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Title: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Big333223 on November 26, 2017, 09:49:40 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

If he can keep this up through an entire season, I'll be in love forever.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Chris22 on November 26, 2017, 10:57:49 PM
Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: ThePaintedArea on November 27, 2017, 10:40:38 AM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: D Dub on November 27, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Granath on November 27, 2017, 10:53:09 AM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

Or perhaps Brad is just significantly better at developing young talent than Doc was.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: saltlover on November 27, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

No, we’ve largely just had better and more draft picks since Stevens has been here.  In 4 drafts in the Stevens era, we’ve had two 1st round busts (Young and Hunter), an early 2nd that also failed (Mickey), and another 1st for whom the verdict is still out (Yabusele).  We’ve done well with all the top 10 picks, which is important, but we didn’t have those for the prior 8 or so years to compare to.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: KGBirdBias on November 27, 2017, 11:06:48 AM
Stevens runs circles around Doc in all facets of coaching and developing players...it's not even close.

Doc's teams stay hurt because he doesn't develop young players. He relies too much on vets and they break down.

Tatum was an easy pick for me...he was the best, most polished player in the draft.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Big333223 on November 27, 2017, 11:14:49 AM
Stevens runs circles around Doc in all facets of coaching and developing players...it's not even close.

Doc's teams stay hurt because he doesn't develop young players. He relies too much on vets and they break down.

Tatum was an easy pick for me...he was the best, most polished player in the draft.
I give lots of credit to you and Danny. If I had been in charge I probably would've taken Fultz and called it day. Now it looks like Danny might've gotten the best player in the draft and an extra lottery pick for his trouble. Amazing.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: footey on November 27, 2017, 11:55:23 AM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

Hate to rain on your parade, but Brad may have been the deciding factor for taking KO over GA in 2013 draft, as BS told Danny that Butler could not stop him, and spoke highly of him. Of course we will never know, and in all fairness, it was Danny's decision, not Brad's, but there is that possible influence.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: saltlover on November 27, 2017, 12:02:35 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

Hate to rain on your parade, but Brad may have been the deciding factor for taking KO over GA in 2013 draft, as BS told Danny that Butler could not stop him, and spoke highly of him. Of course we will never know, and in all fairness, it was Danny's decision, not Brad's, but there is that possible influence.

Brad also wasn’t hired as a coach until a full week after the draft, and the Celtics had been in their coaching search for only a couple of days prior to the draft.  It’s highly unlikely that Stevens had any influence on that pick aside from the scouting department asking college coaches for information, which happens every year.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: D Dub on November 27, 2017, 12:12:13 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

No, we’ve largely just had better and more draft picks since Stevens has been here.  In 4 drafts in the Stevens era, we’ve had two 1st round busts (Young and Hunter), an early 2nd that also failed (Mickey), and another 1st for whom the verdict is still out (Yabusele).  We’ve done well with all the top 10 picks, which is important, but we didn’t have those for the prior 8 or so years to compare to.

What I find more impressive with Stevens was his ability to look past Kris Dunn & Markelle Fultz, guys that nearly every b-ball pundit had pegged for stardom.

Two years straight the C’s bucked the basketball world taking guys at 3 that basicly no one else even had in their top 5.   

And they nailed both picks in fabulous fashion. 

To me, those two decisions are more impactful, and showed more skill of evaluation than any of Danny’s other drafts.  As we all know, picking in the middle is a gamble, but top 5 is different.  Being able to reach back for Brown and Tatum while avoiding busts like Fultz and Dunn, in spots where they are expected to yield a cornerstone, should be given extra credit when we look back and compare year over year.

 
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: saltlover on November 27, 2017, 12:21:14 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

No, we’ve largely just had better and more draft picks since Stevens has been here.  In 4 drafts in the Stevens era, we’ve had two 1st round busts (Young and Hunter), an early 2nd that also failed (Mickey), and another 1st for whom the verdict is still out (Yabusele).  We’ve done well with all the top 10 picks, which is important, but we didn’t have those for the prior 8 or so years to compare to.

What I find more impressive with Stevens was his ability to look past Kris Dunn & Markelle Fultz, guys that nearly every b-ball pundit had pegged for stardom.

Two years straight the C’s bucked the basketball world taking guys at 3 that basicly no one else even had in their top 5.   

And they nailed both picks in fabulous fashion. 

To me, those two decisions are more impactful, and showed more skill of evaluation than any of Danny’s other drafts.  As we all know, picking in the middle is a gamble, but top 5 is different.  Being able to reach back for Brown and Tatum while avoiding busts like Fultz and Dunn, in spots where they are expected to yield a cornerstone, should be given extra credit when we look back and compare year over year.

There is no evidence that Ainge would have picked neither Brown nor Tatum if Stevens were not the coach.  Particularly this year, Stevens was less involved in the draft process because the Celtics were in the playoffs into late May.  The Celtics have a large staff to handle scouting for the draft, and the decision is ultimately Ainge’s.  Stevens certainly has a voice in the process, and while it may be an important voice, it’s not the most important.

