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Around the League => The Draft => Topic started by: CFAN38 on May 24, 2018, 09:45:23 AM
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Reading different reports it appears this is going to be an interesting draft.
Granted a lot of "sources say" draft reporting can just be smoke screens put out by teams and agents but to date I have read
Atl really like Trae Young and also linked to Bagely
Kings really like MPJ
Kings and Atl not super high on Doncic
Suns leaning towards Ayton.
If most of this is true the Draft could actually play out very differnent then many experts originally predicted.
Could very well be
1. Suns: Ayton
2. Kings: Porter ( this does make alot of sense for an owner who has stated in the past he wants to emulate the Warriors)
3. Atlanta: Young ( seems like a reach but enough teams are rumored to be high on him that they may not be safe to trade down, this makes a Dennis Schroeder draft draft day trade very likely)
4. Memphis: Doncic (hard to think of a better fit for Doncic, a healthy Gasol and Conley would give then a foundation to compete for the playoffs
5-7. Dallas, Orlando, and Bulls: I would then suspect that Bagley, Bamba, and Jackson go at these picks with the Magic sticking to their MO of drafting Length (Bamba or Jackson).
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I do not think Trae Young goes top 3 or even top 5 personally.
I'm pretty high on Jackson but I could see MPJ going second or third. Ayton/Doncic should be 1/2 in some order.
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Letting Doncic fall to #4 would be a draft blunder by PHX, SAC, & ATL, imo.
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I think Doncic will be a bust
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Letting Doncic fall to #4 would be a draft blunder by PHX, SAC, & ATL, imo.
Yeah I can see him going to three as Ayton and MPJ could also be great. But I would take him number one myself.
My dream was the C's moving to #2 and getting him, I truly think he's going to be special.
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Letting Doncic fall to #4 would be a draft blunder by PHX, SAC, & ATL, imo.
Yep. He's got All-NBA written all over him
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I think Doncic will be a bust
I'm not sure about bust. I'm thinking he is more similar to Danilo Gallinari, but will recant from the highest mountain loudly when Doncic makes 1st Team All NBA.
I'm not so sure about next year's draft, but I'm happy that the Celtics aren't looking at one of these guys to save a franchise. I think a lot of these teams will be disappointed that they got a borderline all star vs a game changer.
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Letting Doncic fall to #4 would be a draft blunder by PHX, SAC, & ATL, imo.
If you're looking for a team to commit a draft blunder, those would be some likely suspects.
If Jaren Jackson really falls into the 5-7 range, does the price get low enough for the Cs to try grabbing him? Rozier, Sac '19, Celtics '18?
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What does Rozier + Kings pick + Grizz pick net us? Is that too much to give up for 4 if he falls?
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I think Doncic will be a bust
I'm not sure about bust. I'm thinking he is more similar to Danilo Gallinari, but will recant from the highest mountain loudly when Doncic makes 1st Team All NBA.
I'm not so sure about next year's draft, but I'm happy that the Celtics aren't looking at one of these guys to save a franchise. I think a lot of these teams will be disappointed that they got a borderline all star vs a game changer.
He has highest floor written all over him. MPJ also has a nice floor..
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I think Doncic will be a bust
I'm not sure about bust. I'm thinking he is more similar to Danilo Gallinari, but will recant from the highest mountain loudly when Doncic makes 1st Team All NBA.
Danilo was the rising star of the Euroleague at 19, Doncic was the MVP and best player on the team that won the title. I have higher expectations of Doncic.
Though I'll also say if Danilo doesn't f' up his knee and then get a risky experimental procedure that messes it up more I think he'd have had a much better career. The athleticism he lost losing basically two seasons to that knee and subsequent screw up was massive.
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I don't know about MPJ floor being that high.
I worry he will end up a Rudy Gay type who just scores inefficiently without doing much else for his team. His weaknesses as a ball handler and passer that I read about worry me as does the back.
But I haven't seen him play other than two games in college so I'm not an expert on him or his potential by any means.
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If Jackson falls to 7 that might be worth trying to move up for.
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If Jackson falls to 7 that might be worth trying to move up for.
Yeah I agree he'd be a really great fit.
I really have no handle on how the C's value the Kings pick. Are they going to treat it like the 5th - 9th pick like they said they did the BKN pick this year? Or do they think it's more valuable than that.
Because if you think it will be a mid lottery pick in all odds it would make some sense to package it and grab a player you love in this draft if he falls.
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I think Doncic will be a bust
I'm not sure about bust. I'm thinking he is more similar to Danilo Gallinari, but will recant from the highest mountain loudly when Doncic makes 1st Team All NBA.
Danilo was the rising star of the Euroleague at 19, Doncic was the MVP and best player on the team that won the title. I have higher expectations of Doncic.
