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Title: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: CelticsElite on May 09, 2018, 12:26:22 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23450732/shane-larkin-boston-celtics-miss-game-5-indefinitely-
https://mobile.twitter.com/espnforsberg/status/994567008908992513?s=21


Danny Ainge said on @Toucherandrich that the Celtics are planning as if Shane Larkin will not be available for the entire Cavs series but hoping he could be back for latter part of series if shoulder improves
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: footey on May 09, 2018, 12:29:07 PM
This stinks. Brown probably back to starting lineup and Smart becomes back PG.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Erik on May 09, 2018, 12:30:55 PM
We're getting pretty close to the dream: Dancing Bear inserted into the rotation.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: jambr380 on May 09, 2018, 12:31:18 PM
That is too bad, but this shouldn't be a big deal. Rozier, Brown, and Smart should be able to cover all of the guard minutes (32 each). This limits smaller line-ups with Smart/Brown at SF, but Tatum, Morris, Horford, and Baynes should be able to cover front court minutes with a few minutes sprinkled in for Ojeleye and Brown/Smart if need be.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: hodgy03038 on May 09, 2018, 12:32:26 PM
Please do NOT play Nader. I would rather play 4 on 5 rather than play the turnover machine.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 09, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
This sucks!
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: GreenEnvy on May 09, 2018, 01:33:06 PM
This stinks. Brown probably back to starting lineup and Smart becomes back PG.

Tough loss. Hard to replace his 10-12mpg at this point.

I prefer the energy Smart brings off the bench than I do Jaylen’s.

However, with McConnell in the starting lineup, do we really want Brown chasing either him or Reddick all night? Rozier can’t get burned like he did several times last game. I’m sure that’s a point of emphasis for tonight as that was the only real difference we saw from games 1-3 to game 4. TJ got the green light and ran with it, often right past Terry.

I expect a much better effort and intensity from us than last game. The crowd is going to have the Garden rocking.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: jbpats on May 09, 2018, 01:33:55 PM
Call up Bird! Thought he should be on the playoff roster over Nadar anyway.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: liam on May 09, 2018, 01:35:24 PM
This stinks. Brown probably back to starting lineup and Smart becomes back PG.

Tough loss. Hard to replace his 10-12mpg at this point.

I prefer the energy Smart brings off the bench than I do Jaylen’s.

However, with McConnell in the starting lineup, do we really want Brown chasing either him or Reddick all night? Rozier can’t get burned like he did several times last game. I’m sure that’s a point of emphasis for tonight as that was the only real difference we saw from games 1-3 to game 4. TJ got the green light and ran with it, often right past Terry.

I expect a much better effort and intensity from us than last game. The crowd is going to have the Garden rocking.

Niether Reddick nor McConnell can guard Jaylen. Jaylen can guard either one of those guys and can switch onto Simmons if needs be.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: liam on May 09, 2018, 01:35:44 PM
Call up Bird! Thought he should be on the playoff roster over Nadar anyway.

Larry Bird?
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Alleyoopster on May 09, 2018, 01:52:20 PM
Call up Bird! Thought he should be on the playoff roster over Nadar anyway.

Can they call him up? Thought teams were set once the playoffs started?
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: celts55 on May 09, 2018, 02:01:21 PM
I could see them spend some time running the offense through Horford. They did that before in some games when Irving and Smart were both out, and it worked pretty well.
If Brown is healthy I would start him, bring Smart in as back up point guard, then use Horford as needed.
Out of all their injuries, Larkins is the least of the concerns. Maybe Semi steps up a bit.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: celts55 on May 09, 2018, 02:03:26 PM
Call up Bird! Thought he should be on the playoff roster over Nadar anyway.

Can they call him up? Thought teams were set once the playoffs started?

Well No, he's way too old. But if you're taking about Jabari, they can not as far as I know. I'm pretty sure 2-way players are not eligible for playoffs.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Fafnir on May 09, 2018, 02:09:41 PM
Call up Bird! Thought he should be on the playoff roster over Nadar anyway.

