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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: KG Living Legend on April 29, 2018, 05:30:17 PM
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Well it's been a long time coming, but with our young upstart team and Philly's young juggernaut stepping into contention, it looks like the famed Sixer/Celtic rivalry is back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/76ers%E2%80%93Celtics_rivalry
This is the 20th time we'll be facing off in the playoffs. Boston has won 12 of them so far.
This will be the most heated playoff series for the Celtics in years. There were a lot of people taking bad about the sixers process including me at times, although I generally enjoyed watching the journey.
I have the Celtics in seven, and my second pick is the sixers in seven. Let's get it on.
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I have some BREAKING NEWS
This urgent fax has just been sent out to the world.
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My sources are telling me that in light of the re-ignition of the Sixers/Celtics rivalry, LarBrd33 is coming out of CelticsBlog retirement on a temporary 60 day contract.
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I have some BREAKING NEWS
This urgent fax has just been sent out to the world.
(https://i.imgur.com/4YTJ2Os.jpg)
My sources are telling me that in light of the re-ignition of the Sixers/Celtics rivalry, LarBrd33 is coming out of CelticsBlog retirement on a temporary 60 day contract.
https://streamable.com/ldpad
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L M F A O - the prodigal son has returned! ;D TP, sirs.
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Meh. Will be an interesting series to watch, but hard to call this a "Re-ignition" when we're playing with half a team.
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Haha welcome back!
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Yes!!! Welcome back man. Your spirit lived on with me.
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Yes!!! Welcome back man. Your spirit lived on with me.
For anyone that didn't watch this it's good for a chuckle.
https://streamable.com/ldpad
Tps all the way around fellas! This is so awesome and the series Ive been dreaming about.
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lol
Nice.
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I have some BREAKING NEWS
This urgent fax has just been sent out to the world.
(https://i.imgur.com/4YTJ2Os.jpg)
My sources are telling me that in light of the re-ignition of the Sixers/Celtics rivalry, LarBrd33 is coming out of CelticsBlog retirement on a temporary 60 day contract.
https://streamable.com/ldpad
I had visions of this day. I had ventured beyond the wall and witnessed the looming threat in my dreams. My warnings were ridiculed and mocked. Proclamations of playoffs and fear-mongering of future phenoms were met with laughter. Too risky, they said. A “losing culture”. The ends would not justify the means, they smirked. Too injured…
And yet, here we are on the precipice of a renewed rivalry. They bellow outside our gates sooner than anyone expected. The Giant and the Gifted. Two young Superstars and a powerful supporting cast. The Sixers have risen.
I warned of this.
They have won 20 of their last 21 games. They have ripped through the league laying waste to everything in their path. Since January 1, 2018, they have the best record in the entire Eastern Conference (35-11). Embiid and Ben Simmons were both Top 15 players statistically this season. Vegas now has the 76ers as favorites to win the East. As Bill Simmons said on his recent podcast, they are by far the most talented team in the Conference.
Meanwhile, our hobbled team had only been the 5th best team in the East since January. With much ado made of our culture, continuity and experience, we ironically flipped the entire roster over the Summer and in the past two games relied heavily on 4 young players with essentially no relevant playoff experience prior to the series. With much ado made of Philly’s injury concerns, ironically our two best players (Hayward and Kyrie) played less games combined than Joel Embiid. In your hubris, many of you neglected to realize that no team is immune to the wicked whimsy of Mother Basketball.
When our two teams both set out to tank in 2013-14, I knew this was a possibility. It’s been less than 5 years since Philly handed over the reigns to Sam Hinkie and signed off on his multi-year “process”. His first significant trade trade (moving Jrue Holiday) can now be seen for the resounding success it was. In return, they have Super Dario Saric, Richaun Holmes, multiple 2nd round picks and the restored rights to a 1st round pick they owed Orlando. More importantly, the move (punting on the present for long-term assets) put them in a position to bottom out for Joel Embiid in the 2014 Draft. Three straight years of tanking net them prizes of Embiid (2014), Okafor (2015) and Simmons (2016). Statistically, having three Top 6 picks gave them an 83.5% chance of netting an all-star. They struck gold on 2 out of 3. Hinkie’s plan fulfilled. He became a martyr in death, but his legacy remains.
Now, 5 years into his 3-5 year plan, the Sixers have accomplished something they had only done once since 1990 (and twice in the past 30 years) - win 50+ games. While teams like the Knicks, Nuggests, Lakers, Magic, Suns and Kings continue to suffer through 5+ year playoff droughts, the Sixers have returned triumphantly. While teams like the Pistons, Timberwolves, Kings, Hornets and Bucks have gone over a decade without a playoff series win, the Goliath 76ers made quick work of their 1st round opponent.
How each team got to this point will not be remembered.
The Sixers have returned. They are mighty. My fears have been justified.
Chamberlain vs Russell. Dr. J vs Bird. Our glorious history of hate coloring the latest chapter in this blood feud. Tomorrow, we embark on Round 1 of the modern 76ers/Celtics rivalry. Our young upstart Celtics, beaten, bruised, and severely undermanned, could very well be embarrassed by this budding juggernaut. It’s all-hands on deck, Gentlemen. And so, I have temporarily returned to join you in this great fight. You can never count out a team built on Celtic pride. We will not go quietly. We will not quit. We will give Philadelphia Hell.
And yes, I realize I am potentially tarnishing my own glorious legacy by returning ala-Wizards era Jordan. As you may know, I retired out on top with a perfectly fitting 1776 Tommy Points:
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/9r1z81.jpg)
But alas, the rebirth of this rivalry is too much to ignore. I’m sure Eddie and the rest of my fans have many questions for me. What’s it like being so right? How does it feel to be a viral sensation to the thousands and thoouuusands of Redditors around the world? How do I feel about the insufferably slow barren wasteland this forum became in absence of my luminous home dingers? - etc… and I’d be happy to answer your queries in good time.
Bring on Philly/Boston. Round 1 may very well go to the 76ers. Assuming Hayward and Kyrie come back next season, we might strike back. Granted, Philly has plentiful trade assets and tons of cap space to potentially add two superstars this Summer to an already dominant looking young team. It's going to be very interesting to see where this goes.
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Here’s when we drafted jaylen brown lol ;D
(https://image.ibb.co/duDBWx/31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg)
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
(http://4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg" alt="31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_)
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
oh for sure. I’m pretty sure I hated the jaylen brown pick just like you did.
I’m going to go ahead and guess you have changed your mind since? ;D
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
(http://4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg" alt="31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_)
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
oh for sure. I’m pretty sure I hated the jaylen brown pick just like you did.
I’m going to go ahead and guess you have changed your mind since? ;D
I didn't hate the Jaylen Brown pick. I was one of the first to just throw my hands up and say "... whatever, I trust Ainge".
I repeatedly told people I don't follow College basketball. I had hear Brown was a "poor man's Justice Winslow"... Just repeating what my bubble tea guy had told me. Now, look... I respect the hell out of my bubble tea guy. He knows his stuff. But in this instance, he seemed to be overrating Winslow's potential (something Ainge did around that time as well). Click a few pages later in that thread and you'll see me say:
Hey if ainge likes jaylen Brown more than Noel + Covington + two late 1sts, he must be pretty special.
So I'm cool with it. Looking forward to the next few years of waiting to see him take a leap.
I don't bother with college basketball but here is what I love about jaylen brown - he's 19 years old and over 6'4.
Really didn't want to draft an old man guard.
most of the stuff you read heading into the draft is nonsense. The Dunn as consensus 3rd best player narrative happened out of nowhere. A week ago it was established that it was a crap shoot.
About Brown:
hes got some size and he's 19. I'm happy with it. I heard he's a poor man's Winslow. Ainge obviously wanted a guy like that.
I really didn't want to take some 23 year old 6'3 player. We are good on little guys.
I was also one of the first to say the kid could end up better than Jimmy Butler if developed properly. I felt he had a far better future having been drafted onto a winning team than being selected by a bottomfeeder where he'd learn bad habits. He's been pretty good. I'm still happy with the pick.
But let's not sling mud at ol larbrd here... Let's keep the focus on this renewed Sixer/Celtic rivalry and how wonderful it is that I've blessed this forum with my semi un-retirement.
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
(http://4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg" alt="31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_)
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
I don't think so. IT has his health issues and holidays looked great in the first round
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But alas, the rebirth of this rivalry is too much to ignore. I’m sure Eddie and the rest of my fans have many questions for me. What’s it like being so right? How does it feel to be a viral sensation to the thousands and thoouuusands of Redditors around the world? How do I feel about the insufferably slow barren wasteland this forum became in absence of my luminous home dingers? - etc… and I’d be happy to answer your queries in good time.
Ahahaha ;D. Even for you, this is too much, lol ;D #Epic.
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
(http://4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg" alt="31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_)
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
I don't think so. IT has his health issues and holidays looked great in the first round
Oh [dang], I guess I was right on that one too. Shucks.
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LB you thinking of becoming a moderator here?
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
(http://4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg" alt="31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_)
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
oh for sure. I’m pretty sure I hated the jaylen brown pick just like you did.
I’m going to go ahead and guess you have changed your mind since? ;D
I didn't hate the Jaylen Brown pick. I was one of the first to just throw my hands up and say "... whatever, I trust Ainge".
I repeatedly told people I don't follow College basketball. I had hear Brown was a "poor man's Justice Winslow"... Just repeating what my bubble tea guy had told me. Now, look... I respect the hell out of my bubble tea guy. He knows his stuff. But in this instance, he seemed to be overrating Winslow's potential (something Ainge did around that time as well). Click a few pages later in that thread and you'll see me say:
Hey if ainge likes jaylen Brown more than Noel + Covington + two late 1sts, he must be pretty special.
So I'm cool with it. Looking forward to the next few years of waiting to see him take a leap.
I don't bother with college basketball but here is what I love about jaylen brown - he's 19 years old and over 6'4.
Really didn't want to draft an old man guard.
most of the stuff you read heading into the draft is nonsense. The Dunn as consensus 3rd best player narrative happened out of nowhere. A week ago it was established that it was a crap shoot.
About Brown:
hes got some size and he's 19. I'm happy with it. I heard he's a poor man's Winslow. Ainge obviously wanted a guy like that.
I really didn't want to take some 23 year old 6'3 player. We are good on little guys.
I was also one of the first to say the kid could end up better than Jimmy Butler if developed properly. I felt he had a far better future having been drafted onto a winning team than being selected by a bottomfeeder where he'd learn bad habits. He's been pretty good. I'm still happy with the pick.
But let's not sling mud at ol larbrd here... Let's keep the focus on this renewed Sixer/Celtic rivalry and how wonderful it is that I've blessed this forum with my semi un-retirement.
Welcome back....question for you...how many times did you lurk here during your retirement?
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
(http://4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg" alt="31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_)
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
I don't think so. IT has his health issues and holidays looked great in the first round
Oh [dang], I guess I was right on that one too. Shucks.
Still think we should give up 3rd pick (I.e. Jaylen Brown) for Okafor?
Welcome back, LB.
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LB you thinking of becoming a moderator here?
You kidding? Me... a moderator? I'll be lucky to last the full 60 day temporary un-retirement without a "ban LarBrd" campaign sprouting up again.
Just a friendly reminder, if anyone wants the instructions for how to put me on your ignore list, just send me a PM.
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
(http://4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg" alt="31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_)
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
oh for sure. I’m pretty sure I hated the jaylen brown pick just like you did.
I’m going to go ahead and guess you have changed your mind since? ;D
I didn't hate the Jaylen Brown pick. I was one of the first to just throw my hands up and say "... whatever, I trust Ainge".
I repeatedly told people I don't follow College basketball. I had hear Brown was a "poor man's Justice Winslow"... Just repeating what my bubble tea guy had told me. Now, look... I respect the hell out of my bubble tea guy. He knows his stuff. But in this instance, he seemed to be overrating Winslow's potential (something Ainge did around that time as well). Click a few pages later in that thread and you'll see me say:
Hey if ainge likes jaylen Brown more than Noel + Covington + two late 1sts, he must be pretty special.
So I'm cool with it. Looking forward to the next few years of waiting to see him take a leap.
I don't bother with college basketball but here is what I love about jaylen brown - he's 19 years old and over 6'4.
Really didn't want to draft an old man guard.
most of the stuff you read heading into the draft is nonsense. The Dunn as consensus 3rd best player narrative happened out of nowhere. A week ago it was established that it was a crap shoot.
About Brown:
hes got some size and he's 19. I'm happy with it. I heard he's a poor man's Winslow. Ainge obviously wanted a guy like that.
I really didn't want to take some 23 year old 6'3 player. We are good on little guys.
I was also one of the first to say the kid could end up better than Jimmy Butler if developed properly. I felt he had a far better future having been drafted onto a winning team than being selected by a bottomfeeder where he'd learn bad habits. He's been pretty good. I'm still happy with the pick.
But let's not sling mud at ol larbrd here... Let's keep the focus on this renewed Sixer/Celtic rivalry and how wonderful it is that I've blessed this forum with my semi un-retirement.
Welcome back....question for you...how many times did you lurk here during your retirement?
I've kept in touch with some folks who PM me. So if you've seen me lurking over the past year, it's probably because I was responding to them.
What'd I miss?
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LB you thinking of becoming a moderator here?
You kidding? Me... a moderator? I'll be lucky to last the full 60 day temporary un-retirement without a "ban LarBrd" campaign sprouting up again.
Just a friendly reminder, if anyone wants the instructions for how to put me on your ignore list, just send me a PM.
I've heard whispers you are in condsideration
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
(http://4_FE6_BD82_0_D223_A202_EAF.jpg" alt="31_E5874_E_80_AA_4_FE6_BD82_0_)
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
I don't think so. IT has his health issues and holidays looked great in the first round
Oh [dang], I guess I was right on that one too. Shucks.
Still think we should give up 3rd pick (I.e. Jaylen Brown) for Okafor?
Welcome back, LB.
Danny Ainge is my hero, but I think there's two (maybe three) clear instances where you could say "sometimes the best move is the one you don't make".
#1 - The Charlotte trade where we reportedly offered up 4 first round picks to trade up for Winslow in the 2015 draft. Have you done the math on that recently? Several reports have said at least one Brooklyn pick was included. Zach Lowe, Bill Simmons and others have said it was the 2016 Brooklyn 1st. That made people cringe at the time and some fans in denial convinced themselves it was actually the 2017 Brooklyn 1st - until they saw that pick end up even better and reluctantly agreed it was the 2016 Brooklyn 1st. The other picks in the offer had to have included #16 and #28 that year + one other pick (probably some protected 1st like the Clippers)... So we're talking #16 (Rozier), #28 (Hunter - bust) and the Jaylen Brown pick. Woof. Glad that didn't happen.
