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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: Jvalin on May 22, 2018, 11:45:10 AM
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Rumor has it that KAT might be available.
Has anybody noticed what’s going on in Minnesota with Karl-Anthony Towns and that organization? If I were the Celtics, I would make a quiet call to Minnesota.
I would just say, if the Celtics are looking for opportunities and sort of lay and wait, that might be one right there. I don’t think Anthony Davis is going anywhere, anytime soon. Karl Towns, that might be a different story.
It's only logical to assume that Danny is intrigued. He makes the call. First offer on the table: a bunch of spare parts + the Kings pick. The Wolves hang up the phone. Danny waits a couple of days and then makes a second call. He offers Brown + the Kings pick, but the Wolves already have Butler-Wiggins. They want Tatum.
So let's KAT to the chase here
Tatum + Clips pick for KAT
What do you guys say?
Really tough decision, but at the end of the day I think I do it.
Alternatively (less likely scenario): the Wolves want Kyrie. Kyrie wants to play with Butler (after all he had the Wolves on his list of preferred trade destinations last year). The C's trade Kyrie Irving + Clips 2019 first to the Wolves for KAT + Aldrich + Tyus Jones (or something like that).
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on a separate note
would you rather have a
Kyrie/Brown/Tatum/Hayward/Horford lineup
or
Rozier (one of Brown/Tatum) / Hayward / Horford/Kat lineup
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Come on guys... irwing was before his injury the a-dog..
It remains that way
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What makes KAT a better player than Tatum projects? I'm really interested to hear about how a guy who has recently been criticised for his effort as a third wheel has more potential than our most successful rookie since Bird...
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The attractiveness of trading Tatum for Towns (I would not include any other picks, I am considering a straight up deal) is that Towns is a big and really good bigs are harder to find. Plus we have Hayward who plays the same position as Tatum's natural position. So we upgrade from Baynes/Morris to Towns while replacing Tatum with Hayward. I would do this. I don't relish giving up Tatum but I like Towns too and he balances our roster better.
My question is why would Minny do this. As someone said, they have Butler and Wiggins. Towns fits perfectly with them.
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Nope. Just find a way to get Justin Patton, instead :).
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*Looks at poll results in this trade idea thread*
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If he was half the player defensively that he is offensively, you'd do the trade. And it's not just inexperience, I think he's lazy.
I wouldn't do it. I think JT is going to be an all-nba level player.
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No chance. Tatum is cost-controlled for way longer than KAT, gives his all on defence (even if he does make the odd mistake), and is just more fun ;)
*Looks at poll results in this trade idea thread*
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TP lol
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FWIW, I think a lot more people would be willing to give up Irving rather than Tatum in a KAT deal.
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FWIW, I think a lot more people would be willing to give up Irving rather than Tatum in a KAT deal.
i would...got rozier and smart plus irviing knees are a concern to me
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FWIW, I think a lot more people would be willing to give up Irving rather than Tatum in a KAT deal.
I would much rather give up Irving. It looks like Tatum might end up impacting winning more than Towns or Irving.
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Its funny that so many people are so quick to trade players and picks for big like KAT or high picks to draft one. Of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs not one has a dominant, top 50 player type big. Capela is the best and he was found later in the draft and is extremely limited offensively.
I wouldn't do the trade. I love Stevens switch everything defense with a lot of big long wings and Horford. And I don't think KAT would fit well in it. Also, this team is stacked offensively next year with everyone back and healthy. We don't need KAT there.
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FWIW, I think a lot more people would be willing to give up Irving rather than Tatum in a KAT deal.
i would...got rozier and smart plus irviing knees are a concern to me
Going forward with Rozier as our PG wouldn't be great. He's not consistent at all and out of control half the time. When he's hot, he's one of the better PG's, but when he's not, he doens't have any other skill set to really impact the team. His Defense isn't as good as it should be for a guy that quick. He's had a nice run, but I'd sell high on him and find an other back up PG in this draft.
KI's knees have been cleared by the MED staff. The issue was screws from when he broke it that never got taken out, and was suppose to this summer. They were rubbing wrong, And then the infection happened to make it worse. Everything about the knee structurally looks good.
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Its funny that so many people are so quick to trade players and picks for big like KAT or high picks to draft one. Of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs not one has a dominant, top 50 player type big. Capela is the best and he was found later in the draft and is extremely limited offensively.
I wouldn't do the trade. I love Stevens switch everything defense with a lot of big long wings and Horford. And I don't think KAT would fit well in it. Also, this team is stacked offensively next year with everyone back and healthy. We don't need KAT there.
Al Horford says hello! :P Not to mention, Kevin Love has been playing big minutes at the 5 position this season.
The way I see it, KAT would be a long term replacement for Horford. Of course, he can play alongside Horford as well.
FWIW, I think a lot more people would be willing to give up Irving rather than Tatum in a KAT deal.
Yep, me too. Having said that, I bet the Wolves would rather have Tatum.
