I do like this game's pace much better. Prior to the season everyone talked about pushing the ball every possession, but we've had a pretty slow pace this season so far.
It seems like every game, regardless of the quality of opponent, there are stretches where I have to remind myself of regression to the mean and that the opposing team can't keep shooting 95% from the field. Since it feels like this happens every game...is my irritated fan perception just biased (and this happens with all teams in all games) or is there something legitimately problematic with our defense? A lot of the times, it even seems like we're playing decent defense with a hand in faces and solid rotations...
I hope Celtics Killer Bobby Portis can be contained tonight...
So, why are we now back to not staggering Al with the second unit at the beginning of the second quarter? Just no consistency whatsoever with these rotations.
How do the Bulls have a better bench than the Celtics?
So, why are we now back to not staggering Al with the second unit at the beginning of the second quarter? Just no consistency whatsoever with these rotations.
Theis makes Al largely redundant
I think I may hate Rozier now. Stands around on offense unless he's dribbling for a dumb shot and only goes for steals on defense.
So, why are we now back to not staggering Al with the second unit at the beginning of the second quarter? Just no consistency whatsoever with these rotations.
Theis makes Al largely redundant
Redundant? I mean, I guess in the sense that they have similar skillsets, sure, but Al is probably better in every single facet of that skillset than Theis.
That's like saying that Rozier makes Kyrie (or even IT last year) redundant - I'd much rather have Kyrie, IT, or Al out there than Rozier or Theis, especially with a primary bench group.
I think I may hate Rozier now. Stands around on offense unless he's dribbling for a dumb shot and only goes for steals on defense.
Seems like Brown is always short on the second FT
Nobody is surprised that we're getting our ass kicked in this quarter. Might have something to do with these trash lineups Brad continues to roll out to start the 2nd.
Nobody is surprised that we're getting our ass kicked in this quarter. Might have something to do with these trash lineups Brad continues to roll out to start the 2nd.
Yeah, this flip-flopping with the bench rotations and the staggering of the starters is just baffling.
He went with the Al/Tatum staggering with the main bench group for several games, and it seemingly worked. Why he suddenly changed his mind is beyond me.
My God, the officiating this year has been atrocious. What an embarrassing display of incompetence.
Nobody is surprised that we're getting our ass kicked in this quarter. Might have something to do with these trash lineups Brad continues to roll out to start the 2nd.
Yeah, this flip-flopping with the bench rotations and the staggering of the starters is just baffling.
He went with the Al/Tatum staggering with the main bench group for several games, and it seemingly worked. Why he suddenly changed his mind is beyond me.
Rozier is now 2 for 15 in his last 2 and a half games.
Gotta build this lead big enough that even our bench can't blow it.
Jaylen!
Nobody is surprised that we're getting our ass kicked in this quarter. Might have something to do with these trash lineups Brad continues to roll out to start the 2nd.
Yeah, this flip-flopping with the bench rotations and the staggering of the starters is just baffling.
He went with the Al/Tatum staggering with the main bench group for several games, and it seemingly worked. Why he suddenly changed his mind is beyond me.
Serious question, because I see this comment a lot...is it possible that Brad is in the same mindset as the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, etc...that essentially the regular season is pointless other than preparing for the post-season? Just like he's shifting our team to only three positions...he's only trying to shift the team to a group of players that can succeed in any type of lineup? So he's using 82 games to refine and determine which players can make that shift and which ones can't? And if we need to use the DPE or trades to find other players that can do it, we'll glean that info as well.
Don't really know if the strategy will ultimately be good or bad...but other than home court advantage, since we're almost guaranteed to make the playoffs in this conference...isn't this a better use of our regular season than simply trying to have the best record in the Eastern conference?
Jaylen is shooting 47% from the floor. 40% from three. But somehow can't even make 2/3 of his FTAs? It's like Bowen all over again. Minus the dirty play.
Brown to Tatum! The future!
Brown to Tatum! The future!
When Kyrie does his little backpedal after making a 3, I want to stab myself in the eye.
Now this looks like the team on the streak!
Brown to Tatum! The future!
My thoughts exactly. TP
Step on their neck and blow 'em out. No messing around. Our starters need rest.
Step on their neck and blow 'em out. No messing around. Our starters need rest.
