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Title: First trimester MVP?
Post by: celticsclay on December 12, 2017, 02:40:01 PM
I have Harden running away with this award at the moment. Houston has best record in league. They somehow have quietly won 10 in a row. They have played the majority of the season without Chris Paul and now have transitioned in him and not skipped a bit. Given the growing pains of OKC, sliding Paul in so seamlessly is very very impressive. If Harden keeps this up there is no way he won't win (and he was robbed last year probably in retrospect)

Other contenders that are quite distant imo
Giannis
Lebron
Kyrie
Durant...
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: Moranis on December 12, 2017, 02:52:05 PM
My voting would be

Harden
James
Aldridge
Giannis
Irving

And I agree that Harden has a pretty big lead on everyone else.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: nickagneta on December 12, 2017, 03:18:43 PM
Harden
Lebron


Durant
Curry

Kyrie
Aldridge
DeRozan
Giannis
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: wayupnorth on December 12, 2017, 03:23:36 PM
Harden
Lebron


Durant
Curry

Kyrie
Aldridge
DeRozan
Giannis

I agree with your list, but I don't think Curry or KD should even be considered for this particular award given the strength of the team.

You could take either off of the team, and it is still an incredible unit.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: green_bballers13 on December 12, 2017, 03:26:58 PM
Harden
Lebron


Durant
Curry

Kyrie
Aldridge
DeRozan
Giannis

I agree with your list, but I don't think Curry or KD should even be considered for this particular award given the strength of the team.

You could take either off of the team, and it is still an incredible unit.

Crazy how good Harden has become since he left OKC. I can't read Giannis' name without thinking about Kelly Olynyk.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 12, 2017, 04:05:47 PM
Harden
Lebron


Durant
Curry

Kyrie
Aldridge
DeRozan
Giannis

I agree with your list, but I don't think Curry or KD should even be considered for this particular award given the strength of the team.

You could take either off of the team, and it is still an incredible unit.
Agree, KD and Durant are both in that next tier with Aldridge and Derozan. Lebron and Harden are so far ahead of everyone else its almost not worth mentioning the rest.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: PhoSita on December 12, 2017, 04:09:29 PM
Harden.  There's nobody else that's really close at this point.

Best player on the best team, best counting stats, most deserving.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: pearljammer10 on December 12, 2017, 04:12:53 PM
Harden

Lebron
Giannis

Aldridge
Irving
Boogie
Durant
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 12, 2017, 04:17:26 PM
Harden.  There's nobody else that's really close at this point.

Best player on the best team, best counting stats, most deserving.
Lebron is close. Harden is in the driver seat, but James has been absolutely incredible in his own right.

Jame: 28/9/8 on 63% efg for a 19-8 team

vs.

Harden: 32/10/5 on .57 efg for a 21-4 team.

Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: Big333223 on December 12, 2017, 04:42:24 PM
Harden.  There's nobody else that's really close at this point.

Best player on the best team, best counting stats, most deserving.
Lebron is close. Harden is in the driver seat, but James has been absolutely incredible in his own right.

Jame: 28/9/8 on 63% efg for a 19-8 team

vs.

Harden: 32/10/5 on .57 efg for a 21-4 team.
This. I'd go Harden as well but James is having one of his best statistical seasons ever and he's got the Cavs on the right track while still missing an all star.

Then I've got Durant and Curry somewhere in there. They're both just so darn good. I can't penalize them that much for playing with one another.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: celticsclay on December 12, 2017, 05:08:34 PM
Harden.  There's nobody else that's really close at this point.

Best player on the best team, best counting stats, most deserving.
Lebron is close. Harden is in the driver seat, but James has been absolutely incredible in his own right.

Jame: 28/9/8 on 63% efg for a 19-8 team

vs.

Harden: 32/10/5 on .57 efg for a 21-4 team.

Im wondering if Lue will actually be smart enough to lower Lebron's minutes substantially in the second half of the season. He is currently over 37 minutes a game. You would think Thomas taking some shot and Lebron's minutes going down might create even further distance between Harden and everyone else. Then again, I kind of thought Harden's numbers would have gone down with Paul coming on to the team...
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: gouki88 on December 12, 2017, 05:19:07 PM
Harden comfortably. Then LeBron. Followed by Durant, Kyrie, Giannis, LaMarcus, DeMarcus and Curry in no particular order.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: greece66 on December 12, 2017, 05:37:29 PM
This is bball ref's MVP tracker

(https://i.gyazo.com/742f9a41872cb9f048be2e46b8a0cb0f.png)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html?sr&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool#players
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: RodyTur10 on December 12, 2017, 05:45:43 PM
This is bball ref's MVP tracker

(https://i.gyazo.com/742f9a41872cb9f048be2e46b8a0cb0f.png)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html?sr&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool#players

Capela being on that list is a further argument for Harden.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: greece66 on December 12, 2017, 06:58:15 PM
This is bball ref's MVP tracker

(https://i.gyazo.com/742f9a41872cb9f048be2e46b8a0cb0f.png)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html?sr&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool#players

Capela being on that list is a further argument for Harden.

Someone posted it on reddit , saying that Capella entered the top-10 today; I take  it that outside the top-4 the differences are small enough for the rankings to change often and matter less. But yes, I agree that Harden has helped Capella get better.

I'm with Pho on this one, unless there is some dramatic change in the rest of the season Harden is winning MVP. The second person in the race is Lebron with a safe distance from the rest, but even he is significantly lagging behind Harden.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: celticsclay on December 12, 2017, 07:07:51 PM
This is the rare topic that everyone seems to agree on.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: Big333223 on December 12, 2017, 08:51:54 PM
This is the rare topic that everyone seems to agree on.
I guess I'm not too surprised because I know a lot of people on this board hate Lebron but he's definitely right there.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: wayupnorth on December 12, 2017, 08:55:17 PM
This is the rare topic that everyone seems to agree on.
I guess I'm not too surprised because I know a lot of people on this board hate Lebron but he's definitely right there.

I am one of those people.

Hate his attitude, hate his ego, don't even really like his game.

But can't not recognize what he is continuing to do.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: Moranis on December 12, 2017, 10:36:31 PM
This is the rare topic that everyone seems to agree on.
Harden really is a no brainer at this point, especially with Paul getting hurt early and just integrating back in
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: libermaniac on December 12, 2017, 11:18:02 PM
Last night's fiasco against the Bulls iced it for Kyrie!  ;)
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: bopna on December 13, 2017, 03:57:31 AM
James Harden. The guy ia a nightmare to cover as he has all the moves...OKC should have built around him instead of Westbrook.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 13, 2017, 04:08:01 AM
This is the rare topic that everyone seems to agree on.
I guess I'm not too surprised because I know a lot of people on this board hate Lebron but he's definitely right there.
You dont need to hate Lebron to take Harden over him.

Harden has been unbelievable.
Title: Re: First trimester MVP?
Post by: gouki88 on December 13, 2017, 06:22:21 AM
This is the rare topic that everyone seems to agree on.
I guess I'm not too surprised because I know a lot of people on this board hate Lebron but he's definitely right there.
You dont need to hate Lebron to take Harden over him.

Harden has been unbelievable.
Yeah, 32/5/9.5 on 46.3/40.6/86.3 splits with a PER of 31.6 is ridiculous.

I thought he should've been MVP last year, and I think he should be this year definitely