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I'm not too cure I'd trade Tatum for anything less than AD. This summer he should add about 20lbs(preferably the lower body). His length gives him the ability to guard other PF's.
I'd rather see the C's try to move up to get one of the bigs that may need a couple more years to completely get it, learn the right way under Big Al, come off the bench and be the defensive anchor with Smart. Then when Al's contact is done, move up with the big boys.
The thing abnout KAT is that he's complaining about being 3rd option. What do you think he's going to be here with Irving/Hayward/Brown in a league gearing towards wings dominating?
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Its funny that so many people are so quick to trade players and picks for big like KAT or high picks to draft one. Of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs not one has a dominant, top 50 player type big. Capela is the best and he was found later in the draft and is extremely limited offensively.
I wouldn't do the trade. I love Stevens switch everything defense with a lot of big long wings and Horford. And I don't think KAT would fit well in it. Also, this team is stacked offensively next year with everyone back and healthy. We don't need KAT there.
Al Horford says hello! :P Not to mention, Kevin Love has been playing big minutes at the 5 position this season.
The way I see it, KAT would be a long term replacement for Horford. Of course, he can play alongside Horford as well.
FWIW, I think a lot more people would be willing to give up Irving rather than Tatum in a KAT deal.
Yep, me too. Having said that, I bet the Wolves would rather have Tatum.
I look at Horford and Love as PFs who's coaches decide to play out of position because its better to play that way in today's game of wings and guard dominance. That they are playing out of position only strengthens my opinion that you don't need a dominant center.
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TP for the thread title.
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Its funny that so many people are so quick to trade players and picks for big like KAT or high picks to draft one. Of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs not one has a dominant, top 50 player type big. Capela is the best and he was found later in the draft and is extremely limited offensively.
I wouldn't do the trade. I love Stevens switch everything defense with a lot of big long wings and Horford. And I don't think KAT would fit well in it. Also, this team is stacked offensively next year with everyone back and healthy. We don't need KAT there.
Al Horford says hello! :P Not to mention, Kevin Love has been playing big minutes at the 5 position this season.
The way I see it, KAT would be a long term replacement for Horford. Of course, he can play alongside Horford as well.
FWIW, I think a lot more people would be willing to give up Irving rather than Tatum in a KAT deal.
Yep, me too. Having said that, I bet the Wolves would rather have Tatum.
I look at Horford and Love as PFs who's coaches decide to play out of position because its better to play that way in today's game of wings and guard dominance. That they are playing out of position only strengthens my opinion that you don't need a dominant center.
Just because you look at Horford as a PF, doesn't mean that he actually is a PF. Guy has been playing at the 5 pretty much his entire career.
The way the game is evolving, most teams are using as many shooters as possible in order to stretch the floor. Let's face it, Horford isn't quick enough to guard undersized stretch-4s on the perimeter. Imo, it's clearer than ever that Horford is better suited playing at the 5.
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Short answer, NO.
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No. But TP for thread title.... :)
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Smart and Rozier are championship caliber...........reserves. Neither is anything more than a role player.
Mystified at some of you. Kyrie played Curry to a draw, has had 30 and 40 pt games in the finals, and hit the big jumper to clinch a title late in a game 7, on the road. He's the kind of player you hope to acquire, instead some of our fans are hoping to trade him.
Lunacy.
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I voted No on Tatum, but I would trade Brown for him and if you've followed my posts, I was one of those leading the charge to draft Brown when others didn't want to.
I would send Brown, the Sac pick and the Clips pick for KAT.
On caveat to this though, is Haywood and Tatum play the 3, I don't know if Tatum can play the 2 like Brown can.
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I voted no, because while I think KAT is a great player, I don't see him as the kind of big the Celtics really need. I believe when Haywood and Irving (and really wish people would stop the silly trade him talk) the offense should be just fine. What they need is a big who can play defend the middle and most importantly rebound. They continue to get killed on the boards.
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Its funny that so many people are so quick to trade players and picks for big like KAT or high picks to draft one. Of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs not one has a dominant, top 50 player type big. Capela is the best and he was found later in the draft and is extremely limited offensively.
I wouldn't do the trade. I love Stevens switch everything defense with a lot of big long wings and Horford. And I don't think KAT would fit well in it. Also, this team is stacked offensively next year with everyone back and healthy. We don't need KAT there.
I agree that wings are important in today's NBA. If we did not have Hayward, I would not trade Tatum for Towns. It would create a problem (at wing) while solving a problem (adding a really good young big to start alongside Horford). But we do have Hayward, so we have a lot of flexibility to trade a wing.
Having both Hayward and Tatum will have its own issues, probably resulting in either Tatum playing as a big or one of Hayward or Tatum coming off the bench. I don't "want" to trade Tatum, I see the potential, but I like Towns too and he gives us much better roster balance moving forward both positionally and in terms of youth (we don't currently have any real good young bigs).
And no, I do not expect that this trade will happen. Neither team would probably want to do it in the end.