TATUM with the neck step!
Nobody is surprised that we're getting our ass kicked in this quarter. Might have something to do with these trash lineups Brad continues to roll out to start the 2nd.
Yeah, this flip-flopping with the bench rotations and the staggering of the starters is just baffling.
He went with the Al/Tatum staggering with the main bench group for several games, and it seemingly worked. Why he suddenly changed his mind is beyond me.
Serious question, because I see this comment a lot...is it possible that Brad is in the same mindset as the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, etc...that essentially the regular season is pointless other than preparing for the post-season? Just like he's shifting our team to only three positions...he's only trying to shift the team to a group of players that can succeed in any type of lineup? So he's using 82 games to refine and determine which players can make that shift and which ones can't? And if we need to use the DPE or trades to find other players that can do it, we'll glean that info as well.
Don't really know if the strategy will ultimately be good or bad...but other than home court advantage, since we're almost guaranteed to make the playoffs in this conference...isn't this a better use of our regular season than simply trying to have the best record in the Eastern conference?
Well, we're not good enough to not care about the regular season. Not yet. Especially with Hayward's injury. Brad doesn't strike me as someone who'd be complacent about poor regular season effort and losses. He obviously knows a lot more than we do, but these strange lineups will never show up in the playoffs, and it doesn't seem to be beneficial for these inexperienced players to try to play disorganized ball together because they don't have enough talent to play as a cohesive unit.
Just my take. TP for being a new guy though :D
sleigh bells....
I do love that Kyrie has taken Brad's analytic philosophy to heart and is taking more open threes. He's already at a career pace in attempts per game, but he's really upped his three point attempts even more recently with great success.
Theis is having a hell of a game!His box score is crazy, minutes, rebounds points
Theis is having a hell of a game!His box score is crazy, minutes, rebounds points
Rozier is the opposite guy needs to stop jacking so many shots in his minutes
Nobody is surprised that we're getting our ass kicked in this quarter. Might have something to do with these trash lineups Brad continues to roll out to start the 2nd.
Yeah, this flip-flopping with the bench rotations and the staggering of the starters is just baffling.
He went with the Al/Tatum staggering with the main bench group for several games, and it seemingly worked. Why he suddenly changed his mind is beyond me.
Serious question, because I see this comment a lot...is it possible that Brad is in the same mindset as the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, etc...that essentially the regular season is pointless other than preparing for the post-season? Just like he's shifting our team to only three positions...he's only trying to shift the team to a group of players that can succeed in any type of lineup? So he's using 82 games to refine and determine which players can make that shift and which ones can't? And if we need to use the DPE or trades to find other players that can do it, we'll glean that info as well.
Don't really know if the strategy will ultimately be good or bad...but other than home court advantage, since we're almost guaranteed to make the playoffs in this conference...isn't this a better use of our regular season than simply trying to have the best record in the Eastern conference?
Well, we're not good enough to not care about the regular season. Not yet. Especially with Hayward's injury. Brad doesn't strike me as someone who'd be complacent about poor regular season effort and losses. He obviously knows a lot more than we do, but these strange lineups will never show up in the playoffs, and it doesn't seem to be beneficial for these inexperienced players to try to play disorganized ball together because they don't have enough talent to play as a cohesive unit.
Just my take. TP for being a new guy though :D
Thanks for my first TP.
I'm not suggesting Stevens doesn't care about season effort (opposite actually)...but is he willing to sacrifice a handful of wins this season, in the pursuit of learning more about which combinations will work...I think so.
When I'm frustrated with some of these lineups...I think: Brad Stevens is a smart, basketball guy...he spends more time thinking about this stuff than I do. So I assume he too, can easily notice that some of these 2nd quarter lineups are garbage...so why do it?
It's super frustrating as a fan to watch a scientist experiment with trials that feel like they are bound to fail before it even begins...but if we're not going to have the talent to match the Warriors and Cavs (which we don't)...we need some other advantage...and perhaps a high level of plug-n-play chemistry that can overcome foul trouble, injuries to stars, etc is that advantage.
But then again...I'm new around here...
I do love that Kyrie has taken Brad's analytic philosophy to heart and is taking more open threes. He's already at a career pace in attempts per game, but he's really upped his three point attempts even more recently with great success.
