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Title: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: CelticsElite on May 28, 2018, 01:11:03 AM
If you had to choose one, which do you go with
Title: Re: Bigger importance: resign Baynes or resign Smart?
Post by: celticinorlando on May 28, 2018, 01:11:51 AM
Smart
Title: Re: Bigger importance: resign Baynes or resign Smart?
Post by: CelticsElite on May 28, 2018, 01:12:47 AM
Smart
I can see that argument, considering that theis is coming back and maybe another big is out there that can provide what Baynes did

Hard to find those smart types
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: SparzWizard on May 28, 2018, 01:18:15 AM
Lol get lobster hands outta here
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: blink on May 28, 2018, 01:19:42 AM
i think they are about equal importance. 

Baynes was absolutely great on D in the playoffs.  The only big criticism I have of Stevens is (1) not going back to starting Baynes a game sooner in the ECF and probably playing him more.

when he was on the court we seemed to be a lot better on D.  He started those last couple of games and played mostly in the 1st quarter when we played really well.  He had 18 min in game 7.  I just don't see how that is enough.

Smart is a no-brainer to try and resign at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Beat LA on May 28, 2018, 01:20:22 AM
I realize that this sentiment won't be shared by many on here, but I really hope that I've seen Smart play his final game for the Celtics.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: angryguy77 on May 28, 2018, 01:21:15 AM
Baynes. He played within his role and didn't once make me ask why he kept shooting the entire playoffs.

I'm honestly trying to figure out why he didn't play more this series
 
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: CelticsElite on May 28, 2018, 01:21:38 AM
I realize that this sentiment won't be shared by many on here, but I really hope that I've seen Smart play his final game for the Celtics.
any specific reason why? I'm guessing the frustration of seeing a guard that can't hit a bucket even when wide open. Its pretty embarrassing sometimes
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: gouki88 on May 28, 2018, 01:21:54 AM
Baynes. Should be cheaper, and makes me pull my hair out less
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: footey on May 28, 2018, 01:28:28 AM
Why can’t we sign both?
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Beat LA on May 28, 2018, 01:43:09 AM
I realize that this sentiment won't be shared by many on here, but I really hope that I've seen Smart play his final game for the Celtics.
any specific reason why? I'm guessing the frustration of seeing a guard that can't hit a bucket even when wide open. Its pretty embarrassing sometimes

Pretty much, lol, but he only exacerbates his offensive ineptitude by taking too many horrible shots, so yeah, I know that he hustles and everything else, but he's just not an NBA player, offensively, imo, and let's not forget about his infamous "heat checks" ::). Pretty cringe-worthy, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: CelticsElite on May 28, 2018, 01:45:35 AM
I realize that this sentiment won't be shared by many on here, but I really hope that I've seen Smart play his final game for the Celtics.
any specific reason why? I'm guessing the frustration of seeing a guard that can't hit a bucket even when wide open. Its pretty embarrassing sometimes

Pretty much, lol, but he only exacerbates his offensive ineptitude by taking too many horrible shots, so yeah, I know that he hustles and everything else, but he's just not an NBA player, offensively, imo, and let's not forget about his infamous "heat checks" ::). Pretty cringe-worthy, wouldn't you say?
those heat checks made me laugh though

Who will be my comedic relief if smarts bricked 28 ft attempts aren't there  ;D
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Smartacus on May 28, 2018, 01:50:44 AM
Smart.

Co-sign to the point mentioned about Theis. You give him the spot start or first big off the bench role, he's been shooting 3's for longer than Baynes and looked great with Horford,

Smart is much more difficult to replace and works well off Horford when other scorers are on the floor.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Beat LA on May 28, 2018, 02:27:01 AM
I realize that this sentiment won't be shared by many on here, but I really hope that I've seen Smart play his final game for the Celtics.
any specific reason why? I'm guessing the frustration of seeing a guard that can't hit a bucket even when wide open. Its pretty embarrassing sometimes

Pretty much, lol, but he only exacerbates his offensive ineptitude by taking too many horrible shots, so yeah, I know that he hustles and everything else, but he's just not an NBA player, offensively, imo, and let's not forget about his infamous "heat checks" ::). Pretty cringe-worthy, wouldn't you say?
those heat checks made me laugh though

Who will be my comedic relief if smarts bricked 28 ft attempts aren't there  ;D

Fair enough ;D. Watching Brown make Ashton Kutcher look like Michael Cooper was pretty hilarious, as well, imo, plus Jaylen also appears to have the hands of Patrick Ewing ::), so there's that ;D.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Somebody on May 28, 2018, 02:28:33 AM
I realize that this sentiment won't be shared by many on here, but I really hope that I've seen Smart play his final game for the Celtics.
any specific reason why? I'm guessing the frustration of seeing a guard that can't hit a bucket even when wide open. Its pretty embarrassing sometimes

Pretty much, lol, but he only exacerbates his offensive ineptitude by taking too many horrible shots, so yeah, I know that he hustles and everything else, but he's just not an NBA player, offensively, imo, and let's not forget about his infamous "heat checks" ::). Pretty cringe-worthy, wouldn't you say?
those heat checks made me laugh though