#2 - Trade deadline 2015, Bulpett said we had offered a "package" built around the 2016 1st for Jahlil Okafor and the 76ers turned us down. You can semi understand their logic there. Sixers were getting a ton of heat at the time and it wouldn't have played well for them to dump a rookie averaging 17 and 7 for another "future pick". But ooof... Sixers blew that one. They ended up getting nothing for Okafor. Looks like the kid just hasn't developed. Might never develop. Gotta say, me and Danny were wrong on that one. Glad Philly turned us down.
#3 - The offers were reportedly made for Paul George at the middle of last season... sounds like it would have been a massive offer that would have included the 2017 pick. I'm pretty happy with Tatum right now. Glad we have that kid.
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The world has not made sense following the trade dump of a great Bostonian hero and related acquisition of a[n individual] with the worst case of discomfort I've ever seen.
Until now.
Thank you, Hinkie, for reprieve during a cold and bleak winter. And dearest LarBrd, I'm honored to have been likened to you at several points during your hiatus. Let the keys be your palette, and the threads your Sistine Chapel.
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To tars. Thank you
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Clay/Tars, I've missed you both. I didn't want you to suffer through Philly potentially sweeping us without me by your side.
We die together, brothers.
(https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2017/08/18/got/got-706-18.w710.h473.jpg)
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Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Morris
Covington vs Tatum
Reddick vs Smart
Simmons vs Rozier
76ers group of giant white shooters have been on fire. Bellineli, Illyisova, Reddick, Saric and throw in Covington and that's a lot of good shooting to deal with.
Celtics hopefully counter with a healthy Jaylen Brown and newly discovered lock down defender the Nigerian nightmare Semi, and Of course big d Baynes.
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Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Morris
Covington vs Tatum
Reddick vs Smart
Simmons vs Rozier
76ers group of giant white shooters have been on fire. Bellineli, Illyisova, Reddick, Saric and throw in Covington and that's a lot of good shooting to deal with.
Celtics hopefully counter with a healthy Jaylen Brown and newly discovered lock down defender the Nigerian nightmare Semi, and Of course big d Baynes.
Merely an overture prior to the epic multi-year opera that will potentially be:
Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Tatum
LeBron vs Hayward
Kawhi vs Brown
Simmons vs Kyrie
... I have a genuine fear that Philly offers up a package of Covington + #10 + Fultz for Kawhi Leonard this Summer and uses the cap space to add LeBron.
I said over a year ago that Philly was a wildcard Bron destination contingent on Embiid/Simmons getting healthy, those two living up to expectations, and the team flirting with the playoffs. I was laughed at. It doesn't seem so far-fetched now.
This rivalry is just beginning.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
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Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Morris
Covington vs Tatum
Reddick vs Smart
Simmons vs Rozier
76ers group of giant white shooters have been on fire. Bellineli, Illyisova, Reddick, Saric and throw in Covington and that's a lot of good shooting to deal with.
Celtics hopefully counter with a healthy Jaylen Brown and newly discovered lock down defender the Nigerian nightmare Semi, and Of course big d Baynes.
Merely an overture prior to the epic multi-year opera that will potentially be:
Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Tatum
LeBron vs Hayward
Kawhi vs Brown
Simmons vs Kyrie
... I have a genuine fear that Philly offers up a package of Covington + #10 + Fultz for Kawhi Leonard this Summer and uses the cap space to add LeBron.
I said over a year ago that Philly was a wildcard Bron destination contingent on Embiid/Simmons getting healthy, those two living up to expectations, and the team flirting with the playoffs. I was laughed at. It doesn't seem so far-fetched now.
This rivalry is just beginning.
Thank God Embiid appears to be content with the current roster and presumably doesn't want LeBron to join the team. I applaud embiid for actually being a man I'm sure the front office would take LeBron though.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
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Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Morris
Covington vs Tatum
Reddick vs Smart
Simmons vs Rozier
76ers group of giant white shooters have been on fire. Bellineli, Illyisova, Reddick, Saric and throw in Covington and that's a lot of good shooting to deal with.
Celtics hopefully counter with a healthy Jaylen Brown and newly discovered lock down defender the Nigerian nightmare Semi, and Of course big d Baynes.
Merely an overture prior to the epic multi-year opera that will potentially be:
Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Tatum
LeBron vs Hayward
Kawhi vs Brown
Simmons vs Kyrie
... I have a genuine fear that Philly offers up a package of Covington + #10 + Fultz for Kawhi Leonard this Summer and uses the cap space to add LeBron.
I said over a year ago that Philly was a wildcard Bron destination contingent on Embiid/Simmons getting healthy, those two living up to expectations, and the team flirting with the playoffs. I was laughed at. It doesn't seem so far-fetched now.
This rivalry is just beginning.
I dont think SA is going to bite. They are going to get a lot more offers.
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Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Morris
Covington vs Tatum
Reddick vs Smart
Simmons vs Rozier
76ers group of giant white shooters have been on fire. Bellineli, Illyisova, Reddick, Saric and throw in Covington and that's a lot of good shooting to deal with.
Celtics hopefully counter with a healthy Jaylen Brown and newly discovered lock down defender the Nigerian nightmare Semi, and Of course big d Baynes.
Merely an overture prior to the epic multi-year opera that will potentially be:
Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Tatum
LeBron vs Hayward
Kawhi vs Brown
Simmons vs Kyrie
... I have a genuine fear that Philly offers up a package of Covington + #10 + Fultz for Kawhi Leonard this Summer and uses the cap space to add LeBron.
I said over a year ago that Philly was a wildcard Bron destination contingent on Embiid/Simmons getting healthy, those two living up to expectations, and the team flirting with the playoffs. I was laughed at. It doesn't seem so far-fetched now.
This rivalry is just beginning.
I dont think SA is going to bite. They are going to get a lot more offers.
This is where I'm at. San Antonio will definitely get better offers than that. Philly would have to add Saric to get their offer heard
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Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Morris
Covington vs Tatum
Reddick vs Smart
Simmons vs Rozier
76ers group of giant white shooters have been on fire. Bellineli, Illyisova, Reddick, Saric and throw in Covington and that's a lot of good shooting to deal with.
Celtics hopefully counter with a healthy Jaylen Brown and newly discovered lock down defender the Nigerian nightmare Semi, and Of course big d Baynes.
Merely an overture prior to the epic multi-year opera that will potentially be:
Embiid vs Horford
Saric vs Tatum
LeBron vs Hayward
Kawhi vs Brown
Simmons vs Kyrie
... I have a genuine fear that Philly offers up a package of Covington + #10 + Fultz for Kawhi Leonard this Summer and uses the cap space to add LeBron.
I said over a year ago that Philly was a wildcard Bron destination contingent on Embiid/Simmons getting healthy, those two living up to expectations, and the team flirting with the playoffs. I was laughed at. It doesn't seem so far-fetched now.
This rivalry is just beginning.
I dont think SA is going to bite. They are going to get a lot more offers.
Realistically, who is going to offer more than that if Philly hypothetically offered Covington + Fultz + #10?
Few teams can outbid that. The ones that can outbid it might be concerned about taking on Kawhi given the weirdness of his situation this season and contract status. I'm not sure Philly would even need to include Fultz... they might be able to do it with Saric instead. If I'm Boston, I wouldn't be totally comfortable offering up Brown + the necessary salary to take back Kawhi. I sure as heck wouldn't feel comfortable offering up Tatum in a package for him.
Lakers are one team that comes to mind. They can put together a package for Kawhi and still sign Paul George and LeBron.
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What’s it like being so right?
Now, look... I respect the hell out of my bubble tea guy. He knows his stuff.
Glad to see you back. This board hadn't gotten a guffaw out of me in quite some time. Thanks for that. As for your prognostications, let's hope you're wrong and we don't end up locked in as the second-best team in the East for the foreseeable future.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Noel might be a little headcasey, but I'm still intrigued by the possibility of adding his defensive ability. There's a chance he could be our Clint Capela if he can fit in the system.
That dude reportedly turned down a 70 million dollar extension from Dallas, because his agent (Happy Walters) convinced him he could get more on the open market.
It's the same agent that apparently convinced Marcus Smart to turn down our offer over the Summer. This was right after Smart had shot out of his butt for the preseason. Smart had changed his shooting form an inexplicably he was shooting like 60%/50%/80% in his preseason games... my guess is Boston was offering him something in the 3 year 30 mil Andre Roberson territory and Smart was hoping for something in the 4 year 80 mil Gary Harris territory.
Noel and Smart oughta set up a class action lawsuit against Happy Walters. Gonna be super interesting to see what kind offers those guys get this Summer.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
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Meh. Will be an interesting series to watch, but hard to call this a "Re-ignition" when we're playing with half a team.
Like so many of the series that Professor Parquet writes about
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Part of me wonders how high of a draft pick we could get if we put Rozier on the table. Given he wants to start and it's unlikely to happen here... if there's a big man prospect Ainge likes on the board and the team picking would rather get a starting PG, I wonder if a trade can be made. Can't imagine it being a pick in the Bamba range, but who knows. If Ainge gets a little feisty like he did during that botched Winslow offer, he might include the 2019 Kings 1st in an offer. Not unthinkable. I signed my 60 day un-retirement contract so I can be here for the draft.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Part of me wonders how high of a draft pick we could get if we put Rozier on the table. Given he wants to start and it's unlikely to happen here... if there's a big man prospect Ainge likes on the board and the team picking would rather get a starting PG, I wonder if a trade can be made. Can't imagine it being a pick in the Bamba range, but who knows. If Ainge gets a little feisty like he did during that botched Winslow offer, he might include the 2019 Kings 1st in an offer. Who knows. I signed my 60 day un-retirement contract so I can be here for the draft.
I reckon Rozier and our late 20's pick could lob us into the 9-14 range, depending on who is picking where. The question is whether we want to keep Rozier for '18-'19 and go all in on trying to win it that year, and likely lose him in the off-season for nothing, or moving him now for future value.
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If Ainge even hears rumbles that if they Offer up Fultz and Saric for Kawaii then lebron would go there to form a big four of Embiid, Simmons, Kawaii, Lebron.
At that point, does he offer up Irving, to attempt to block the 76ers from destroyong our chances at dominating the east. One can only hope so.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Part of me wonders how high of a draft pick we could get if we put Rozier on the table. Given he wants to start and it's unlikely to happen here... if there's a big man prospect Ainge likes on the board and the team picking would rather get a starting PG, I wonder if a trade can be made. Can't imagine it being a pick in the Bamba range, but who knows. If Ainge gets a little feisty like he did during that botched Winslow offer, he might include the 2019 Kings 1st in an offer. Who knows. I signed my 60 day un-retirement contract so I can be here for the draft.
I reckon Rozier and our late 20's pick could lob us into the 9-14 range, depending on who is picking where. The question is whether we want to keep Rozier for '18-'19 and go all in on trying to win it that year, and likely lose him in the off-season for nothing, or moving him now for future value.
Up-front, I don't follow College basketball at all and don't even know of a reliable mock draft. I know nbadraft.net is nonsense, but they have Mo Bamba going to the Cavs with the #8 pick (via Brooklyn). Crossing my finger that Brooklyn pick doesn't end up top 3, because it would irritate me - but I digress... it wouldn't necessarily blow my mind to see Cleveland (probably on the verge of losing LeBron) trade that pick for Rozier and the Kings 1st. Clearly those two teams have some trade history and I could actually see Rozier starting there in the wake of Bron leaving. They'd presumably move the other vets like George Hill and Kevin Love as well and then tank good and proper for two possible Top 6 picks in 2019 (their own and the Kings 1st).
Nbadraft.net also has some Duke kid named Wendall Carter going in that range that they compare to Al Horford. And again, I don't follow College basketball at all. I know absolutely nothing about Wendall Carter beyond what I literally just saw on that page. But if we're looking for a Horford protege - maybe that kid is a target? Plus he, Kyrie and Tatum can sit around talking about their single seasons at Duke.
I find it very unlikely Rozier + the Kings 1st would fetch a pick that high, though.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
Maybe the basketball gods take care of that one for us.
We have a 3% chance at a top 3 pick this month as long as it doesn't end up being number one.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Yeah ikr, but we've got to roll with what we have. I'm personally hoping to nab a big that falls in the draft and maybe pick up a reclamation project.
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If Ainge even hears rumbles that if they Offer up Fultz and Saric for Kawaii then lebron would go there to form a big four of Embiid, Simmons, Kawaii, Lebron.
At that point, does he offer up Irving, to attempt to block the 76ers from destroyong our chances at dominating the east. One can only hope so.
Simmons Kawhi and Lebron will never prosper.. All love the ball in their hands and there is only one.. Simmons perhaps will be ok scoring less to give way to Bron and Kawhi but seeing Bron camp out of Kawhi camp out waiting for Simmons to pass them the ball seems too impossible for me.. Not to mention Embiid getting less touches as well.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Part of me wonders how high of a draft pick we could get if we put Rozier on the table. Given he wants to start and it's unlikely to happen here... if there's a big man prospect Ainge likes on the board and the team picking would rather get a starting PG, I wonder if a trade can be made. Can't imagine it being a pick in the Bamba range, but who knows. If Ainge gets a little feisty like he did during that botched Winslow offer, he might include the 2019 Kings 1st in an offer. Who knows. I signed my 60 day un-retirement contract so I can be here for the draft.
I reckon Rozier and our late 20's pick could lob us into the 9-14 range, depending on who is picking where. The question is whether we want to keep Rozier for '18-'19 and go all in on trying to win it that year, and likely lose him in the off-season for nothing, or moving him now for future value.
Up-front, I don't follow College basketball at all and don't even know of a reliable mock draft. I know nbadraft.net is nonsense, but they have Mo Bamba going to the Cavs with the #8 pick (via Brooklyn). Crossing my finger that Brooklyn pick doesn't end up top 3, because it would irritate me - but I digress... it wouldn't necessarily blow my mind to see Cleveland (probably on the verge of losing LeBron) trade that pick for Rozier and the Kings 1st. Clearly those two teams have some trade history and I could actually see Rozier starting there in the wake of Bron leaving. They'd presumably move the other vets like George Hill and Kevin Love as well and then tank good and proper for two possible Top 6 picks in 2019 (their own and the Kings 1st).
Nbadraft.net also has some Duke kid named Wendall Carter going in that range that they compare to Al Horford. And again, I don't follow College basketball at all. I know absolutely nothing about Wendall Carter beyond what I literally just saw on that page. But if we're looking for a Horford protege - maybe that kid is a target? Plus he, Kyrie and Tatum can sit around talking about their single seasons at Duke.
