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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: footey on June 24, 2018, 08:05:05 AM
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Seems to me our biggest challenge to beating the Warriors is finding someone who can defend KD well. I’ve yet to see someone who can the past couple of seasons as his gave has evolved to a different level.
That was the only reason the Kawhi trade interested me, really.
Jaylen Brown showed promise especially in the Home game last season vs Warriors. But sample size too small.
The incredible length and athleticism of Williams certainly has to be considered a potential weapon for neutralizing KD. Maybe not this season, but at some point.
Rockets put Cappella on him with mixed results.
Curious what others think about this idea?
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I want to see him guard Lebron.
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I want to see him guard anybody before I think he may be KD or LeBron kryptonite. I mean cmon, how many veteran NBA players have success against either of these two and we think he may be somebody's kryptonite? I see a rookie like most that will enter a game and get 3 fouls before he breaks a sweat. Let's give him a little time.
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Give him time.
I love what we have to throw at KD in the PRESENT..
Marcus Smart can guard him in stretches and play physical with him.
Jaylen Brown...even Al Horford in stretches.
It will take TEAM Defense to slow down KD and the Warriors and we have the weapons (when healthy) to do just that.
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KD pretty much can shoot over the top of every player. Will be interested to see him match up against RW. KD will fake him out of his shorts, draw fouls no doubt, until the kid learns the pro game and all the tricks.
I’m very intrigued with his incredible length and athleticism, especially defensively.
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Man, Celtic fan has definitely fallen off the deep end on this one.
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If Williams was projected to be able to guard elite NBA SFs, along with PFs and Cs, he would have been picked in the top half of the lottery. It’s a pretty big ask.
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Baby steps with Robert Williams. He should first learn how to get out of bed on time.
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Maybe we did, in Tatum.
R Dubs is gonna be interesting as a rim protector. Hadn't thought of him as someone to guard in space on the perimeter.
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Man, Celtic fan has definitely fallen off the deep end on this one.
True. ;D
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If Williams was projected to be able to guard elite NBA SFs, along with PFs and Cs, he would have been picked in the top half of the lottery. It’s a pretty big ask.
It is, but he fell because of concerns about his attitude and work ethic, not talent.
I'm most concerned about getting this kid to grow up and realize his potential.
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Maybe we did, in Tatum.
R Dubs is gonna be interesting as a rim protector. Hadn't thought of him as someone to guard in space on the perimeter.
Other than catching lobs, and altering shots at the rim, I'd say his best skill as a prospect is his ability to move his feet and stay in the air space of shooters on the perimeter. The only big in this class who is better right now at that skill was JJJ.
I'm not saying we stick him on KD by any means. But in the modern switch defense era, he shouldn't be viewed as a liability like most big men with his length. With patience I think he could develop into a very good overall defender.
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Maybe we did, in Tatum.
R Dubs is gonna be interesting as a rim protector. Hadn't thought of him as someone to guard in space on the perimeter.
while i am certainly not an expert on robwill's perimeter defense, scouts raved about it. and in the one game i watched along with some videos - yes, he can guard even point guards. his feet are that quick.
i like him as the 27th pick. great the celtics got him. but it may take him a year or two to really get up to speed with the nba. but we shall see soon enough.
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Ease of the green cool aid Cs fans.
This guy needs to remember to wake up first to actually make the game.
He wont be able to guard KD from Portland, Maine....
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I'm quite bullish on Williams but talking about him as KD kryptonite is one of the silliest posts I've seen on here and that is a pretty high bar.
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Obviously not. The kid is already looking like a bust. Literally the only draft pick I've ever heard of who overslept his introductory press conference.
Sometimes you slide in the draft for the right reasons.
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Might as well suggest we drafted the next Shaquill O’ Neal while you are at it.
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Obviously not. The kid is already looking like a bust. Literally the only draft pick I've ever heard of who overslept his introductory press conference.
Sometimes you slide in the draft for the right reasons.
I guess a silly post on the other side helps keeps things balanced. Oversleeping a conference call says nothing about his success on the court.
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Obviously not. The kid is already looking like a bust. Literally the only draft pick I've ever heard of who overslept his introductory press conference.
Sometimes you slide in the draft for the right reasons.
I guess a silly post on the other side helps keeps things balanced. Oversleeping a conference call says nothing about his success on the court.
I think it does. He fell to 27 because of character concerns and the first thing he did as a Celtic was oversleep. It reinforces negative opinions of his character.
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Obviously not. The kid is already looking like a bust. Literally the only draft pick I've ever heard of who overslept his introductory press conference.
Sometimes you slide in the draft for the right reasons.
I guess a silly post on the other side helps keeps things balanced. Oversleeping a conference call says nothing about his success on the court.
But it does say something about the players personality.
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Nah. That's Nasir Little. :angel:
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Obviously not. The kid is already looking like a bust. Literally the only draft pick I've ever heard of who overslept his introductory press conference.
Sometimes you slide in the draft for the right reasons.
I guess a silly post on the other side helps keeps things balanced. Oversleeping a conference call says nothing about his success on the court.
I think it does. He fell to 27 because of character concerns and the first thing he did as a Celtic was oversleep. It reinforces negative opinions of his character.
Mostly regurgitated opinions from people who have had little to no interaction with Williams. I find it best to form my own opinions. I started keeping up with Williams at the beginning of his freshman season.