Can they call him up? Thought teams were set once the playoffs started?
No they can not call him up.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: jambr380 on May 09, 2018, 03:08:48 PM
Call up Bird! Thought he should be on the playoff roster over Nadar anyway.

Can they call him up? Thought teams were set once the playoffs started?
No they can not call him up.

Which is asinine. You can sign Joe Schmo up until the last day of the season if he wasn't on a roster after 3/1 and he will be playoff eligible, but a player who is in your system and has played games for you during the season is not. I realize the Cs could have potentially waived a player like Nader and signed Bird to a real contract, but with so many injuries, a team should be able to dip into their two-way contract players.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: csfansince60s on May 09, 2018, 03:48:01 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23450732/shane-larkin-boston-celtics-miss-game-5-indefinitely-shoulder-sprain


We officially have no backup guard if something happens to rozier or smart. I don't think we can just bring up kadeem or jabari

While Bird isn't a PG per se, he's a guard who could spell Marcus at the 2 when Smart plays the 1. I really wish we had dumped Nader when we had the chance and signed Bird despite the cap implications (meager in my mind vs his worth to the club RIGHT NOW as next man up) and loss of his control for one year.

I started this poll:

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=95827.msg2498052#msg2498052

Nader is useless except the very occasional 3-ball. His aversion or ineptness (or both) on D sickens me. We shouldve dumped Nader before the last game of the season and signed Bird. and this isnt hindsight.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: TA9 on May 09, 2018, 04:22:18 PM
Larkin has been very injury prone this season. Wonder if it will affect the offers that he'll receive this summer.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: PhoSita on May 09, 2018, 04:30:25 PM
I suspect we'll see Semi get his minutes, maybe a few Greg Monroe minutes.

Terry and Smart will play a lot tonight.

Gotta pull out all the stops to win this series.  Whatever comes after that is a bonus.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: kozlodoev on May 09, 2018, 04:37:07 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23450732/shane-larkin-boston-celtics-miss-game-5-indefinitely-shoulder-sprain


We officially have no backup guard if something happens to rozier or smart. I don't think we can just bring up kadeem or jabari

While Bird isn't a PG per se, he's a guard who could spell Marcus at the 2 when Smart plays the 1. I really wish we had dumped Nader when we had the chance and signed Bird despite the cap implications (meager in my mind vs his worth to the club RIGHT NOW as next man up) and loss of his control for one year.

I started this poll:

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=95827.msg2498052#msg2498052

Nader is useless except the very occasional 3-ball. His aversion or ineptness (or both) on D sickens me. We shouldve dumped Nader before the last game of the season and signed Bird. and this isnt hindsight.
Bird doesn't figure anywhere into the picture. The team will give more time to Ojeleye and play Tatum at SG before resorting to Bird. And they will be right, Oj is decidedly the less awful of the two.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: KGBirdBias on May 09, 2018, 04:42:48 PM
I think Larkin will be rested and ready if not by Sunday by game 2 if they close it out tonight.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: CelticsElite on May 10, 2018, 12:59:44 PM
Danny Ainge said on @Toucherandrich that the Celtics are planning as if Shane Larkin will not be available for the entire Cavs series but hoping he could be back for latter part of series if shoulder improves

https://mobile.twitter.com/espnforsberg/status/994567008908992513?s=21

Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: SHAQATTACK on May 10, 2018, 01:11:58 PM
I d play with a broken leg .

You never know this might be you ONE and ONLy chance to be in a finals series ......especially a guy like Larkin , Morris , etc.

Tatum , Irving , Brown will see more .
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 10, 2018, 02:11:25 PM
Danny Ainge said on @Toucherandrich that the Celtics are planning as if Shane Larkin will not be available for the entire Cavs series but hoping he could be back for latter part of series if shoulder improves

https://mobile.twitter.com/espnforsberg/status/994567008908992513?s=21

Dang.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Phantom255x on May 10, 2018, 03:33:26 PM
Maybe he can come back by Game 3?

There's three days off between Game 2 (Tuesday) and Game 3 (Saturday).

