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Title: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: j804 on June 21, 2018, 04:12:51 PM
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Here's how the Top 6 of tonight's NBA Draft is taking shape: 1. Suns: Deandre Ayton. 2. Kings: Marvin Bagley Jr.; 3. Hawks: Luka Doncic; 4. Jaren Jackson, Jr.; 5. Mavericks: Mo Bamba; 6. Magic: Trae Young.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1009887011401031680

There were reports the Mavs feel confident they can get Demarcus in free agency. Do y'all think Danny throws the sink at them for him? Anybody scared of him giving in with a Winslow type offer if he's their guy and throws in Jaylen?
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: PhoSita on June 21, 2018, 04:16:10 PM
What a coup for the Hawks if they get Luka with the 3rd pick.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: celticinorlando on June 21, 2018, 04:18:34 PM
I find it interesting he list each team next to the pick except the 4th pick...I wonder if he is hearing that a trade is coming
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: green_bballers13 on June 21, 2018, 04:20:24 PM
No way. Mo Bamba is getting crazy hype right now. I believe that he will be overvalued by NBA teams pining for a talented big man. I'm ok sitting on sidelines while other GMs outbid each other for a young guy with great measurables and a questionable handle of the NBA game. He's raw.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: Monkhouse on June 21, 2018, 04:21:06 PM
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Here's how the Top 6 of tonight's NBA Draft is taking shape: 1. Suns: Deandre Ayton. 2. Kings: Marvin Bagley Jr.; 3. Hawks: Luka Doncic; 4. Jaren Jackson, Jr.; 5. Mavericks: Mo Bamba; 6. Magic: Trae Young.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1009887011401031680

There were reports the Mavs feel confident they can get Demarcus in free agency. Do y'all think Danny throws the sink at them for him? Anybody scared of him giving in with a Winslow type offer if he's their guy and throws in Jaylen?

Jaylen for Mamba?

Yeah no thanks.

I'm always wary on players who are lanky, but not super skilled defensive big men. Big men like those usually fall later in the lottery, not in the top 5.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: celticinorlando on June 21, 2018, 04:22:17 PM
I would offer Rozier, Morris, #27 this year and the Kings pick next year to move up.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: j804 on June 21, 2018, 04:27:03 PM
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Here's how the Top 6 of tonight's NBA Draft is taking shape: 1. Suns: Deandre Ayton. 2. Kings: Marvin Bagley Jr.; 3. Hawks: Luka Doncic; 4. Jaren Jackson, Jr.; 5. Mavericks: Mo Bamba; 6. Magic: Trae Young.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1009887011401031680

There were reports the Mavs feel confident they can get Demarcus in free agency. Do y'all think Danny throws the sink at them for him? Anybody scared of him giving in with a Winslow type offer if he's their guy and throws in Jaylen?

Jaylen for Mamba?

Yeah no thanks.

I'm always wary on players who are lanky, but not super skilled defensive big men. Big men like those usually fall later in the lottery, not in the top 5.
im not saying I'd do it but we saw with Winslow what he offered. Celts seem real high on him
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: Birdman on June 21, 2018, 04:28:42 PM
I would offer Rozier, Morris, #27 this year and the Kings pick next year to move up.
Lot to give up i think...that Sac pick may be a top 3 pick next season
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: Sideshow Mel on June 21, 2018, 04:32:05 PM
I'd love to move up and grab Bamba if it could be done without surrendering Brown, though I don't think it will happen. But, I'm struck by the idea of Young to the magic so high. That just feels like a huge reach for a franchise that really can't afford to miss at that spot.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: Monkhouse on June 21, 2018, 04:33:52 PM
Ainge's end game was to get someone like Winslow who could eventually become Jaylen Brown.

You don't trade Brown for Bamba, no matter how well his measurements/vertical/standing reach is.

You trade for Bamba to put him next to Brown, Tatum, and Kyrie/Hayward/Horford.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: ETNCeltics on June 21, 2018, 04:38:54 PM
Giving up Brown for the 5th pick in the draft would be beyond ridiculous. You draft a guy 3rd, he turns out to be a better player than you could have hoped, and you then trade him for a lower draft pick. What sort of clown would make that trade?
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: celticinorlando on June 21, 2018, 04:40:38 PM
The ONLY player I even consider trading Brown for is Leonard. That is it.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: Rakulp on June 21, 2018, 04:44:41 PM
Imagine if we did trade Brown for Leonard...and still somehow moved up in the draft and got our replacement for Al too...

...combined with the return of Irving, Hayward and Theis.

...add in Dwight Howard just because he takes a look at this roster and decides he HAS to be part of history!

Who stops this team then?
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: kozlodoev on June 21, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
I find it interesting he list each team next to the pick except the 4th pick...I wonder if he is hearing that a trade is coming
Isn't it common knowledge that the pick is being shopped around?
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on June 21, 2018, 04:48:30 PM
Giving up Brown for the 5th pick in the draft would be beyond ridiculous. You draft a guy 3rd, he turns out to be a better player than you could have hoped, and you then trade him for a lower draft pick. What sort of clown would make that trade?

Not Danny.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: Hawkeye199 on June 21, 2018, 05:01:34 PM
I find it interesting he list each team next to the pick except the 4th pick...I wonder if he is hearing that a trade is coming


I think that this is where the Celtics may trade in if at all. Personally I prefer Jackson to Bamba
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: Phantom255x on June 21, 2018, 05:03:12 PM
There is NO WAY Ainge is trading Tatum or Brown tonight, period.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: liam on June 21, 2018, 05:05:16 PM
Giving up Brown for the 5th pick in the draft would be beyond ridiculous. You draft a guy 3rd, he turns out to be a better player than you could have hoped, and you then trade him for a lower draft pick. What sort of clown would make that trade?