I find it very unlikely Rozier + the Kings 1st would fetch a pick that high, though.
It's unlikely we get a pick in his range. He's in the second tier of bigs in this draft aka not top 3, and I don't think teams are willing to trade out of this draft completely given how stacked is the lotto. It's basically Bagley if we get lotto luck or Metu/Robinson/insert any big that falls in the draft with our own pick.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Part of me wonders how high of a draft pick we could get if we put Rozier on the table. Given he wants to start and it's unlikely to happen here... if there's a big man prospect Ainge likes on the board and the team picking would rather get a starting PG, I wonder if a trade can be made. Can't imagine it being a pick in the Bamba range, but who knows. If Ainge gets a little feisty like he did during that botched Winslow offer, he might include the 2019 Kings 1st in an offer. Who knows. I signed my 60 day un-retirement contract so I can be here for the draft.
I reckon Rozier and our late 20's pick could lob us into the 9-14 range, depending on who is picking where. The question is whether we want to keep Rozier for '18-'19 and go all in on trying to win it that year, and likely lose him in the off-season for nothing, or moving him now for future value.
Up-front, I don't follow College basketball at all and don't even know of a reliable mock draft. I know nbadraft.net is nonsense, but they have Mo Bamba going to the Cavs with the #8 pick (via Brooklyn). Crossing my finger that Brooklyn pick doesn't end up top 3, because it would irritate me - but I digress... it wouldn't necessarily blow my mind to see Cleveland (probably on the verge of losing LeBron) trade that pick for Rozier and the Kings 1st. Clearly those two teams have some trade history and I could actually see Rozier starting there in the wake of Bron leaving. They'd presumably move the other vets like George Hill and Kevin Love as well and then tank good and proper for two possible Top 6 picks in 2019 (their own and the Kings 1st).
Nbadraft.net also has some Duke kid named Wendall Carter going in that range that they compare to Al Horford. And again, I don't follow College basketball at all. I know absolutely nothing about Wendall Carter beyond what I literally just saw on that page. But if we're looking for a Horford protege - maybe that kid is a target? Plus he, Kyrie and Tatum can sit around talking about their single seasons at Duke.
I find it very unlikely Rozier + the Kings 1st would fetch a pick that high, though.
It's unlikely we get a pick in his range. He's in the second tier of bigs in this draft aka not top 3, and I don't think teams are willing to trade out of this draft completely given how stacked is the lotto. It's basically Bagley if we get lotto luck or Metu/Robinson/insert any big that falls in the draft with our own pick.
Any bigs in the 10-15 range Ainge might covet? I could see Rozier fetching a pick late lotto.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
We have our pick this year maybe we can trade up using our Clippers or Grizzlies pick too.
We have options. Maybe the ping pong balls will strike too.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Part of me wonders how high of a draft pick we could get if we put Rozier on the table. Given he wants to start and it's unlikely to happen here... if there's a big man prospect Ainge likes on the board and the team picking would rather get a starting PG, I wonder if a trade can be made. Can't imagine it being a pick in the Bamba range, but who knows. If Ainge gets a little feisty like he did during that botched Winslow offer, he might include the 2019 Kings 1st in an offer. Who knows. I signed my 60 day un-retirement contract so I can be here for the draft.
I reckon Rozier and our late 20's pick could lob us into the 9-14 range, depending on who is picking where. The question is whether we want to keep Rozier for '18-'19 and go all in on trying to win it that year, and likely lose him in the off-season for nothing, or moving him now for future value.
Up-front, I don't follow College basketball at all and don't even know of a reliable mock draft. I know nbadraft.net is nonsense, but they have Mo Bamba going to the Cavs with the #8 pick (via Brooklyn). Crossing my finger that Brooklyn pick doesn't end up top 3, because it would irritate me - but I digress... it wouldn't necessarily blow my mind to see Cleveland (probably on the verge of losing LeBron) trade that pick for Rozier and the Kings 1st. Clearly those two teams have some trade history and I could actually see Rozier starting there in the wake of Bron leaving. They'd presumably move the other vets like George Hill and Kevin Love as well and then tank good and proper for two possible Top 6 picks in 2019 (their own and the Kings 1st).
Nbadraft.net also has some Duke kid named Wendall Carter going in that range that they compare to Al Horford. And again, I don't follow College basketball at all. I know absolutely nothing about Wendall Carter beyond what I literally just saw on that page. But if we're looking for a Horford protege - maybe that kid is a target? Plus he, Kyrie and Tatum can sit around talking about their single seasons at Duke.
I find it very unlikely Rozier + the Kings 1st would fetch a pick that high, though.
It's unlikely we get a pick in his range. He's in the second tier of bigs in this draft aka not top 3, and I don't think teams are willing to trade out of this draft completely given how stacked is the lotto. It's basically Bagley if we get lotto luck or Metu/Robinson/insert any big that falls in the draft with our own pick.
Any bigs in the 10-15 range Ainge might covet? I could see Rozier fetching a pick late lotto.
Would you take Okafor if he is going overseas for lack of interest?
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Some good big men in this draft that cold be flipped for Terry.
Out of reach bigs Ayton, Bagley, Jackson, and probably Porter Jr.
Could slip bigs, Bamba, and especially Wendell Carter.
In range bigs we could go get if desired.
Miles Bridges Undersized PF with unreal athleticism and strength he usually disappointed me, but the talent and body are NBA quality.
Kevin Knox. Kentucky's top prospect this year, Not a great rebounder, but has three point range 34% from three. 6'9" with An NBA body and lots of upside.
Robert Williams. Should have came out last year his stock has dropped significantly. Role player Shot blocking and very good rebounding big who is raw with a freakish 7'4" Wingspan. Also 235 pounds NBA body.
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Can we re-visit some classic posts from our friend?
Lol
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I know I whiffed from time to time. For instance, I once argued that a healthy Jrue Holiday was better than Isaiah Thomas. I'm still cleaning the egg off my face on that one ;)
I don't think so. IT has his health issues and holidays looked great in the first round
Oh [dang], I guess I was right on that one too. Shucks.
Still think we should give up 3rd pick (I.e. Jaylen Brown) for Okafor?
Welcome back, LB.
Danny Ainge is my hero, but I think there's two (maybe three) clear instances where you could say "sometimes the best move is the one you don't make".
#1 - The Charlotte trade where we reportedly offered up 4 first round picks to trade up for Winslow in the 2015 draft. Have you done the math on that recently? Several reports have said at least one Brooklyn pick was included. Zach Lowe, Bill Simmons and others have said it was the 2016 Brooklyn 1st. That made people cringe at the time and some fans in denial convinced themselves it was actually the 2017 Brooklyn 1st - until they saw that pick end up even better and reluctantly agreed it was the 2016 Brooklyn 1st. The other picks in the offer had to have included #16 and #28 that year + one other pick (probably some protected 1st like the Clippers)... So we're talking #16 (Rozier), #28 (Hunter - bust) and the Jaylen Brown pick. Woof. Glad that didn't happen.
#2 - Trade deadline 2015, Bulpett said we had offered a "package" built around the 2016 1st for Jahlil Okafor and the 76ers turned us down. You can semi understand their logic there. Sixers were getting a ton of heat at the time and it wouldn't have played well for them to dump a rookie averaging 17 and 7 for another "future pick". But ooof... Sixers blew that one. They ended up getting nothing for Okafor. Looks like the kid just hasn't developed. Might never develop. Gotta say, me and Danny were wrong on that one. Glad Philly turned us down.
#3 - The offers were reportedly made for Paul George at the middle of last season... sounds like it would have been a massive offer that would have included the 2017 pick. I'm pretty happy with Tatum right now. Glad we have that kid.
Don’t want to hear about trade rumors that never happened by Dan Ainge. Makes you sound defensive. And I guess you should be. You have proposed some of the worst trades from a Celtics fan’s perspective that have ever been proposed on this board. You have demonstrated a poor ability to evaluate talent development. You consistently under value Celtic talent and over value Philly’s. Thankfully you’re not Celtics GM.
Drue Holliday better than IT now (due to hip surgery-nice). Put that into blind squirrel category. And wasn’t it your guru Hinkie who traded Holliday away for your fav Noel? Not sure you want to go there.
Who wins more NBA championships next ten years, Boston or Philly?
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Garden will be rockin'!
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I'm not so sure Rozier has 10-15 value, but let's say he does in a vacuum, which teams in that range are going to trade their pick for Rozier? If no one moves up in the lottery these are the teams with picks 10-15
Philadelphia, Charlotte, LA Clippers x2, Denver, and Washington
None of those teams need a PG, especially one with Rozier's skill set.
Now 16 and the Suns might be a decent chance, but if they take Doncic with their own pick, then I think Rozier becomes much less a need.
17 is the Bucks. That is a team that could theoretically use a young PG to take over down the line for Bledsoe. After the Bucks and rounding out the top 20, are the Spurs (unlikely), Hawks (unlikely), and Wolves (possible).
So I'd guess that if Rozier's value is 10-20, then the only realistic landing spots are Milwaukee at 17 and Minnesota at 20, with an outside shot at Phoenix at 16. A bunch of teams in the low 20's make sense, but I just don't see that as enough value for what Rozier can do for the team next year (and frankly I'm not sure 20 would be either).
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Some good big men in this draft that cold be flipped for Terry.
Out of reach bigs Ayton, Bagley, Jackson, and probably Porter Jr.
Could slip bigs, Bamba, and especially Wendell Carter.
In range bigs we could go get if desired.
Miles Bridges Undersized PF with unreal athleticism and strength he usually disappointed me, but the talent and body are NBA quality.
Kevin Knox. Kentucky's top prospect this year, Not a great rebounder, but has three point range 34% from three. 6'9" with An NBA body and lots of upside.
Robert Williams. Should have came out last year his stock has dropped significantly. Role player Shot blocking and very good rebounding big who is raw with a freakish 7'4" Wingspan. Also 235 pounds NBA body.
Alright, I'm sold on Wendell Carter for no other reason than him being 19, getting comparisons to Al Horford, and him likely having hooked up with some of the same coeds this year that Tatum did last season at Duke.
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Part of me wonders how high of a draft pick we could get if we put Rozier on the table. Given he wants to start and it's unlikely to happen here... if there's a big man prospect Ainge likes on the board and the team picking would rather get a starting PG, I wonder if a trade can be made. Can't imagine it being a pick in the Bamba range, but who knows. If Ainge gets a little feisty like he did during that botched Winslow offer, he might include the 2019 Kings 1st in an offer. Who knows. I signed my 60 day un-retirement contract so I can be here for the draft.
I reckon Rozier and our late 20's pick could lob us into the 9-14 range, depending on who is picking where. The question is whether we want to keep Rozier for '18-'19 and go all in on trying to win it that year, and likely lose him in the off-season for nothing, or moving him now for future value.
Up-front, I don't follow College basketball at all and don't even know of a reliable mock draft. I know nbadraft.net is nonsense, but they have Mo Bamba going to the Cavs with the #8 pick (via Brooklyn). Crossing my finger that Brooklyn pick doesn't end up top 3, because it would irritate me - but I digress... it wouldn't necessarily blow my mind to see Cleveland (probably on the verge of losing LeBron) trade that pick for Rozier and the Kings 1st. Clearly those two teams have some trade history and I could actually see Rozier starting there in the wake of Bron leaving. They'd presumably move the other vets like George Hill and Kevin Love as well and then tank good and proper for two possible Top 6 picks in 2019 (their own and the Kings 1st).
Nbadraft.net also has some Duke kid named Wendall Carter going in that range that they compare to Al Horford. And again, I don't follow College basketball at all. I know absolutely nothing about Wendall Carter beyond what I literally just saw on that page. But if we're looking for a Horford protege - maybe that kid is a target? Plus he, Kyrie and Tatum can sit around talking about their single seasons at Duke.
I find it very unlikely Rozier + the Kings 1st would fetch a pick that high, though.
It's unlikely we get a pick in his range. He's in the second tier of bigs in this draft aka not top 3, and I don't think teams are willing to trade out of this draft completely given how stacked is the lotto. It's basically Bagley if we get lotto luck or Metu/Robinson/insert any big that falls in the draft with our own pick.
Any bigs in the 10-15 range Ainge might covet? I could see Rozier fetching a pick late lotto.
Would you take Okafor if he is going overseas for lack of interest?
He's probably not getting more than MLE, right? Part of me still kind of prefers trying out Okafor than keeping Moose just because there's a chance there's still some potential there. But yeah, he sure looks like a massive bust at this point. Danny sure dodged a bullet there when Philly turned down his multiple offers.
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I'm not so sure Rozier has 10-15 value, but let's say he does in a vacuum, which teams in that range are going to trade their pick for Rozier? If no one moves up in the lottery these are the teams with picks 10-15
Philadelphia, Charlotte, LA Clippers x2, Denver, and Washington
None of those teams need a PG, especially one with Rozier's skill set.
Now 16 and the Suns might be a decent chance, but if they take Doncic with their own pick, then I think Rozier becomes much less a need.
17 is the Bucks. That is a team that could theoretically use a young PG to take over down the line for Bledsoe. After the Bucks and rounding out the top 20, are the Spurs (unlikely), Hawks (unlikely), and Wolves (possible).
So I'd guess that if Rozier's value is 10-20, then the only realistic landing spots are Milwaukee at 17 and Minnesota at 20, with an outside shot at Phoenix at 16. A bunch of teams in the low 20's make sense, but I just don't see that as enough value for what Rozier can do for the team next year (and frankly I'm not sure 20 would be either).
I think Danny would wait and trade for the player he wants not just trade for a pick. So, if Danny's player fell into the low 20's he'd make a trade. I feel like trading Rozier at this point has to be for someone Danny sees as a lottery level talent, otherwise it's just a lateral or backwards move.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
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We need to pick a young big with potential fast lol
I think we can grab Okafor or Noel this Summer for one of Kyrie's flat earth pamphlets if we're looking for a young reclamation project. Beyond that, we're looking at like a 2% chance of ending up with the #2 or #3 pick during this year's draft... or we can just hope the Kings are garbage still next season and someone is available in the 2019 draft when we/if that pick conveys to us.
There's still a highly improbable nightmare scenario where the Laker pick defies the odds and ends up #1 in the lotto - conveying to the 76ers. And then next year, the Kings pick ends up #1 - and also conveys to Philly. In which case, we'd be looking at getting Philly's 2019 #25-30 pick.
I am sure both Noel and Okafor would love to come to Boston to reform there value, see Evan Turner. They'd love to follow in those footsteps.