On another note, three days off? Dang. Does that happen that often in playoffs? I think it did a few times like during those Boston-Miami series (2011 for example, with Game 2 on Tuesday, Game 3 Saturday), but usually there's like 2 two-days off periods between games during a series I think. Instead, we have that three day off period, then just a game every other day.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Jiri Welsch on May 10, 2018, 03:40:21 PM
Maybe he can come back by Game 3?

There's three days off between Game 2 (Tuesday) and Game 3 (Saturday).

On another note, three days off? Dang. Does that happen that often in playoffs? I think it did a few times like during those Boston-Miami series (2011 for example, with Game 2 on Tuesday, Game 3 Saturday), but usually there's like 2 two-days off periods between games during a series I think. Instead, we have that three day off period, then just a game every other day.

It happens when the 2nd round matchups all go 4 or 5 games.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Phantom255x on May 10, 2018, 03:41:51 PM
Maybe he can come back by Game 3?

There's three days off between Game 2 (Tuesday) and Game 3 (Saturday).

On another note, three days off? Dang. Does that happen that often in playoffs? I think it did a few times like during those Boston-Miami series (2011 for example, with Game 2 on Tuesday, Game 3 Saturday), but usually there's like 2 two-days off periods between games during a series I think. Instead, we have that three day off period, then just a game every other day.

It happens when the 2nd round matchups all go 4 or 5 games.

Oh okay, TP for that. I honestly didn't know.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: GreenEnvy on May 10, 2018, 04:12:24 PM
Maybe he can come back by Game 3?

There's three days off between Game 2 (Tuesday) and Game 3 (Saturday).

On another note, three days off? Dang. Does that happen that often in playoffs? I think it did a few times like during those Boston-Miami series (2011 for example, with Game 2 on Tuesday, Game 3 Saturday), but usually there's like 2 two-days off periods between games during a series I think. Instead, we have that three day off period, then just a game every other day.

It happens when the 2nd round matchups all go 4 or 5 games.

Yeah, considering the Finals dates are set, they have to protect against short Conference Finals.

Imagine these next two series are shorter than we all anticipate? The winners could have nearly two weeks off before the Finals if they didn’t spread this out now.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: csfansince60s on May 12, 2018, 06:42:32 PM
Any updates on Larkin?
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: BitterJim on May 12, 2018, 06:47:45 PM
I d play with a broken leg .

You never know this might be you ONE and ONLy chance to be in a finals series ......especially a guy like Larkin , Morris , etc.

Tatum , Irving , Brown will see more .

No, you wouldn't.  And anyone that has ever dislocated or sprained a shoulder can tell you that you wouldn't be playing through that, either
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 12, 2018, 06:48:45 PM
Any updates on Larkin?
Ruled out for g1-2 and unlikely to play for the rest of the series according to C’s bloggers/writers  on twitter

(Would link if at a computer)
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: GreenWarrior on May 12, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
eventually we're just going to run out of enough players to put on the court.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: CelticsElite on May 12, 2018, 07:03:51 PM
I d play with a broken leg .

You never know this might be you ONE and ONLy chance to be in a finals series ......especially a guy like Larkin , Morris , etc.

Tatum , Irving , Brown will see more .

No, you wouldn't.  And anyone that has ever dislocated or sprained a shoulder can tell you that you wouldn't be playing through that, either
true but shaq diesel played for his last game through a torn Achilles

In the final weeks of the the playoffs, O'Neal, over the objections of team physician Brian McKeon, had "more than five" cortisone shots in his Achilles in an attempt to play against the Heat.

"Doc (McKeon) kept telling me, 'No, no,' but I wanted to play so badly," O'Neal said. "My feeling was, 'If it ruptures, it ruptures.' The Celtics were so good to me I wanted to do everything I could to get back on the court for them."
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Boris Badenov on May 12, 2018, 07:07:19 PM
I d play with a broken leg .

You never know this might be you ONE and ONLy chance to be in a finals series ......especially a guy like Larkin , Morris , etc.