I think Brad is a tremendous coach, but saying he is responsible for the drafts is exaggerated, at best.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: smokeablount on November 27, 2017, 01:17:40 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

No, we’ve largely just had better and more draft picks since Stevens has been here.  In 4 drafts in the Stevens era, we’ve had two 1st round busts (Young and Hunter), an early 2nd that also failed (Mickey), and another 1st for whom the verdict is still out (Yabusele).  We’ve done well with all the top 10 picks, which is important, but we didn’t have those for the prior 8 or so years to compare to.

Hunter was not a first round bust. He basically did what you’d expect from the 25th pick in a shallow draft. Though he was bad, he only really parted the Celtics early because of our abundance of picks.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: saltlover on November 27, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

No, we’ve largely just had better and more draft picks since Stevens has been here.  In 4 drafts in the Stevens era, we’ve had two 1st round busts (Young and Hunter), an early 2nd that also failed (Mickey), and another 1st for whom the verdict is still out (Yabusele).  We’ve done well with all the top 10 picks, which is important, but we didn’t have those for the prior 8 or so years to compare to.

Hunter was not a first round bust. He basically did what you’d expect from the 25th pick in a shallow draft. Though he was bad, he only really parted the Celtics early because of our abundance of picks.

When you’re out of the league one year after being a 1st round pick, you’re a bust.  Period.  If he got cut and latched on somewhere, even on the back of the roster, that could be an excuse of a roster crunch.  But that he hasn’t says that he was simply a bad pick.  Especially now that two-way players exist.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 27, 2017, 02:31:12 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

Or perhaps Brad is just significantly better at developing young talent than Doc was.
or perhpas since the celtics have been picking at the number 3 spot, it makes it easier to draft good players than drafting in the teens or 20s, as ainge often had to do earlier.  ::)
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: kozlodoev on November 27, 2017, 03:24:56 PM
We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.
No, we haven't, really.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: smokeablount on November 27, 2017, 03:25:21 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.


More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

No, we’ve largely just had better and more draft picks since Stevens has been here.  In 4 drafts in the Stevens era, we’ve had two 1st round busts (Young and Hunter), an early 2nd that also failed (Mickey), and another 1st for whom the verdict is still out (Yabusele).  We’ve done well with all the top 10 picks, which is important, but we didn’t have those for the prior 8 or so years to compare to.

Hunter was not a first round bust. He basically did what you’d expect from the 25th pick in a shallow draft. Though he was bad, he only really parted the Celtics early because of our abundance of picks.

When you’re out of the league one year after being a 1st round pick, you’re a bust.  Period.  If he got cut and latched on somewhere, even on the back of the roster, that could be an excuse of a roster crunch.  But that he hasn’t says that he was simply a bad pick.  Especially now that two-way players exist.

That’s very simplistic thinking. Bad pick yes, bust no. The Celtics had 2 first rounders in 2014, three top 35 picks in Hunters year in 2015 and the #3 pick in 2016. That’s 6 essential first round picks in 3 years and none of them started when Hunter was cut. Context matters and late first round picks are lucky to get a second deal. He did later play for the Bulls and I doubt you’d bet your life he’ll never play another NBA game. 

If you think Hunter was a bust and someone like JR Giddens wasn’t just because we didn’t have many picks then and he just sat on the bench for 2-3 years more power to you. Plenty of late first rounders are international guys who never play even one year, one was picked a few spots ahead of Hunter.

No NBA decision maker is calling a failed 28th pick a bust. For a brilliant poster who adds value to this board by handling nuance with precision, this is a disappointing take from you.

Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: saltlover on November 27, 2017, 04:24:02 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.


More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

No, we’ve largely just had better and more draft picks since Stevens has been here.  In 4 drafts in the Stevens era, we’ve had two 1st round busts (Young and Hunter), an early 2nd that also failed (Mickey), and another 1st for whom the verdict is still out (Yabusele).  We’ve done well with all the top 10 picks, which is important, but we didn’t have those for the prior 8 or so years to compare to.

Hunter was not a first round bust. He basically did what you’d expect from the 25th pick in a shallow draft. Though he was bad, he only really parted the Celtics early because of our abundance of picks.

When you’re out of the league one year after being a 1st round pick, you’re a bust.  Period.  If he got cut and latched on somewhere, even on the back of the roster, that could be an excuse of a roster crunch.  But that he hasn’t says that he was simply a bad pick.  Especially now that two-way players exist.

That’s very simplistic thinking. Bad pick yes, bust no. The Celtics had 2 first rounders in 2014, three top 35 picks in Hunters year in 2015 and the #3 pick in 2016. That’s 6 essential first round picks in 3 years and none of them started when Hunter was cut. Context matters and late first round picks are lucky to get a second deal. He did later play for the Bulls and I doubt you’d bet your life he’ll never play another NBA game. 