Who will be my comedic relief if smarts bricked 28 ft attempts aren't there  ;D

Fair enough ;D. Watching Brown make Ashton Kutcher look like Michael Cooper was pretty hilarious, as well, imo, plus Jaylen also appears to have the hands of Patrick Ewing ::), so there's that ;D.
At least Jaylen has come up big for Boston in other playoff games and has showed stud potential.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: playdream on May 28, 2018, 02:45:26 AM
I will be happy keeping either one but after hearing Smart asking for more than 14$ my vote is Baynes
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: CelticsElite on May 28, 2018, 02:46:50 AM
I will be happy keeping either one but after hearing Smart asking for more than 14$ my vote is Baynes
true but I wonder if Baynes is looking for a pay day too
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: colincb on May 28, 2018, 02:52:57 AM
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“To be honest, I’m worth more than 12-14 million,” Smart told ESPN. “Just for the things I do on the court that don’t show up on the stat sheet. You don’t find guys like that. I always leave everything on the court, every game. Tell me how many other players can say that.”

He's an elite defensive player who almost offsets that completely on the offensive end.; He's not worth what he thinks he is unless someone is stupid.

If I can't have both, then Baynes.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: j804 on May 28, 2018, 03:16:21 AM
Wait so Smart can leave he’s a free agent next year? I thought we had him for another year.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: gouki88 on May 28, 2018, 03:36:45 AM
Wait so Smart can leave he’s a free agent next year? I thought we had him for another year.
He's a restricted Free Agent. We can match his offers, but unlikely to be worthwhile unless he generates no interest
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Beat LA on May 28, 2018, 04:31:16 AM
I realize that this sentiment won't be shared by many on here, but I really hope that I've seen Smart play his final game for the Celtics.
any specific reason why? I'm guessing the frustration of seeing a guard that can't hit a bucket even when wide open. Its pretty embarrassing sometimes

Pretty much, lol, but he only exacerbates his offensive ineptitude by taking too many horrible shots, so yeah, I know that he hustles and everything else, but he's just not an NBA player, offensively, imo, and let's not forget about his infamous "heat checks" ::). Pretty cringe-worthy, wouldn't you say?
those heat checks made me laugh though

Who will be my comedic relief if smarts bricked 28 ft attempts aren't there  ;D

Fair enough ;D. Watching Brown make Ashton Kutcher look like Michael Cooper was pretty hilarious, as well, imo, plus Jaylen also appears to have the hands of Patrick Ewing ::), so there's that ;D.
At least Jaylen has come up big for Boston in other playoff games and has showed stud potential.

Yeah, I know. Pretty big blemish on his record, to date, though, unfortunately :-\.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Androslav on May 28, 2018, 04:49:23 AM
Right now I feel like Smart is here for us to sign, just to get a mid-sized salary. Hopefully team friendly. I just don't think you can play a nonthreat, a la Dennis Rodman, in today's biggest games. We can plug in someone else if needed.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: TheSundanceKid on May 28, 2018, 06:21:47 AM
Smart is the priority but as always the numbers matter. I'd rather Baynes at a reasonable price than Smart at an extortionate price
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Stig on May 28, 2018, 06:52:53 AM
I like Smart but I don’t think he is irreplaceable. To me he’s like Even Turner or Jarred Sullinger, not worth spending more than 10m for.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Csfan1984 on May 28, 2018, 07:01:46 AM
I like Smart but I don’t think he is irreplaceable. To me he’s like Even Turner or Jarred Sullinger, not worth spending more than 10m for.
Yup. Sign him cheap or let him walk. A guy who can kill you more than help half the games he plays is a mle or min player.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: dreamgreen on May 28, 2018, 07:32:08 AM
Glad someone brought this up because I've been thinking about it and IMO Baynes is more important than the Chucker!
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: celticinorlando on May 28, 2018, 07:55:58 AM
I said Smart but with what he wants, resign Baynes and sign a free agent for cheap

I would love to reddick somehow. He will be expensive
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Celtics4ever on May 28, 2018, 08:53:43 AM
How about an upgrade both?
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: coco on May 28, 2018, 08:59:02 AM
Big bruiser defensive bigs are hard to find.  And Cs wiil not get passed Philly without one.  I say keep Bynes.  Also, he should be cheaper than Smart.

Have to admit; i’d hate to lose Smart.  We probably need him more than Rozzier ....if you have to keep a backup Guard.
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: hwangjini_1 on May 28, 2018, 12:17:17 PM
it seems as if the celtics will not be sitting on their laurels this off season.

Sean Deveney

@SeanDeveney
 I'm hearing things about the  Celtics offseason. It won't be stagnant ...  Stay tuned. https://twitter.com/SeanDeveney/status/1001101870130085889 …

10:14 AM - May 28, 2018
Title: Re: Bigger offseason importance: re-sign Baynes or re-sign Smart?
Post by: Big333223 on May 28, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
Big bruiser defensive bigs are hard to find. And Cs wiil not get passed Philly without one.  I say keep Bynes.  Also, he should be cheaper than Smart.

Have to admit; i’d hate to lose Smart.  We probably need him more than Rozzier ....if you have to keep a backup Guard.

I don't think that's true. There are a lot of big men floating around the NBA right with Baynes' skillset. There are almost none that have Marcus Smart's defensive versatility and passion.
Title: SMART: why did you have to say that?
Post by: ForexPirate on May 28, 2018, 01:29:17 PM
Marcus ... why did you have to say back up the Brinks truck and that you deserve that?  You know what Danny does when players say that... BYE