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Title: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: Moranis on May 24, 2018, 04:14:08 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23595163/cleveland-lebron-james-houston-james-harden-unanimously-voted-all-nba-first-team

Davis, Durant, and Lillard join James and Harden on the 1st team

2nd Team - Westbrook, DeRozan, Giannis, Aldridge, Embiid

3rd Team - Curry, Oladipo, George, Butler, and Towns

Edit: By making the 3rd Team, Towns is eligible for the larger 188 million dollar extension.  Embiid, by not making the 1st team, lost nearly 30 million dollars based on a clause in his contract.  His contract is now 146.5 million instead of 175.7 million had he made the 1st team.  Davis, by making the 1st team, is now eligible for the supermax, which will be 5 years approximately 230 million.
Title: All-NBA Teams Announced - No Celtics
Post by: JHTruth on May 24, 2018, 04:15:30 PM
All-NBA First Team
F: LeBron James, Cavaliers
G: James Harden, Rockets
C/F: Anthony Davis, Pelicans
G: Damian Lillard, Trail Blazers
F: Kevin Durant, Warriors

All-NBA Second Team
F: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Bucks
G: Russell Westbrook, Thunder
C: Joel Embiid, 76ers
C/F: LaMarcus Aldridge, Spurs
G: DeMar DeRozan, Raptors

All-NBA Third Team
G: Stephen Curry, Warriors
G: Victor Oladipo, Pacers
C/F: Karl-Anthony Towns, Timberwolves
F/G: Jimmy Butler, Timberwolves
F: Paul George, Thunder

Somewhat related sidenote - AD now eligible for SuperMax, $230mm next summer..
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: Androslav on May 24, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
No Celtics.
Poor evaluation.
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: GreenEnvy on May 24, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
Lillard should not be First-Team.

I suppose Kyrie missed too much time, but maybe Horford Third-Team?

Seems pretty contradictory to say Celtics have no elite players AND Brad is overrated, no?
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: Donoghus on May 24, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
1 win from an NBA Finals appearance with zero players on an All-NBA team.

That's darn impressive.
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: Moranis on May 24, 2018, 04:20:55 PM
Really strange year for the C.F. teams.  Boston has 0, Cleveland and Houston only have 1, and even the vaunted Golden State only managed 2. 
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: jpotter33 on May 24, 2018, 04:21:00 PM
Lillard should not be First-Team.

I suppose Kyrie missed too much time, but maybe Horford Third-Team?

Seems pretty contradictory to say Celtics have no elite players AND Brad is overrated, no?

Kyrie played 9 more games than Curry, who made the third team.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Stephen+Curry&player_id1_select=Stephen+Curry&y1=2018&player_id1=curryst01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id2_select=Kyrie+Irving&y2=2018&player_id2=irvinky01&idx=players

No way Dipo should've made it over Kyrie. That's an absolute travesty - better counting stats and percentages AND on the better team!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1_select=Kyrie+Irving&y1=2018&player_id1=irvinky01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Victor+Oladipo&player_id2_select=Victor+Oladipo&y2=2018&player_id2=oladivi01&idx=players
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: liam on May 24, 2018, 04:24:18 PM
Two way play does not seem to matter on the all NBA team. Only Davis, Butler, Oladipo, and
Paul George play both ends. That's way so many "All NBA" players have already gone fishing.
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: GreenEnvy on May 24, 2018, 04:31:58 PM
Lillard should not be First-Team.

I suppose Kyrie missed too much time, but maybe Horford Third-Team?

Seems pretty contradictory to say Celtics have no elite players AND Brad is overrated, no?

Kyrie played 9 more games than Curry, who made the third team.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Stephen+Curry&player_id1_select=Stephen+Curry&y1=2018&player_id1=curryst01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id2_select=Kyrie+Irving&y2=2018&player_id2=irvinky01&idx=players

No way Dipo should've made it over Kyrie. That's an absolute travesty - better counting stats and percentages AND on the better team!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1_select=Kyrie+Irving&y1=2018&player_id1=irvinky01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Victor+Oladipo&player_id2_select=Victor+Oladipo&y2=2018&player_id2=oladivi01&idx=players

I guess the fact that Kyrie’s injury was season-ending put him out of mind, I personally don’t understand it but that’s my guess.

I don’t mind Oladipo though, he had a great season and carried Indy better than anyone would have thought. I’m sure Rozier’s success as a starter to end the season also factored into it.
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: tazzmaniac on May 24, 2018, 04:53:44 PM
Two way play does not seem to matter on the all NBA team. Only Davis, Butler, Oladipo, and
Paul George play both ends. That's way so many "All NBA" players have already gone fishing.
Embiid and Giannis are two way players.
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: nickagneta on May 24, 2018, 06:57:59 PM
Wow, except changing Giannis and Durant, Zach Lowe nailed the 1st 2 teams
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: liam on May 24, 2018, 07:09:46 PM
Two way play does not seem to matter on the all NBA team. Only Davis, Butler, Oladipo, and
Paul George play both ends. That's way so many "All NBA" players have already gone fishing.
Embiid and Giannis are two way players.

Giannis is and sometimes Embiid...
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: Roy H. on May 24, 2018, 10:53:47 PM
I’m wildly biased, but I think a healthy Celtics team would be competitive against either the second or third team.
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: Tr1boy on May 24, 2018, 10:59:51 PM
I’m wildly biased, but I think a healthy Celtics team would be competitive against either the second or third team.

I agree
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: Moranis on May 25, 2018, 08:19:32 AM
Lillard should not be First-Team.

I suppose Kyrie missed too much time, but maybe Horford Third-Team?

Seems pretty contradictory to say Celtics have no elite players AND Brad is overrated, no?

Kyrie played 9 more games than Curry, who made the third team.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Stephen+Curry&player_id1_select=Stephen+Curry&y1=2018&player_id1=curryst01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id2_select=Kyrie+Irving&y2=2018&player_id2=irvinky01&idx=players

No way Dipo should've made it over Kyrie. That's an absolute travesty - better counting stats and percentages AND on the better team!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1_select=Kyrie+Irving&y1=2018&player_id1=irvinky01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Victor+Oladipo&player_id2_select=Victor+Oladipo&y2=2018&player_id2=oladivi01&idx=players
Dipo played in 75 games though.  Irving only had 60.  15 games is a lot of points, rebounds, assists, etc.  Couple that with Indiana greatly overachieving and the Celtics not being much worse without Irving, and it is a pretty easy call to go with Oladipo instead of Irving.  Curry only played in 51 games, but he was just so good and the Warriors were so good with him that I can see him being on the 3rd team, though I wouldn't have complained if it was Irving or Paul either or one of the guys that played close to a full season like Beal or Mitchell
Title: Re: All NBA Teams announced - No Celtics - James and Harden unanimous
Post by: ederson on May 25, 2018, 08:26:47 AM
I see it as great compliment to this TEAM