If you think Hunter was a bust and someone like JR Giddens wasn’t just because we didn’t have many picks then and he just sat on the bench for 2-3 years more power to you. Plenty of late first rounders are international guys who never play even one year, one was picked a few spots ahead of Hunter.

No NBA decision maker is calling a failed 28th pick a bust. For a brilliant poster who adds value to this board by handling nuance with precision, this is a disappointing take from you.

While I thank you for the compliment, sometimes nuance is not needed.  Hunter was a failed pick.  No NBA team even had enough interest in him to bring him to training camp.  I don’t expect all my late 1sts to become All-Stars, and really nothing more than fringe rotation players for a couple of seasons.  But NBA rosters are larger than ever, and that he can’t find someone who even has interest in developing him as a two-way player in the D-League for a season or two says a lot about the league’s opinion of his talent, and how quickly they made such a decision.

Here’s the list of two-way players: http://gleague.nba.com/players-two-way-contracts-2017-18-season/ (http://gleague.nba.com/players-two-way-contracts-2017-18-season/)

Guys like John Holland, Vander Blue, and Malcolm Miller all have deals, and Hunter isn’t even an affiliate player, much less 2-way.  There’s no way to pretend that Hunter met any expectation of being a 1st round pick, unless you have zero expectations at all.  He barely met the expectations of a late 2nd.

Is it the end of the world? Obviously not.  Will we forget about Hunter the same way we forget about Jajuan Johnson?  Sure.  Did he significantly fail to meet the modest expectations of being a 1st round pick?  Most certainly.  And for that, he is a bust.

But this thread is about Jayson Tatum, who had incredibly high expectations and has managed to so far exceed them.  He is not a bust, and let’s keep celebrating him.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Emmette Bryant on November 30, 2017, 11:23:36 AM
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/11/30/16717774/jayson-tatum-boston-celtics-nba-draft-wings
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 30, 2017, 11:32:41 AM
We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.
No, we haven't, really.

We've drafted better players, it's just deeply confounded with having better picks.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 30, 2017, 04:40:57 PM
There are so many positive things to say about Tatum, but probably the thing I like best about him is his composure and willingness to let the game come to him.  It's uncommon for him to force plays that aren't there (bad drives/passes), and he doesn't usually force shots either.  He's shown that he can hit big shots in the 4th quarter and make FTs under pressure.  I strongly believe that he's learning to play the "right way" - making the correct play at the right time and not worrying about stuffing the stat sheet.

He's also dispelled many of the concerns about his game.  There were concerns about his "average" athleticism, but he's shown that he can get to the rim with one dribble from the 3 point line with relative ease thanks to his burst (good by NBA standards, but definitely not elite) and length.  There was a question mark about his shooting, but he's been lights out from 3.  And as above, he's playing within himself and playing team-oriented ball, and isn't a ball-stopping isolation player that he was at times at Duke.

Add that to the fact that he's scoring incredibly efficiently (49/48/85), helping significantly on the boards, and playing solid defense by rookie standards (good awareness and team defense, his length helps him average almost 1 BPG and 1 SPG), and we have a future star on our hands. 

I personally don't care too much about basic stats - PPG especially given that we have Irving, Horford, and Brown (and next year Hayward), so if it still hovers at around 13-15 PPG next season I won't be concerned.  This kid is going to be a killer on offense and in transition, and he'll be a solid, versatile defender.   I can't praise this kid enough.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: mctyson on November 30, 2017, 05:59:29 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

If he can keep this up through an entire season, I'll be in love forever.

He is well coached and is taking what the defense gives him.  Nothing looks rushed or forced.

The trade to get another possible top-5 pick, plus him, might eclipse the Brooklyn trade as Danny's greatest move ever, if it all plays out right.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: timpiker on November 30, 2017, 07:08:29 PM
To me, Tatum is [dang] near perfect.  I wish he would be a little more aggressive and not disappear for long stretches.  His D is a great surprise.  He's good at everything.  And he's just been in the league for 2 months.  Amazing.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 30, 2017, 07:30:34 PM
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I wish he would be a little more aggressive and not disappear for long stretches.

I think you nailed it here, TP.   I feel the same.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: gouki88 on November 30, 2017, 07:33:41 PM
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I wish he would be a little more aggressive and not disappear for long stretches.

I think you nailed it here, TP.   I feel the same.
Ever since Morris has started this has become more the case, which frustrates me to no end
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 30, 2017, 07:40:51 PM
I can't praise him enough. 

He currently ranks:
* 16th in the NBA in true shooting percentage (63%)
* 27th in the NBA in effective field goal percentage (56.9%)
* 12th in the league in Free Throw Rate (35.1%)
* 6th in the league in 3PT percentage (47.8%)
* 14th in the NBA in clutch points scored (29)
* 11th in the NBA in defensive rating (99.7)
* 7th among SF's in defensive real plus minus (+1.44)

These rankings would be impressive for any NBA player - the fact that he's doing this as a 19 year old rookie is beyond incredible.  It's mindblowing. 