I don't think any one had to twist his arm. Guys want to jack 3s, and Boston's system is predicated on letting them do it. Probably in part why he and everyone else wants to play here.
Theis is having a hell of a game!His box score is crazy, minutes, rebounds points
Rozier is the opposite guy needs to stop jacking so many shots in his minutes
It is crazy good....
Closing in on a double double!
Theis is having a hell of a game!His box score is crazy, minutes, rebounds points
Rozier is the opposite guy needs to stop jacking so many shots in his minutes
It is crazy good....
Closing in on a double double!
Yup Theis is doing a great job out there. Maybe it's the new personally fitted mask.
Tunnel vision Rozier is at it again. He's lucky that went in.
Tunnel vision Rozier is at it again. He's lucky that went in.
Nobody is surprised that we're getting our ass kicked in this quarter. Might have something to do with these trash lineups Brad continues to roll out to start the 2nd.
Yeah, this flip-flopping with the bench rotations and the staggering of the starters is just baffling.
He went with the Al/Tatum staggering with the main bench group for several games, and it seemingly worked. Why he suddenly changed his mind is beyond me.
Serious question, because I see this comment a lot...is it possible that Brad is in the same mindset as the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, etc...that essentially the regular season is pointless other than preparing for the post-season? Just like he's shifting our team to only three positions...he's only trying to shift the team to a group of players that can succeed in any type of lineup? So he's using 82 games to refine and determine which players can make that shift and which ones can't? And if we need to use the DPE or trades to find other players that can do it, we'll glean that info as well.
Don't really know if the strategy will ultimately be good or bad...but other than home court advantage, since we're almost guaranteed to make the playoffs in this conference...isn't this a better use of our regular season than simply trying to have the best record in the Eastern conference?
Well, we're not good enough to not care about the regular season. Not yet. Especially with Hayward's injury. Brad doesn't strike me as someone who'd be complacent about poor regular season effort and losses. He obviously knows a lot more than we do, but these strange lineups will never show up in the playoffs, and it doesn't seem to be beneficial for these inexperienced players to try to play disorganized ball together because they don't have enough talent to play as a cohesive unit.
Just my take. TP for being a new guy though :D
Thanks for my first TP.
I'm not suggesting Stevens doesn't care about season effort (opposite actually)...but is he willing to sacrifice a handful of wins this season, in the pursuit of learning more about which combinations will work...I think so.
When I'm frustrated with some of these lineups...I think: Brad Stevens is a smart, basketball guy...he spends more time thinking about this stuff than I do. So I assume he too, can easily notice that some of these 2nd quarter lineups are garbage...so why do it?
It's super frustrating as a fan to watch a scientist experiment with trials that feel like they are bound to fail before it even begins...but if we're not going to have the talent to match the Warriors and Cavs (which we don't)...we need some other advantage...and perhaps a high level of plug-n-play chemistry that can overcome foul trouble, injuries to stars, etc is that advantage.
But then again...I'm new around here...
Here's another TP for a good discussion.
I definitely think this type of philosophy plays into it. Brad (for better or worse) has always done a ton of experimenting with the rotations in the regular season, and I think minute management is also a part of it.
But here's the thing that I don't get - most of these lineups won't even be a factor in the playoffs. Figuring that Morris gets healthy and not counting on Hayward coming back, we'll only be playing 8-10 guys deep in our rotation in the playoffs (Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Morris, Horford, Rozier, Smart,Semi (rarely), Theis, and Baynes), and generally five to six of those guys (Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Morris, Horford, and Smart) will take up the majority of the minutes with Baynes, Theis, Rozier, and Semi all having their playing time dependent upon matchups or if one of the main guys is having a bad night.
So when we see these lineups of all bench units that are costing us games due to the huge deficit they build up, I don't think this rationale can really justify that. Especially with the injuries we've dealt with and the fact that we're going to be seeing much more integration of starter/bench lineups in the playoffs, I think simply having more integrated units is a good compromise between experimenting with differing lineups/managing minutes and still not harming our chances of winning games.
Good win, quiet board...Its busier when there something to complain about ;)
Good win, quiet board...Its busier when there something to complain about ;)
Good win, quiet board...Its busier when there something to complain about ;)
Christmas festivities. Can someone give me a rundown?
