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Title: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: Birdman on February 11, 2018, 08:20:08 AM
Geez...lost another one..hope all those late first and 2nd round picks are worth it...still don't know why Danny hold onto them picks like gold..those players that pick that late don't usually make it in nba..rather have a proven player than a project..
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 11, 2018, 09:32:37 AM
I think guys worry about playing time coming here.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: celticinorlando on February 11, 2018, 09:46:12 AM
Doesn't seem like Danny is to motivated to bringing in someone. Maybe he thinks Hayward has a better chance to come back
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: GreenWarrior on February 11, 2018, 10:10:43 AM
you'd think Marco Belinelli would do anything to come here. all he has to do is shoot jumpers. 
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: RJ87 on February 11, 2018, 10:46:21 AM
Doesn't seem like Danny is to motivated to bringing in someone. Maybe he thinks Hayward has a better chance to come back

That's an awful lot of pressure to put on a guy coming off of a major injury.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: ChillyWilly on February 11, 2018, 10:55:18 AM
Why was everyone so excited to sign Marco? Below avg NBA player who can't play a lick of defense and isn't really a knockdown 3pt shooter as everyone keeps claiming he is.

I'm not even sure how a player like him will find minutes on a top playoff team.

Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 11, 2018, 10:58:35 AM
Geez...lost another one..hope all those late first and 2nd round picks are worth it...still don't know why Danny hold onto them picks like gold..those players that pick that late don't usually make it in nba..rather have a proven player than a project..

I'd be interested in knowing how strongly Danny pursued Belinelli (if at all).  If he did pursue him I guess I am surprised that Philly got him.

Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: rondofan1255 on February 11, 2018, 11:26:46 AM
Interesting after the GSW rumors.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 12, 2018, 07:53:26 PM
Per Bobby Marks:  Marco Belinelli will have a salary of $776,217 and a cap hit of $490,461.

So it looks like the Sixers got him for the vet minimum rather than having to use their room exception.  He'll be a nice upgrade for their bench. 
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: celticsclay on February 12, 2018, 08:03:41 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 12, 2018, 09:13:16 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense?  The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup. 
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: RodyTur10 on February 13, 2018, 03:58:10 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense? The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup.

I agree. And I'm a little worried that veterans already see Philadelphia as a good destination.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: celticsclay on February 13, 2018, 04:08:37 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense? The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup.

I agree. And I'm a little worried that veterans already see Philadelphia as a good destination.

Jesus guys are we really going to go sky is falling mode over everything? By a lot of advanced metrics he is one of the worst players in the league.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: Rondo9 on February 14, 2018, 02:17:49 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense? The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup.

I agree. And I'm a little worried that veterans already see Philadelphia as a good destination.

Jesus guys are we really going to go sky is falling mode over everything? By a lot of advanced metrics he is one of the worst players in the league.

When you are on a losing streak, all the players on your team suck while the team with the inferior record looks good.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on February 14, 2018, 02:23:05 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense? The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup.

I agree. And I'm a little worried that veterans already see Philadelphia as a good destination.

Jesus guys are we really going to go sky is falling mode over everything? By a lot of advanced metrics he is one of the worst players in the league.

He's my uncle
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: celticsclay on February 14, 2018, 02:30:46 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense? The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup.

I agree. And I'm a little worried that veterans already see Philadelphia as a good destination.

Jesus guys are we really going to go sky is falling mode over everything? By a lot of advanced metrics he is one of the worst players in the league.

He's my uncle

Strong post Tars. TP
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on February 14, 2018, 02:33:45 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense? The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup.

I agree. And I'm a little worried that veterans already see Philadelphia as a good destination.

Jesus guys are we really going to go sky is falling mode over everything? By a lot of advanced metrics he is one of the worst players in the league.

He's my uncle

Strong post Tars. TP

If you chuckled, I did my job today.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: Snakehead on February 14, 2018, 02:48:25 PM
Said a lot earlier in the year I hoped we got him and now am disapointed they didn't.  We need the shooting and offense. 

We can use trading some defense for offense.  It's funny people are so afraid of trading any defense for offense when we so clearly can afford to and usually here around Celticsblog I feel like I'm one of the few people who pay attention to the defense going on in the games anyways lol.

Right now we simply don't have enough knock down shooting.

As far as the sky falling, I think Smart is a way better player than most of this forum thinks as well, given what I saw when they went on a tiny run after he went out (with Rozier playing the play making/passing game of his life to get to 10 assists and since has fallen off from hard) and people here acted like the team was better without him or could practically just cut him entirely at that point.  Even on offense he matters because he is the second best passer/play making guard on the team behind Kyrie (with most other players being mostly completely unreliable at it).  On defense he's one of the best in the league and his energy is top level in the NBA.  So he will help a lot.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: footey on February 14, 2018, 03:09:15 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense? The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup.

I agree. And I'm a little worried that veterans already see Philadelphia as a good destination.

Jesus guys are we really going to go sky is falling mode over everything? By a lot of advanced metrics he is one of the worst players in the league.

He's my uncle

Thought Drew was your uncle.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on February 14, 2018, 03:16:03 PM
I don't really think he is moving the needle for anyone. He is so bad on defense it offsets his shooting. Maybe we would have been the one team that could have covered him on defense some, but not losing sleep over it.
Why would we be the one team that could cover him on defense? The Sixers are 4th in defense and have Embiid.  Belinelli slots in nicely as Redick's backup.

I agree. And I'm a little worried that veterans already see Philadelphia as a good destination.

Jesus guys are we really going to go sky is falling mode over everything? By a lot of advanced metrics he is one of the worst players in the league.

He's my uncle

Thought Drew was your uncle.

Course.  It's a big Italian family, footey.   8)
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: GreenEnvy on February 14, 2018, 03:32:39 PM
Belinelli doesn’t move the needle like Evans would have. He would have been a decent plan C for us but not worth losing sleep over.

He may help Philly make the playoffs, but I don’t believe he’s a difference-maker come playoff time.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 14, 2018, 03:44:29 PM
Belinelli doesn’t move the needle like Evans would have. He would have been a decent plan C for us but not worth losing sleep over.

He may help Philly make the playoffs, but I don’t believe he’s a difference-maker come playoff time.
The Sixers are currently 7th seed.  3 games over the 9th seed but only 2 games out of the 4th seed.  Belinelli could help them get home court in the 1st round.   
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: TA9 on February 15, 2018, 06:07:56 AM
Belinelli's stats from last night against Miami: 28 min, 17 PTS, 7-12 FG, 3-5 3PT.

But no, let us keep Nader instead, because Belinelli, obviously, isn't worth it...

He would definitely have added some scoring punch to our bench.
Title: Re: Marco Belinelli to Philadelphia
Post by: hodgy03038 on February 15, 2018, 06:45:38 AM
We are in trouble if we face Philadelphia anybody in the 1st round.