Chris Wallace?
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: footey on June 21, 2018, 05:14:03 PM
Wendell Carter probably a better fit in our system, and the modern NBA in general, than Bamba. Maybe if WC will slide to a point where a package of Rozier and picks (but not SAC pick) can get him?

Honestly don't understand all the love for Bamba.  He'll be sitting in the 4th quarter his entire career.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: blink on June 21, 2018, 05:26:30 PM
There is NO WAY Ainge is trading Tatum or Brown tonight, period.

oh man I hope that is the case.  Danny would trade his mom if he thought it was the right move though.  I really think Jaylen and Jason should be with us for the long haul. 
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: green_bballers13 on June 21, 2018, 06:01:17 PM
I do like Bamba. I think it's smart that he's trying to showcase his perimeter game.

I'm not sure that the Bamba experiment is worth the investment to trade up. DAL is going to ask a lot for a top 5 pick.

I'm a little more interested in Bol Bol next year. If the Kings pick hits, they might end up getting a player with some outside skills that could be 7'5-7'6. This would cost less than trading up to get Bamba, a player I'm less interested in.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: byennie on June 21, 2018, 06:12:09 PM
What would be better for this Cs team, finding a Rudy Gobert, or another talented guard/wing? Maybe a Porter or Young will pan out, but how much better does it make us?

Bamba would be a coup for the Celtics because of fit and defensive potential. It's what Houston succeeded at this year, but with superior players and even more length. Teams are trying to find a defensive answer to pace-and-space, and look at these wingspans for Bamba, Horford, Brown, Tatum: 7'10" / 7'1" / 7'0" / 6'11". For reference, some important chart toppers are:

Rudy Gobert: 7'9"
Kevin Durant: 7'5"
Draymond Green: 7'1"

Baynes was an excellent defender for us, but the one thing he can't do is protect the wing & the perimeter at once. The crazy thing about Gobert-like length is that a defender can stay home and still be 1 step from contesting outside shots.

Defensively, Smart/ Brown/ Tatum/ Horford/ Bamba is a lineup of death.
Offensively, Irving/ Hayward/ Brown/ Tatum/ Horford is pretty great, too.

Mix and match between the two and that's a crazy good top-7, and yet another cost controlled player.

If we get Bamba w/o giving up Brown or Tatum, I'm all in. Sure, there's a risk, but there's a very unique reward.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: byennie on June 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
I do like Bamba. I think it's smart that he's trying to showcase his perimeter game.

I'm not sure that the Bamba experiment is worth the investment to trade up. DAL is going to ask a lot for a top 5 pick.

I'm a little more interested in Bol Bol next year. If the Kings pick hits, they might end up getting a player with some outside skills that could be 7'5-7'6. This would cost less than trading up to get Bamba, a player I'm less interested in.

Respectfully disagree. Bamba has already played a year at the college level and has the better NBA body. Bigger wingspan, more mature, can rebound, and guys taller than 7'1" or so have a very spotty injury history. The last thing we want is to draft Shawn Bradley.

Cost matters of course and I'm fine with standing pat, but I wouldn't even be thinking about Bol Bol, who I doubt plays any useful NBA basketball for another 3+ years.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: JHTruth on June 21, 2018, 06:21:33 PM
Consensus moving towards standing pat in the First but maybe grabbing a second rounder..



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Sounds like the Boston Celtics are staying put in the first round, but trying to get in to the second round (where Boston's pick went to the Thunder). The Celtics could buy a pick or move a future pick.

3:08 PM - 21 Jun 2018
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: green_bballers13 on June 21, 2018, 06:25:11 PM
I do like Bamba. I think it's smart that he's trying to showcase his perimeter game.

I'm not sure that the Bamba experiment is worth the investment to trade up. DAL is going to ask a lot for a top 5 pick.

I'm a little more interested in Bol Bol next year. If the Kings pick hits, they might end up getting a player with some outside skills that could be 7'5-7'6. This would cost less than trading up to get Bamba, a player I'm less interested in.

Respectfully disagree. Bamba has already played a year at the college level and has the better NBA body. Bigger wingspan, more mature, can rebound, and guys taller than 7'1" or so have a very spotty injury history. The last thing we want is to draft Shawn Bradley.

Cost matters of course and I'm fine with standing pat, but I wouldn't even be thinking about Bol Bol, who I doubt plays any useful NBA basketball for another 3+ years.

Definitely agree that Bol Bol is a big time project. He's skinny, and always will be skinny. Bamba may even be the better player. I just think Bamba is going to be overvalued tonight. I think Bol is more realistic.

Imagine yourself as a Dallas fan. Your team stinks. Tonight is a big night for you.

Are you going to be ok with Terry Rozier + SAC pick (who knows what that is) + filler?
Danny's not throwing any of the starters out there tonight in a trade for Bamba.
Title: Re: Woj has Mamba to the Mavs at 5 does Danny swoop in?
Post by: green_bballers13 on June 21, 2018, 06:33:31 PM
Consensus moving towards standing pat in the First but maybe grabbing a second rounder..



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Sounds like the Boston Celtics are staying put in the first round, but trying to get in to the second round (where Boston's pick went to the Thunder). The Celtics could buy a pick or move a future pick.

3:08 PM - 21 Jun 2018

I'd love if they picked up another pick tonight, and would be satisfied if they drafted Smart and Rozier's replacements. Khyri Thomas and Jaleb Brunson/Jevon Carter may eventually be serviceable replacements to come off the bench.