Good win, quiet board...Its busier when there something to complain about ;)
Christmas festivities. Can someone give me a rundown?
It was close in the 1st half and turned into a blowout in the 3rd quarter. Jaylen had a very good come back game and Theis looked very good with a double double and a new face mask.
Good win, quiet board...Its busier when there something to complain about ;)
Christmas festivities. Can someone give me a rundown?
It was close in the 1st half and turned into a blowout in the 3rd quarter. Jaylen had a very good come back game and Theis looked very good with a double double and a new face mask.
Did the offense look crisper? Did the defense look more in sync?
Good win, quiet board...Its busier when there something to complain about ;)
Christmas festivities. Can someone give me a rundown?
It was close in the 1st half and turned into a blowout in the 3rd quarter. Jaylen had a very good come back game and Theis looked very good with a double double and a new face mask.
Did the offense look crisper? Did the defense look more in sync?
Good win, quiet board...Its busier when there something to complain about ;)
Christmas festivities. Can someone give me a rundown?
It was close in the 1st half and turned into a blowout in the 3rd quarter. Jaylen had a very good come back game and Theis looked very good with a double double and a new face mask.
Did the offense look crisper? Did the defense look more in sync?
The offense look much better through the whole game. The defense was better in the 2nd half. Defense still has a ways to go. Theis was a monster on the glass.
Good win, quiet board...Its busier when there something to complain about ;)
Christmas festivities. Can someone give me a rundown?
It was close in the 1st half and turned into a blowout in the 3rd quarter. Jaylen had a very good come back game and Theis looked very good with a double double and a new face mask.
Did the offense look crisper? Did the defense look more in sync?
The offense look much better through the whole game. The defense was better in the 2nd half. Defense still has a ways to go. Theis was a monster on the glass.
liam was a monster in the thread.
Good win, quiet board...tis the season
Good win, quiet board...tis the season
didn't you hear!? christmas is back!
TPGood win, quiet board...tis the season
didn't you hear!? christmas is back!
I will be wearing green...
Merry Christmas and Happy holidays everyone!
This board is way more active for losses than for wins.
This board is way more active for losses than for wins.
As others have mentioned, Xmas definitely had something to do with. I was able to watch the replay on League Pass last night so I stayed away from the forums (and all forms of media that might give away the score).
Happy to see our offense break out against a streaking team like the Bulls. I was also happy to see the refs let them play. It seems our last few games have been inundated with foul calls (especially against us). This was pretty smooth overall. Great win for the Cs!!
This board is way more active for losses than for wins.
As others have mentioned, Xmas definitely had something to do with. I was able to watch the replay on League Pass last night so I stayed away from the forums (and all forms of media that might give away the score).
Happy to see our offense break out against a streaking team like the Bulls. I was also happy to see the refs let them play. It seems our last few games have been inundated with foul calls (especially against us). This was pretty smooth overall. Great win for the Cs!!
This board is way more active for losses than for wins.
As others have mentioned, Xmas definitely had something to do with. I was able to watch the replay on League Pass last night so I stayed away from the forums (and all forms of media that might give away the score).
Happy to see our offense break out against a streaking team like the Bulls. I was also happy to see the refs let them play. It seems our last few games have been inundated with foul calls (especially against us). This was pretty smooth overall. Great win for the Cs!!
That may have played a small part in it, but he is absolutely correct.
This board/game threads are far less active after a win, particularly a blowout win.
This board is way more active for losses than for wins.
As others have mentioned, Xmas definitely had something to do with. I was able to watch the replay on League Pass last night so I stayed away from the forums (and all forms of media that might give away the score).
Happy to see our offense break out against a streaking team like the Bulls. I was also happy to see the refs let them play. It seems our last few games have been inundated with foul calls (especially against us). This was pretty smooth overall. Great win for the Cs!!
That may have played a small part in it, but he is absolutely correct.
This board/game threads are far less active after a win, particularly a blowout win.
I don’t think this is really true. Our most active time this year was during the win streak.
ha, it never left. folks simply started acknowledging other faiths.Good win, quiet board...tis the season
didn't you hear!? christmas is back!