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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: ederson on May 09, 2018, 10:01:00 AM
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D.Casey
I don't get why ..... Stevens ,Nate McMillan , Quin Snyder did better imho
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Let's be clear that this is the National Basketball Coaches Association’s Coach of the Year & not the NBA Auerbach Trophy for Coach of the Year.
Regardless, it's utterly insane that Stevens didn't receive a single vote but Doc did. You have to imagine that maybe there is some truth to the anti-Stevens bias speculated around the league.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/sports/nba-dwane-casey-raptors-coach-of-the-year.html
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Let's be clear that this is the National Basketball Coaches Association’s Coach of the Year & not the NBA Auerbach Trophy for Coach of the Year.
Regardless, it's utterly insane that Stevens didn't receive a single vote but Doc did. You have to imagine that maybe there is some truth to the anti-Stevens bias speculated around the league.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/sports/nba-dwane-casey-raptors-coach-of-the-year.html
That is probably the single most hilariously stupid thing regarding coaching I've ever read on here
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Let's be clear that this is the National Basketball Coaches Association’s Coach of the Year & not the NBA Auerbach Trophy for Coach of the Year.
Regardless, it's utterly insane that Stevens didn't receive a single vote but Doc did. You have to imagine that maybe there is some truth to the anti-Stevens bias speculated around the league.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/sports/nba-dwane-casey-raptors-coach-of-the-year.html
TBH i think Doc did retty good this season
The zero votes for Stevens is crazy.... Unless eveyone thinks that Celtics even with the injuries are better than we think !
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Let's be clear that this is the National Basketball Coaches Association’s Coach of the Year & not the NBA Auerbach Trophy for Coach of the Year.
Regardless, it's utterly insane that Stevens didn't receive a single vote but Doc did. You have to imagine that maybe there is some truth to the anti-Stevens bias speculated around the league.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/sports/nba-dwane-casey-raptors-coach-of-the-year.html
TBH i think Doc did retty good this season
The zero votes for Stevens is crazy.... Unless eveyone thinks that Celtics even with the injuries are better than we think !
Clippers missed the playoffs & barely cracked .500.
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Let's be clear that this is the National Basketball Coaches Association’s Coach of the Year & not the NBA Auerbach Trophy for Coach of the Year.
Regardless, it's utterly insane that Stevens didn't receive a single vote but Doc did. You have to imagine that maybe there is some truth to the anti-Stevens bias speculated around the league.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/sports/nba-dwane-casey-raptors-coach-of-the-year.html
A link with the votes would be much appreciated.
I think the problem of Stevens (as well as Kerr) is that although everyone knows he is very good, he doesn't have a narrative to support him: he did great this year just like he did last year. Seniority might also play a role, as NBA coaches is a very closed elite.
Still not getting a single vote is weird.
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Casey might even get fired...ridiculous
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I know but that roster is mess (thanks to Doc the GM of course) and still managed to win 42 games.
I am not saying he should win but one vote seems reasonable
According to Stein, the other seven coaches to receive votes were Philadelphia’s Brett Brown, Houston’s Mike D’Antoni, Indiana’s Nate McMillan, San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Utah’s Quin Snyder, Portland’s Terry Stotts, and the Los Angeles Clippers’ Doc Rivers.
https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/9/17335294/dwane-casey-nba-coach-of-the-year-still-might-get-fired
Casey might even get fired...ridiculous
I think they vote based on the Reg.Season If the playoffs were taken into consideration then this is even crazier!
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Can't find the actual vote breakdown. Even the NBA Coaches site doesn't show the vote breakdown.
https://nbacoaches.com/dwane-casey-michael-goldberg-coach-of-the-year-award/
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Wow, not even one single vote for Stevens by his peers? I have to imagine Stevens is a bit stung by that.
And on top of that Casey winning the award is a bit of a joke. There were at least half a dozen coaches who had more impressive accomplishments this season.
Apparently the NBA coaches have agendas just like the media. There's no way a group of 30 supposedly intelligent people actually think Casey was the best coach this season. That's ludicrous.
