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Title: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: gift on March 19, 2018, 04:23:38 PM
The Celtics are currently on track to have the #27 pick in the first round of the 2018 NBA draft. It occurred to me that the 27th pick has turned out to provide useful players lately. So I took a look at the history of the 27th pick in the NBA draft. Obviously, this has no bearing on who is ultimately taken at 27 this year. But the fact is that in every draft, good players slide in favor of lesser players with more perceived promise. And the end of the first round seems to be a place where some of those players are ultimately picked.

Going through the list, I see a bunch of "useful" players. And the Celtics could stand to nab a cheap, useful player to supplement a developing core over the next couple of years.

Who might be that player, picked at #27, this year?

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/history-of-the-nba-draft-by-pick/history-of-the-nba-draft-pick-number-27/ (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/history-of-the-nba-draft-by-pick/history-of-the-nba-draft-pick-number-27/)

Number 27

Year Player School/Country – Team

2017 Kyle Kuzma, Utah – Brooklyn Nets
2016 Pascal Siakam, New Mexico State – Toronto Raptors
2015 Larry Nance Jr., Wyoming – Los Angeles Lakers
2014 Bogdan Bogdanovic, Serbia – Phoenix Suns
2013 Rudy Gobert, France – Denver Nuggets
2012 Arnett Moultrie, Mississippi St. – Miami HEAT
2011 JaJuan Johnson, Purdue University – New Jersey Nets
2010 Jordan Crawford, Xavier University – New Jersey Nets

2000’s

2009 DeMarre Carroll, University of Missouri – Memphis Grizzlies
2008 Darrell Arthur, Kansas – New Orleans Hornets
2007 Arron Afflalo, UCLA – Detroit Pistons
2006 Sergio Rodriguez, Spain – Phoenix Suns
2005 Linas Kleiza, Missouri – Portland Trail Blazers
2004 Sasha Vujacic, Snaidero Udine (Italy) – L.A. Lakers
2003 Kendrick Perkins, Clifton J. Ozen HS (Texas) – Memphis Grizzlies
2002 Chris Jefferies, Fresno State – L.A. Lakers
2001 Jamaal Tinsley, Iowa State – Memphis Grizzlies
2000 Primoz Brezec, Slovenia – Indiana Pacers

1990’s

1999 Jumaine Jones, Georgia – Atlanta Hawks
1998 Vladimir Stepania, Republic of Georgia – Seattle Supersonics
1997 Jacque Vaughn, Kansas – Utah Jazz
1996 Brian Evans, Indiana – Orlando Magic
1995 Mario Bennett, Arizona State – Phoenix Suns
1994 Brooks Thompson, Oklahoma State – Orlando Magic
1993 Malcolm Mackey, Georgia Tech – Phoenix Suns
1992 Byron Houston, Oklahoma State – Chicago Bulls
1991 Pete Chilcutt, North Carolina – Portland Trail Blazers
1990 Elden Campbell, Clemson – L.A. Lakers

1980’s

1989 Kenny Battle, Illinois – Detroit Pistons

2nd round:
1988 Shelton Jones, St. John’s University – San Antonio Spurs
1987 Nate Blackwell, Temple University – San Antonio Spurs
1986 Dennis Rodman, Southeastern Oklahoma State University – Detroit Pistons
1985 Dwayne McClain, Villanova University – Indiana Pacers
1984 Ron Anderson, California State University, Fresno – Cleveland Cavaliers
1983 John Garris, Boston College – Cleveland Cavaliers
1982 Fred Roberts, Brigham Young University – Milwaukee Bucks
1981 Howard Wood, University of Tennessee – Utah Jazz
1980 John Stroud, University of Mississippi – Houston Rockets

1970’s

1979 Reggie Carter, St. John’s University – New York Knicks
1978 Wayne Radford, Indiana University – Indiana Pacers
1977 Glenn Williams, St. John’s University – Milwaukee Bucks
1976 Phil Hicks, Tulane University – Houston Rockets
1975 Walter Luckett, Ohio University – Detroit Pistons
1974 Leon Benbow, Jacksonville University – Chicago Bulls
1973 Tom Ingelsby, Villanova University – Atlanta Hawks
1972 Dennis Wuycik, University of North Carolina – Boston Celtics
1971 Richard Fisher, Colorado State University – Portland Trail Blazers
1970 Fred Taylor, University of Texas-Pan American – Phoenix Suns

