a better player, yes a trade makes sense.  But 2nd round picks are pretty much considered garbage in the NBA, trade fillers at best.

I believe that Ainge is being patient because he is trying to make a deal to improve the team.  Not make a deal, to just make a deal.

Thornton, Bass, 1st round picks for a star level talent at the trade deadline?  Maybe but we might have to add more.  Depends on how badly that player wants to leave his team and how bad his contract would be for us.

I think you see if you can trade him to Philly for a 2nd round pick.  Boston sheds the salary on a player that will be gone this summer anyway.  Philly needs salary and they could use some solid veteran leaders on the team.  Bass also isn't good enough to effect their wins or losses, so it seems like a trade that makes some sense for both team.
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Al Jefferson is really good, good enough to net us KG. And it isn't Danny's fault that he didn't get Tim Duncan...
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What if he's a better-shooting version of Boris Diaw?  Think about it - both guys are defensive liabilities, can play inside and out (although that's not Diaw's strength), and, perhaps most importantly, they're both great passers.  Wasn't Diaw also a guard when he was younger?  I thought that I heard that somewhere.

Olynyk's height can't be underestimated.  It pushes his potential to a higher point.  Having those skills already at 7 feet is a big positive.

He reminds me of Vlade, but with range and a bit more scoring.  That's my hope at least as he keeps going.  High level passing out of a big is great in any package, but with a guy that can shoot too, it really starts opening up the floor.  In my opinion there is plenty to be optimistic about.
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Celtics Talk / Re: Sullinger and Ray Rice
« Last post by Ogaju on Today at 09:30:20 PM »
also 10 hours to call the police means she may have self-inflicted the bruises on herself. This is why maters have to be decided in court where the facts are sorted out. Most of these young athletes feel trapped by these women, and there are many of the women who do trap these young men. Therefore the fact that it took her 10 hours to call the police cuts both ways.
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No, I'm not, and I wouldn't feel so strongly about this had that been the case.  These are the players I wanted at the time, and whether you choose to believe me or not, history has clearly shown that the guys who I wanted have been far better players than the ones selected by Ainge, and it's not even close.  Without further ado, then, by year, here are the guys I wanted at that moment in time (all of these selections were made from the Celtics' original draft positions, btw):

2008: Deandre Jordan (30th).
2009: Wesley Matthews (57th).
2010: Lance Stephenson (19th) and Samardo Samuels (52nd).
2011: Honestly, this one is my worst draft.  Jordan Hamilton (25th) and Scotty Hopson (55th).
2012: Jared Sullinger (21st.  Ainge had to take him there.), Tony Wroten (22nd.  If I remember this one correctly.  At the very least, it was between Wroten, PJ III, and Arnett Moultrie; and no, Wroten would not have fit on our team had Stephenson been here, but, imo, he was the bpa.), and Henry Sims (51st).
2013: Tim Hardaway Jr. (16th).
2014: I actually liked Danny's picks for once, as I wanted Smart and Young, too. It was a toss-up between Smart and Randle, though, and it was tough seeing Phoenix take TJ Warren, but the other guys who I wished we could have gotten were McGary and KJ McDaniels.  Rodney Hood may also come back to haunt us, as well.  Man was that draft loaded lol. 

I'd also like to point out that, probably because I'm a pessimist lol, I don't tend to make player comparisons.  Did I have any idea that Lance Stephenson would be this good?  No, but I loved his talent.

So, how'd I do?

Not nearly as good as you think, even if we accept that these were your picks at the time.  DeAndre Jordan is horribly limited on offense, isn't really that good on defense and can't shoot free throws.  Lance Stephenson is a major head case.  And I don't exactly think Hardway Jr. has proven anything yet.

Mike

So is Perkins, but Jordan has better size, speed, and athleticism.  He would have been a huge upgrade to Perk, imo; and what do you mean that he isn't that good on defense?  Are you serious? :o  Wow.

Plus, at least my guys are STILL IN THE LEAGUE, at the very minimum.  Danny didn't exactly set the bar very high.  You really don't think that those guys would have made a big difference for us?
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What made San Antonio so good was their drafting.

In 2008, the Spurs drafted Goran Dragic, then traded him for Malik Hairston.  They straight up released Hairston in 2010.

