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Title: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: Big333223 on April 12, 2018, 11:08:26 AM
I've been confused as to why this team wasn't better this season. Giannis is an MVP candidate, Khris Middleton is a borderline all star, Eric Bledsoe is good, Tony Snell and Malcolm Brogdon are decent role players. Is it really just the coaching? Hopefully they don't discover something and put it all together in the next couple of days.

Should be a fun series. It'll be fun to watch Giannis do freak things. If the Celtics play the kind of basketball they've played all year, they shouldn't have too much of a problem, even without Kyrie and Smart.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: hwangjini_1 on April 12, 2018, 12:04:48 PM
this season, the two teams played four times and the results were:

Bucks 108
Celtics 100

Celtics 96
Bucks 89

Bucks 100
Celtics 111

Celtics 102
Bucks 106
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: iadera on April 12, 2018, 12:34:20 PM
Grit and grind will win the series and we know who has it.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: feckless on April 12, 2018, 12:35:49 PM
Al Horford is the Key.  My memory is that he defends the Freak very well!

Also Rozier and Larkin have been getting good shots lately, and taking good shots but missing shots that are shots they should make.  Focus and confidence from our 2 remaining PG's.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: apc on April 12, 2018, 12:52:27 PM
The two game we lost.
First game after losing Hayward
A game where ALL our PG were out- Stevens was experimenting with Tatum and Monroe running the offense!

So not so bad I guess.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: playdream on April 12, 2018, 12:57:35 PM
We will witness The freak got exposed, this era you need to be able to shoot to save your life, the same will goes to Simmons

On the other hand my guess  is next year both Hayward and Irving expand their range way outside the Arc and we will be killing
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: bdm860 on April 12, 2018, 01:03:20 PM
It's funny to think about how the C's playoff path would have been different had they not changed the rules in recent years.

Up until the 2007 season, the 3 division winners were guaranteed the 3 top seeds.  So under those rules it would have been:

1. TOR vs 8. WAS
4. BOS vs 5. PHI

2. CLE vs 7. MIL
3. MIA vs 6. IND

I feel like this would be the hardest path for Boston, easiest path for Cleveland.  I guess I'm getting old, because it seems like just a few seasons ago when those were still the rules.


Then up until the 2016 season, it was division winners were guaranteed a top 4 seed.  So it would have been

1. TOR vs 8. WAS
4. MIA vs 5. PHI (though Philly would still have home court).

2. BOS vs 7. MIL
3. CLE vs 6. IND

Not like any path is going to be easy for the hobbled C's, but I still prefer the actual, current bracket to this one (from a C's fan perspective at least). 

Just thought it might be interesting to look at how different the brackets would look under past rules.  I really want to see a CLE/PHI matchup, just not in the ECF, under no scenario did that pop up though.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: droopdog7 on April 12, 2018, 01:03:38 PM
Al Horford is the Key.  My memory is that he defends the Freak very well!

Also Rozier and Larkin have been getting good shots lately, and taking good shots but missing shots that are shots they should make.  Focus and confidence from our 2 remaining PG's.
I feel like Giannis averaged around 35 ppg against the Celts this year.  So frankly, nobody defends him very well.

But Al tries, and makes him work, which is about all we can ask I guess.  Just don't let the others go off and we're good.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: hpantazo on April 12, 2018, 01:12:30 PM
I've been confused as to why this team wasn't better this season. Giannis is an MVP candidate, Khris Middleton is a borderline all star, Eric Bledsoe is good, Tony Snell and Malcolm Brogdon are decent role players. Is it really just the coaching? Hopefully they don't discover something and put it all together in the next couple of days.

Should be a fun series. It'll be fun to watch Giannis do freak things. If the Celtics play the kind of basketball they've played all year, they shouldn't have too much of a problem, even without Kyrie and Smart.

They don’t have enough shooting imo. Also their defense is poor. Giannis is great but not a great shooter.
Bledsoe is a mediocre outside shooter. Middleton really is the only core guy who they can rely on for perimeter shooting, and they need it badly to spread the floor for Giannis and  Bledsoe

I think th key for us will be if Rozier, Brown and Tatum can maintain some consistency in their outside shooting. We know what we’re going to get from Al , Monroe and Morris
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 12, 2018, 01:14:33 PM
Just so Hayward is ready to go in the finals against GS.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: liam on April 12, 2018, 01:21:35 PM
I've been confused as to why this team wasn't better this season. Giannis is an MVP candidate, Khris Middleton is a borderline all star, Eric Bledsoe is good, Tony Snell and Malcolm Brogdon are decent role players. Is it really just the coaching? Hopefully they don't discover something and put it all together in the next couple of days.

Should be a fun series. It'll be fun to watch Giannis do freak things. If the Celtics play the kind of basketball they've played all year, they shouldn't have too much of a problem, even without Kyrie and Smart.