1960’s

1969 Dick Garrett, Southern Illinois University – L.A. Lakers
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: CelticsElite on March 19, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
Jajuan johnson really wasn't very useful. And kuzma was an anamoly
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: Birdman on March 19, 2018, 05:47:10 PM
In other words the 27th pick is a huge gamble..rather have Tyreke Evans than that pick 😁
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: Androslav on March 19, 2018, 06:18:58 PM
Last 5 choices really gave tremendous value for the 27th pick to their teams.
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: colincb on March 19, 2018, 07:34:42 PM
Pretty clear that pick #27 is a much better pick now than in the past. Before the new millennium, there were very slim pickings. The rise of the international game seems the be the biggest reason off the top of my head.
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: nickagneta on March 19, 2018, 08:40:01 PM
Hope we don't get the 28th pick. Obviously good picks end at pick 27

History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 28
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Number 28

Year Player School/Country – Team

2017 Tony Bradley, North Carolina – Los Angeles Lakers
2016 Skal Labissiere, Kentucky – Phoenix Suns
2015 R.J. Hunter, Georgia State – Boston Celtics
2014 C.J. Wilcox, Washington – Los Angeles Clippers
2013 Livio Jean-Charles, France – San Antonio Spurs
2012 Perry Jones III, Baylor – Oklahoma City Thunder
2011 Norris Cole, Cleveland State University – Chicago Bulls
2010 Greivis Vasquez, University of Maryland – Memphis Grizzlies
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: colincb on March 19, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Hope we don't get the 28th pick. Obviously good picks end at pick 27

History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 28
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Number 28

Year Player School/Country – Team

2017 Tony Bradley, North Carolina – Los Angeles Lakers
2016 Skal Labissiere, Kentucky – Phoenix Suns
2015 R.J. Hunter, Georgia State – Boston Celtics
2014 C.J. Wilcox, Washington – Los Angeles Clippers
2013 Livio Jean-Charles, France – San Antonio Spurs
2012 Perry Jones III, Baylor – Oklahoma City Thunder
2011 Norris Cole, Cleveland State University – Chicago Bulls
2010 Greivis Vasquez, University of Maryland – Memphis Grizzlies

Wow. What a difference.
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: Phantom255x on March 19, 2018, 10:09:14 PM
In other words the 27th pick is a huge gamble..rather have Tyreke Evans than that pick 😁

As much as he'd help, I really don't think it would have mattered especially with all the injuries adding up  :(
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: Greyman on March 20, 2018, 06:26:49 AM
1986 Dennis Rodman, Southeastern Oklahoma State University – Detroit Pistons
1985 Dwayne McClain, Villanova University – Indiana Pacers

Dwayne came to Australia after a varied career and made a name with the Sydney Kings. Also had a child with a girl I used to teach. A universe away from Rodman. Dennis has never touched a girl I taught to my knowledge.

Shows the uncertainty of the 27th pick.
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: ederson on March 20, 2018, 08:38:20 AM
1994 .Brooks Thompson 😔 RIP ... I remember him playing in Greece ... He averaged something like 30p 10as 40%3p and his coached released him because he wasn't a team player...

Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: Moranis on March 20, 2018, 09:31:45 AM
Hope we don't get the 28th pick. Obviously good picks end at pick 27

History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 28
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Number 28

Year Player School/Country – Team

2017 Tony Bradley, North Carolina – Los Angeles Lakers
2016 Skal Labissiere, Kentucky – Phoenix Suns
2015 R.J. Hunter, Georgia State – Boston Celtics
2014 C.J. Wilcox, Washington – Los Angeles Clippers
2013 Livio Jean-Charles, France – San Antonio Spurs
2012 Perry Jones III, Baylor – Oklahoma City Thunder
2011 Norris Cole, Cleveland State University – Chicago Bulls
2010 Greivis Vasquez, University of Maryland – Memphis Grizzlies
and here are the pick #26's since 2000 for good measure

2017 - Caleb Swanigan
2016 - Furkan Korkmaz
2015 - Nikola Milutinov
2014 - PJ Hairston
2013 - Andre Roberson
2012 - Miles Plumlee
2011 - Jordan Hamilton
2010 - Qunicy Pondexter
2009 - Taj Gibson
2008 - George Hill
2007 - Aaron Brooks
2006 - Jordan Farmar
2005 - Jason Maxiell
2004 - Kevin Martin
2003 - Ndudi Ebi
2002 - John Salmons
2001 - Smauel Dalembert
2000 - Mamadou N'Diaye

The bolded are the at least useful players.
Title: Re: History of the NBA Draft – Pick Number 27
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 01, 2018, 01:17:02 PM
Speaking of #27 (where Gobert was picked), 2013 draft wasn't that bad in retrospect. Have seen Oladipo (#2), McCollum (#10), Giannis (#15) and Gobert (#27) starring in these playoffs. Adams (#12) was a beast on the boards too.

In other words the 27th pick is a huge gamble..rather have Tyreke Evans than that pick 😁

At the deadline, this was my thought. With all the injuries though, really glad pick was kept!