But what amazes me the most, is his intangibles.  He has got to have the highest levels of maturity and selflessness I've ever seen from an NBA rookie.  He is the absolute personifies the concept of the true team player - he hasn't got a care in the world what personal numbers he records on any given night.  Hell some days I've seen him take onl y 3 or 4 attempts the entire game.  But he'll shoot 3-4 on those attempts, will grab 7 or 8 rebounds, and will play fantatsic defense - and he'll have a major impact on his team winning.  And that seems to be, genuinely, the only thing he cares about. 

Every rookie who comes in to the league loves to talk to talk.  They all talk about how they don't care about personal numbers, they'll do whatever the coach needs, they just want to help the team win, etc.  Very, very few rookies every back that up and show they truly mean it.  Jayson Tatum has done exactly that - he's proven that when he says those things, he means every word. He reminds me a lot of Kevin Garnett in that regard - he has an entirely different personality, but both were guys who were known for extreme unselfishness and for their willingness to do whatever it takes to help their team win. 

He is a guy who should bring the a LOT of extra wins to the Celtics franchise over the nexst 10 years.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 30, 2017, 07:46:02 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

If he can keep this up through an entire season, I'll be in love forever.

He is well coached and is taking what the defense gives him.  Nothing looks rushed or forced.

The trade to get another possible top-5 pick, plus him, might eclipse the Brooklyn trade as Danny's greatest move ever, if it all plays out right.

I don't think we can go that far!

After all, Boston had to trade the #1 pick to make that deal happen, and it was the Brooklyn deal that brought him that #1 pick to begin with! :P

Amazing deal though.  Between the Brooklyn trade, the the Tatum deal, the Kyrie trade, and the Horford/Hayward deals - Danny Ainge is almost embarrassing the rest of the league right now with his outright dominance as a GM. 
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Big333223 on December 01, 2017, 06:13:46 PM
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I wish he would be a little more aggressive and not disappear for long stretches.

I think you nailed it here, TP.   I feel the same.
On this front, I was encouraged to see him call his own number last night against Amir Johnson in the 4th quarter. Yes it was Amir Johnson, but he still felt confident enough to waive off Theis so he could iso.

He's 19 years old and playing against/with a lot of grown men. I think he's easing his way into the NBA and his aggressiveness will come in due time.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Big333223 on January 15, 2018, 07:37:37 AM
Update on Tatum's consistency:

Through 44 games he's scored in single digits only 6 times and he's never scored fewer than 4 points in an NBA game. He's also only had five 20 point games. He's never attempted more than 15 shots in a game, which he's done 3 times. He's a machine.

For all of the Durant/Pierce comps I've seen, this kind of consistency is Duncan-esque.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: kozlodoev on January 15, 2018, 08:09:32 AM
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I wish he would be a little more aggressive and not disappear for long stretches.

I think you nailed it here, TP.   I feel the same.
On this front, I was encouraged to see him call his own number last night against Amir Johnson in the 4th quarter. Yes it was Amir Johnson, but he still felt confident enough to waive off Theis so he could iso.

He's 19 years old and playing against/with a lot of grown men. I think he's easing his way into the NBA and his aggressiveness will come in due time.
Yeah, not worried yet. Here's a 19-year old kid, a rookie, that's starting with Kyrie Irving and Al Horford, and gets to spend a lot of minutes on the court with Smart and Rozier who aren't exactly great involving others.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 15, 2018, 11:13:46 AM
Update on Tatum's consistency:

Through 44 games he's scored in single digits only 6 times and he's never scored fewer than 4 points in an NBA game. He's also only had five 20 point games. He's never attempted more than 15 shots in a game, which he's done 3 times. He's a machine.

For all of the Durant/Pierce comps I've seen, this kind of consistency is Duncan-esque.

I like that comparison a lot - reminds me of Chuck calling Duncan "Groundhog Day" because his box scores were so consistent. 

Tatum obviously doesn't play like Duncan at all but his efficiency and consistency are definitely reminiscent. And that's a great thing from the kid.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: LilRip on January 15, 2018, 11:17:52 AM
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I wish he would be a little more aggressive and not disappear for long stretches.

I think you nailed it here, TP.   I feel the same.
On this front, I was encouraged to see him call his own number last night against Amir Johnson in the 4th quarter. Yes it was Amir Johnson, but he still felt confident enough to waive off Theis so he could iso.

He's 19 years old and playing against/with a lot of grown men. I think he's easing his way into the NBA and his aggressiveness will come in due time.
Yeah, not worried yet. Here's a 19-year old kid, a rookie, that's starting with Kyrie Irving and Al Horford, and gets to spend a lot of minutes on the court with Smart and Rozier who aren't exactly great involving others.

