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Title: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: KG Living Legend on July 19, 2018, 12:58:21 AM

 With Smart back this roster is ready for war. We need to get home court advantage against Golden State maybe we can have an advantage in game 7.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: JSD on July 19, 2018, 12:59:52 AM
65+
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: GreenEnvy on July 19, 2018, 01:12:10 AM
65+

I too think if healthy they surpass 65.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: KGs Knee on July 19, 2018, 02:10:49 AM
Yes

I don't have an exact prediction yet, but I'd guess somewhere between 62-66 wins.  This team is stacked.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: gouki88 on July 19, 2018, 02:14:02 AM
If healthy, mid 60's I think. This team is crazy good
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: blink on July 19, 2018, 02:25:02 AM
if Gordon, KI and Theis are healthy pretty much from the get go, then 60+ is possible.
But I don't think it is a sure thing.  If Smart is resigned, and Morris isn't traded then I think the odds start to get pretty good we can hit 60.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Eddie20 on July 19, 2018, 08:05:30 AM
Lowe said that he has them at 62, 63 on his pod and wrote this yesterday

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The Celtics could be 60-plus-wins special next season.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Big333223 on July 19, 2018, 08:07:00 AM
I'm guessing 62.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: droopdog7 on July 19, 2018, 09:44:14 AM
Why must people hedge their bets on all these polls?  A simple yes or now would suffice.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: jpotter33 on July 19, 2018, 09:49:04 AM
If we stay relatively healthy, definitely. I think we can even hit the 65 game mark.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Somebody on July 19, 2018, 09:52:31 AM
70+ wins please.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: GreenShooter on July 19, 2018, 09:54:57 AM
In the Sacramento thread someone posted the projected win totals for all the teams. I saw that Toronto was second to Golden State with a projected win total of 61+ and the C's at 56 or so. No way the C's win less than 60 games if everyone stays healthy, even if they rest and/or play their starters less minutes than usual.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Birdman on July 19, 2018, 10:02:31 AM
All depends if Irving & Hayward are healthy..plus rest up players in march for playoffs
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: erisred on July 19, 2018, 06:12:28 PM
Yes, even if Hayward or Irvin aren't completely healthy. I expect them both to play  healthy all year, and somewhere close to 70 wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Celtics4ever on July 19, 2018, 06:15:28 PM
Yes, of course
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: footey on July 19, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
65+

this
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Donoghus on July 19, 2018, 06:33:07 PM
Yeah, I think so.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: GreenEnvy on July 19, 2018, 06:34:28 PM
In the Sacramento thread someone posted the projected win totals for all the teams. I saw that Toronto was second to Golden State with a projected win total of 61+ and the C's at 56 or so. No way the C's win less than 60 games if everyone stays healthy, even if they rest and/or play their starters less minutes than usual.

We were decimated with injuries this past season. Hayward from the get. Morris was hobbled early. Kyrie and Theis season ending knee surgeries. Marcus two separate hand injuries.

And we still won 55 and came within a game of the Finals.

Assuming we ease Gordon and Kyrie back (not playing both of a b2b), I think the growth of Tatum, Brown, and even Rozier will be significant.

Once we are firing on all cyclinders, watch out. If we stay healthy we could make a run at the 68-win franchise record. I think we are that good and that balanced. We have scorers. We have defenders. We can go big or small. We are deep. We are well-coached. I really don’t see a weakness.

Looking forward to seeing our schedule in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Sophomore on July 19, 2018, 06:39:49 PM
Seriously - would someone voting no explain your reasons??? How do you get there?
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Emmette Bryant on July 19, 2018, 06:40:39 PM
yes I think so what do I know it's just my opinion
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: greece66 on July 19, 2018, 06:41:07 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: saltlover on July 19, 2018, 06:44:02 PM
Seriously - would someone voting no explain your reasons??? How do you get there?

It’s difficult to win 60 games in a season.  Only 1-2 teams a year typically do it.  So while 60 feels within reach, it also seems like something that the team could easily fall short of.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 19, 2018, 07:14:28 PM
More importantly, how many games can we take from GS?
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: GreenShooter on July 20, 2018, 06:44:53 AM
In the Sacramento thread someone posted the projected win totals for all the teams. I saw that Toronto was second to Golden State with a projected win total of 61+ and the C's at 56 or so. No way the C's win less than 60 games if everyone stays healthy, even if they rest and/or play their starters less minutes than usual.

We were decimated with injuries this past season. Hayward from the get. Morris was hobbled early. Kyrie and Theis season ending knee surgeries. Marcus two separate hand injuries.

And we still won 55 and came within a game of the Finals.

