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Title: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on June 12, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23766092/how-draymond-green-sacrificed-build-golden-state-warriors-dynasty-nba

Lol. The cracks are starting to appear
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: saltlover on June 12, 2018, 03:52:46 PM
As he’s currently not eligible, this will probably not be an issue for Golden State.  Maybe he’s trying to motivate himself to win DPOY again next year.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: droopdog7 on June 12, 2018, 03:54:52 PM
Considering that they've won three of the last four titles, I hardly see the LOL.  I would love for the cracks in the Celts to start to appear AFTER three titles.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Roy H. on June 12, 2018, 03:58:32 PM
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Yes, Durant won Finals MVP, but it was Green who took home the game ball, and perhaps rightly so. Because if it weren't for Green's financial sacrifice three years ago, Durant playing in the Bay Area likely would have been a pipe dream, and securing three championships in four years likely would have been out of reach.

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Instead of focusing on maximizing his earnings in what was the most important summer of his career financially, Green had his sights set on the following summer -- when a certain 7-foot scoring machine would hit the market. Green studied the collective bargaining agreement, crunched the numbers and accepted just enough so Durant's max salary could fit into the Warriors' equation.

Holy delusions of grandeur. Green may have taken less, but it wasn’t because he planned a year ahead of time to give up exactly what Durant would need.

First, despite his “number crunching”, the value of a max contract wasn’t known until the following July. Second, it’s the Warriors front office that offered the deal, not Green.  That’s exactly why this part is undoubtedly true:

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At the time of finalizing his deal, Green said he kept his plan to pursue Durant to himself. Green and Durant also maintain that there was no courting until after the 2015-16 season
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Donoghus on June 12, 2018, 04:05:24 PM
Well, he does have BJ Armstrong has his agent......
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: saltlover on June 12, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
Well, he does have BJ Armstrong has his agent......

That makes so much more sense.  I still can’t believe the combined idiocy of BJ Armstrong and Donatas Motiejunas.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Who on June 12, 2018, 04:25:43 PM
He deserves it.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Tr1boy on June 12, 2018, 04:29:46 PM
If Horford is making 30...26 for Green is a decent value
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Tr1boy on June 12, 2018, 04:30:54 PM
Cant wait for celts to beat gsw...make them pay the ultra luxury tax but come out empty handed
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: ManUp on June 12, 2018, 04:36:09 PM
If Horford is making 30...26 for Green is a decent value

This.

Two star role players, but I'm not sure if Draymond's game ages as well as Horford's.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: johnnygreen on June 12, 2018, 04:38:10 PM
I see Draymond Green as the big man version of Marcus Smart. I love Marcus, but he is no max type player. Because of the premium position Green plays and his importance to the team, I could see paying him max type money. However, no way is he in the supermax territory. That contract is reserved for players like Curry and Durant.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: CelticsElite on June 12, 2018, 04:41:39 PM
If Horford is making 30...26 for Green is a decent value
the supermax is 45.2 which is what green wants

Green wants to make more than what james harden makes
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Celtics4ever on June 12, 2018, 04:44:38 PM
That is not going to happen, if someone pays him that it will be worse then Evan Turner's contract....
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Birdman on June 12, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Wow!! Good luck! Put him on another team and he is anthony mason..just be an average player
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: rondofan1255 on June 12, 2018, 04:52:34 PM
Wow hope GSW gives him 45 million per!

Well, he does have BJ Armstrong has his agent......

That makes so much more sense.  I still can’t believe the combined idiocy of BJ Armstrong and Donatas Motiejunas.

Just looked up Motiejunas, I didn’t realize he plays in China lol
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: celticsclay on June 12, 2018, 04:56:02 PM
I honestly think Green is the most overrated player in the game. One of those joke lists that SI or ESPN had him 10th last year. I think he is closer to 30-35th. I want to see him on the magic making max money so bad.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on June 12, 2018, 04:58:06 PM
It would so awesome if Draymond Green ended up being the key figure in Golden State's slide back into mediocrity.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: saltlover on June 12, 2018, 05:01:15 PM
Wow hope GSW gives him 45 million per!

Well, he does have BJ Armstrong has his agent......

That makes so much more sense.  I still can’t believe the combined idiocy of BJ Armstrong and Donatas Motiejunas.