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Obviously not. The kid is already looking like a bust. Literally the only draft pick I've ever heard of who overslept his introductory press conference.
Sometimes you slide in the draft for the right reasons.
I guess a silly post on the other side helps keeps things balanced. Oversleeping a conference call says nothing about his success on the court.
But it does say something about the players personality.
Too a small degree I think it does. Williams is more laidback, friendly and a bit goofy. Definitely not an intense personality like KG. He certainly wasn't obsessing about the conference call. I think he is pretty loyal and not very self centered. Overall, I'd say he's more of a follower than a leader at least at this point.
Very good interview between his freshman and sophomore season. I think it shows a lot of his personality and character. Some of you may want to stop it short since he says "trust the process" a couple times at the end. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-XOqZELbM
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Might as well suggest we drafted the next Shaquill O’ Neal while you are at it.
I think William's physique and athleticism suggests more the next Shawn Kemp. :)
https://youtu.be/HQeMhYJe5JA
Do you know how HYPED I would be if RW turns out anything close to Shawn Kemp?!
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kempsh01.html
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Might as well suggest we drafted the next Shaquill O’ Neal while you are at it.
I think William's physique and athleticism suggests more the next Shawn Kemp. :)
https://youtu.be/HQeMhYJe5JA
Do you know how HYPED I would be if RW turns out anything close to Shawn Kemp?!
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kempsh01.html
i will assume your hope arises from his potential basketball prowess and not the prowess in producing progeny. ;D
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Maybe we did, in Tatum.
R Dubs is gonna be interesting as a rim protector. Hadn't thought of him as someone to guard in space on the perimeter.
Other than catching lobs, and altering shots at the rim, I'd say his best skill as a prospect is his ability to move his feet and stay in the air space of shooters on the perimeter. The only big in this class who is better right now at that skill was JJJ.
I'm not saying we stick him on KD by any means. But in the modern switch defense era, he shouldn't be viewed as a liability like most big men with his length. With patience I think he could develop into a very good overall defender.
What? One of his biggest strength is switching on defense, he is a potential elite perimeter and PNR defender, if he has his head right and work on his game his upside is through the roof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcLjyVxqAFw&t=747s
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no we did not....NEXT!!!
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Seems to me our biggest challenge to beating the Warriors is finding someone who can defend KD well. I’ve yet to see someone who can the past couple of seasons as his gave has evolved to a different level.
That was the only reason the Kawhi trade interested me, really.
Jaylen Brown showed promise especially in the Home game last season vs Warriors. But sample size too small.
The incredible length and athleticism of Williams certainly has to be considered a potential weapon for neutralizing KD. Maybe not this season, but at some point.
Rockets put Cappella on him with mixed results.
Curious what others think about this idea?
I would say you're kind of setting unrealistic expectations on a guy we just drafted.
I've heard Ben Wallace, and Bill Russell comparisons, and all I can think of is like, "whoa... Easy there tiger.... Slow it down... SLOW IT DOWN! I JUST DISSED YOU!!!!!!!"
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Can't wait summer league so people will shut up about the stupid conference call ;D
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Maybe we did, in Tatum.
R Dubs is gonna be interesting as a rim protector. Hadn't thought of him as someone to guard in space on the perimeter.
Other than catching lobs, and altering shots at the rim, I'd say his best skill as a prospect is his ability to move his feet and stay in the air space of shooters on the perimeter. The only big in this class who is better right now at that skill was JJJ.
I'm not saying we stick him on KD by any means. But in the modern switch defense era, he shouldn't be viewed as a liability like most big men with his length. With patience I think he could develop into a very good overall defender.
What? One of his biggest strength is switching on defense, he is a potential elite perimeter and PNR defender, if he has his head right and work on his game his upside is through the roof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcLjyVxqAFw&t=747s
Yeah. I said he SHOULDN'T be viewed as such. Reread the post bud :)
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Seems to me our biggest challenge to beating the Warriors is finding someone who can defend KD well. I’ve yet to see someone who can the past couple of seasons as his gave has evolved to a different level.
That was the only reason the Kawhi trade interested me, really.
Jaylen Brown showed promise especially in the Home game last season vs Warriors. But sample size too small.
The incredible length and athleticism of Williams certainly has to be considered a potential weapon for neutralizing KD. Maybe not this season, but at some point.
Rockets put Cappella on him with mixed results.
Curious what others think about this idea?
But who was Dewayne Dedmon?
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I get what you are saying as he has the tools physically. The speed the reach and the hops. The tools are there. But having his head in the game enough to take advantage of these tools is a big question mark.
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Kryptonite for a retired Keyon Dooling. Absolutely!
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I get what you are saying as he has the tools physically. The speed the reach and the hops. The tools are there. But having his head in the game enough to take advantage of these tools is a big question mark.
this is why i am looking forward to watching him in summer league, camp, and the regular season. my main hope is to see him develop as a nba player this year. if he can actually contribute to wins, then fantastic, but a bonus to me.
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Baby steps with Robert Williams. He should first learn how to get out of bed on time.
I'm high on Williams, but that was funny and perhaps, sadly, true.
TP.
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Baby steps with Robert Williams. He should first learn how to get out of bed on time.
I'm high on Williams, but that was funny and perhaps, sadly, true.
TP.
Lol ;D.