Rozier is a pretty selfish dude but Smart? He does plenty to get his teammates involved. Of course, not all possessions end pretty but he does a pretty decent job, IMO
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: KG Living Legend on January 15, 2018, 12:58:04 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.

More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.





 We have also drafted #6 overall, #3 overall, #3 overall. Those #3 picks are do to AInge as well. Give the man his credit.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Big333223 on March 21, 2018, 01:29:43 PM
Update!

There was a lot of talk that Tatum hit the rookie wall sometime in January/February but if there is such a thing as a rookie wall, he smashed through it. Since the all star break (12 games) Tatum is averaging 14-5-2 on .480/.436/.806 shooting which are right in line with his season averages.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: liam on March 21, 2018, 11:07:45 PM
This was good:
https://nesn.com/2018/03/why-skip-bayless-believes-jayson-tatum-deserves-rookie-of-the-year-consideration/

If you don't want to watch the whole rant the Tatum part comes at the end...
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: libermaniac on March 21, 2018, 11:19:58 PM
Update!

There was a lot of talk that Tatum hit the rookie wall sometime in January/February but if there is such a thing as a rookie wall, he smashed through it. Since the all star break (12 games) Tatum is averaging 14-5-2 on .480/.436/.806 shooting which are right in line with his season averages.
But one of his FT misses was oh so painful. 😉 Seriously he has been a bright spot recently. Fun to watch his progression.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Jiri Welsch on March 22, 2018, 12:32:47 AM
At this point, the only remaining hope is that Tatum displays a higher “playoff level” like Jaylen Brown did last year.

He’s definitely proven this regular season that he’s a very good player who had a “very good year.”

Only C’s player to play all of our games if I’m not mistaken!
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: chilidawg on March 22, 2018, 12:44:28 AM
At this point, the only remaining hope is that Tatum displays a higher “playoff level” like Jaylen Brown did last year.

He’s definitely proven this regular season that he’s a very good player who had a “very good year.”

Only C’s player to play all of our games if I’m not mistaken!

Only player to start every game.  Rozier has played every game as well.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: cman88 on March 22, 2018, 08:10:59 AM
What we are seeing is what Tatum would be doing if he was on a horrible team and why he probably would be in rookie of the year consideration if he wasnt on a team with Kyrie irving and a promising 2nd year player in Jaylen brown

Hopefully he keeps up this aggressive play offensively once brown and Irving come back
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: vjcsmoke on March 22, 2018, 12:10:11 PM
back to back 20 point games for Tatum.

he had a highlight reel game against OKC and helped key our comeback.

23 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists.  And his last assist set up the game winner to Marcus Morris!

kid is going to be a stud.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Granath on March 22, 2018, 12:24:45 PM
What we are seeing is what Tatum would be doing if he was on a horrible team and why he probably would be in rookie of the year consideration if he wasnt on a team with Kyrie irving and a promising 2nd year player in Jaylen brown

Hopefully he keeps up this aggressive play offensively once brown and Irving come back

TP for this.

In a normal situation, Tatum's usage would be far north of 20%. Mitchell's usage is 28% and he's putting up 17 shots a game. Kuzma is 22%. Fox's is 23%. Tatum is at 18.8%.

But Tatum is playing on a very good team and isn't even the secondary option. So Tatum is putting up a paltry 10 shots per game. If he had free reign he wouldn't be as efficient but he'd be scoring a whole lot more. And given that the kid JUST turned 20 (19 days ago), he's an amazing talent. Mitchell is a year and a half older. Kuzma is almost 3 years older.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: nickagneta on March 22, 2018, 01:48:16 PM
What a completely awesome week it would have been for Jayson had he hit that free throw against Washington to win it.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Moranis on March 22, 2018, 04:16:48 PM
What we are seeing is what Tatum would be doing if he was on a horrible team and why he probably would be in rookie of the year consideration if he wasnt on a team with Kyrie irving and a promising 2nd year player in Jaylen brown

Hopefully he keeps up this aggressive play offensively once brown and Irving come back

TP for this.

In a normal situation, Tatum's usage would be far north of 20%. Mitchell's usage is 28% and he's putting up 17 shots a game. Kuzma is 22%. Fox's is 23%. Tatum is at 18.8%.

But Tatum is playing on a very good team and isn't even the secondary option. So Tatum is putting up a paltry 10 shots per game. If he had free reign he wouldn't be as efficient but he'd be scoring a whole lot more. And given that the kid JUST turned 20 (19 days ago), he's an amazing talent. Mitchell is a year and a half older. Kuzma is almost 3 years older.
He does have free reign, or at least a lot more reign then he is taking, which is a real concern.  Especially with Brown, Smart, and Irving out, Tatum isn't really taking any more shots, which is a real problem.  I mean even in the Thunder game when he was on fire, Tatum had just 12 shots, behind Rozier and Morris and the same as Monroe.  The shots are available, but he isn't taking them. 
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: ChillyWilly on March 22, 2018, 04:47:46 PM
What we are seeing is what Tatum would be doing if he was on a horrible team and why he probably would be in rookie of the year consideration if he wasnt on a team with Kyrie irving and a promising 2nd year player in Jaylen brown

Hopefully he keeps up this aggressive play offensively once brown and Irving come back

TP for this.