We can probably grab one of them for the MLE, right? Both had worst-case scenario seasons. Hard to imagine anyone offering more than that.
Assuming both would be willing to take the MLE, who would you prefer?
Would Monroe be considered too? Monroe and Noel are (to me at least) far and away better than Okafor
Probably Okafor. I think there were reports on Noel having personality issues. Also @LarBrd we can draft a big with our own 1st in hopes of a Capela like guy, there are some interesting big man prospects in that range like Metu.
Okafor over Monroe and Noel? I'd probably take Monroe over both, but I love Moose.
I'd love to see us move up a bit and take Mitchell Robinson, but I can't see that happening
I'd love Robinson too but I think teams like San Antonio or the Lelkers would pick him, they need a big and are great drafters. Heck Metu may get drafted early too.
If only the Lakers had been slightly worse. Would have loved Mo Bamba on this team. Amazing defender, promising offensive game and seems very clever - him and JB would have gotten along I imagine
Part of me wonders how high of a draft pick we could get if we put Rozier on the table. Given he wants to start and it's unlikely to happen here... if there's a big man prospect Ainge likes on the board and the team picking would rather get a starting PG, I wonder if a trade can be made. Can't imagine it being a pick in the Bamba range, but who knows. If Ainge gets a little feisty like he did during that botched Winslow offer, he might include the 2019 Kings 1st in an offer. Who knows. I signed my 60 day un-retirement contract so I can be here for the draft.
I reckon Rozier and our late 20's pick could lob us into the 9-14 range, depending on who is picking where. The question is whether we want to keep Rozier for '18-'19 and go all in on trying to win it that year, and likely lose him in the off-season for nothing, or moving him now for future value.
Up-front, I don't follow College basketball at all and don't even know of a reliable mock draft. I know nbadraft.net is nonsense, but they have Mo Bamba going to the Cavs with the #8 pick (via Brooklyn). Crossing my finger that Brooklyn pick doesn't end up top 3, because it would irritate me - but I digress... it wouldn't necessarily blow my mind to see Cleveland (probably on the verge of losing LeBron) trade that pick for Rozier and the Kings 1st. Clearly those two teams have some trade history and I could actually see Rozier starting there in the wake of Bron leaving. They'd presumably move the other vets like George Hill and Kevin Love as well and then tank good and proper for two possible Top 6 picks in 2019 (their own and the Kings 1st).
Nbadraft.net also has some Duke kid named Wendall Carter going in that range that they compare to Al Horford. And again, I don't follow College basketball at all. I know absolutely nothing about Wendall Carter beyond what I literally just saw on that page. But if we're looking for a Horford protege - maybe that kid is a target? Plus he, Kyrie and Tatum can sit around talking about their single seasons at Duke.
I find it very unlikely Rozier + the Kings 1st would fetch a pick that high, though.
It's unlikely we get a pick in his range. He's in the second tier of bigs in this draft aka not top 3, and I don't think teams are willing to trade out of this draft completely given how stacked is the lotto. It's basically Bagley if we get lotto luck or Metu/Robinson/insert any big that falls in the draft with our own pick.
Any bigs in the 10-15 range Ainge might covet? I could see Rozier fetching a pick late lotto.
Would you take Okafor if he is going overseas for lack of interest?
He's probably not getting more than MLE, right? Part of me still kind of prefers trying out Okafor than keeping Moose just because there's a chance there's still some potential there. But yeah, he sure looks like a massive bust at this point. Danny sure dodged a bullet there when Philly turned down his multiple offers.
I would be absolutely shocked if he got the MLE. The 76ers had to pay a second round pick just to get rid of him. He couldn't get on the floor in Brooklyn despite them having a very mediocre collection of bigs. How does he get more than the minimum at this point?
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Lol. So true. Does this happen on other forums? I read the Cavs and liberty ballers forums sometime and have never noticed them having hardcore supporters of other teams that are always there. We used to have a second Philly fan but I think he left or stopped posting after making some horrible Len Bias jokes.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
Or just not having two all stars and a starter injured. We would be overwhelming favorites to win the east with homecourt advantage and our full team healthy. Really frustrating.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Lol. So true. Does this happen on other forums? I read the Cavs and liberty ballers forums sometime and have never noticed them having hardcore supporters of other teams that are always there. We used to have a second Philly fan but I think he left or stopped posting after making some horrible Len Bias jokes.
Boston and Philly are just linked because of their historic rivalry and the fact that both teams set out to tank in 2013-14 with the goal of getting back to contention in 3-5 years. Now here we are around the 5 year mark and both teams are butting heads in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Both teams are currently relying heavily on guys with limited playoff experience. Neither team looked anything like their current iterations last season. The records are pretty even. They are the two major candidates to run this conference for the next 10 years. Can't help but discuss each other. I see philly forums whining about Boston all the time - especially Tatum (because of the Fultz trade) and Brown (because of the Noel/Okafor trades they turned down that would have net them Brown).
Lakers might be resurrected next season as well based on their intriguing young talent and mountains of cap space.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
Or just not having two all stars and a starter injured. We would be overwhelming favorites to win the east with homecourt advantage and our full team healthy. Really frustrating.
I agree it's frustrating. You take the two best players off every other playoff team and it's doubtful any of them could hang with this injury-riddled Boston team.
Cleveland without LeBron and Love is garbage
Philly without Embiid and Simmons is garbage
Utah without Mitchell and Gobert is garbage
Houston without Harden and Paul is garbage
New Orleans without Davis and Holiday is garbage
Toronto without Lowry and Derozan is garbage
The only team that might still be decent without their two best players is the historically stacked Golden State Globetrotter squad. Even without Durant and Curry, they'd probably be pretty decent with just Klay and Draymond.
So credit to Boston for even winning a playoff series without Kyrie and Hayward. It's a shame, because the East is wide open and we could realistically threaten for a trip to the Finals with those guys healthy.
I still think Philly would be a problem, regardless. That team is super talented and playing incredible basketball together right now. Superstar talent gonna superstar.
I'd like to say that next year, if healthy, we'll be the favorites again... but I'm not so sure. Philly's options this SUmmer still terrify me.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
Or just not having two all stars and a starter injured. We would be overwhelming favorites to win the east with homecourt advantage and our full team healthy. Really frustrating.
I agree it's frustrating. You take the two best players off every other playoff team and it's doubtful any of them could hang with this injury-riddled Boston team.
Cleveland without LeBron and Love is garbage
Philly without Embiid and Simmons is garbage
Utah without Mitchell and Gobert is garbage
Houston without Harden and Paul is garbage
New Orleans without Davis and Holiday is garbage
Toronto without Lowry and Derozan is garbage
The only team that might still be decent without their two best players is the historically stacked Golden State Globetrotter squad. Even without Durant and Curry, they'd probably be pretty decent with just Klay and Draymond.
So credit to Boston for even winning a playoff series without Kyrie and Hayward. It's a shame, because the East is wide open and we could realistically threaten for a trip to the Finals with those guys healthy.
I still think Philly would be a problem, regardless. That team is super talented and playing incredible basketball together right now. Superstar talent gonna superstar.
I'd like to say that next year, if healthy, we'll be the favorites again... but I'm not so sure. Philly's options this SUmmer still terrify me.
I think Philly doing better than expected this year and benefiting from all our injuries this series have decreased the chances of Lebron going there dramatically (not that I ever thought they were high). Lebron really cares about his image and if he goes to a team that makes the conference finals or finals already he is going to get skewered even more than Durant did and discounted from any GOAT discussion because he will look like a mercenary at the end of his career.
With respect to us next year, I think we will be absolutely dominant. Brown has made a huge leap this year. Tatum is only going to get better. Hayward! Irving! it is an embarrassment of riches.
I don't think Golden State would be that great without Durant and Curry by the way. We would have a good matchup with them if we were only down Irving and Hayward.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
Or just not having two all stars and a starter injured. We would be overwhelming favorites to win the east with homecourt advantage and our full team healthy. Really frustrating.
I agree it's frustrating. You take the two best players off every other playoff team and it's doubtful any of them could hang with this injury-riddled Boston team.
Cleveland without LeBron and Love is garbage
Philly without Embiid and Simmons is garbage
Utah without Mitchell and Gobert is garbage
Houston without Harden and Paul is garbage
New Orleans without Davis and Holiday is garbage
Toronto without Lowry and Derozan is garbage
The only team that might still be decent without their two best players is the historically stacked Golden State Globetrotter squad. Even without Durant and Curry, they'd probably be pretty decent with just Klay and Draymond.
So credit to Boston for even winning a playoff series without Kyrie and Hayward. It's a shame, because the East is wide open and we could realistically threaten for a trip to the Finals with those guys healthy.
I still think Philly would be a problem, regardless. That team is super talented and playing incredible basketball together right now. Superstar talent gonna superstar.
I'd like to say that next year, if healthy, we'll be the favorites again... but I'm not so sure. Philly's options this SUmmer still terrify me.
I think Philly doing better than expected this year and benefiting from all our injuries this series have decreased the chances of Lebron going there dramatically (not that I ever thought they were high). Lebron really cares about his image and if he goes to a team that makes the conference finals or finals already he is going to get skewered even more than Durant did and discounted from any GOAT discussion because he will look like a mercenary at the end of his career.
With respect to us next year, I think we will be absolutely dominant. Brown has made a huge leap this year. Tatum is only going to get better. Hayward! Irving! it is an embarrassment of riches.
I don't think Golden State would be that great without Durant and Curry by the way. We would have a good matchup with them if we were only down Irving and Hayward.
I don't know how realistic it actually is that LeBron goes to Philly, but it's hard to imagine him going West while the Golden State Globetrotters are still around. What would be the point of that... so he can lose in the conference finals every year instead of the Finals?
Philly might very well make it out of the East, but it's hard to imagine any team really making a dent on Golden State. They are historically stacked.
So, I wouldn't totally rule out Bron joining Philly in the Summer. I agree it's a bit of an awkward fit with Simmons controlling the ball, but it could happen.
I could also still see him going to the Lakers depending on who else is joining him, but even a team of LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi would struggle to mesh as well as a team built around the ridiculous ball movement and shooting of Klay, Steph and Durant.
Part of me just thinks it would be funny if Bron joined the Warriors for the vet minimum.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Lol. So true. Does this happen on other forums? I read the Cavs and liberty ballers forums sometime and have never noticed them having hardcore supporters of other teams that are always there. We used to have a second Philly fan but I think he left or stopped posting after making some horrible Len Bias jokes.
Boston and Philly are just linked because of their historic rivalry and the fact that both teams set out to tank in 2013-14 with the goal of getting back to contention in 3-5 years. Now here we are around the 5 year mark and both teams are butting heads in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Both teams are currently relying heavily on guys with limited playoff experience. Neither team looked anything like their current iterations last season. The records are pretty even. They are the two major candidates to run this conference for the next 10 years. Can't help but discuss each other. I see philly forums whining about Boston all the time - especially Tatum (because of the Fultz trade) and Brown (because of the Noel/Okafor trades they turned down that would have net them Brown).
Lakers might be resurrected next season as well based on their intriguing young talent and mountains of cap space.
There you go again. Trying to equate Boston's one year rebuild, the year after they traded Pierce and Garnett for arguably the greatest return in the history of NBA trades, to what Philly did for a 4 year stretch of tanking. Man you are so good at trying to tweak Celtic fans with that silly comparison.
But that's history. We are where we are today with two, very young, talented rosters. Two good coaches. Let's see how this plays out. If Philly is as great as you claim them to be, they should dispose of Celtics in 4 games, given that we will be without our top 3 players.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
Or just not having two all stars and a starter injured. We would be overwhelming favorites to win the east with homecourt advantage and our full team healthy. Really frustrating.
I agree it's frustrating. You take the two best players off every other playoff team and it's doubtful any of them could hang with this injury-riddled Boston team.
Cleveland without LeBron and Love is garbage
Philly without Embiid and Simmons is garbage
Utah without Mitchell and Gobert is garbage
Houston without Harden and Paul is garbage
New Orleans without Davis and Holiday is garbage
Toronto without Lowry and Derozan is garbage
The only team that might still be decent without their two best players is the historically stacked Golden State Globetrotter squad. Even without Durant and Curry, they'd probably be pretty decent with just Klay and Draymond.
So credit to Boston for even winning a playoff series without Kyrie and Hayward. It's a shame, because the East is wide open and we could realistically threaten for a trip to the Finals with those guys healthy.
I still think Philly would be a problem, regardless. That team is super talented and playing incredible basketball together right now. Superstar talent gonna superstar.
I'd like to say that next year, if healthy, we'll be the favorites again... but I'm not so sure. Philly's options this SUmmer still terrify me.
I think Philly doing better than expected this year and benefiting from all our injuries this series have decreased the chances of Lebron going there dramatically (not that I ever thought they were high). Lebron really cares about his image and if he goes to a team that makes the conference finals or finals already he is going to get skewered even more than Durant did and discounted from any GOAT discussion because he will look like a mercenary at the end of his career.
With respect to us next year, I think we will be absolutely dominant. Brown has made a huge leap this year. Tatum is only going to get better. Hayward! Irving! it is an embarrassment of riches.
I don't think Golden State would be that great without Durant and Curry by the way. We would have a good matchup with them if we were only down Irving and Hayward.
I don't know how realistic it actually is that LeBron goes to Philly, but it's hard to imagine him going West while the Golden State Globetrotters are still around. What would be the point of that... so he can lose in the conference finals every year instead of the Finals?
Philly might very well make it out of the East, but it's hard to imagine any team really making a dent on Golden State. They are historically stacked.
So, I wouldn't totally rule out Bron joining Philly in the Summer. I agree it's a bit of an awkward fit with Simmons controlling the ball, but it could happen.
I could also still see him going to the Lakers depending on who else is joining him, but even a team of LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi would struggle to mesh as well as a team built around the ridiculous ball movement and shooting of Klay, Steph and Durant.
Part of me just thinks it would be funny if Bron joined the Warriors for the vet minimum.
Do you feel like we tanked even harder than they did?
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
Or just not having two all stars and a starter injured. We would be overwhelming favorites to win the east with homecourt advantage and our full team healthy. Really frustrating.
I agree it's frustrating. You take the two best players off every other playoff team and it's doubtful any of them could hang with this injury-riddled Boston team.
Cleveland without LeBron and Love is garbage
Philly without Embiid and Simmons is garbage
Utah without Mitchell and Gobert is garbage
Houston without Harden and Paul is garbage
New Orleans without Davis and Holiday is garbage
Toronto without Lowry and Derozan is garbage
The only team that might still be decent without their two best players is the historically stacked Golden State Globetrotter squad. Even without Durant and Curry, they'd probably be pretty decent with just Klay and Draymond.
