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Title: The real steal-Theis
Post by: rollie mass on December 07, 2017, 05:19:55 AM
Daniel Thies 7 points, 11 rebounds,2 assists,2 steals,1 block in 17 minutes.Nobody saw this coming.
Theis continues to impress and build chemistry.Second half of season as bigs stop running and banging underneath while going through the motions.
Theis will bring hustle and energy -a very deceptive player with his rim protection and put backs
He puts himself in position  and does not mind contact underneath.
A very savvy rookie with all those years in the trenches in Europe doing hand to hand with European bigs .They can be burly and awkward but tough.

Asked this before and it must be a state secret-"What is his wingspan and standing reach?"

Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on December 07, 2017, 05:25:09 AM
To think some of us initially saw him as a training camp body and nothing more.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: rollie mass on December 07, 2017, 05:48:23 AM
I watched some of his games in European tournament at end of season-of interest mostly because he blocked Zizic three times in a row.
Never envisioned Celts going after him or that his defense and ability to rebound would translate against USA players at his tweener height.At best thought he would be a Jerebko type but he seems to have quicker jump attached to that reach-
-A very deceptive player with that length and motor the players and refs have underestimated his shot blocking and need stop calling phantom fouls--then there were two out of bounds saves that led to 3 pt baskets by Nader and YABUSELE

This also raises the question can Danny and Brad work magic.
And what is next-Yabusele? or another pickup
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: Celtics4ever on December 07, 2017, 06:36:57 AM
His motor is what I really like.   He comes to play every night.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: colincb on December 07, 2017, 06:39:30 AM
Theis Team Rankings

1 - FG%
1 - Defensive Rating per 100 Possessions (by 5 points!)
3 - Total Shooting %
1 - Defensive Rebounding %
2 - Overall Rebounding %
1 - Block %
1 - Defensive Box (Score) +/-


Otherwise all in the middle except for:

15 - Turnover %

Which is why he's strictly a catch and shoot player or lob city/offensive put-back scorer.


In any case a great signing for Danny.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: action781 on December 07, 2017, 08:11:20 AM
He reminds me a lot lately of Larry Nance Jr (which I think is a compliment)
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: YoungOne87 on December 07, 2017, 08:46:48 AM
smaller birdman with a jump shot ist my comparison for him.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: slamtheking on December 07, 2017, 08:49:28 AM
great pick up by Danny that was underappreciated by most at the time he was signed. 

definitely a great summer by Danny all the way around.  Theis is the unexpected cream filling in the cupcake (With Kyrie, Hayward and Tatum being the frosting everyone sees on top)
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: mmmmm on December 07, 2017, 09:57:00 AM
I've been on the Theis train since the day they announced he was going to come to the Celtics, way back last June.

I love this kid's game.   Solid, fundamental.  Tough as nails.  Fantastic, smart defender.   Not an elite scorer but at least competent with his shot and overall a 'plus' on the offensive side of the court.

I love how 'big' he plays, even though he is 'only' 6' 9".  Has great footwork, super-long arms and not afraid to bang with big boys.

And most of all, I love how having either Theis or Baynes on the floor lets Horford play the 4 so much, where he has just been awesome this year.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: Donoghus on December 07, 2017, 10:18:04 AM
I didn't know squat about this kid before he joined the Celtics but I love watching him play.  Has a great basketball sense & plays hard.  Fun to watch.  Also, "Vanilla Theis" ranks up there as one of the great nicknames out there.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: Bobshot on December 07, 2017, 11:19:14 AM
Theis had that big preseason game, and then got buried out of the rotation. He's been pretty steady through the season playing low minutes, but he's capable of more, as he showed again last night.

I wonder if he's the guy to defend these big inside players like Drummond and Ante. Baynes doesn't have the length to do it. Theis may not have the length, either. For the playoffs, they will need someone to clog up the middle. Ainge should be considering a player like Tyson Chandler for the stretch run and the playoffs.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: csfansince60s on December 07, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
I watched some of his games in European tournament at end of season-of interest mostly because he blocked Zizic three times in a row.


Here is a clip of the "block party" :   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32bal9DQWGg

When people were moaning about giving up Zizic, I tried to convince them not to worry, because we had the Anti-Zizic...haha.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: kozlodoev on December 07, 2017, 11:45:04 AM
Theis had that big preseason game, and then got buried out of the rotation. He's been pretty steady through the season playing low minutes, but he's capable of more, as he showed again last night.

I wonder if he's the guy to defend these big inside players like Drummond and Ante. Baynes doesn't have the length to do it. Theis may not have the length, either. For the playoffs, they will need someone to clog up the middle. Ainge should be considering a player like Tyson Chandler for the stretch run and the playoffs.
Theis is shorter than Baynes, and Baynes is decidedly the longest player on our team.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: Humble G on December 07, 2017, 12:02:25 PM
I really love Theis and he would be in my starting 5 this year with Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, and Horford.

His hustle and rebounding is such a huge boost for our team. I am a big fan of Theis Theis Baby
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: vjcsmoke on December 07, 2017, 12:44:43 PM
Theis is a good defender and athletic.  His offensive game is limited, but the lobs are very effective because he will get up in the air willingly and throw down the jam.  Defensively and rebounding he has been a plus for our team.

I am impressed with the rookie from the german league.  His defensive skills have translated.  And yeah the refs did give him a couple of phantom fouls in the mavs game.  But officiating was uneven throughout the whole game.  Once Theis garners a bit of a reputation for defense calls will start to go his way.  But they usually don't your rookie year.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: rollie mass on December 07, 2017, 12:49:38 PM
The other German  on Mavs, Maxi Kieber had a good game and blocked a lot of shots -i think he is 6-11 was undrafted and is also 25 years old'
Daniel did some summer league with Wizards club-is it possible drafting bigs young skinny and raw is not the way to go.
Twenty five might just be the beginning of improvement for Daniel with NBA coaching from strength training to weight training for speed.He has a group of dedicated young players that really work at getting better and Brad for a coach
Theis is just a rookie, he even said he is getting used to slippery NBA ball.
Title: Re: The real steal-Theis
Post by: spikelovetheCelts on December 09, 2017, 11:12:13 AM
I think Ainge has been getting better and better in finding talent. This roster has everything but a big like Tyson Chandler. We have a spot for that. Theis helps keep the energy going when he comes. He sacrifices all to win the true Celtic way. He will also learn to grip the slippery ball better too.