The Bucks are more talented on paper than on the court. Coaching could be a huge part of this.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: SCeltic34 on April 12, 2018, 08:10:27 PM
I'm honestly not looking forward to this series.  As glad as I am to have avoided the Wizards, trying to contain GA is no simple feat and I expect him to receive a lot of favorable calls from the refs.  As I posted in a different thread, he gets to the FT line far more often than anyone else in the league besides James Harden.  Watching him get the benefit of questionable calls was infuriating enough in our regular season games.  It's going to be worse in the playoffs.  If one of our key players - Tatum, Horford, Brown - gets into foul trouble early from guarding him, it's going to put a lot of strain on our depleted roster. 

Brad needs to stick with a shortened rotation and if at all possible avoid playing our end of the bench players (esp Nader and Allen).  Larkin's defensive liabilities concern me also, but we're clearly going to need minutes from him.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: csfansince60s on April 12, 2018, 08:17:03 PM
Grit and grind and coaching will win the series and we know who has it.

TP, with an assist.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: timpiker on April 13, 2018, 09:35:35 AM
We have to keep Giannis out of the paint (same D as LeBUM) and hopefully Horford and Brown can do that...and the team D with Baynes in the lane can do that.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: BringToughnessBack on April 13, 2018, 09:42:07 AM
I cannot wait for this series to begin! I am also happy I dont have to watch us vs. the Wiz in the first round as I have a big distaste for their team. Let them be a flea on the Raptors backs.

Brown's time is coming. Expect magical things from him this postseason!
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: KGs Knee on April 13, 2018, 12:26:36 PM
Brad needs to stick with a shortened rotation and if at all possible avoid playing our end of the bench players (esp Nader and Allen).  Larkin's defensive liabilities concern me also, but we're clearly going to need minutes from him.

Yeah, I don't want to see scrubs like Ojeleye, Yabusele, Nader, Bird, or Allen out there at all. These guys have no place in a playoff game. The latter three don't even belong on a NBA roster, period.

I could live with Larkin getting minutes, and there really isn't any other choice.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: jambr380 on April 13, 2018, 12:32:55 PM
Brad needs to stick with a shortened rotation and if at all possible avoid playing our end of the bench players (esp Nader and Allen).  Larkin's defensive liabilities concern me also, but we're clearly going to need minutes from him.

Yeah, I don't want to see scrubs like Ojeleye, Yabusele, Nader, Bird, or Allen out there at all. These guys have no place in a playoff game. The latter three don't even belong on a NBA roster, period.

No worries on Bird or Allen as they are two-way players who aren't eligible for the playoffs. I would certainly take Bird on the roster, though, as he provides a different pace, strong shooting, and elite athleticism.

Of course Ojeleye is going to get lots of minutes - he has been a part of the rotation all year long. He shouldn't be lumped in with Nader and Yabusele as those two hopefully won't see the floor much (would MUCH prefer Yab to Nader, though).
I could live with Larkin getting minutes, and there really isn't any other choice.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: KGs Knee on April 13, 2018, 12:44:20 PM
Brad needs to stick with a shortened rotation and if at all possible avoid playing our end of the bench players (esp Nader and Allen).  Larkin's defensive liabilities concern me also, but we're clearly going to need minutes from him.

Yeah, I don't want to see scrubs like Ojeleye, Yabusele, Nader, Bird, or Allen out there at all. These guys have no place in a playoff game. The latter three don't even belong on a NBA roster, period.

No worries on Bird or Allen as they are two-way players who aren't eligible for the playoffs. I would certainly take Bird on the roster, though, as he provides a different pace, strong shooting, and elite athleticism.

Of course Ojeleye is going to get lots of minutes - he has been a part of the rotation all year long. He shouldn't be lumped in with Nader and Yabusele as those two hopefully won't see the floor much (would MUCH prefer Yab to Nader, though).
I could live with Larkin getting minutes, and there really isn't any other choice.


Ojeleye has been every bit as bad as the rest of those scrubs. Every minute he is on the court is painful to watch.

He might very well be a useful player someday, but that someday is not today.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: Big333223 on April 14, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
Brad needs to stick with a shortened rotation and if at all possible avoid playing our end of the bench players (esp Nader and Allen).  Larkin's defensive liabilities concern me also, but we're clearly going to need minutes from him.

Yeah, I don't want to see scrubs like Ojeleye, Yabusele, Nader, Bird, or Allen out there at all. These guys have no place in a playoff game. The latter three don't even belong on a NBA roster, period.

No worries on Bird or Allen as they are two-way players who aren't eligible for the playoffs. I would certainly take Bird on the roster, though, as he provides a different pace, strong shooting, and elite athleticism.

Of course Ojeleye is going to get lots of minutes - he has been a part of the rotation all year long. He shouldn't be lumped in with Nader and Yabusele as those two hopefully won't see the floor much (would MUCH prefer Yab to Nader, though).
I could live with Larkin getting minutes, and there really isn't any other choice.


