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Title: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Tr1boy on May 24, 2018, 03:41:08 PM
Or adjust and start Morris or sub him in asap?

Game 6 1st quarter is crucial
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: jambr380 on May 24, 2018, 03:52:13 PM
Well, we saw what happened in game 1 when CLE started Korver and we started Morris (over Baynes)...so, yeah, adjust and start Morris with Baynes off the bench. Basically, Baynes should be out there whenever Thompson is on the court. Horford needs more room to work.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: celticinorlando on May 24, 2018, 04:01:14 PM
Nope. You start Morris and you attack Korver AND JR Smith with tatum and brown

Attack Love with AL and Morris can do the dirty work
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Tr1boy on May 24, 2018, 04:02:25 PM
Well, we saw what happened in games 1 when CLE started Korver and we started Morris (over Baynes)...so, yeah, adjust and start Morris with Baynes off the bench. Basically, Baynes should be out there whenever Thompson is on the court. Horford needs more room to work.

I agree

Hopefully CBS is quicker this time
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Erik on May 24, 2018, 04:06:23 PM
Nope. You start Morris and you attack Korver AND JR Smith with tatum and brown

Attack Love with AL and Morris can do the dirty work

Yep. Go with Morris and it's back to games 1 and 2 where it's just an absolute domination. The Cavs should not be able to play Korver and Love at the same time. We should play lineups that have 4 offensive threats. If you put Love without Thompson, who is guarding Horford. If the answer is Kevin Love, good luck.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: jambr380 on May 24, 2018, 04:11:45 PM
But is Thompson really the guy to sit here? I know Smith and Hill are the Cavs' defensive stoppers, but they have been pretty dreadful. Korver could probably step in for Smith and the Cavs could take their chances with him on Brown - which worked pretty well when he was Dikembe Mutombo-ing him all over the court a couple of games ago.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: celticinorlando on May 24, 2018, 04:16:34 PM
JR Smith cannot guard Tatum nor Brown. He plays and starts just in the hope he gets hot and hits 3s..that is his only purpose

Korver cannot guard Tatum nor Brown. It is ugly to watch

Al will roast Love

Those 3 guys are why they Cavs suck on defense. Our biggest issue is if Rozier will play within himself and take what Hill gives him.

One thing is for sure...IF there is a game 7...I feel Rozier is going to go off
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: jpotter33 on May 24, 2018, 04:26:59 PM
Lue would be an idiot to bench Thompson for Korver. That'd play right into our hands and virtually guarantee us a game 6 win.

If anything, I could see him rolling the dice with Korver in for Smith. You've not really been able to stop Boston's offense anyways, so you might as well bring in the extra offense/shooting, spread the floor, and simply try to outscore Boston.

Not saying that's the smartest move, but I could see Lue making that change over Korver for Thompson.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: liam on May 24, 2018, 04:33:16 PM
Lue would be an idiot to bench Thompson for Korver. That'd play right into our hands and virtually guarantee us a game 6 win.

If anything, I could see him rolling the dice with Korver in for Smith. You've not really been able to stop Boston's offense anyways, so you might as well bring in the extra offense/shooting, spread the floor, and simply try to outscore Boston.

Not saying that's the smartest move, but I could see Lue making that change over Korver for Thompson.

If Smith is hurt that's another injury that hurts the Celtics....
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: yelkao on May 24, 2018, 04:33:22 PM
Lue would be an idiot to bench Thompson for Korver. That'd play right into our hands and virtually guarantee us a game 6 win.

If anything, I could see him rolling the dice with Korver in for Smith. You've not really been able to stop Boston's offense anyways, so you might as well bring in the extra offense/shooting, spread the floor, and simply try to outscore Boston.

Not saying that's the smartest move, but I could see Lue making that change over Korver for Thompson.

Why not just start LeBron, Smith, Korver, Love, Thompson. Bring Hill off the bench. No more Clarkson.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Tr1boy on May 24, 2018, 04:37:15 PM
Lue would be an idiot to bench Thompson for Korver. That'd play right into our hands and virtually guarantee us a game 6 win.

If anything, I could see him rolling the dice with Korver in for Smith. You've not really been able to stop Boston's offense anyways, so you might as well bring in the extra offense/shooting, spread the floor, and simply try to outscore Boston.

Not saying that's the smartest move, but I could see Lue making that change over Korver for Thompson.

Why not just start LeBron, Smith, Korver, Love, Thompson. Bring Hill off the bench. No more Clarkson.

Celts would full court press Lebron. Tire him out quicker

And with no second ball handler on the team, Cavs could be trapped harder

so no, they won't do that
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Csfan1984 on May 24, 2018, 04:50:15 PM
Starting Korver would be playing to the Cs advantage. Baynes could sub Horford sooner and keep Horford fresh.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: PAOBoston on May 24, 2018, 04:55:53 PM
Play Baynes when Thompson plays minute for minute.

If Korver starts, start Morris and just have Brown/Tatum/Morris attack the paint.

That lineup also puts Horford on Love as well.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Fafnir on May 24, 2018, 05:06:03 PM
If the Cavs go back to Love at Center you go back to starting Morris.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Fafnir on May 24, 2018, 05:06:38 PM
Starting Korver would be playing to the Cs advantage. Baynes could sub Horford sooner and keep Horford fresh.
I'm not so sure given how much better Baynes has played compared to Semi.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Chris22 on May 24, 2018, 05:20:14 PM
Starting Korver would be playing to the Cs advantage. Baynes could sub Horford sooner and keep Horford fresh.
I'm not so sure given how much better Baynes has played compared to Semi.

Then you aren't paying attention.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Fafnir on May 24, 2018, 05:28:26 PM
Starting Korver would be playing to the Cs advantage. Baynes could sub Horford sooner and keep Horford fresh.
I'm not so sure given how much better Baynes has played compared to Semi.

Then you aren't paying attention.
How so?

Semi has a TS% .406 this series and has a +/- of

-2 (blowout win game 1)
+1 (blowout win game 2)
-7 (blowout loss)
-14 (near blowout loss)
DNP in game 5

He was really good against the Bucks but hasn't done much against PHI/CLE. I think the C's overall are better off in a game where the Cavs stick with Love at C but Semi isn't a part of that. Its more the other wings and Horford carving the Cavs up in that match up.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Tr1boy on May 25, 2018, 12:11:43 AM
Feeling more and more comfortable with Baynes starting  game 6 regardless

Baynes can battle Love,  Horford on Lebron, Brown on Korver, Tatum on Smith, Rozier on Ghill

Need Baynes big body to make Lebron think twice before driving in
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Ogaju on May 25, 2018, 12:14:03 AM
Key to game 6 is easy run them off the court don’t let LeBron rest. That is the way you beat them.
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: Tr1boy on May 25, 2018, 12:18:32 AM
Key to game 6 is easy run them off the court don’t let LeBron rest. That is the way you beat them.

Lol

Good strategy
Title: Re: If Korver starts game 6 instead of Thompson. Start Baynes?
Post by: footey on May 25, 2018, 12:32:56 AM
JR Smith cannot guard Tatum nor Brown. He plays and starts just in the hope he gets hot and hits 3s..that is his only purpose

Korver cannot guard Tatum nor Brown. It is ugly to watch

Al will roast Love

Those 3 guys are why they Cavs suck on defense. Our biggest issue is if Rozier will play within himself and take what Hill gives him.

One thing is for sure...IF there is a game 7...I feel Rozier is going to go off

Korver guarded Brown quite well in Cleveland.