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Title: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: tazzmaniac on June 25, 2018, 03:40:30 AM
NBEinstein videos assessing Wllliams.  Gets high marks for defense, passing and inside scoring but needs to work on fundamentals.  Jump shooting needs a lot of work as expected. 

Defense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcLjyVxqAFw

Passing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3lkXv3jLjk

Inside Scoring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFXJ2IBsgs

Jump shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNDFL7fXfEc 
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: rollie mass on June 25, 2018, 04:49:08 AM
GREAT STUFF--TP VERY PROFESSIONAL
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: gouki88 on June 25, 2018, 06:37:22 AM
I reckon under Brad and our other coaches helping his defensive positioning and perimeter defence fundamentals he could be an absolute monster, considering how much we switch
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: footey on June 25, 2018, 08:28:48 AM
Tp for this. Excellent.

He gets so high on alley oops. Top of box.

Able to block a lot of jump shooters, covers a lot of real estate. Will be useful closing out vs corner 3’s.

Shooting mechanics atrocious.
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: Surferdad on June 25, 2018, 09:09:11 AM
Glad to see passing is a strong suit for him. That fits Brad's system and I hope Horford can mentor him in that area.  The shot is not really a priority right now, IMO.
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: Beat LA on June 25, 2018, 09:57:58 PM
TP for the thread and the videos. At first, I honestly thought that there had been some kind of typo in terms of the title, haha, but what a great channel :).
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: tazzmaniac on June 25, 2018, 10:23:08 PM
Glad to see passing is a strong suit for him. That fits Brad's system and I hope Horford can mentor him in that area.  The shot is not really a priority right now, IMO.
I agree the shot can wait.  If they can take his raw strengths and improve his fundamentals, I think he can make a positive contribution next season.  I think his coaching so far hasn't been top notch and I don't think it will take too long to see significant improvement. 
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: JHTruth on June 25, 2018, 11:20:30 PM
Tp for this. Excellent.

He gets so high on alley oops. Top of box.

Able to block a lot of jump shooters, covers a lot of real estate. Will be useful closing out vs corner 3’s.

Shooting mechanics atrocious.

His predraft workouts show he has worked on his stroke quite a bit. We'll see if he can convert that to NBA success. He flashed a jumper in college so I wouldnt say he's totally hopeless there..
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: hpantazo on June 25, 2018, 11:25:48 PM
Tp for this. Excellent.

He gets so high on alley oops. Top of box.

Able to block a lot of jump shooters, covers a lot of real estate. Will be useful closing out vs corner 3’s.

Shooting mechanics atrocious.

His predraft workouts show he has worked on his stroke quite a bit. We'll see if he can convert that to NBA success. He flashed a jumper in college so I wouldnt say he's totally hopeless there..


If the Celtics can turn Baynes into a 3 point shooter, they can do it with Williams too
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: liam on June 25, 2018, 11:34:13 PM
Tp for this. Excellent.

He gets so high on alley oops. Top of box.

Able to block a lot of jump shooters, covers a lot of real estate. Will be useful closing out vs corner 3’s.

Shooting mechanics atrocious.

His predraft workouts show he has worked on his stroke quite a bit. We'll see if he can convert that to NBA success. He flashed a jumper in college so I wouldnt say he's totally hopeless there..


If the Celtics can turn Baynes into a 3 point shooter, they can do it with Williams too

Williams needs to develop a shot with consistent mechanics. His release point seems to change and his feet are always in different positions, toes pointed in different directions etc. A shooting coach could do wonders with this guy and make him at least decent. When he's square up and releases the shot at the right point it doesn't look horrid, just bad...
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: JHTruth on June 26, 2018, 12:48:13 AM
Tp for this. Excellent.

He gets so high on alley oops. Top of box.

Able to block a lot of jump shooters, covers a lot of real estate. Will be useful closing out vs corner 3’s.

Shooting mechanics atrocious.

His predraft workouts show he has worked on his stroke quite a bit. We'll see if he can convert that to NBA success. He flashed a jumper in college so I wouldnt say he's totally hopeless there..


If the Celtics can turn Baynes into a 3 point shooter, they can do it with Williams too

Williams needs to develop a shot with consistent mechanics. His release point seems to change and his feet are always in different positions, toes pointed in different directions etc. A shooting coach could do wonders with this guy and make him at least decent. When he's square up and releases the shot at the right point it doesn't look horrid, just bad...