Ojeleye has been every bit as bad as the rest of those scrubs. Every minute he is on the court is painful to watch.

He might very well be a useful player someday, but that someday is not today.

As the Celtics look for different bodies to throw at Giannis all series, I expect it will indeed be today (this series, that is). Semi's combination of strength and footspeed will definitely make him useful.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: KGs Knee on April 14, 2018, 07:14:39 PM
Brad needs to stick with a shortened rotation and if at all possible avoid playing our end of the bench players (esp Nader and Allen).  Larkin's defensive liabilities concern me also, but we're clearly going to need minutes from him.

Yeah, I don't want to see scrubs like Ojeleye, Yabusele, Nader, Bird, or Allen out there at all. These guys have no place in a playoff game. The latter three don't even belong on a NBA roster, period.

No worries on Bird or Allen as they are two-way players who aren't eligible for the playoffs. I would certainly take Bird on the roster, though, as he provides a different pace, strong shooting, and elite athleticism.

Of course Ojeleye is going to get lots of minutes - he has been a part of the rotation all year long. He shouldn't be lumped in with Nader and Yabusele as those two hopefully won't see the floor much (would MUCH prefer Yab to Nader, though).
I could live with Larkin getting minutes, and there really isn't any other choice.


Ojeleye has been every bit as bad as the rest of those scrubs. Every minute he is on the court is painful to watch.

He might very well be a useful player someday, but that someday is not today.

As the Celtics look for different bodies to throw at Giannis all series, I expect it will indeed be today (this series, that is). Semi's combination of strength and footspeed will definitely make him useful.

We'll see.  I'm not very hopeful that he's going to be a positive contributor.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: bellerephon on April 14, 2018, 09:05:04 PM
I am also a skeptic on Semi, I  hope he'll prove me wrong, but right now I have to agree that normally we wouldn't want him playing much. I see the rotation as Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Baynes, and Horford to start, with Larkin, Morris, Monroe off the bench. I think Semi will see some time in this series as they will want to throw as many bodies at Giannis as they can.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: Bobshot on April 15, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
This was a nice win today against a decent team. Beating a good team without Kyrie or Smart is a sign others are stepping up. Especially Rozier, who will have to play Kyrie's role.

These guys are trying hard, and they have a great coach. I don't know if they can get out of the first round, or the East, but the effort will be there and they will be among the elite 60 win teams next year.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: BitterJim on April 15, 2018, 09:00:50 PM
I am also a skeptic on Semi, I  hope he'll prove me wrong, but right now I have to agree that normally we wouldn't want him playing much. I see the rotation as Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Baynes, and Horford to start, with Larkin, Morris, Monroe off the bench. I think Semi will see some time in this series as they will want to throw as many bodies at Giannis as they can.

I can't wait to see Semi (and Larkin) moved out of the rotation once Smart comes back
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: SparzWizard on April 15, 2018, 09:11:35 PM
Hopefully, this game tonight showcased Kyrie Irving that he should stay long-term with the Celtics. The guys fight hard.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 15, 2018, 09:38:42 PM
Hopefully, this game tonight showcased Kyrie Irving that he should stay long-term with the Celtics. The guys fight hard.

TP....i was thinking the same ......and inspire Gordon too.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: GreenEnvy on April 16, 2018, 01:13:33 AM
Hopefully, this game tonight showcased Kyrie Irving that he should stay long-term with the Celtics. The guys fight hard.

Is that even something anyone is worried about?

In the 17 years I've followed the C's, there's only one significant player I can recall voluntarily leaving here disgruntled: Ray Allen.

Other guys leave for more money or a bigger role, and now that Brad is at the helm, most rave about him as a coach.

I cannot see a reason Kyrie would leave. He has the role he craves, the help he needs, the coach he wants, and the city/franchise to make him an NBA legend.
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: gouki88 on April 16, 2018, 01:20:35 AM
Hopefully, this game tonight showcased Kyrie Irving that he should stay long-term with the Celtics. The guys fight hard.

Is that even something anyone is worried about?

In the 17 years I've followed the C's, there's only one significant player I can recall voluntarily leaving here disgruntled: Ray Allen.

Other guys leave for more money or a bigger role, and now that Brad is at the helm, most rave about him as a coach.

I cannot see a reason Kyrie would leave. He has the role he craves, the help he needs, the coach he wants, and the city/franchise to make him an NBA legend.
I'm with you - not worried at all about him leaving
Title: Re: So It's Milwaukee
Post by: Big333223 on April 21, 2018, 03:14:47 PM
Through 3 games, Milwaukee is shooting 55% from the floor and 44% from 3, they've scored at least 106 points every game, and the Celtics are up 2-1. If the C's can put together a couple of good defensive outings, they shouldn't have any trouble putting Milwaukee away but we haven't seen it yet from them.