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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: rondofan1255 on July 21, 2018, 12:01:45 PM
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The Boston Celtics have waived swingman Abdel Nader, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1020699510388019202?s=21
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what does this mean for the celtics salary cap?
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
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Wasn't his contract non guaranteed until August 1st
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NOOOOOOO!
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
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Now let's sign Bird and call it a summer...unless AD or Big Kat become available.
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Good riddance to a guy who did not like to play D!
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
Eh. We’re talking about $60k over 7 years. The extra cost is very minimal.
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Now let's sign Bird and call it a summer...unless AD or Big Kat become available.
I’d rather keep the spot open and sign Bird to a 2-way.
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
Eh. We’re talking about $60k over 7 years. The extra cost is very minimal.
Depends what the tax rate is at the time. Not my money, but it saves roughly $575 in taxes this year which will almost certainly be exceeded in future payments. If the Celtics aren’t going to get below the tax this year, it’s better not to stretch.
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
They may not stretch Nader since they're still over the lux tax threshold.
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Seemed like a good guy, just not that good of a basketball player. I could see him having success overseas, where he learns how to play without the ball, and then returning to the NBA.
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
They may not stretch Nader since they're still over the lux tax threshold.
Sure, but tax status isn't calculated until the end of the season. It won't be very difficult for Boston to get under the tax of they want to. Trading Yabu to a team with cap space pretty much gets them there (although Boston would be better served to do so sooner than later, as every day that passes once the seasons starts counts as salary paid towards the tax calculation).
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
They may not stretch Nader since they're still over the lux tax threshold.
Sure, but tax status isn't calculated until the end of the season. It won't be very difficult for Boston to get under the tax of they want to. Trading Yabu to a team with cap space pretty much gets them there (although Boston would be better served to do so sooner than later, as every day that passes once the seasons starts counts as salary paid towards the tax calculation).
This is incorrect.
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
Eh. We’re talking about $60k over 7 years. The extra cost is very minimal.
Depends what the tax rate is at the time. Not my money, but it saves roughly $575 in taxes this year which will almost certainly be exceeded in future payments. If the Celtics aren’t going to get below the tax this year, it’s better not to stretch.
In future payments collectively, yes, but probably not in any individual tax year. And we won’t be in the repeater tax for what, four seasons?
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
Yeah, but if they stretch it out 7 years that's only $65,000 or so they would add on to future tax bills. That $65k will be peanuts compared to what the rest of their tax bills will be like
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Will probably stretch out the $450k owed him so could save about a million or so.
Save this year but pay it back and more at higher tax rates in the future.
Eh. We’re talking about $60k over 7 years. The extra cost is very minimal.
Depends what the tax rate is at the time. Not my money, but it saves roughly $575 in taxes this year which will almost certainly be exceeded in future payments. If the Celtics aren’t going to get below the tax this year, it’s better not to stretch.
In future payments collectively, yes, but probably not in any individual tax year. And we won’t be in the repeater tax for what, four seasons?
My hope is that he was waived early because the Celtics have reason to believe a team would claim him. He would cost the Raptors about $500k less in luxury taxes if they claimed him on waivers than any free agent they could sign to the minimum, for instance.
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Capture Bird !
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Thank God, he sucked!
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The Abdel Nader era is over...
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Seemed like a good guy, just not that good of a basketball player. I could see him having success overseas, where he learns how to play without the ball, and then returning to the NBA.
He had some good tools and nice size for a wing, just never developed a consistent jumpshot that he could play off of. As a result, his hoop drives were predictable and easy to block.
Good luck Abdel.
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Win some, lose some..with Nader, ainge lost
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Give him credit...The C's made him a millionaire. At least he was better than Mark Blount.
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Late second round pick who made Boston Celtics NBA Roster. Will find another good job, probably overseas, playing professional basketball.
For those of you who say “he sucked, good riddance”, ask yourself if you wouldn’t have traded places with him. To be able to say one day, to your kids, your grand kids, “I once played for the Boston Celtics.”
I for one congratulate him for what he has already achieved, and hopes he gets another opportunity to play again down the road.
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Now let's sign Bird and call it a summer...unless AD or Big Kat become available.
I’d rather keep the spot open and sign Bird to a 2-way.
I'd rather lock him up with a Nader type deal, trade Yabu for 2nd round picks, and still have the open spot.
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Now let's sign Bird and call it a summer...unless AD or Big Kat become available.
I’d rather keep the spot open and sign Bird to a 2-way.
I'd rather lock him up with a Nader type deal, trade Yabu for 2nd round picks, and still have the open spot.
I’d rather use any open roster spots on guys who are NBA rotation players.
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Can we just merge all the current threads into the one below? It would be the complete Nader experience with some funny takes along the way...
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=86396.150
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Give him credit...The C's made him a millionaire. At least he was better than Mark Blount.
Sadly, he was not better than Blount.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/blounma01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/naderab01.html
Seemed like a good guy, just not that good of a basketball player. I could see him having success overseas, where he learns how to play without the ball, and then returning to the NBA.
Does not have the foot speed to play NBA defense.
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I feel bad for guys who try but don't make it. That said, I don't think he deserved a roster spot, and hopefully the Cs find someone who does.
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Win some, lose some..with Nader, ainge lost
Nader was a late 2nd rounder. I am not sure you can lose when a late 2nd rounder doesn't work out. Its the most probable outcome by a wide margin.
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Abdel was a longshot from the start for sure. He played well in Maine and got his shot. I don't really understand the hate and negativity.
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I think, in general, the board was pretty hard on the guy. A late second rounder trying to develope on a team contending for a title is a tough ask. Every mistake criticized unmercifully, when the same mistakes by rotation players are forgiven or rationalized. Every minute of almost every game we played was crucial, so mistakes just were difficult to tolerate. On the Nets, or Kings, or other bad team I think he would've been given leeway to develope and improve, and become a useful player.
So thanks Abdel for the effort. Hope you can get picked up by another NBA team and be given another chance. You've got some good skills that can be developed by a team that can use a bit more patience!
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I don't really understand the hate and negativity.
Probably has to do with the way he was being overrated on this board. One poster was comparing him to IT while asking if he could be better than Brown. I don't think there would've been any pushback if some posters didn't overhype his G-League performances.
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ohhh why? he was so good.
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I don't really understand the hate and negativity.
Probably has to do with the way he was being overrated on this board. One poster was comparing him to IT while asking if he could be better than Brown. I don't think there would've been any pushback if some posters didn't overhype his G-League performances.
Really, due to a single poster? I think you’re projecting your annoyance at a forum contributor onto Nader.
Nader wasn’t good enough, but we didn’t lose anything because of him. He was the 14th/15th man all season, and as pick 58 in a draft, what should anyone have expected? And he did have a good G-League season, winning it’s ROY award. If you watched his G-League performances, there was legitimately stuff to like. (There was also his defense as a glaring flaw that I pointed out to said Nader champion, but oh well.)
It’s fine to let fans here root for underdogs as well. It’s fun — people liked rooting for Phil Pressey, they liked rooting for Nader, some like rooting for Jabari Bird. There’s no reason to hate on a player or the posters who see the best in him — you can ignore it and move on. Impartial analysis told us he probably wouldn’t make it, and that should be enough to just let it go.
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Good. Couldn't stand watching him play. Always made me tense up inside with his absolute lack of BBIQ