In a normal situation, Tatum's usage would be far north of 20%. Mitchell's usage is 28% and he's putting up 17 shots a game. Kuzma is 22%. Fox's is 23%. Tatum is at 18.8%.

But Tatum is playing on a very good team and isn't even the secondary option. So Tatum is putting up a paltry 10 shots per game. If he had free reign he wouldn't be as efficient but he'd be scoring a whole lot more. And given that the kid JUST turned 20 (19 days ago), he's an amazing talent. Mitchell is a year and a half older. Kuzma is almost 3 years older.
He does have free reign, or at least a lot more reign then he is taking, which is a real concern.  Especially with Brown, Smart, and Irving out, Tatum isn't really taking any more shots, which is a real problem.  I mean even in the Thunder game when he was on fire, Tatum had just 12 shots, behind Rozier and Morris and the same as Monroe.  The shots are available, but he isn't taking them.

The real problem would be if Tatum started going ISO hero not that he's only taking 12 shots a game. He's still learning how to get his in the flow of the game. I think we all know he can get his in ISO situations.

I don't know how players talk to each other but I'm going to fathom a guess and say these things are brought up to rookies.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Boris Badenov on March 22, 2018, 04:59:31 PM
What we are seeing is what Tatum would be doing if he was on a horrible team and why he probably would be in rookie of the year consideration if he wasnt on a team with Kyrie irving and a promising 2nd year player in Jaylen brown

Hopefully he keeps up this aggressive play offensively once brown and Irving come back

TP for this.

In a normal situation, Tatum's usage would be far north of 20%. Mitchell's usage is 28% and he's putting up 17 shots a game. Kuzma is 22%. Fox's is 23%. Tatum is at 18.8%.

But Tatum is playing on a very good team and isn't even the secondary option. So Tatum is putting up a paltry 10 shots per game. If he had free reign he wouldn't be as efficient but he'd be scoring a whole lot more. And given that the kid JUST turned 20 (19 days ago), he's an amazing talent. Mitchell is a year and a half older. Kuzma is almost 3 years older.
He does have free reign, or at least a lot more reign then he is taking, which is a real concern.  Especially with Brown, Smart, and Irving out, Tatum isn't really taking any more shots, which is a real problem.  I mean even in the Thunder game when he was on fire, Tatum had just 12 shots, behind Rozier and Morris and the same as Monroe.  The shots are available, but he isn't taking them.

After hovering around 18% for most of the year his usage is up to 22% in March on good efficiency.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: ThePaintedArea on March 24, 2018, 08:09:35 PM
Tatum has scored at least 11 points for 8 games in a row. He's scored 11 points or more in 18 of his 21 games in the NBA. He's currently averaging 13.9 per game. For anyone, this is terrific consistency. For a 19 year old rookie, I think this is remarkable.


More remarkable still is his team defense - astonishing would be my word. Of all the mountains that rookies have to climb, this is the steepest. But Jayson plays defense like a vet.

Tatum is amazing.
Danny is a genius.

You mean... he's a genius at... the Draft?!

More like, BRAD is a drafting genius. 

Danny made a genius coaching hire, and is a good enough leader to take his advise. 

We’ve been noticably better drafting since Stevens joined the brain-trust, no doubt about it.

No, we’ve largely just had better and more draft picks since Stevens has been here.  In 4 drafts in the Stevens era, we’ve had two 1st round busts (Young and Hunter), an early 2nd that also failed (Mickey), and another 1st for whom the verdict is still out (Yabusele).  We’ve done well with all the top 10 picks, which is important, but we didn’t have those for the prior 8 or so years to compare to.

Hunter was not a first round bust. He basically did what you’d expect from the 25th pick in a shallow draft. Though he was bad, he only really parted the Celtics early because of our abundance of picks.

When you’re out of the league one year after being a 1st round pick, you’re a bust.  Period.  If he got cut and latched on somewhere, even on the back of the roster, that could be an excuse of a roster crunch.  But that he hasn’t says that he was simply a bad pick.  Especially now that two-way players exist.

That’s very simplistic thinking. Bad pick yes, bust no. The Celtics had 2 first rounders in 2014, three top 35 picks in Hunters year in 2015 and the #3 pick in 2016. That’s 6 essential first round picks in 3 years and none of them started when Hunter was cut. Context matters and late first round picks are lucky to get a second deal. He did later play for the Bulls and I doubt you’d bet your life he’ll never play another NBA game. 

If you think Hunter was a bust and someone like JR Giddens wasn’t just because we didn’t have many picks then and he just sat on the bench for 2-3 years more power to you. Plenty of late first rounders are international guys who never play even one year, one was picked a few spots ahead of Hunter.