So credit to Boston for even winning a playoff series without Kyrie and Hayward. It's a shame, because the East is wide open and we could realistically threaten for a trip to the Finals with those guys healthy.
I still think Philly would be a problem, regardless. That team is super talented and playing incredible basketball together right now. Superstar talent gonna superstar.
I'd like to say that next year, if healthy, we'll be the favorites again... but I'm not so sure. Philly's options this SUmmer still terrify me.
I think Philly doing better than expected this year and benefiting from all our injuries this series have decreased the chances of Lebron going there dramatically (not that I ever thought they were high). Lebron really cares about his image and if he goes to a team that makes the conference finals or finals already he is going to get skewered even more than Durant did and discounted from any GOAT discussion because he will look like a mercenary at the end of his career.
With respect to us next year, I think we will be absolutely dominant. Brown has made a huge leap this year. Tatum is only going to get better. Hayward! Irving! it is an embarrassment of riches.
I don't think Golden State would be that great without Durant and Curry by the way. We would have a good matchup with them if we were only down Irving and Hayward.
I don't know how realistic it actually is that LeBron goes to Philly, but it's hard to imagine him going West while the Golden State Globetrotters are still around. What would be the point of that... so he can lose in the conference finals every year instead of the Finals?
Philly might very well make it out of the East, but it's hard to imagine any team really making a dent on Golden State. They are historically stacked.
So, I wouldn't totally rule out Bron joining Philly in the Summer. I agree it's a bit of an awkward fit with Simmons controlling the ball, but it could happen.
I could also still see him going to the Lakers depending on who else is joining him, but even a team of LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi would struggle to mesh as well as a team built around the ridiculous ball movement and shooting of Klay, Steph and Durant.
Part of me just thinks it would be funny if Bron joined the Warriors for the vet minimum.
Do you feel like we tanked even harder than they did?
Both teams set out to tank hard in 2013-14. Marcus Smart was our prize. Embiid was their prize.
We both set out to tank again in 2014-15. Conventional wisdom said that moving all our vets like Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green for long-term assets was a clear attempt to bottom out a second time. Ainge didn't include Brad Stevens into his calculations, though. Ainge also saw an opportunity to snatch Isaiah Thomas for essentially nothing. Much to his chagrin, his scrappy group of role players actually made the playoffs with a losing record. Our starting line-up in the playoffs that season was Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner, Brandon Bass and Tyler Zeller.
Woof.
Clearly Ainge has done a phenomenal job keeping this team relevant over the past few years. Cashing in on our hall-of-fame talent for long-term picks has worked better than anyone could have possibly imagined.
Meanwhile, Philly went 2 out of 3 on their tank job prizes. Okafor is a bust, but SImmons and Embiid made the whole exercise worth it.
Both of our teams looked very different last year. Despite the success we had over the years with our temporary roster, we're basically starting from scratch this year with a whole new group. Philly is finally healthy and as predicted filled out their roster with vets.
In-fact, just two years ago I had the following to say:
The team was dedicated to the idea that you need a superstar to contend in this league (fact) and they needed to do everything possible to maximize their chances at getting one. So for 3 years they avoided doing anything (like sign the Amir johnsons and Brandon basses of the world) to maximize their chance of getting stars via the draft. They decided free agency wasn't a viable option for them (at the time they were over the cap) and they didn't have the assets to trade for one.
Now, when the dust settles on this, one of their 6+ seeds might actually end up growing into a superstar... Beyond that they now have 80 mil in cap space so they can at least go after big name free agents.... Lastly, they can probably add about 15-20 wins just by opening their pockets for some veteran role players. Even if the Durants of the world are unlikely, I guarantee you the Amir johnsons and Brandon basses of the world will be happy to take Philly's money when offered.
Hilariously, Amir Johnson is literally one of the players that Philly ended up signing. As expected, vets were willing to take their money when they were ready to offer it. Hence JJ Reddick getting a fat contract. Hence them being able to sign vets like Bellinelli and Illasova to come off their bench. Once you have the superstars in place, the rest is cake. That's why I had been saying for years that basically any competent GM could turn them into a winning franchise given the assets they had.
Fwiw, I actually think the Lakers' tankjob was even more shameful than Philly's. Whereas Philly just depleted their roster of talent and acquired injured players making it impossible to win - the Lakers purposely coached themselves into losing games in an effort to keep their picks. Philly at the very least had a coach and (garbage) players TRYING to win. Lakers flat out decided to let some 37 year old scrub 35%/28% shooter jack up 17 shots a night for them in an effort to stay at the bottom.
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Personally, I'm looking forward to a few matchups.
The Smart vs Simmons matchup will be good. I expect a few scuffles from them. Smart is a very savvy, crafty, annoying defender who could get under Simmons skin.
I think Philly may have an issue matching up with Rozier.
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Personally, I'm looking forward to a few matchups.
The Smart vs Simmons matchup will be good. I expect a few scuffles from them. Smart is a very savvy, crafty, annoying defender who could get under Simmons skin.
I think Philly may have an issue matching up with Rozier.
He doesn't give the ball handler any space to work and moves through screens really well. I'm really looking forward to that match up.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
Or just not having two all stars and a starter injured. We would be overwhelming favorites to win the east with homecourt advantage and our full team healthy. Really frustrating.
I agree it's frustrating. You take the two best players off every other playoff team and it's doubtful any of them could hang with this injury-riddled Boston team.
Cleveland without LeBron and Love is garbage
Philly without Embiid and Simmons is garbage
Utah without Mitchell and Gobert is garbage
Houston without Harden and Paul is garbage
New Orleans without Davis and Holiday is garbage
Toronto without Lowry and Derozan is garbage
The only team that might still be decent without their two best players is the historically stacked Golden State Globetrotter squad. Even without Durant and Curry, they'd probably be pretty decent with just Klay and Draymond.
So credit to Boston for even winning a playoff series without Kyrie and Hayward. It's a shame, because the East is wide open and we could realistically threaten for a trip to the Finals with those guys healthy.
I still think Philly would be a problem, regardless. That team is super talented and playing incredible basketball together right now. Superstar talent gonna superstar.
I'd like to say that next year, if healthy, we'll be the favorites again... but I'm not so sure. Philly's options this SUmmer still terrify me.
I think Philly doing better than expected this year and benefiting from all our injuries this series have decreased the chances of Lebron going there dramatically (not that I ever thought they were high). Lebron really cares about his image and if he goes to a team that makes the conference finals or finals already he is going to get skewered even more than Durant did and discounted from any GOAT discussion because he will look like a mercenary at the end of his career.
With respect to us next year, I think we will be absolutely dominant. Brown has made a huge leap this year. Tatum is only going to get better. Hayward! Irving! it is an embarrassment of riches.
I don't think Golden State would be that great without Durant and Curry by the way. We would have a good matchup with them if we were only down Irving and Hayward.
I don't know how realistic it actually is that LeBron goes to Philly, but it's hard to imagine him going West while the Golden State Globetrotters are still around. What would be the point of that... so he can lose in the conference finals every year instead of the Finals?
Philly might very well make it out of the East, but it's hard to imagine any team really making a dent on Golden State. They are historically stacked.
So, I wouldn't totally rule out Bron joining Philly in the Summer. I agree it's a bit of an awkward fit with Simmons controlling the ball, but it could happen.
I could also still see him going to the Lakers depending on who else is joining him, but even a team of LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi would struggle to mesh as well as a team built around the ridiculous ball movement and shooting of Klay, Steph and Durant.
Part of me just thinks it would be funny if Bron joined the Warriors for the vet minimum.
Do you feel like we tanked even harder than they did?
Both teams set out to tank hard in 2013-14. Marcus Smart was our prize. Embiid was their prize.
We both set out to tank again in 2014-15. Conventional wisdom said that moving all our vets like Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green for long-term assets was a clear attempt to bottom out a second time. Ainge didn't include Brad Stevens into his calculations, though. Ainge also saw an opportunity to snatch Isaiah Thomas for essentially nothing. Much to his chagrin, his scrappy group of role players actually made the playoffs with a losing record. Our starting line-up in the playoffs that season was Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner, Brandon Bass and Tyler Zeller.
Woof.
Clearly Ainge has done a phenomenal job keeping this team relevant over the past few years. Cashing in on our hall-of-fame talent for long-term picks has worked better than anyone could have possibly imagined.
Meanwhile, Philly went 2 out of 3 on their tank job prizes. Okafor is a bust, but SImmons and Embiid made the whole exercise worth it.
Both of our teams looked very different last year. Despite the success we had over the years with our temporary roster, we're basically starting from scratch this year with a whole new group. Philly is finally healthy and as predicted filled out their roster with vets.
In-fact, just two years ago I had the following to say:
The team was dedicated to the idea that you need a superstar to contend in this league (fact) and they needed to do everything possible to maximize their chances at getting one. So for 3 years they avoided doing anything (like sign the Amir johnsons and Brandon basses of the world) to maximize their chance of getting stars via the draft. They decided free agency wasn't a viable option for them (at the time they were over the cap) and they didn't have the assets to trade for one.
Now, when the dust settles on this, one of their 6+ seeds might actually end up growing into a superstar... Beyond that they now have 80 mil in cap space so they can at least go after big name free agents.... Lastly, they can probably add about 15-20 wins just by opening their pockets for some veteran role players. Even if the Durants of the world are unlikely, I guarantee you the Amir johnsons and Brandon basses of the world will be happy to take Philly's money when offered.
Hilariously, Amir Johnson is literally one of the players that Philly ended up signing. As expected, vets were willing to take their money when they were ready to offer it. Hence JJ Reddick getting a fat contract. Hence them being able to sign vets like Bellinelli and Illasova to come off their bench. Once you have the superstars in place, the rest is cake. That's why I had been saying for years that basically any competent GM could turn them into a winning franchise given the assets they had.
Fwiw, I actually think the Lakers' tankjob was even more shameful than Philly's. Whereas Philly just depleted their roster of talent and acquired injured players making it impossible to win - the Lakers purposely coached themselves into losing games in an effort to keep their picks. Philly at the very least had a coach and (garbage) players TRYING to win. Lakers flat out decided to let some 37 year old scrub 35%/28% shooter jack up 17 shots a night for them in an effort to stay at the bottom.
Minnesota also tanked very very hard. However, I actually think it is more luck than anything with this stuff. If Embiid never hurts his back they probably end up with Jabari Parker and they are in the same exact boat as a lot of these other young teams.
I agree with everything else. It is so good man. So good to have you back.
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So glad to see we have our resident Philly stanner back to complement our resident Cleveland stanner.
;)
Vegas has the 76ers as 6/5 favorites to win the East. Boston at 18/1 has the worst odds of the 4 remaining teams.
Most are expecting Philly to dismiss us easily in 5 or 6 games.
Good time for the Phillastans of the world. I guess tanking pays off.
Or just not having two all stars and a starter injured. We would be overwhelming favorites to win the east with homecourt advantage and our full team healthy. Really frustrating.
I agree it's frustrating. You take the two best players off every other playoff team and it's doubtful any of them could hang with this injury-riddled Boston team.
Cleveland without LeBron and Love is garbage
Philly without Embiid and Simmons is garbage
Utah without Mitchell and Gobert is garbage
Houston without Harden and Paul is garbage
New Orleans without Davis and Holiday is garbage
Toronto without Lowry and Derozan is garbage
The only team that might still be decent without their two best players is the historically stacked Golden State Globetrotter squad. Even without Durant and Curry, they'd probably be pretty decent with just Klay and Draymond.
So credit to Boston for even winning a playoff series without Kyrie and Hayward. It's a shame, because the East is wide open and we could realistically threaten for a trip to the Finals with those guys healthy.
I still think Philly would be a problem, regardless. That team is super talented and playing incredible basketball together right now. Superstar talent gonna superstar.
I'd like to say that next year, if healthy, we'll be the favorites again... but I'm not so sure. Philly's options this SUmmer still terrify me.
I think Philly doing better than expected this year and benefiting from all our injuries this series have decreased the chances of Lebron going there dramatically (not that I ever thought they were high). Lebron really cares about his image and if he goes to a team that makes the conference finals or finals already he is going to get skewered even more than Durant did and discounted from any GOAT discussion because he will look like a mercenary at the end of his career.
With respect to us next year, I think we will be absolutely dominant. Brown has made a huge leap this year. Tatum is only going to get better. Hayward! Irving! it is an embarrassment of riches.
I don't think Golden State would be that great without Durant and Curry by the way. We would have a good matchup with them if we were only down Irving and Hayward.
I don't know how realistic it actually is that LeBron goes to Philly, but it's hard to imagine him going West while the Golden State Globetrotters are still around. What would be the point of that... so he can lose in the conference finals every year instead of the Finals?
Philly might very well make it out of the East, but it's hard to imagine any team really making a dent on Golden State. They are historically stacked.
So, I wouldn't totally rule out Bron joining Philly in the Summer. I agree it's a bit of an awkward fit with Simmons controlling the ball, but it could happen.
I could also still see him going to the Lakers depending on who else is joining him, but even a team of LeBron, Paul George and Kawhi would struggle to mesh as well as a team built around the ridiculous ball movement and shooting of Klay, Steph and Durant.
Part of me just thinks it would be funny if Bron joined the Warriors for the vet minimum.
Do you feel like we tanked even harder than they did?
Both teams set out to tank hard in 2013-14. Marcus Smart was our prize. Embiid was their prize.
We both set out to tank again in 2014-15. Conventional wisdom said that moving all our vets like Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green for long-term assets was a clear attempt to bottom out a second time. Ainge didn't include Brad Stevens into his calculations, though. Ainge also saw an opportunity to snatch Isaiah Thomas for essentially nothing. Much to his chagrin, his scrappy group of role players actually made the playoffs with a losing record. Our starting line-up in the playoffs that season was Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner, Brandon Bass and Tyler Zeller.
Woof.
Clearly Ainge has done a phenomenal job keeping this team relevant over the past few years. Cashing in on our hall-of-fame talent for long-term picks has worked better than anyone could have possibly imagined.
Meanwhile, Philly went 2 out of 3 on their tank job prizes. Okafor is a bust, but SImmons and Embiid made the whole exercise worth it.
Both of our teams looked very different last year. Despite the success we had over the years with our temporary roster, we're basically starting from scratch this year with a whole new group. Philly is finally healthy and as predicted filled out their roster with vets.