In 2010, the Spurs took James Anderson with the 20th pick in the draft.  He spent time in the D-League and the Spurs did not pick up the option on his rookie contract.  Taken in the draft after Anderson were Jordan Crawford, Quincy Pondexter, Landry Fields and Lance Stephenson.

What idiots!

Mike

Um, in 2008, the Spurs also took George Hill 26th, so...

And they liked George Hill more than Dragic?

Again, what idiots!

Mike

Not really.  Hill was great for them.

Miss the point much?  I'm being sarcastic by pointing out how even the mighty Spurs fail if they're judged by the same standard as Ainge is by some.

Mike

No, I understood what you said, but I just felt that it was necessary to point out that George Hill is certainly no scrub.  You acted like he was JR Giddens lol.
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What made San Antonio so good was their drafting.

In 2008, the Spurs drafted Goran Dragic, then traded him for Malik Hairston.  They straight up released Hairston in 2010.

In 2010, the Spurs took James Anderson with the 20th pick in the draft.  He spent time in the D-League and the Spurs did not pick up the option on his rookie contract.  Taken in the draft after Anderson were Jordan Crawford, Quincy Pondexter, Landry Fields and Lance Stephenson.

What idiots!

Mike

Um, in 2008, the Spurs also took George Hill 26th, so...

And they liked George Hill more than Dragic?

Again, what idiots!

Mike

Not really.  Hill was great for them.

Miss the point much?  I'm being sarcastic by pointing out how even the mighty Spurs fail if they're judged by the same standard as Ainge is by some.

Mike
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The problem with the Dirk comparison is that Dirk is a member of the master race.

KO is a Canadian.

I'm really hoping that this is sarcasm.
I'm sure it is. Just a lil jab at Canada.

I'll never understand all of the jokes made at Canada's expense.  Did this start with South Park, or was it before then?
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DKC Draft / Re: DKC League: General Commentary
« Last post by hpantazo on Today at 09:19:24 PM »
Did anybody watch the FIBA final?  DMC was awesome, especially on defense.  He anchored the team.



I think the World Cup went as well as possible for DKC Cleveland.  Kyrie showed leadership, scoring, passing, and aggressive defense, and DMC was a monster on the boards, and played excellent D.

I'll be curious to see how much momentum each carries into the season.

or how much playing in the World Cup wore these guys out for the upcoming season. Still, great showing by Kyrie and DMC, and the US team of young guys
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No, I'm not, and I wouldn't feel so strongly about this had that been the case.  These are the players I wanted at the time, and whether you choose to believe me or not, history has clearly shown that the guys who I wanted have been far better players than the ones selected by Ainge, and it's not even close.  Without further ado, then, by year, here are the guys I wanted at that moment in time (all of these selections were made from the Celtics' original draft positions, btw):

2008: Deandre Jordan (30th).
2009: Wesley Matthews (57th).
2010: Lance Stephenson (19th) and Samardo Samuels (52nd).
2011: Honestly, this one is my worst draft.  Jordan Hamilton (25th) and Scotty Hopson (55th).
2012: Jared Sullinger (21st.  Ainge had to take him there.), Tony Wroten (22nd.  If I remember this one correctly.  At the very least, it was between Wroten, PJ III, and Arnett Moultrie; and no, Wroten would not have fit on our team had Stephenson been here, but, imo, he was the bpa.), and Henry Sims (51st).
2013: Tim Hardaway Jr. (16th).
2014: I actually liked Danny's picks for once, as I wanted Smart and Young, too. It was a toss-up between Smart and Randle, though, and it was tough seeing Phoenix take TJ Warren, but the other guys who I wished we could have gotten were McGary and KJ McDaniels.  Rodney Hood may also come back to haunt us, as well.  Man was that draft loaded lol. 

I'd also like to point out that, probably because I'm a pessimist lol, I don't tend to make player comparisons.  Did I have any idea that Lance Stephenson would be this good?  No, but I loved his talent.

So, how'd I do?

Not nearly as good as you think, even if we accept that these were your picks at the time.  DeAndre Jordan is horribly limited on offense, isn't really that good on defense and can't shoot free throws.  Lance Stephenson is a major head case.  And I don't exactly think Hardway Jr. has proven anything yet.

Mike
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