Just looked up Motiejunas, I didn’t realize he plays in China lol

Yeah, I had to look it up also.  I’d actually forgotten his name, so I had to go back to the Pelicans roster from last year to refresh my memory.  Out of sight, out of mind.

Well done BJ Armstrong.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: saltlover on June 12, 2018, 05:01:57 PM
It would so awesome if Draymond Green ended up being the key figure in Golden State's slide back into mediocrity.

So long as they have KD and Steph, that team will not resemble mediocre.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: johnnygreen on June 12, 2018, 05:04:49 PM
Of the very few times that I watched Golden State in the playoffs, I thought teams should have used the hack-a-shaq game plan towards Green, especially in Golden State. Why not take that crowd out of the equation. Yes, he is a decent free throw shooter, but he also gets very frustrated and can check out mentally because of it. The other thing I would have done is laying off Green when he was near the 3 point line. He did not look like he wanted to shoot from outside, as he looked to want to pass first and shoot second.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: nickagneta on June 12, 2018, 05:10:32 PM
Green isn't worth a supermax, though I am not sure that matters as he isn't eligible yet, but I think he is worth a lot more than many here think. Draymond Green is a dink and its easy not to like him, but, he is an anazing basketball player. If he was on another team as a #2 scoring option, instead of as a #4 scoring option, taking 15-17 FGA per game, Green could easily be putting up 20+/8/8/2/1.5 numbers with DPOY defense. Thats max level contract level player IMHO.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: SparzWizard on June 12, 2018, 05:12:58 PM
Take out Curry, Thompson, and Durant for one game and you have Draymond Green disappearing.

Supermax LOLOL
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Beat LA on June 12, 2018, 05:15:41 PM
Wow!! Good luck! Put him on another team and he is anthony mason..just be an average player

Lol. Way to take a dump on Anthony Mason, broheim ;D. #ShouldHaveBeenACeltic
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill supermax in 2019
Post by: Tr1boy on June 12, 2018, 05:23:03 PM
Wow hope GSW gives him 45 million per!

Well, he does have BJ Armstrong has his agent......

That makes so much more sense.  I still can’t believe the combined idiocy of BJ Armstrong and Donatas Motiejunas.

Just looked up Motiejunas, I didn’t realize he plays in China lol

The dummy let his ego get in the way

lost 30 plus million and now is working for 25 cents on the dollar in china
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: KGs Knee on June 12, 2018, 05:24:33 PM
Green isn't worth a supermax, though I am not sure that matters as he isn't eligible yet, but I think he is worth a lot more than many here think. Draymond Green is a dink and its easy not to like him, but, he is an anazing basketball player. If he was on another team as a #2 scoring option, instead of as a #4 scoring option, taking 15-17 FGA per game, Green could easily be putting up 20+/8/8/2/1.5 numbers with DPOY defense. Thats max level contract level player IMHO.

No way Green is averaging 20 ppg on any team, not unless you're okay with him taking 25 shots per game and shooting a terrible percentage.

Green is the epitome of a player who the is the beneficiary of his environment.  Put him on a team where defenses can focus on him and he'd be exposed big time.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: dreamgreen on June 12, 2018, 05:59:00 PM
Green isn't worth a supermax, though I am not sure that matters as he isn't eligible yet, but I think he is worth a lot more than many here think. Draymond Green is a dink and its easy not to like him, but, he is an anazing basketball player. If he was on another team as a #2 scoring option, instead of as a #4 scoring option, taking 15-17 FGA per game, Green could easily be putting up 20+/8/8/2/1.5 numbers with DPOY defense. Thats max level contract level player IMHO.

No way Green is averaging 20 ppg on any team, not unless you're okay with him taking 25 shots per game and shooting a terrible percentage.

Green is the epitome of a player who the is the beneficiary of his environment.  Put him on a team where defenses can focus on him and he'd be exposed big time.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: Beat LA on June 12, 2018, 06:05:46 PM
Green isn't worth a supermax, though I am not sure that matters as he isn't eligible yet, but I think he is worth a lot more than many here think. Draymond Green is a dink and its easy not to like him, but, he is an anazing basketball player. If he was on another team as a #2 scoring option, instead of as a #4 scoring option, taking 15-17 FGA per game, Green could easily be putting up 20+/8/8/2/1.5 numbers with DPOY defense. Thats max level contract level player IMHO.