In-fact, just two years ago I had the following to say:
The team was dedicated to the idea that you need a superstar to contend in this league (fact) and they needed to do everything possible to maximize their chances at getting one. So for 3 years they avoided doing anything (like sign the Amir johnsons and Brandon basses of the world) to maximize their chance of getting stars via the draft. They decided free agency wasn't a viable option for them (at the time they were over the cap) and they didn't have the assets to trade for one.
Now, when the dust settles on this, one of their 6+ seeds might actually end up growing into a superstar... Beyond that they now have 80 mil in cap space so they can at least go after big name free agents.... Lastly, they can probably add about 15-20 wins just by opening their pockets for some veteran role players. Even if the Durants of the world are unlikely, I guarantee you the Amir johnsons and Brandon basses of the world will be happy to take Philly's money when offered.
Hilariously, Amir Johnson is literally one of the players that Philly ended up signing. As expected, vets were willing to take their money when they were ready to offer it. Hence JJ Reddick getting a fat contract. Hence them being able to sign vets like Bellinelli and Illasova to come off their bench. Once you have the superstars in place, the rest is cake. That's why I had been saying for years that basically any competent GM could turn them into a winning franchise given the assets they had.
Fwiw, I actually think the Lakers' tankjob was even more shameful than Philly's. Whereas Philly just depleted their roster of talent and acquired injured players making it impossible to win - the Lakers purposely coached themselves into losing games in an effort to keep their picks. Philly at the very least had a coach and (garbage) players TRYING to win. Lakers flat out decided to let some 37 year old scrub 35%/28% shooter jack up 17 shots a night for them in an effort to stay at the bottom.
Minnesota also tanked very very hard. However, I actually think it is more luck than anything with this stuff. If Embiid never hurts his back they probably end up with Jabari Parker and they are in the same exact boat as a lot of these other young teams.
I agree with everything else. It is so good man. So good to have you back.
An alt universe where Embiid is healthy on draft night potentially has massive repercussions.
Embiid probably goes #1 to Cleveland and they might end up keeping the pick. If healthy Embiid is as amazing in Year 1 as he was when he finally made his debut, the trio of LeBron, Embiid and Kyrie might still be together contending for titles.
Meanwhile, maybe Golden State finally reluctantly agrees to trade Klay Thompson for Kevin Love. In which case, maybe Durant never ends up on the Warriors.
Or perhaps Boston goes all-in and trades for Kevin Love - losing the picks that became Brown and Tatum and instead building around Kevin Love and Rajon Rondo.
Meanwhile, butterfly effect means that Jabari Parker isn't playing in the Suns/Bucks game when he gets injured on December 15, 2014. Instead, he'd be leading a very young Philly team alongside the sensational rookie Nerlens Noel. Perhaps with no injury, his development isn't stunted. Perhaps the youthful Noel/Jabari Sixers still finish outside the top 3 and instead find themselves picking at #9 when Danny Ainge comes calling about Justice Winslow... and perhaps Hinkie agrees to move the Winslow pick to Boston for #16 (Rozier), #28 and the 2016 Brooklyn pick... but because we've now just shifted the space time continuum, instead of the 2016 Brooklyn pick ending up #3, it ends up winning the lotto and the Sixers add Ben Simmons regardless... who in this timeline doesn't get injured his rookie year.
Then perhaps Rozier, Simmons, Jabari and Noel all live up to their potential with lots of minutes out of the gate and a more balanced roster.
Who knows.
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They had a 7 game series in 2012 and no one talked about ignition of an old rivalry
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They had a 7 game series in 2012 and no one talked about ignition of an old rivalry
That's because Philly was an 8th seed team that won 35 games and wouldn't have even gotten past the 1st round had Derrick Rose not gotten injured prior to the playoffs. Boston was a borderline washed up old team that got past an injured Hawks team in Round 1... it was semi embarrassing Philly even took us to 7 games that season. It couldn't be considered a reignition of the rivalry, because Philly had no business being there and Boston was overdue on blowing it up.
Where we stand right now is two young teams on the verge of having long-term contenders. This might be the first of many playoff battles between these teams over the years. Philly probably smokes us this go-around, but we'll hopefully come back healthy next season and give them more of a fight.
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They had a 7 game series in 2012 and no one talked about ignition of an old rivalry
We didn’t have so many Celtics fans who were fascinated with all things Sixers back then.
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They had a 7 game series in 2012 and no one talked about ignition of an old rivalry
We didn’t have so many Celtics fans who were fascinated with all things Sixers back then.
It was a couple years before both teams synchronized their rebuilds so that they'd end up at this point as playoff rivals.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
We ain't closing a series in a hostile environment like Wells Fargo Center.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
Except the only talent that didn't really play as usual was Simmons. And even that isn't really true, as he played as well against us as he has all season - which is to say, poorly.
Covington has been trash all playoffs, nothing new there. Belinelli returned to earth. Doubt we're in trouble
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
Except the only talent that didn't really play as usual was Simmons. And even that isn't really true, as he played as well against us as he has all season - which is to say, poorly.
Covington has been trash all playoffs, nothing new there. Belinelli returned to earth. Doubt we're in trouble
Yeah I think Convington got very overhyped on this forum. One person called him Rudy gobert on the wing. Between that and the reddick is a very good defensive player posts two days ago it is tough to take this board seriously on philly
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
Except the only talent that didn't really play as usual was Simmons. And even that isn't really true, as he played as well against us as he has all season - which is to say, poorly.
Covington has been trash all playoffs, nothing new there. Belinelli returned to earth. Doubt we're in trouble
Yeah I think Convington got very overhyped on this forum. One person called him Rudy gobert on the wing. Between that and the reddick is a very good defensive player posts two days ago it is tough to take this board seriously on philly
I don’t really blame people. It’s been the narrative on sports shows all season. People just regurgitate what they’re told. The Sixers top to bottom are overrated.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
Your guys almost pulled it out LB. Home cooking should help them the next two games.
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I wonder if this is a career defining moment for Simmons. Like when people realize a baseball player can't hit a curve.
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I wonder if this is a career defining moment for Simmons. Like when people realize a baseball player can't hit a curve.
If he's been in denial about having to learn how to shoot maybe this changes his mind? But I doubt it. I'd bet he knows he has to learn how to shoot it's just that he's a rookie, doing a ton of things at a very high level. He's not going to be good at everything.
I'll be shocked if he doesn't go on to a great career and I'd bet we've witnessed his worst game of the series last night.
Gird your loins.
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I wonder if this is a career defining moment for Simmons. Like when people realize a baseball player can't hit a curve.
If he's been in denial about having to learn how to shoot maybe this changes his mind? But I doubt it. I'd bet he knows he has to learn how to shoot it's just that he's a rookie, doing a ton of things at a very high level. He's not going to be good at everything.
I'll be shocked if he doesn't go on to a great career and I'd bet we've witnessed his worst game of the series last night.
Gird your loins.
I guess I am a bit surprised that he didn't make at least some improvement last year with at least half the year off and able to shoot. That would have been a great practice time. It seems insane to me that with that time off people still dont know what hand he should shoot with.
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Just because Philly finally made the playoffs again, does not mean that a rivalry is back. The Celtics are missing their two best players and are still up 2-0 in this series. I think the Bucks were easily a more talented (and better) team than the 76ers.
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Just because Philly finally made the playoffs again, does not mean that a rivalry is back. The Celtics are missing their two best players and are still up 2-0 in this series. I think the Bucks were easily a more talented (and better) team than the 76ers.
I don't think Milwaukee is more talented, but the playoffs are different, and the format favors players that can impose their will on a game. Philly has better role players, but Giannis and Middleton were impressively tough under pressure, while Embiid and Simmons aren't ready to consistently do that.
This should become an epic rivalry. The 76ers are good now. They've got a #1 pick sitting on the bench that still might become a great player, and they might be able to sign a top free agent this summer.
The good news for us is that our young core is fearless, while their young core seems very fragile.
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There have been questions about Simmons mental makeup going back to college. Perhaps between him and Fultz they will be the next generation of raptors.
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There have been questions about Simmons mental makeup going back to college. Perhaps between him and Fultz they will be the next generation of raptors.
That would be ideal. They have all this talent, look great, go to all star games, win lots of regular season games, and get beat by the Celtics in the playoffs every year.
;D
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There have been questions about Simmons mental makeup going back to college. Perhaps between him and Fultz they will be the next generation of raptors.
That would be ideal. They have all this talent, look great, go to all star games, win lots of regular season games, and get beat by the Celtics in the playoffs every year.
;D
Lots of Great teams have been kept down by the Celtics.
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Just have to pray PHI doesn't add Lebron, OR acquire BOTH George + Leonard.
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Just have to pray PHI doesn't add Lebron, OR acquire BOTH George + Leonard.
Don't really have to pray. It is incredibly unlikely.
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Just have to pray PHI doesn't add Lebron, OR acquire BOTH George + Leonard.
Don't really have to pray. It is incredibly unlikely.
Unfortunately it means it is likely two of the three go to Lakers. Though I still don't think that's good enough to dethrone the Warriors and Rockets in the West.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
If Boston improbably wins this series, it'll have been worth it. Philly still has 4 more games to prove the experts right and win in 6.
Personally, I'm thrilled Boston won the home games. It would have sucked to just get swept. Making this series interesting will go a long way towards jumpstarting this rivalry for real.
No matter what happens (and ignoring the flukey year they won 35 games and upset a Rose-less Bulls team in Round 1), this is by default Philly's best season since 2000-01. Way ahead of schedule. It's already been proven a wild success.
Here's hoping Boston can keep defying the odds and winning.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
If Boston improbably wins this series, it'll have been worth it. Philly still has 4 more games to prove the experts right and win in 6.
Personally, I'm thrilled Boston won the home games. It would have sucked to just get swept. Making this series interesting will go a long way towards jumpstarting this rivalry for real.
No matter what happens (and ignoring the flukey year they won 35 games and upset a Rose-less Bulls team in Round 1), this is by default Philly's best season since 2000-01. Way ahead of schedule. It's already been proven a wild success.
Here's hoping Boston can keep defying the odds and winning.
You were citing Vegas odds before, when Philly was favored. Celtics now favored in this series. Why no more citing of Vegas odds?
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
If Boston improbably wins this series, it'll have been worth it. Philly still has 4 more games to prove the experts right and win in 6.
Personally, I'm thrilled Boston won the home games. It would have sucked to just get swept. Making this series interesting will go a long way towards jumpstarting this rivalry for real.
No matter what happens (and ignoring the flukey year they won 35 games and upset a Rose-less Bulls team in Round 1), this is by default Philly's best season since 2000-01. Way ahead of schedule. It's already been proven a wild success.
Here's hoping Boston can keep defying the odds and winning.
You were citing Vegas odds before, when Philly was favored. Celtics now favored in this series. Why no more citing of Vegas odds?
I haven’t looked since before the series started. Is Boston now favored? That’s amazing. Hopefully we don’t cave under the pressure of heightened expectations and choke.
We still haven’t won a road game in these playoffs. I’ll be nervous if Philly gets these next two.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
If Boston improbably wins this series, it'll have been worth it. Philly still has 4 more games to prove the experts right and win in 6.
Personally, I'm thrilled Boston won the home games. It would have sucked to just get swept. Making this series interesting will go a long way towards jumpstarting this rivalry for real.
No matter what happens (and ignoring the flukey year they won 35 games and upset a Rose-less Bulls team in Round 1), this is by default Philly's best season since 2000-01. Way ahead of schedule. It's already been proven a wild success.
Here's hoping Boston can keep defying the odds and winning.
You were citing Vegas odds before, when Philly was favored. Celtics now favored in this series. Why no more citing of Vegas odds?
I haven’t looked since before the series started. Is Boston now favored? That’s amazing. Hopefully we don’t cave under the pressure of heightened expectations and choke.
We still haven’t won a road game in these playoffs. I’ll be nervous if Philly gets these next two.
I expect Philly to win the next 2. They are a dominant homecourt team. But then the Celtics should take game 5, as it’s unlikely they lose at home for the 3rd game in a row.
Philly +105
Boston -125
Philly is still overrated with Boston paying out a whopping 80 cents on the dollar up 2-0 with home court.
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Right now until they win a game there is no rivalry. I fully expect them to win some games until then there is no rivalry. I think if we win the next game they will break and we will sweep them, I think that winning game three will be very hard, though.
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Man, it's just like old times with Eddie calling out LB. I am happy to have you back, LB - even if for just a short time...but hope you will stick around. You make things a lot more interesting around here!
Anyway, let's hope the Cs can keep rolling. I want this to be the same type of rivalry that Washington thinks they have with us (and we think we have with Lebron)...very one-sided - for years to come.
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Philly is just an overall unathletic team that struggles badly in preventing dribble penetration. Think about the lack of athleticism of some of their rotation guys - Saric, Redick, Ilyasova, Marco, McConnell, and Amir. Then you have Simmons, who is obviously athletic, but he's trying to cover Rozier and he simply can't stay in front of him.
I wouldn't classify Philly's year as a rousing success. It's been pretty fiukey to be quite honest. They lad a long winning streak towards the end of the year, but that was masked by it being against a host of taking teams. Then they were fortunate by playing Miami, the worst playoff team this year, who struggles to defend the 3 and had one of their top players mentally check out towards the latter part of the year.
The TJ McConnell phenomenon - isn't it hilarious that Brown has such little confidence in Simmons and Fultz that he was favoring this Rudy clone over the last 2 #1 overall picks?
Side note:
Simmons vs Fultz in a 3pt shootout would be must see TV.
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Process - meet PROGRESS.
Keep the pressure ON, BOSTON - go in there and take game 3 from them.
Don't ask - just TAKE IT.
Impose your WILL - like the Boston Teams of old.
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Sixers tankers are in Shambles
Down with Hinkie Youth
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
If Boston improbably wins this series, it'll have been worth it. Philly still has 4 more games to prove the experts right and win in 6.
Personally, I'm thrilled Boston won the home games. It would have sucked to just get swept. Making this series interesting will go a long way towards jumpstarting this rivalry for real.
No matter what happens (and ignoring the flukey year they won 35 games and upset a Rose-less Bulls team in Round 1), this is by default Philly's best season since 2000-01. Way ahead of schedule. It's already been proven a wild success.
Here's hoping Boston can keep defying the odds and winning.
You were citing Vegas odds before, when Philly was favored. Celtics now favored in this series. Why no more citing of Vegas odds?
I haven’t looked since before the series started. Is Boston now favored? That’s amazing. Hopefully we don’t cave under the pressure of heightened expectations and choke.
We still haven’t won a road game in these playoffs. I’ll be nervous if Philly gets these next two.