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I guess the only way Stevens wins it is if he is able to reach 74 wins next year with [hopefully] a healthy roster. Casey was a'ight this year, but they won just four more games than the completely depleted Celtics. If Hayward and Irving were healthy the entire year while DeRozan and Lowry had major injury problems, I'd like to believe the difference in the standings would have been much greater.
With Stevens getting zero votes, we probably shouldn't get our hopes up about him winning the actual COTY award.
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Coaches are competitive, we've seen posters here complain about how Stevens is over-praised.
I imagine in coaching circles its even worse with professional jealousy coming into play. Especially when you consider the amount of lottery talent the roster has to work with. I remember some rumblings about Kerr as well, especially when he was on medical leave for his back.
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Coaches are competitive, we've seen posters here complain about how Stevens is over-praised.
I imagine in coaching circles its even worse with professional jealousy coming into play. Especially when you consider the amount of lottery talent the roster has to work with. I remember some rumblings about Kerr as well, especially when he was on medical leave for his back.
Absolutely. You have to think that is coming into play here.
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Well guys prepare to freak out when he wins the actual coach of the year award, because its very possible. Its either gonna be him or Stevens.
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I know but that roster is mess (thanks to Doc the GM of course) and still managed to win 42 games.
I am not saying he should win but one vote seems reasonable
According to Stein, the other seven coaches to receive votes were Philadelphia’s Brett Brown, Houston’s Mike D’Antoni, Indiana’s Nate McMillan, San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Utah’s Quin Snyder, Portland’s Terry Stotts, and the Los Angeles Clippers’ Doc Rivers.
https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/9/17335294/dwane-casey-nba-coach-of-the-year-still-might-get-fired
Casey might even get fired...ridiculous
I think they vote based on the Reg.Season If the playoffs were taken into consideration then this is even crazier!
I can understand some of the votes.
Popovich is a beloved legend.
D'Antoni had the best record.
McMillan, Snyder and Stotts outperformed expectations.
And I guess Casey did, too, but to a lesser degree. He adjusted to a more modern system and was a #1 seed.
Nothing against Brown or Rivers, but I can't imagine why anyone would vote for them over the coaches listed above or Stevens.
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They don't like Stevens because he is way younger than them and coaching circles around them.
In other shocking news some NFL teams don't like the Patriots
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I'm not mad that CBS didn't win it (honestly, there were many worthy candidates this year).
BUT... How the hell does Stevens not get one vote while Doc Rivers gets one??? ???
Good grief...
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Sorry, but...
Why does Casey get such praise for updating their system to one that works in today's game.... after everyone else? What a great innovator - he started playing modern basketball. Please. He took a team that finished third in the east last year and bowed out of the playoffs and transformed them into a team that took more threes, finished first in the east and got swept.
What am I missing?
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What am I missing?
That NBA players, especially all-stars, are prideful people and often do not listen to their coaches when it comes to playing a different way for the team. Getting Lowry/DeRozen to move the rock is not nothing.
Also getting the bench full of rookies and first time rotation players to be an elite bench unit was also impressive.
Of course he then laid a massive egg and got swept, so he probably had the best year of his career and also proved that he's not a great coach. I did not like his game plan and adjustments against the Cavs.
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CBS getting disrespected? I can’t understand how he has no vote
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Brings to mind Van Morrison song from his Hymns to the Silence Album:
“Professional Jealousy”
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Jealous much rest of the league? Just absurd.
https://www.usnews.com/news/sports/articles/2018-05-09/raptors-dwane-casey-voted-by-peers-as-nba-coach-of-the-year?src=usn_fb
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They don't like Stevens because he is way younger than them and coaching circles around them.
Younger and, on top of that, he's not an NBA guy. He never played in the league and never assisted for anyone else in the league before being handed the big job. Start there and add into it the (deserved) praise he's gotten, I can see how other coaches might think he hasn't paid his dues or something.
Regardless, his getting no votes is idiocy.