Though I'll also say if Danilo doesn't f' up his knee and then get a risky experimental procedure that messes it up more I think he'd have had a much better career. The athleticism he lost losing basically two seasons to that knee and subsequent screw up was massive.
Yeah, people seem to forget that Danilo was on his way to becoming an awesome 3/4. If he stayed healthy he’d probably be the ideal 4 in todays NBA.
Those last 2 years with Denver where he averaged roughly 19/5 on 43/37/88 splits were good fun.
I reckon Doncic could be anything though. In terms of offensive versatlity and competence, I can’t think of any prospects that rival him. His shooting, passing and movement are all amazing. He’s also much better defensively than people think, and is a legit 230lbs. Wish we had a shot at him
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Ya what you have to remember is that half the noise coming out of these places is just smoke. It doesn't do a team a lot of good to have everybody know they like player X in spot Y. That kind of stuff is often a message to teams below them that if you want plyer X you can't just wait around and take him where you are you have to trade with us and move up. Thats what the Trae young stuff feels like to me. In some cases a team just puts it out there they like a guy to try and boost his value so that a team above them take hi and the guy they really wnat falls to them. It other cases a player is stiffing the team so they throw it out there that they never wanted him anyway just to head off a PR disaster, that may be what the Kings and Hawks are thinking with Doncic. Alot to consider.
Also, I think the MEM pick is the more likely pick we would move to trade up. The SAC pick is more valuable, but theres also a chance it lands #1 and the team acquiring it gets a pick in the 20's. The MEM pick may have a lower expected value, buts its safe. 1-8, 1-6, unprotected means you are either getting a pick in the back half of the lottery (cuz Mem isnt making the playoffs) or an even better pick a couple years from now. So what value does 9-13 next year + Rozier and maybe #27 (since we probably don't need two rookies next year). That may be enough to get you up to 5-7 depending on who teams fall in love with.
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I think Doncic will be a bust
I'm not sure about bust. I'm thinking he is more similar to Danilo Gallinari, but will recant from the highest mountain loudly when Doncic makes 1st Team All NBA.
Danilo was the rising star of the Euroleague at 19, Doncic was the MVP and best player on the team that won the title. I have higher expectations of Doncic.
Though I'll also say if Danilo doesn't f' up his knee and then get a risky experimental procedure that messes it up more I think he'd have had a much better career. The athleticism he lost losing basically two seasons to that knee and subsequent screw up was massive.
I wasn't aware of the nature of Gallinari's first knee procedure and had to google it. Here is a summary in case anybody else is interested.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nuggets-danilo-gallinari-questions-his-first-doctors-knee-procedure/
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I think one of the most likely trades is Suns trade Ayton down to Sac for Doncic and a future pick (if the Suns aren't interested in any of the King's bigs)
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I think Doncic will be a bust
I'm not sure about bust. I'm thinking he is more similar to Danilo Gallinari, but will recant from the highest mountain loudly when Doncic makes 1st Team All NBA.
Danilo was the rising star of the Euroleague at 19, Doncic was the MVP and best player on the team that won the title. I have higher expectations of Doncic.
Though I'll also say if Danilo doesn't f' up his knee and then get a risky experimental procedure that messes it up more I think he'd have had a much better career. The athleticism he lost losing basically two seasons to that knee and subsequent screw up was massive.
I wasn't aware of the nature of Gallinari's first knee procedure and had to google it. Here is a summary in case anybody else is interested.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nuggets-danilo-gallinari-questions-his-first-doctors-knee-procedure/
Yeah Matt Moore mentioned the issue on a podcast I listened to and my eyes bugged out. Such a bad situation. I believe another player also had the procedure and it also went bad.
The funny but sad aspect to it is Nuggets and Gallo both claim it was the other side who brought up this surgery as an option. Just a whole lot of finger pointing about it.
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I think one of the most likely trades is Suns trade Ayton down to Sac for Doncic and a future pick (if the Suns aren't interested in any of the King's bigs)
I really don't think Sacramento does that.
They're already missing a likely premium pick in 2018 and have no other additional first round draft picks coming to them.
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I think one of the most likely trades is Suns trade Ayton down to Sac for Doncic and a future pick (if the Suns aren't interested in any of the King's bigs)
I really don't think Sacramento does that.
They're already missing a likely premium pick in 2018 and have no other additional first round draft picks coming to them.
Meant to say Kings get Ayton....
edit: oh, I did say that...okay I get you...
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I think one of the most likely trades is Suns trade Ayton down to Sac for Doncic and a future pick (if the Suns aren't interested in any of the King's bigs)
I really don't think Sacramento does that.
They're already missing a likely premium pick in 2018 and have no other additional first round draft picks coming to them.
Meant to say Kings get Ayton....
edit: oh, I did say that...okay I get you...
Rather I should say I don't think the Kings should do that.
Would they do it? Quite possibly, they are very dumb and could fall in love with Ayton.