Here's something to cheer you up. 7 reasons the Sixers will come back to beat the Celtics.
http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/05/trust_the_process_7_reasons_sixers_will_come_back.html
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I picked Celtics in 7 at start of series and continue to feel it will be a long series. Wish we’d keep Jaylen out next two games to heal more. Both for balance of this series and, if we’re sble to advance, vs Cavs.
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I sincerely want to see the 6ers rebuild fail. I hate that team and it's lousy fan base. I hope they are the Hawks of the last 10 years at best.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
If Boston improbably wins this series, it'll have been worth it. Philly still has 4 more games to prove the experts right and win in 6.
Personally, I'm thrilled Boston won the home games. It would have sucked to just get swept. Making this series interesting will go a long way towards jumpstarting this rivalry for real.
No matter what happens (and ignoring the flukey year they won 35 games and upset a Rose-less Bulls team in Round 1), this is by default Philly's best season since 2000-01. Way ahead of schedule. It's already been proven a wild success.
Here's hoping Boston can keep defying the odds and winning.
You were citing Vegas odds before, when Philly was favored. Celtics now favored in this series. Why no more citing of Vegas odds?
I haven’t looked since before the series started. Is Boston now favored? That’s amazing. Hopefully we don’t cave under the pressure of heightened expectations and choke.
We still haven’t won a road game in these playoffs. I’ll be nervous if Philly gets these next two.
I expect Philly to win the next 2. They are a dominant homecourt team. But then the Celtics should take game 5, as it’s unlikely they lose at home for the 3rd game in a row.
Philly +105
Boston -125
Philly is still overrated with Boston paying out a whopping 80 cents on the dollar up 2-0 with home court.
I actually don't think Philly as a team is overrated. The talent is there. The story is more that this Boston squad sans Hayward and Kyrie is underrated. I was predicting Rozier's break-out season well before it became trendy, but even the most optimistic of Rozier fans couldn't have possibly expected the guy to average 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 1.2 steals with 44%/44%/82% shooting in the playoffs. That's unreal.
Boston also won the regular season match-up with Philly. Went 3-1. But the three wins came with a healthy Kyrie Irving and it was before things started clicking for Philly.
That's still a supremely talented squad. Boston's defense has gotten to them in a big way. Simmons hasn't been good at all. Their team seems to be caving under the pressure and look a little shook.
But the story here isn't Philly sucking - it's that Boston is playing like a contender in spite of the injuries.
Horford has been amazing. 18.4 points, 9 rebounds, 3.6 assists, with 61%/43%/80% shooting. Tatum has 4-straight 20+ games. And then Rozier - my god... if this kid is really this good, it's going to make for a fascinating offseason.
Years ago I compared Rozier to Devin Booker (taken a few picks earlier) questioning what might have happened if roles were reversed. Booker probably would have been buried behind multiple guards on our team. Rozier probably would have had an opportunity to play through mistakes on the Suns:
On a lesser team with less depth they might have seen minutes sooner. There was a thread here recently about Devin Booker. Booker was taken just a few picks ahead of Rozier. The 19 year old averaged 20 points after the all-star break. It's possible he would have worked his way up the depth chart on Boston, but it's also possible he would have spent most of his time in D-League and never got a real opportunity. Booker played on a bottom 4 team and spent the first half of the season playing in 48 games and averaging 23 minutes. Rozier, on the other hand, appeared in only 18 games over the first half of the season and averaged less than 6 minutes per game during that time. Not really enough time to show anything. Would Rozier have found a statistical groove with bulk minutes on the Suns? Would we be seeing our first signs of Booker's talent in the playoffs had he ended up on Boston? There's maybe a little of that.
All we can really do is compare their summer league stats (since Booker never played in D-League this year)
Rozier - 12.2 points, 3 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 1.25 steals with 35%/40%/83%
Booker - 15.2 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 0.7 steals, 40%/40%/88%
Sure, Booker was probably a little better - hence why he was taken 3 spots higher - but who knows what kind of production they'd have if roles were reversed.
These playoffs have been really interesting. Clearly Booker is still the better prospect of the two, but we're starting to see what kind of stuff Rozier can do with the minutes, opportunity, and the building confidence. If this level of play is legit - wow...
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Process - meet PROGRESS.
Keep the pressure ON, BOSTON - go in there and take game 3 from them.
Don't ask - just TAKE IT.
Impose your WILL - like the Boston Teams of old.
I'm going to buy that shirt.
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
If Boston improbably wins this series, it'll have been worth it. Philly still has 4 more games to prove the experts right and win in 6.
Personally, I'm thrilled Boston won the home games. It would have sucked to just get swept. Making this series interesting will go a long way towards jumpstarting this rivalry for real.
No matter what happens (and ignoring the flukey year they won 35 games and upset a Rose-less Bulls team in Round 1), this is by default Philly's best season since 2000-01. Way ahead of schedule. It's already been proven a wild success.
Here's hoping Boston can keep defying the odds and winning.
You were citing Vegas odds before, when Philly was favored. Celtics now favored in this series. Why no more citing of Vegas odds?
I haven’t looked since before the series started. Is Boston now favored? That’s amazing. Hopefully we don’t cave under the pressure of heightened expectations and choke.
We still haven’t won a road game in these playoffs. I’ll be nervous if Philly gets these next two.
I expect Philly to win the next 2. They are a dominant homecourt team. But then the Celtics should take game 5, as it’s unlikely they lose at home for the 3rd game in a row.
Philly +105
Boston -125
Philly is still overrated with Boston paying out a whopping 80 cents on the dollar up 2-0 with home court.
I actually don't think Philly as a team is overrated. The talent is there. The story is more that this Boston squad sans Hayward and Kyrie is underrated. I was predicting Rozier's break-out season well before it became trendy, but even the most optimistic of Rozier fans couldn't have possibly expected the guy to average 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 1.2 steals with 44%/44%/82% shooting in the playoffs. That's unreal.
Boston also won the regular season match-up with Philly. Went 3-1. But the three wins came with a healthy Kyrie Irving and it was before things started clicking for Philly.
That's still a supremely talented squad. Boston's defense has gotten to them in a big way. Simmons hasn't been good at all. Their team seems to be caving under the pressure and look a little shook.
But the story here isn't Philly sucking - it's that Boston is playing like a contender in spite of the injuries.
Horford has been amazing. 18.4 points, 9 rebounds, 3.6 assists, with 61%/43%/80% shooting. Tatum has 4-straight 20+ games. And then Rozier - my god... if this kid is really this good, it's going to make for a fascinating offseason.
Years ago I compared Rozier to Devin Booker (taken a few picks earlier) questioning what might have happened if roles were reversed. Booker probably would have been buried behind multiple guards on our team. Rozier probably would have had an opportunity to play through mistakes on the Suns:
On a lesser team with less depth they might have seen minutes sooner. There was a thread here recently about Devin Booker. Booker was taken just a few picks ahead of Rozier. The 19 year old averaged 20 points after the all-star break. It's possible he would have worked his way up the depth chart on Boston, but it's also possible he would have spent most of his time in D-League and never got a real opportunity. Booker played on a bottom 4 team and spent the first half of the season playing in 48 games and averaging 23 minutes. Rozier, on the other hand, appeared in only 18 games over the first half of the season and averaged less than 6 minutes per game during that time. Not really enough time to show anything. Would Rozier have found a statistical groove with bulk minutes on the Suns? Would we be seeing our first signs of Booker's talent in the playoffs had he ended up on Boston? There's maybe a little of that.
All we can really do is compare their summer league stats (since Booker never played in D-League this year)
Rozier - 12.2 points, 3 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 1.25 steals with 35%/40%/83%
Booker - 15.2 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 0.7 steals, 40%/40%/88%
Sure, Booker was probably a little better - hence why he was taken 3 spots higher - but who knows what kind of production they'd have if roles were reversed.
These playoffs have been really interesting. Clearly Booker is still the better prospect of the two, but we're starting to see what kind of stuff Rozier can do with the minutes, opportunity, and the building confidence. If this level of play is legit - wow...
Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
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Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
I don't necessarily want in on this argument but are you seriously bringing up something he posted 3 years ago when Rozier hadn't even played in the NBA yet? Come on, dude.
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Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
I don't necessarily want in on this argument but are you seriously bringing up something he posted 3 years ago when Rozier hadn't even played in the NBA yet? Come on, dude.
i was clearly talking about Bill Hozier in that post.
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Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
I don't necessarily want in on this argument but are you seriously bringing up something he posted 3 years ago when Rozier hadn't even played in the NBA yet? Come on, dude.
You are in it now. Go! Who is right?
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I'm feeling ballsy today, so I'm calling Celtics in Six games. Prior to the series starting it was Celtics in seven.
As long as Rozier, Tatum and Horford continue to combine for 80+ points per night, the team continues to shoot nearly 50% from three, and Philly continues to shoot 10% from three, I like Boston's chances of keeping this series competitive.
Don’t worry. Your team will start to play better.
more than likely, Philly will still cook us. Talent is talent. Let's not forget that LeBron lost game 1 at home vs the Pacers by 18 and still won the series and is up 1-0 in Round 2. Hard to keep guys that talented down. Rozier, Tatum and Horford combined for more points in Game 1 than KG, Pierce and Ray ever did. That's pretty remarkable, but more than likely not sustainable.
LarBrd33 having a really bad comeback. Poor guy, clearly things are going like he thought they would. Came here to gloat, but looking like a goat.
If Boston improbably wins this series, it'll have been worth it. Philly still has 4 more games to prove the experts right and win in 6.
Personally, I'm thrilled Boston won the home games. It would have sucked to just get swept. Making this series interesting will go a long way towards jumpstarting this rivalry for real.
No matter what happens (and ignoring the flukey year they won 35 games and upset a Rose-less Bulls team in Round 1), this is by default Philly's best season since 2000-01. Way ahead of schedule. It's already been proven a wild success.
Here's hoping Boston can keep defying the odds and winning.
You were citing Vegas odds before, when Philly was favored. Celtics now favored in this series. Why no more citing of Vegas odds?
I haven’t looked since before the series started. Is Boston now favored? That’s amazing. Hopefully we don’t cave under the pressure of heightened expectations and choke.
We still haven’t won a road game in these playoffs. I’ll be nervous if Philly gets these next two.
I expect Philly to win the next 2. They are a dominant homecourt team. But then the Celtics should take game 5, as it’s unlikely they lose at home for the 3rd game in a row.
Philly +105
Boston -125
Philly is still overrated with Boston paying out a whopping 80 cents on the dollar up 2-0 with home court.
I actually don't think Philly as a team is overrated. The talent is there. The story is more that this Boston squad sans Hayward and Kyrie is underrated. I was predicting Rozier's break-out season well before it became trendy, but even the most optimistic of Rozier fans couldn't have possibly expected the guy to average 19 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 1.2 steals with 44%/44%/82% shooting in the playoffs. That's unreal.
Boston also won the regular season match-up with Philly. Went 3-1. But the three wins came with a healthy Kyrie Irving and it was before things started clicking for Philly.
That's still a supremely talented squad. Boston's defense has gotten to them in a big way. Simmons hasn't been good at all. Their team seems to be caving under the pressure and look a little shook.
But the story here isn't Philly sucking - it's that Boston is playing like a contender in spite of the injuries.
Horford has been amazing. 18.4 points, 9 rebounds, 3.6 assists, with 61%/43%/80% shooting. Tatum has 4-straight 20+ games. And then Rozier - my god... if this kid is really this good, it's going to make for a fascinating offseason.
Years ago I compared Rozier to Devin Booker (taken a few picks earlier) questioning what might have happened if roles were reversed. Booker probably would have been buried behind multiple guards on our team. Rozier probably would have had an opportunity to play through mistakes on the Suns:
On a lesser team with less depth they might have seen minutes sooner. There was a thread here recently about Devin Booker. Booker was taken just a few picks ahead of Rozier. The 19 year old averaged 20 points after the all-star break. It's possible he would have worked his way up the depth chart on Boston, but it's also possible he would have spent most of his time in D-League and never got a real opportunity. Booker played on a bottom 4 team and spent the first half of the season playing in 48 games and averaging 23 minutes. Rozier, on the other hand, appeared in only 18 games over the first half of the season and averaged less than 6 minutes per game during that time. Not really enough time to show anything. Would Rozier have found a statistical groove with bulk minutes on the Suns? Would we be seeing our first signs of Booker's talent in the playoffs had he ended up on Boston? There's maybe a little of that.
All we can really do is compare their summer league stats (since Booker never played in D-League this year)
Rozier - 12.2 points, 3 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 1.25 steals with 35%/40%/83%
Booker - 15.2 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 0.7 steals, 40%/40%/88%
Sure, Booker was probably a little better - hence why he was taken 3 spots higher - but who knows what kind of production they'd have if roles were reversed.
These playoffs have been really interesting. Clearly Booker is still the better prospect of the two, but we're starting to see what kind of stuff Rozier can do with the minutes, opportunity, and the building confidence. If this level of play is legit - wow...
Overrated. By Vegas, you, and even me, who expected them to win today.
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Im glad LB came back to watch his boys get trounced!
Lets close this out in Philly(ok game 5 is more realistic)
I must admit I thought 6ers in 6. This Celtics team is really something special.
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Stephen A says it’s all the fault of Coach Brown.
Waaaaaahhhhhh!!
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Im glad LB came back to watch his boys get trounced!
Lets close this out in Philly(ok game 5 is more realistic)
I must admit I thought 6ers in 6. This Celtics team is really something special.
If Philly loses this series, my un-retirement will be worth every post.
Still a chance they win the next 4.
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Im glad LB came back to watch his boys get trounced!
Lets close this out in Philly(ok game 5 is more realistic)
I must admit I thought 6ers in 6. This Celtics team is really something special.
If Philly loses this series, my un-retirement will be worth every post.
Still a chance they win the next 4.
yeah. Two young teams reliant on inconsistent players. Anything can happen.
But I could see this 6ers team folding like a chair. Need to knock them out in game 4 or 5. Don't let them get back into this building with some momentum.
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Stephen A says it’s all the fault of Coach Brown.
Waaaaaahhhhhh!!
Stephen A's face was turning red he was really upset
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Im glad LB came back to watch his boys get trounced!
Lets close this out in Philly(ok game 5 is more realistic)
I must admit I thought 6ers in 6. This Celtics team is really something special.
If Philly loses this series, my un-retirement will be worth every post.
Still a chance they win the next 4.
When you spend 5 years tanking you learn how to lose not win.
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Process - meet PROGRESS.
Keep the pressure ON, BOSTON - go in there and take game 3 from them.
Don't ask - just TAKE IT.
Impose your WILL - like the Boston Teams of old.
They kept the pressure on.