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Hopefully this makes its way to the locker room and the players feel the same as we do.
There is clear bias and until today I’ve never even heard of this award, so I can’t really care that he didn’t win. Does the media vote for CotY? Maybe he has a better shot at it but after not winning with the unexpected best record in the East last season or winning more games this year with an oftentimes depleted roster, I think it’s going to take a mega-season to finally give it to him.
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They don't like Stevens because he is way younger than them and coaching circles around them.
Younger and, on top of that, he's not an NBA guy. He never played in the league and never assisted for anyone else in the league before being handed the big job. Start there and add into it the (deserved) praise he's gotten, I can see how other coaches might think he hasn't paid his dues or something.
Regardless, his getting no votes is idiocy.
Think you nailed it: He's not one of us, he didn't go through the normal NBA coaching ranks.
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Wait... this isn't the OFFICIAL COTY award? Just for NBCA??
WHEW. Still a chance ;D
(At least please give Brad some votes...)
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Wait... this isn't the OFFICIAL COTY award? Just for NBCA??
WHEW. Still a chance ;D
(At least please give Brad some votes...)
I think this a bigger deal than coty..
Only coaches vote and none thought that BS did good job. Pop got votes cause the spurs didn't explode without KL but Stevens was supposed to get 2nd seed without Hayward and Irving missing 20 games?
I really don't think is homerism believing that BS was among the top5 coaches this season
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Here’s some math for you: right now there are 26 coaches who didn’t vote for Brad Stevens sitting at home watching the NBA playoffs on TV.
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Other coaches must be pretty jealous of the boy wonder....
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I would have voted for Brad but I don't think anyone is vindictive toward him. Coaches only get one vote (they aren't picking their top 3) and there was a deep pool this year.
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Can coaches vote for themselves? I am wondering who would have voted for Doc? He had a good year based on his situation but coach of the year?
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I would have voted for Brad but I don't think anyone is vindictive toward him. Coaches only get one vote (they aren't picking their top 3) and there was a deep pool this year.
I definitely think there is an element of vindictiveness. Coaches are a pretty petty and egotistical bunch
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Dwane Casey was just fired.
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I don't think all of it is petty jealousy towards Brad (some of it is I'm sure)...I think most of them realize what Boston has built and how it's going to hit the NBA and that they're going to have to endure a decade plus of Celtics accolades and praise for Boston and Brad Stevens and aren't eager to get there yet. So they rationalize it with: he's young and has plenty of time and opportunities to get plenty of awards.
Bill Belichick has only won COY three times...Bruce Arians has won it twice. Sure
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Dwane Casey was just fired.
lol
It's weird. I feel both that he was good enough to deserve a coach of the year award and also I think they need someone new leading that team if they ever want to get out from under the specter of Lebron. Either the players have to change or bring in someone who can drill a little mental toughness into these guys.
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Apparently, the Coaches vote is the kiss of death...so glad that Brad didn't get a single vote now! :)
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and the 2017-18 NBA Coaches Association Coach of the Year is ......
....FIRED. :P
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I just heard the conspiracy theory that a lot of coaches voted for Casey because they thought he was at risk of getting fired and thought that giving him this award would make it more difficult for Toronto to give him the ax (in addition to him being a very good coach who was deserving of consideration, of course).
This makes a lot of sense to me and could explain a couple of coaches who might have been torn between Casey and Stevens and would have gone with Stevens otherwise.
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Zach Lowe/Howard Beck talked about that and it makes some sense. Though also Casey was a fine candidate for it, its a regular season award after all.
The timing of the award being announced was definitely trying to help Casey imo.
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I honestly never thought Casey was a good candidate for the award, at least not this year. Not with the job McMillan did, or Stotts did, or Snyder, or even Bret Brown. Not to mention Stevens, Pop, D'Antoni, and their usual great jobs. Casey is a good coach, but the Raptors were the healthiest team in the league. They have been a 50 win team for years and had Ibaka all season long. I think just about any decent coach would have had them in the upper 50's in wins.