While I would agree if we were talking about this in a vacuum, I definitely think that he's worth that much to the Warriors, and it doesn't exactly take a genius to see that he's the key to their team.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: Beat LA on June 12, 2018, 06:06:52 PM
Green isn't worth a supermax, though I am not sure that matters as he isn't eligible yet, but I think he is worth a lot more than many here think. Draymond Green is a dink and its easy not to like him, but, he is an anazing basketball player. If he was on another team as a #2 scoring option, instead of as a #4 scoring option, taking 15-17 FGA per game, Green could easily be putting up 20+/8/8/2/1.5 numbers with DPOY defense. Thats max level contract level player IMHO.

No way Green is averaging 20 ppg on any team, not unless you're okay with him taking 25 shots per game and shooting a terrible percentage.

Green is the epitome of a player who the is the beneficiary of his environment.  Put him on a team where defenses can focus on him and he'd be exposed big time.

Agreed.

Not even in the G League, lol? ;) ;D
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: green_bballers13 on June 12, 2018, 06:12:58 PM
Green isn't worth a supermax, though I am not sure that matters as he isn't eligible yet, but I think he is worth a lot more than many here think. Draymond Green is a dink and its easy not to like him, but, he is an anazing basketball player. If he was on another team as a #2 scoring option, instead of as a #4 scoring option, taking 15-17 FGA per game, Green could easily be putting up 20+/8/8/2/1.5 numbers with DPOY defense. Thats max level contract level player IMHO.

No way Green is averaging 20 ppg on any team, not unless you're okay with him taking 25 shots per game and shooting a terrible percentage.

Green is the epitome of a player who the is the beneficiary of his environment.  Put him on a team where defenses can focus on him and he'd be exposed big time.

Agreed.

Not even in the G League, lol? ;) ;D

Nah, there are prob. more talented offensive players on each G team league.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: green_bballers13 on June 12, 2018, 06:26:47 PM
Why there aren't 10 Draymond Greens..... I guess I don't know.

He's not exceptional in any particular aspect of the game besides hustle. He is competent at most everything, and is an excellent defender. These types of guys should be more common.

I hope GS gives him crazy money.
Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: Monkhouse on June 12, 2018, 06:47:32 PM
I think his game will age well... He doesn't rely on athleticism, he's not uber quick, but he relies on specific timing, and using his wingspan/strength well.

His passing is slightly inflated due to the great shooters, but he handles the ball well enough to be able to push the fast break. I think he will always be above average passer for his position, and average like 4-6 APG easily.

Super max? Well, that's a little ridiculous to expect that. Curry is worth the supermax. Durant is worth the supermax. Klay? Maybe... But you would be hard pressed to be able to find anyone that can replicate what Draymond brings. I would argue that Draymond and Klay are equally as important, and that with the arrival of Durant. It all leads to prove that keeping Draymond should be more valuable than Klay, due to how much their defense will decline. I'm not convinced Bell can even produce half of what Draymond can do, but Bell is certainly in line to be the successor. Question remains, if he can still even bring to the table what Dray can bring.

That being said, there is a lot of hate for Dray. I still like him, even though he's dirty, talks a lot of trash. He reminds me of how I felt about Joakim Noah. Hated him, but my god Noah in in 2010-2012 would've been perfect on our team.

Title: Re: Sources: Draymond Green wants $226 mill, 5 year supermax in 2019
Post by: Beat LA on June 12, 2018, 07:38:53 PM
Green isn't worth a supermax, though I am not sure that matters as he isn't eligible yet, but I think he is worth a lot more than many here think. Draymond Green is a dink and its easy not to like him, but, he is an anazing basketball player. If he was on another team as a #2 scoring option, instead of as a #4 scoring option, taking 15-17 FGA per game, Green could easily be putting up 20+/8/8/2/1.5 numbers with DPOY defense. Thats max level contract level player IMHO.

No way Green is averaging 20 ppg on any team, not unless you're okay with him taking 25 shots per game and shooting a terrible percentage.

Green is the epitome of a player who the is the beneficiary of his environment.  Put him on a team where defenses can focus on him and he'd be exposed big time.

Agreed.

Not even in the G League, lol? ;) ;D

Nah, there are prob. more talented offensive players on each G team league.

Lol, TP ;D.