No NBA decision maker is calling a failed 28th pick a bust. For a brilliant poster who adds value to this board by handling nuance with precision, this is a disappointing take from you.

While I thank you for the compliment, sometimes nuance is not needed.  Hunter was a failed pick.  No NBA team even had enough interest in him to bring him to training camp.  I don’t expect all my late 1sts to become All-Stars, and really nothing more than fringe rotation players for a couple of seasons.  But NBA rosters are larger than ever, and that he can’t find someone who even has interest in developing him as a two-way player in the D-League for a season or two says a lot about the league’s opinion of his talent, and how quickly they made such a decision.

Here’s the list of two-way players: http://gleague.nba.com/players-two-way-contracts-2017-18-season/ (http://gleague.nba.com/players-two-way-contracts-2017-18-season/)

Guys like John Holland, Vander Blue, and Malcolm Miller all have deals, and Hunter isn’t even an affiliate player, much less 2-way.  There’s no way to pretend that Hunter met any expectation of being a 1st round pick, unless you have zero expectations at all.  He barely met the expectations of a late 2nd.

Is it the end of the world? Obviously not.  Will we forget about Hunter the same way we forget about Jajuan Johnson?  Sure.  Did he significantly fail to meet the modest expectations of being a 1st round pick?  Most certainly.  And for that, he is a bust.

As often happens, the story is not over yet for RJ’s pro career. This season he’s been a two-way player for the Rockets and the Rio Grande Vipers, leading his G-League team in minutes and even logging a little court time in the Big Show.

The Vipers average almost 36 threes per game, with Hunter launching almost ten of them (shooting a respectable .371 in the process).

I think he’s got excellent feel for the game, good instincts, good hands, is decisive, and can run a pick and roll. His main drawbacks, imo, were his body and his shooting - those two things being possibly why Ainge preferred James Young.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: trickybilly on March 24, 2018, 10:04:16 PM
P.S James Young still sniffing around the NBA nicely
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Big333223 on March 24, 2018, 10:34:38 PM
Weird game for Tatum last night. He still finished with 13 and 6, so close to his averages, but I think he scored 10 of that 13 in the 4th quarter, which is sort of good and bad. It's not good that, with the team relying on him, it took him so long to get it together. It's great that he has the resilience to go into a 4th quarter and throw the other 3 quarters out the window and put on the clutch show he did.

He didn't look real comfortable on that last play. It looked like he was thinking a little bit too much about the clock and got in his own head. He probably could've turned and gotten a dunk to make it a 5 point lead, if he fully had his wits about him but instead tried to kill a few extra seconds and then take that off-balance jumper. All in all, there's still a lot to be encouraged about with last night's game.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: nickagneta on March 24, 2018, 11:24:32 PM
Weird game for Tatum last night. He still finished with 13 and 6, so close to his averages, but I think he scored 10 of that 13 in the 4th quarter, which is sort of good and bad. It's not good that, with the team relying on him, it took him so long to get it together. It's great that he has the resilience to go into a 4th quarter and throw the other 3 quarters out the window and put on the clutch show he did.

He didn't look real comfortable on that last play. It looked like he was thinking a little bit too much about the clock and got in his own head. He probably could've turned and gotten a dunk to make it a 5 point lead, if he fully had his wits about him but instead tried to kill a few extra seconds and then take that off-balance jumper. All in all, there's still a lot to be encouraged about with last night's game.
I love the fact a 20 year old can become a force in the 4th quarter of a close game against a high quality opponent. His ability to just move forward and forget the bad play or shot or quarter is huge. Sometimes its only the best of players that can do that. I find that more encouraging going forward than his great shooting and scoring 1st half but next to nothing second half from the previous game.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: trickybilly on March 26, 2018, 02:02:59 AM
Not sure one can extrapolate much from this.. but there are only two guys in the NBA who have both a better 3pt% and average more points per game than newly-minted 20 year old Jayson Tatum:

Klay Thompson
Kevin Durant
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: vjcsmoke on March 27, 2018, 11:19:07 AM
Another 23 point night for Tatum.  If this is his new norm on a Kyrie-less club, I am pretty sure we are going to win 5 or 6 of our remaining games with 8 left to play and finish comfortably at #2 in the conference.  Celtics have won 7 of their last 10 including a 4 game win streak and just keep on keeping on.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: trickybilly on March 27, 2018, 11:31:18 AM
Just about any other year, Tatum wins ROY. Simmons is just scaring his way to the title. I guess if Tatum comes home with a VERY wet sail he could sneak it, especially if we gain top seed.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Moranis on March 27, 2018, 11:59:02 AM
Just about any other year, Tatum wins ROY. Simmons is just scaring his way to the title. I guess if Tatum comes home with a VERY wet sail he could sneak it, especially if we gain top seed.
I love Tatum and think he could be a great player, but 14 and 5 is not winning ROY in virtually any season outside of last year.  And Tatum will finish 3rd this year behind Simmons and Mitchell, and Tatum will not be close to either of those guys.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: nickagneta on March 27, 2018, 12:01:30 PM
Just about any other year, Tatum wins ROY. Simmons is just scaring his way to the title. I guess if Tatum comes home with a VERY wet sail he could sneak it, especially if we gain top seed.
Yeah, Simmons will win it but he might be the only winning ROY PG who wins the award, from this point on, without hitting a three point shot all year. Just a weird stat for a team's PG in today's game.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Moranis on March 27, 2018, 12:06:14 PM
Just about any other year, Tatum wins ROY. Simmons is just scaring his way to the title. I guess if Tatum comes home with a VERY wet sail he could sneak it, especially if we gain top seed.
Yeah, Simmons will win it but he might be the only winning ROY PG who wins the award, from this point on, without hitting a three point shot all year. Just a weird stat for a team's PG in today's game.
I don't think you need PG in there.  I don't think any rookie will win ROY without hitting a 3 point shot going forward (I mean I suppose a Shaq like player may enter the league again, but that would probably be the only scenario and even a modern day Shaq might be taking 3's).  I mean the only other 2 rookies that have played at least 40 games without hitting a 3 pointer are Bam Adebayo (0-7) and Jordan Bell (0-3).  Ivan Rabb has played in 29 games and hasn't even taken a 3 pointer and has the next most games of the rookies without hitting a 3 pointer.   
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: nickagneta on March 27, 2018, 12:18:31 PM
Just about any other year, Tatum wins ROY. Simmons is just scaring his way to the title. I guess if Tatum comes home with a VERY wet sail he could sneak it, especially if we gain top seed.
Yeah, Simmons will win it but he might be the only winning ROY PG who wins the award, from this point on, without hitting a three point shot all year. Just a weird stat for a team's PG in today's game.
I don't think you need PG in there.  I don't think any rookie will win ROY without hitting a 3 point shot going forward (I mean I suppose a Shaq like player may enter the league again, but that would probably be the only scenario and even a modern day Shaq might be taking 3's).  I mean the only other 2 rookies that have played at least 40 games without hitting a 3 pointer are Bam Adebayo (0-7) and Jordan Bell (0-3).  Ivan Rabb has played in 29 games and hasn't even taken a 3 pointer and has the next most games of the rookies without hitting a 3 pointer.   
You're probably right and I thought the same thing, but figured, like you mentioned, that probably only a Shaq like center or forward would be the type of player to not hit one. So I said PG.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: rollie mass on March 27, 2018, 01:41:02 PM
if marcus morris has a high ankle sprain like Crowder and Smart we are going to have to make up for his missing points-just when his shot seemed automatic.
What is Jaysons wingspan, it gets misjudged on defense.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: nickagneta on March 27, 2018, 03:28:06 PM
if marcus morris has a high ankle sprain like Crowder and Smart we are going to have to make up for his missing points-just when his shot seemed automatic.
What is Jaysons wingspan, it gets misjudged on defense.
Thought I read recently that his wingspan is 7'2"
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: A Future of Stevens on March 28, 2018, 06:39:17 PM
The ESPN ticker headlines flashed an interesting fact about Tatum.

He is only the second rookie in NBA history to be on pace for at least 1000 points, while shooting over 40% from 3pt. The other was Steph Curry.

While I'm not sure exactly how accurate that is, or how arbitrary the 1000+ point line is, it's interesting to see he is basically alone with the greatest 3pt shooter of all time at that point in their careers. Couple that with the fact he is at least a year younger than Curry was, and it speaks volumes to just how good Tatum could one day be.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: nickagneta on March 28, 2018, 07:20:08 PM
The ESPN ticker headlines flashed an interesting fact about Tatum.

He is only the second rookie in NBA history to be on pace for at least 1000 points, while shooting over 40% from 3pt. The other was Steph Curry.

While I'm not sure exactly how accurate that is, or how arbitrary the 1000+ point line is, it's interesting to see he is basically alone with the greatest 3pt shooter of all time at that point in their careers. Couple that with the fact he is at least a year younger than Curry was, and it speaks volumes to just how good Tatum could one day be.
Curry played 3 years at Davidson so he had to be at least 2 years older than Tatum when both were rookies.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 28, 2018, 08:13:54 PM
Jayson Tatum will likely become the youngest player EVER to lead a 50+ win team in minutes.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: iadera on March 29, 2018, 02:26:30 AM
With consistency of Tatum and Brown, with Hayward coming back from injury, Smart, Irving, Al, next season i just don't see any missing puzzle to this team.
Title: Re: The Consistency of Jayson Tatum
Post by: Jiri Welsch on March 29, 2018, 03:04:38 AM
With consistency of Tatum and Brown, with Hayward coming back from injury, Smart, Irving, Al, next season i just don't see any missing puzzle to this team.

Not going through long scoring droughts! Hopefully Hayward solves that