Assuming we ease Gordon and Kyrie back (not playing both of a b2b), I think the growth of Tatum, Brown, and even Rozier will be significant.

Once we are firing on all cyclinders, watch out. If we stay healthy we could make a run at the 68-win franchise record. I think we are that good and that balanced. We have scorers. We have defenders. We can go big or small. We are deep. We are well-coached. I really don’t see a weakness.

Looking forward to seeing our schedule in a few weeks.
The only weakness we have, and it's not really a weakness but a luxury, is that we don't have a 6th man of the year candidate (Marcus ain't really it). We could use a drop-dead shooter/scorer off the bench. A Lou Williams "type" or even a Kyle Korver. But yeah, I don't see much in where we won't win more than "56" games. Toronto has been our kryptonyte recently so I want to see how the C's fare against them this as well as the renewed rivalry with Philly.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: A Future of Stevens on July 20, 2018, 06:49:25 AM
74.

Jk. Assuming health (with smart playing time) mark me down for 64 wins.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Surferdad on July 20, 2018, 07:11:11 AM
In the Sacramento thread someone posted the projected win totals for all the teams. I saw that Toronto was second to Golden State with a projected win total of 61+ and the C's at 56 or so. No way the C's win less than 60 games if everyone stays healthy, even if they rest and/or play their starters less minutes than usual.

We were decimated with injuries this past season. Hayward from the get. Morris was hobbled early. Kyrie and Theis season ending knee surgeries. Marcus two separate hand injuries.

And we still won 55 and came within a game of the Finals.

Assuming we ease Gordon and Kyrie back (not playing both of a b2b), I think the growth of Tatum, Brown, and even Rozier will be significant.

Once we are firing on all cyclinders, watch out. If we stay healthy we could make a run at the 68-win franchise record. I think we are that good and that balanced. We have scorers. We have defenders. We can go big or small. We are deep. We are well-coached. I really don’t see a weakness.

Looking forward to seeing our schedule in a few weeks.
The only weakness we have, and it's not really a weakness but a luxury, is that we don't have a 6th man of the year candidate (Marcus ain't really it). We could use a drop-dead shooter/scorer off the bench. A Lou Williams "type" or even a Kyle Korver. But yeah, I don't see much in where we won't win more than "56" games. Toronto has been our kryptonyte recently so I want to see how the C's fare against them this as well as the renewed rivalry with Philly.
That's Terry Rozier, no?

As far as weakness, I think the frontcourt could use another guy.  RW3 is not going to contribute that much this season and I'm hoping Daniel Theis shows better consistency.  In other words, they need a decent replacement for Greg Monroe who can play defense and hit a few shots.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Green-18 on July 20, 2018, 07:12:39 AM
In the Sacramento thread someone posted the projected win totals for all the teams. I saw that Toronto was second to Golden State with a projected win total of 61+ and the C's at 56 or so. No way the C's win less than 60 games if everyone stays healthy, even if they rest and/or play their starters less minutes than usual.

We were decimated with injuries this past season. Hayward from the get. Morris was hobbled early. Kyrie and Theis season ending knee surgeries. Marcus two separate hand injuries.

And we still won 55 and came within a game of the Finals.

Assuming we ease Gordon and Kyrie back (not playing both of a b2b), I think the growth of Tatum, Brown, and even Rozier will be significant.

Once we are firing on all cyclinders, watch out. If we stay healthy we could make a run at the 68-win franchise record. I think we are that good and that balanced. We have scorers. We have defenders. We can go big or small. We are deep. We are well-coached. I really don’t see a weakness.

Looking forward to seeing our schedule in a few weeks.
The only weakness we have, and it's not really a weakness but a luxury, is that we don't have a 6th man of the year candidate (Marcus ain't really it). We could use a drop-dead shooter/scorer off the bench. A Lou Williams "type" or even a Kyle Korver. But yeah, I don't see much in where we won't win more than "56" games. Toronto has been our kryptonyte recently so I want to see how the C's fare against them this as well as the renewed rivalry with Philly.

I have a feeling that Stevens will try to utilize Hayward as our 2nd unit scorer during the early parts of the season.  I can see Hayward going to the bench somewhere around the 5:00-6:00 minute mark in the first quarter with Smart replacing him.  Horford probably follows too with Baynes coming in.  Morris can then come in for Jaylen and/or Tatum.  I like the idea of keeping Kyrie + Tatum/Jaylen on the court for the majority of the first quarter. 

I see our early second quarter lineup as follows:

Rozier
Smart
Hayward
Morris
Horford 

This is how I envision our lineup in an ideal situation.  Kyrie should play most of the 1st and rest for half of the 2nd quarter.  Jaylen or Tatum can come right back in for Smart at the 9:00-10:00 minute mark of the 2nd.