I get the sense he's a bit undercoached, as if he never has had serious, one-on-one coaching intensively
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: liam on June 26, 2018, 01:27:21 PM
Tp for this. Excellent.

He gets so high on alley oops. Top of box.

Able to block a lot of jump shooters, covers a lot of real estate. Will be useful closing out vs corner 3’s.

Shooting mechanics atrocious.

His predraft workouts show he has worked on his stroke quite a bit. We'll see if he can convert that to NBA success. He flashed a jumper in college so I wouldnt say he's totally hopeless there..


If the Celtics can turn Baynes into a 3 point shooter, they can do it with Williams too

Williams needs to develop a shot with consistent mechanics. His release point seems to change and his feet are always in different positions, toes pointed in different directions etc. A shooting coach could do wonders with this guy and make him at least decent. When he's square up and releases the shot at the right point it doesn't look horrid, just bad...

I get the sense he's a bit undercoached, as if he never has had serious, one-on-one coaching intensively

It does look that way. He looks like he's playing in a YMCA pickup game. He didn't have good structure on either end.
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: rollie mass on June 29, 2018, 03:34:40 PM
Under coached and a very poor team with a useless point guard and a center clogging the middle
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: JBcat on June 29, 2018, 04:10:35 PM
Under coached and a very poor team with a useless point guard and a center clogging the middle

What’s great if he is paired with any of our other bigs on the floor they can all shoot to give him space down low. 
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: Sophomore on June 29, 2018, 04:21:08 PM
Tp for this. Excellent.

He gets so high on alley oops. Top of box.

Able to block a lot of jump shooters, covers a lot of real estate. Will be useful closing out vs corner 3’s.

Shooting mechanics atrocious.

His predraft workouts show he has worked on his stroke quite a bit. We'll see if he can convert that to NBA success. He flashed a jumper in college so I wouldnt say he's totally hopeless there..


If the Celtics can turn Baynes into a 3 point shooter, they can do it with Williams too

Williams needs to develop a shot with consistent mechanics. His release point seems to change and his feet are always in different positions, toes pointed in different directions etc. A shooting coach could do wonders with this guy and make him at least decent. When he's square up and releases the shot at the right point it doesn't look horrid, just bad...

I get the sense he's a bit undercoached, as if he never has had serious, one-on-one coaching intensively

It does look that way. He looks like he's playing in a YMCA pickup game. He didn't have good structure on either end.

Apparently they almost never used him in the pick and roll as a roll man. Like less than 10 times for the whole year. Really looking forward to seeing Kyrie run the pick and roll with Williams as the roll man and our shooters  on the wing. Choose your poison, defense...
Title: Re: Williams NBEinstein Video Breakdowns
Post by: Hoopvortex on June 30, 2018, 11:47:49 AM
Tp for this. Excellent.

He gets so high on alley oops. Top of box.

Able to block a lot of jump shooters, covers a lot of real estate. Will be useful closing out vs corner 3’s.

Shooting mechanics atrocious.

His predraft workouts show he has worked on his stroke quite a bit. We'll see if he can convert that to NBA success. He flashed a jumper in college so I wouldnt say he's totally hopeless there..


If the Celtics can turn Baynes into a 3 point shooter, they can do it with Williams too

Williams needs to develop a shot with consistent mechanics. His release point seems to change and his feet are always in different positions, toes pointed in different directions etc. A shooting coach could do wonders with this guy and make him at least decent. When he's square up and releases the shot at the right point it doesn't look horrid, just bad...

Elbows and knees are all over the place. In particular his right elbow drifts so high that the shoulder isn’t even part of the motion. It’s actually amazing that it looks as smooth as it does – but also not surprising that it is so inaccurate.

He doesn’t square up, basically - he’s turned to his left with his feet sorting themselves out whatever way they can.

Lack of opportunity, or does he resist coaching?

Glad to see passing is a strong suit for him. That fits Brad's system and I hope Horford can mentor him in that area.  The shot is not really a priority right now, IMO.
I agree the shot can wait.  If they can take his raw strengths and improve his fundamentals, I think he can make a positive contribution next season.  I think his coaching so far hasn't been top notch and I don't think it will take too long to see significant improvement.

The free throw shooting cannot wait. As a roll man and offensive rebounder - likely immediate points of emphasis - he’ll be taking trips to the line. He might never be money there, but if he can reliably get a point per possession that way he can get on the floor despite his jump shot, and save himself some hard hits in the process.