They TOOK the game by keeping defensive intensity.
They imposed their will.
And Jason Tatum is being mentioned in some good company
(https://cdn-s3.si.com/styles/si_gallery_slide/s3/images/1989-Larry-Bird-001098174.jpg?itok=1Y9Xxyji)
NEVER count BOS out. Series not over but we're getting close.
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Im glad LB came back to watch his boys get trounced!
Lets close this out in Philly(ok game 5 is more realistic)
I must admit I thought 6ers in 6. This Celtics team is really something special.
If Philly loses this series, my un-retirement will be worth every post.
Still a chance they win the next 4.
If?
To the end...
(https://i.imgflip.com/r89z2.jpg)
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Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
I don't necessarily want in on this argument but are you seriously bringing up something he posted 3 years ago when Rozier hadn't even played in the NBA yet? Come on, dude.
You are in it now. Go! Who is right?
I thought there wasn't even a search feature in looking through old posts, and you could only move backward through a ton of clicks. So yeah, that's very much over the top. Unless I'm just banned from a search feature too.
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Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
I don't necessarily want in on this argument but are you seriously bringing up something he posted 3 years ago when Rozier hadn't even played in the NBA yet? Come on, dude.
You are in it now. Go! Who is right?
I thought there wasn't even a search feature in looking through old posts, and you could only move backward through a ton of clicks. So yeah, that's very much over the top. Unless I'm just banned from a search feature too.
Not too difficult just a simple search of Hozier does the trick. Especially when LB did it ad nauseum to mock Rozier. That said, if LB is going to use a post in 2016 to try to make it seem as though he's been fully supportive of the guy, then why is one about 10 months before that not fair game?
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Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
I don't necessarily want in on this argument but are you seriously bringing up something he posted 3 years ago when Rozier hadn't even played in the NBA yet? Come on, dude.
You are in it now. Go! Who is right?
I thought there wasn't even a search feature in looking through old posts, and you could only move backward through a ton of clicks. So yeah, that's very much over the top. Unless I'm just banned from a search feature too.
Not too difficult just a simple search of Hozier does the trick. Especially when LB did it ad nauseum to mock Rozier. That said, if LB is going to use a post in 2016 to try to make it seem as though he's been fully supportive of the guy, then why is one about 10 months before that not fair game?
I hadn't even heard of Rozier on draft night. Nobody had. He was expected to go in the 2nd round. It's a testament to Danny's greatness that he was able to spot him in the dregs of a draft range everyone said was worthless. Clearly not even Danny was sold - or he wouldn't have offered 4 first round picks (including the Rozier pick and the pick that became Jaylen Brown) to try to acquire Winslow.
But I'll tell you who I HAD heard of... Irish singer-songwriter and genuine hunk Andrew Hozier-Byrne - better known by the mononym "Hozier". You might recall Hozier from his hit song "Take me to Church" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GETlFmpGwY) circa 2015 - the year Scary Terry was drafted.
Hence why around draft day that year I wondered if Boston might be better off moving the pick for a "bust" like Nik Stauskas or Andrew Bennett. Clearly not. Ainge nailed it.
Regardless, I've posted favorably about Terry over the years. I pointed out his sensational D-League stats. I pointed out that he was genuinely a Top 2 player his second attempt at summer league. I openly pondered if he'd flourish had he been in Devin Booker's role. And I was one of the first to point out that Terry might have been taking the leap this year at age 23 (usually the cut-off for when guys take a leap).
Thrilled with his performance. As good as he's been, nobody could really have expected him to be playing like an all-star in these playoffs. You knew that Simmons might struggle against our defense. You knew that Embiid had been limited by Horford during the regular season. You knew that Philly's youth and inexperience could leave them shell-shocked against a team as locked in and the Celtics. You knew that they might not recover from the emotional high of their Round 1 victory. But the BIG unknown in this series was how Boston was going to consistently get buckets. Tatum getting 20+ in 5 straight games could have been predicted on some level. Tatum has that kind of superstar pedigree. But Rozier playing like this ... that's something else. If he keeps that up, it's going to make for an interesting offseason.
I really hope we find a way to close out this series before Philly gets it together. Hell of a start to the rivalry.
I'd like to conclude by making an announcement. I neglected to remember how much of a chore posting on CelticsBlog has become for me. Making home dingers just isn't the same with such a small audience. And so, I'd like to spend the remainder of my unretirement waiting for some nobel young steed worthy of the LarBrd33 mantel to impress me. Think of it like Willy Wonka's golden tickets or "Ready Player One's" silver apples. At the conclusion of my 60 day contract, one lucky poster may earn the right to the LarBrd33 moniker, be granted access to my account, and can carry on my legendary legacy for a new generation of CelticsBloggers ala Dread Pirate Roberts. May the odds be ever in your favor.
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Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
I don't necessarily want in on this argument but are you seriously bringing up something he posted 3 years ago when Rozier hadn't even played in the NBA yet? Come on, dude.
You are in it now. Go! Who is right?
I thought there wasn't even a search feature in looking through old posts, and you could only move backward through a ton of clicks. So yeah, that's very much over the top. Unless I'm just banned from a search feature too.
Not too difficult just a simple search of Hozier does the trick. Especially when LB did it ad nauseum to mock Rozier. That said, if LB is going to use a post in 2016 to try to make it seem as though he's been fully supportive of the guy, then why is one about 10 months before that not fair game?
I hadn't even heard of Rozier on draft night. Nobody had. He was expected to go in the 2nd round. It's a testament to Danny's greatness that he was able to spot him in the dregs of a draft range everyone said was worthless. Clearly not even Danny was sold - or he wouldn't have offered 4 first round picks (including the Rozier pick and the pick that became Jaylen Brown) to try to acquire Winslow.
But I'll tell you who I HAD heard of... Irish singer-songwriter and genuine hunk Andrew Hozier-Byrne - better known by the mononym "Hozier". You might recall Hozier from his hit song "Take me to Church" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GETlFmpGwY) circa 2015 - the year Scary Terry was drafted.
Hence why around draft day that year I wondered if Boston might be better off moving the pick for a "bust" like Nik Stauskas or Andrew Bennett. Clearly not. Ainge nailed it.
Regardless, I've posted favorably about Terry over the years. I pointed out his sensational D-League stats. I pointed out that he was genuinely a Top 2 player his second attempt at summer league. I openly pondered if he'd flourish had he been in Devin Booker's role. And I was one of the first to point out that Terry might have been taking the leap this year at age 23 (usually the cut-off for when guys take a leap).
Thrilled with his performance. As good as he's been, nobody could really have expected him to be playing like an all-star in these playoffs. You knew that Simmons might struggle against our defense. You knew that Embiid had been limited by Horford during the regular season. You knew that Philly's youth and inexperience could leave them shell-shocked against a team as locked in and the Celtics. You knew that they might not recover from the emotional high of their Round 1 victory. But the BIG unknown in this series was how Boston was going to consistently get buckets. Tatum getting 20+ in 5 straight games could have been predicted on some level. Tatum has that kind of superstar pedigree. But Rozier playing like this ... that's something else. If he keeps that up, it's going to make for an interesting offseason.
I really hope we find a way to close out this series before Philly gets it together. Hell of a start to the rivalry.
I'd like to conclude by making an announcement. I neglected to remember how much of a chore posting on CelticsBlog has become for me. And so, I'd like to spend the remainder of my unretirement waiting for some nobel young steed worthy of the LarBrd33 mantel to impress me. Think of it like Willy Wonka's golden tickets or "Ready Player One's" silver apples. At the conclusion of my 60 day contract, one lucky poster may earn the right to the LarBrd33 moniker, be granted access to my account, and can carry on my legendary legacy for a new generation of CelticsBloggers ala Dread Pirate Roberts. May the odds be ever in your favor.
Game changer right here :o
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Really, LB? Now you're trying to play it off as you've been a catalyst of the Rozier fan club? Was that before or after you mockingly referred to him as Hozier and compared him to Little Phil Pressey? Let's not be hypocritical now.
Exhibit A
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=79399.60
So we swap pressey for hozier. We swap bass for Amir. And that's about it.
Should be in the lotto next year. I know we overachieved last year, but we were bottom 9 with 11 games left. I can't see it happening again.
Bummer of an offseason.
I don't necessarily want in on this argument but are you seriously bringing up something he posted 3 years ago when Rozier hadn't even played in the NBA yet? Come on, dude.
You are in it now. Go! Who is right?
I thought there wasn't even a search feature in looking through old posts, and you could only move backward through a ton of clicks. So yeah, that's very much over the top. Unless I'm just banned from a search feature too.
Not too difficult just a simple search of Hozier does the trick. Especially when LB did it ad nauseum to mock Rozier. That said, if LB is going to use a post in 2016 to try to make it seem as though he's been fully supportive of the guy, then why is one about 10 months before that not fair game?
I hadn't even heard of Rozier on draft night. Nobody had. He was expected to go in the 2nd round. It's a testament to Danny's greatness that he was able to spot him in the dregs of a draft range everyone said was worthless. Clearly not even Danny was sold - or he wouldn't have offered 4 first round picks (including the Rozier pick and the pick that became Jaylen Brown) to try to acquire Winslow.
But I'll tell you who I HAD heard of... Irish singer-songwriter and genuine hunk Andrew Hozier-Byrne - better known by the mononym "Hozier". You might recall Hozier from his hit song "Take me to Church" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GETlFmpGwY) circa 2015 - the year Scary Terry was drafted.
Hence why around draft day that year I wondered if Boston might be better off moving the pick for a "bust" like Nik Stauskas or Andrew Bennett. Clearly not. Ainge nailed it.
Regardless, I've posted favorably about Terry over the years. I pointed out his sensational D-League stats. I pointed out that he was genuinely a Top 2 player his second attempt at summer league. I openly pondered if he'd flourish had he been in Devin Booker's role. And I was one of the first to point out that Terry might have been taking the leap this year at age 23 (usually the cut-off for when guys take a leap).
Thrilled with his performance. As good as he's been, nobody could really have expected him to be playing like an all-star in these playoffs. You knew that Simmons might struggle against our defense. You knew that Embiid had been limited by Horford during the regular season. You knew that Philly's youth and inexperience could leave them shell-shocked against a team as locked in and the Celtics. You knew that they might not recover from the emotional high of their Round 1 victory. But the BIG unknown in this series was how Boston was going to consistently get buckets. Tatum getting 20+ in 5 straight games could have been predicted on some level. Tatum has that kind of superstar pedigree. But Rozier playing like this ... that's something else. If he keeps that up, it's going to make for an interesting offseason.
I really hope we find a way to close out this series before Philly gets it together. Hell of a start to the rivalry.
I'd like to conclude by making an announcement. I neglected to remember how much of a chore posting on CelticsBlog has become for me. And so, I'd like to spend the remainder of my unretirement waiting for some nobel young steed worthy of the LarBrd33 mantel to impress me. Think of it like Willy Wonka's golden tickets or "Ready Player One's" silver apples. At the conclusion of my 60 day contract, one lucky poster may earn the right to the LarBrd33 moniker, be granted access to my account, and can carry on my legendary legacy for a new generation of CelticsBloggers. May the odds be ever in your favor.
Howdy Lar, long time no see.
As for Rozier I don't think you're correct regarding his draft stock. It's been long rumored (and at one point substantiated but I can't find that info right now) that other GMs between #16 and the next pick (#28 I believe) had their eyes on him. So while some folks didn't know him, the NBA execs certainly did and thus he wouldn't have dropped to the 2nd round. Which is why Danny took him at #16 - he was concerned that Terry wouldn't have been there at #28. Many mock drafts had him going in the back of round 1, but round 1 nonetheless. For instance NBADRAFTNET had him going 22, Basketball Insiders had him going 29 and so did CBS. The shock was that we passed up on Portis.
As for the Winslow thing, saying that it included the Nets pick is pure speculation. That's never been confirmed, even two years after the trade. http://www.businessinsider.com/celtics-trade-offer-justise-winslow-rebuild-2017-9 and http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article164353652.html. When you make assertions that can't be backed up by facts you lose your audience. There's zero evidence that Ainge offered up the pick that became Brown.
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LB, is there an application process? Hazing? Either or both would be fantastic. I have plenty of vacation time and few real-life relationships to neglect. Been waiting years for this opportunity.
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LB, is there an application process? Hazing? Either or both would be fantastic. I have plenty of vacation time and few real-life relationships to neglect. Been waiting years for this opportunity.
I’m opting to keep the scoring rubric confidential, but I will say it will be quite difficult to beat out Eddie. Years of obsessing over my legendary dingers have resulted in a LarBrd33 Historian that may know me even more intimately than my own wife.
So far close behind in 2nd place may be “Connection Problems”… the robot-god that continually interrupts my CelticBlogging to alert me that “SMF was unable to connect to the database”. I’m frequently impressed by the master trolling of “Connection Problems” and his hilarious busy server errors that prevent me from viewing this forum 8 out of 10 times.
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if LB is going to use a post in 2016 to try to make it seem as though he's been fully supportive of the guy, then why is one about 10 months before that not fair game?
Because "10 months before" puts his post before Rozier ever played a game. That seems relevant.
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LB, is there an application process? Hazing? Either or both would be fantastic. I have plenty of vacation time and few real-life relationships to neglect. Been waiting years for this opportunity.
I’m opting to keep the scoring rubric confidential, but I will say it will be quite difficult to beat out Eddie. Years of obsessing over my legendary dingers have resulted in a LarBrd33 Historian that may know me even more intimately than my own wife.
So far close behind in 2nd place may be “Connection Problems”… the robot-god that continually interrupts my CelticBlogging to alert me that “SMF was unable to connect to the database”. I’m frequently impressed by the master trolling of “Connection Problems” and his hilarious busy server errors that prevent me from viewing this forum 8 out of 10 times.
We both already know it will be me
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Still a chance they win the next 4.
Sorry your beloved 76ers lost.
I'm not saying anything else I'll just let you cry yourself to sleep.
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LB, is there an application process? Hazing? Either or both would be fantastic. I have plenty of vacation time and few real-life relationships to neglect. Been waiting years for this opportunity.
I’m opting to keep the scoring rubric confidential, but I will say it will be quite difficult to beat out Eddie. Years of obsessing over my legendary dingers have resulted in a LarBrd33 Historian that may know me even more intimately than my own wife.
So far close behind in 2nd place may be “Connection Problems”… the robot-god that continually interrupts my CelticBlogging to alert me that “SMF was unable to connect to the database”. I’m frequently impressed by the master trolling of “Connection Problems” and his hilarious busy server errors that prevent me from viewing this forum 8 out of 10 times.
Go Connection Problems!