Tatum , Irving , Brown will see more .

No, you wouldn't.  And anyone that has ever dislocated or sprained a shoulder can tell you that you wouldn't be playing through that, either
true but shaq diesel played for his last game through a torn Achilles

In the final weeks of the the playoffs, O'Neal, over the objections of team physician Brian McKeon, had "more than five" cortisone shots in his Achilles in an attempt to play against the Heat.

"Doc (McKeon) kept telling me, 'No, no,' but I wanted to play so badly," O'Neal said. "My feeling was, 'If it ruptures, it ruptures.' The Celtics were so good to me I wanted to do everything I could to get back on the court for them."

Are you **** serious? Did you watch the game? It was pointless for him to even try to play.

He started, ran up the court about twice, came up lame, and tapped out after 3 minutes.

There are some injuries you just can't "play through," and Shaq's last game is a perfect illustration of the point.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: csfansince60s on May 12, 2018, 07:18:25 PM
Any updates on Larkin?
Ruled out for g1-2 and unlikely to play for the rest of the series according to C’s bloggers/writers  on twitter

(Would link if at a computer)

Tp...thanx
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 14, 2018, 05:40:20 PM
He was missed! Terry would have been able to rest a few minutes earlier during garbage time.

That garbage time lineup with Baynes, Monroe, Yabu, Nader, Semi was hilarious  :P

Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: liam on May 14, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
He was missed! Terry would have been able to rest a few minutes earlier during garbage time.

That garbage time lineup with Baynes, Monroe, Yabu, Nader, Semi was hilarious  :P

Monroe was basically the 3rd string point guard.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: CelticsElite on May 18, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
#Celtics Brad Stevens: Shane Larkin did some running today, but had discomfort when catching & swinging ball so he cut practice short. He's progressing but not close to return

https://twitter.com/Scott_Souza/status/997173467131858946
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: CelticsElite on May 20, 2018, 12:47:08 PM
Celtics Stevens said former @MiamiHurricanes PG Shane Larkin "is not ready" to return from shoulder injury. There are a lot of things u need 2 be able 2 do before u get back out on the court, and he’s just not there yet. He’s itching to be there and I appreciate that about him"

Celtics Stevens said Shane Larkin "still can’t do some of the functional stuff that he needs to be able to do." Among other things, there's concern about vulnerability of his shoulder trailing shooters coming off screen

https://twitter.com/bglobesports/status/998208671745216512?s=21

https://twitter.com/sgorten/status/997981383963357184?s=21
https://twitter.com/sgorten/status/997981805566398464?s=21
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: hpantazo on May 20, 2018, 12:59:11 PM
Celtics Stevens said former @MiamiHurricanes PG Shane Larkin "is not ready" to return from shoulder injury. There are a lot of things u need 2 be able 2 do before u get back out on the court, and he’s just not there yet. He’s itching to be there and I appreciate that about him"

Celtics Stevens said Shane Larkin "still can’t do some of the functional stuff that he needs to be able to do." Among other things, there's concern about vulnerability of his shoulder trailing shooters coming off screen

https://twitter.com/bglobesports/status/998208671745216512?s=21

https://twitter.com/sgorten/status/997981383963357184?s=21
https://twitter.com/sgorten/status/997981805566398464?s=21

Also with the Cavs bigger lineups, he likely wouldn't see as many minutes in this series anyway. Let's save him in case we make it to the finals.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: SparzWizard on May 20, 2018, 01:31:56 PM
Might as well list him as out for the remainder of season.
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: CelticsElite on May 25, 2018, 05:59:52 PM
#NEBHInjuryReport: Brad Stevens says of Shane Larkin (left shoulder sprain), “He’s progressing, but I don’t think he’ll be available for this game or for the next.”
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Redz on May 25, 2018, 06:50:49 PM
Gotta be frustrating
Title: Re: Shane Larkins out indefinitely, shoulder "very very sore"
Post by: Celtics4ever on May 25, 2018, 07:11:38 PM
The real shame is that black hole Nader has got to play at the end of games because of this injury.