We don't need a lights out 6th man if Brad finds the right lineup combinations.
 
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: footey on July 20, 2018, 07:28:54 AM
More importantly, how many games can we take from GS?

6. The Max.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: cman88 on July 21, 2018, 12:22:16 PM
In the Sacramento thread someone posted the projected win totals for all the teams. I saw that Toronto was second to Golden State with a projected win total of 61+ and the C's at 56 or so. No way the C's win less than 60 games if everyone stays healthy, even if they rest and/or play their starters less minutes than usual.

We were decimated with injuries this past season. Hayward from the get. Morris was hobbled early. Kyrie and Theis season ending knee surgeries. Marcus two separate hand injuries.

And we still won 55 and came within a game of the Finals.

Assuming we ease Gordon and Kyrie back (not playing both of a b2b), I think the growth of Tatum, Brown, and even Rozier will be significant.

Once we are firing on all cyclinders, watch out. If we stay healthy we could make a run at the 68-win franchise record. I think we are that good and that balanced. We have scorers. We have defenders. We can go big or small. We are deep. We are well-coached. I really don’t see a weakness.

Looking forward to seeing our schedule in a few weeks.
The only weakness we have, and it's not really a weakness but a luxury, is that we don't have a 6th man of the year candidate (Marcus ain't really it). We could use a drop-dead shooter/scorer off the bench. A Lou Williams "type" or even a Kyle Korver. But yeah, I don't see much in where we won't win more than "56" games. Toronto has been our kryptonyte recently so I want to see how the C's fare against them this as well as the renewed rivalry with Philly.

I have a feeling that Stevens will try to utilize Hayward as our 2nd unit scorer during the early parts of the season.  I can see Hayward going to the bench somewhere around the 5:00-6:00 minute mark in the first quarter with Smart replacing him.  Horford probably follows too with Baynes coming in.  Morris can then come in for Jaylen and/or Tatum.  I like the idea of keeping Kyrie + Tatum/Jaylen on the court for the majority of the first quarter. 

I see our early second quarter lineup as follows:

Rozier
Smart
Hayward
Morris
Horford 

This is how I envision our lineup in an ideal situation.  Kyrie should play most of the 1st and rest for half of the 2nd quarter.  Jaylen or Tatum can come right back in for Smart at the 9:00-10:00 minute mark of the 2nd.

We don't need a lights out 6th man if Brad finds the right lineup combinations.

I think this too. You saw in the playoffs or in the regular season Brad would take tatum out early and then put him with the 2nd unit. Now you can do that with so many combinations that you can always have 2 starters on the floor.

No more worrying about scoring.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Celtics4ever on July 21, 2018, 01:15:33 PM
66
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Big333223 on July 21, 2018, 01:41:41 PM
More importantly, how many games can we take from GS?
In a playoff series? 4.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on July 21, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
I believe they could but I'd rather Coach Stevens gives liberal rest to Kyrie, Big Al and especially Hayward.

Go for 55+ wins but keep them fresh for our playoff run....all the way into June.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Sophomore on July 21, 2018, 02:42:30 PM
Seriously - would someone voting no explain your reasons??? How do you get there?

It’s difficult to win 60 games in a season.  Only 1-2 teams a year typically do it.  So while 60 feels within reach, it also seems like something that the team could easily fall short of.
I’m considering our depth a big plus - both because it will often let us put pressure on teams for 48 minutes and should allow us to keep the stars fresh. I put 60 if healthy because I think that is the most likely outcome.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: Celtics4ever on July 21, 2018, 03:07:22 PM
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Go for 55+ wins but keep them fresh for our playoff run....all the way into June.

We are going to win more than 55 resting!  Did no one see the playoffs without those guys and we did well.
Title: Re: Poll: Do the Celtics win 60 games this year
Post by: vjcsmoke on July 23, 2018, 05:03:51 PM
Easily a 60+ win team.  Especially with healthy Kyrie and Hayward.  I also believe Tatum will make a big leap in year 2.  Brown should progress as well.  Celtics new 'lineup of death' will be extremely difficult to guard -- Irving, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Horford.  All 5 can shoot the 3 and space the floor. 

Kyrie is also the best finisher in the game of basketball today.  I believe our offense will take a leap in efficiency.  Expect the C's to score between 105-110 ppg and continue being the #1 defense in the NBA at worst ranking as a top 3 defensive unit.  The stars seem to have lined up, Lebron is out of the East, it is the Celtics time to rise to the top!!  Finals or bust! :)