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Title: Miami Nights
Post by: KGBirdBias on November 22, 2017, 08:46:48 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped this game tonight. I don't want it to happen but a night off in SoBe can be dangerous. I look for bad officiating, early fouls and a messy rough game. Riley will have it no other way. If we will tonight it WILL be earned.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Eddie20 on November 22, 2017, 08:51:37 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped this game tonight. I don't want it to happen but a night off in SoBe can be dangerous. I look for bad officiating, early fouls and a messy rough game. Riley will have it no other way. If we will tonight it WILL be earned.

I'm worried about the same thing. In addition, the Heat showed really bad effort last game vs the Pacers and it seems like Spo really ripped into the team. That said, Vegas currently has us favored by 3 1/2.

One more thing, a Tuesday night in Miami a couple of days before Thanksgiving is far different than a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday night on a normal week.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Csfan1984 on November 22, 2017, 09:13:13 AM
They might benefit from dropping this one. Seems there is a little bit of pressure building the longer it goes. Enjoying the place a tiny bit and maybe help team relax a little and come out with a healthy calm.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: jay on November 22, 2017, 09:37:55 AM
Indiana is the game I am looking at that could stop the streak. Celtics will be playing their 3rd game in 4 days, and they play the night before in Boston.

Indiana also plays the night before, at home, so they dont have to travel and they are currently in the middle of 4 straight days off.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Granath on November 22, 2017, 09:40:18 AM
They might benefit from dropping this one. Seems there is a little bit of pressure building the longer it goes. Enjoying the place a tiny bit and maybe help team relax a little and come out with a healthy calm.

I don't understand posts like this.

We'll somehow benefit from losing to a conference rival? What? Oh, it's because of the "pressure". But if the Celtics can't the pressure of a simple early-season win streak, are we to expect they'll be able to handle the REAL pressure of the playoffs?

The best thing for this team is to keep finding ways to win. Show the young guys that it can be done. They'll lose their fair share anyway and they'll learn from those losses. But they'll learn from these wins as well and they'll become hardened to the type of pressure they'll have to withstand when in a dogfight with Toronto, Washington or Cleveland in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Fafnir on November 22, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
I think the media attention and energy that go into a long winning streak can effect a team's play after its over myself. I remember multiple Heat members saying so, the Warriors had similar interviews too.

Doesn't mean you should "want" to lose, but overall just adds perspective that its not as simple as reordering the wins because of the attention paid to streaks by the entire league.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Donoghus on November 22, 2017, 09:59:19 AM
I think the back & back this weekend might kick out a loss.  Tough with a home/away and its right after the holiday.

Not sure about tonight.  If the Celtics play like they did much of the Dallas game, it'll be a L but I have to think Brad couldn't have been happy with Monday night and hopefully lights a fire under them tonight.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Surferdad on November 22, 2017, 10:07:24 AM
They might benefit from dropping this one. Seems there is a little bit of pressure building the longer it goes. Enjoying the place a tiny bit and maybe help team relax a little and come out with a healthy calm.

I don't understand posts like this.

We'll somehow benefit from losing to a conference rival? What? Oh, it's because of the "pressure". But if the Celtics can't the pressure of a simple early-season win streak, are we to expect they'll be able to handle the REAL pressure of the playoffs?

The best thing for this team is to keep finding ways to win. Show the young guys that it can be done. They'll lose their fair share anyway and they'll learn from those losses. But they'll learn from these wins as well and they'll become hardened to the type of pressure they'll have to withstand when in a dogfight with Toronto, Washington or Cleveland in the playoffs.
Agreed, losing never makes sense.  Rest assured they will lose somewhere along the way.

If the C's lose due to too much fun in South Beach, then perhaps they are not as engaged with the coach as we thought.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: footey on November 22, 2017, 10:18:36 AM
Whiteside wasn't playing first time we faced them.  I worry that our rebounding advantage will diminish.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: jbpats on November 22, 2017, 10:33:25 AM
Tonight is the popular pick for the streak to end.
I listen to a lot of NBA radio on Sirius and Scal, Justin Termine and Eddie Johnson all picked this as the game that ends the streak. Predicted by all last week.

Miami is really not that good, I think it will be Orlando or Indiana.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: jambr380 on November 22, 2017, 10:44:56 AM
Whenever we lose, somebody will be the first to say, "I told you so." While it has been nice run, we aren't exactly the type of team (without Hayward) to carry a 16+ game winning streak. It has been fun and I am sure Brad will  continue to have the team prepared for each game, but at some point the team is going to come out flat and not be able to pull out the W...and that's okay.

They just need to keep taking it one game at a time, work on the areas that need work, and they should get their share of wins - hopefully winning the EC and eventually getting Hayward back.

Regardless of what happens tonight or the next few games (they will lose sometime), it has been incredibly impressive how well this young team has come together without one of their two all-stars. It's a testament to Brad and the team as a whole.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: apc on November 22, 2017, 11:18:04 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped this game tonight. I don't want it to happen but a night off in SoBe can be dangerous. I look for bad officiating, early fouls and a messy rough game. Riley will have it no other way. If we will tonight it WILL be earned.
You are probably right. But then we make a comeback in the 4th and win the game !
We’ve been there before  ;)
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: The One on November 22, 2017, 11:29:26 AM
The Maple Man from Canada is coming for revenge tonight!
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Csfan1984 on November 22, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
They might benefit from dropping this one. Seems there is a little bit of pressure building the longer it goes. Enjoying the place a tiny bit and maybe help team relax a little and come out with a healthy calm.

I don't understand posts like this.

We'll somehow benefit from losing to a conference rival? What? Oh, it's because of the "pressure". But if the Celtics can't the pressure of a simple early-season win streak, are we to expect they'll be able to handle the REAL pressure of the playoffs?

The best thing for this team is to keep finding ways to win. Show the young guys that it can be done. They'll lose their fair share anyway and they'll learn from those losses. But they'll learn from these wins as well and they'll become hardened to the type of pressure they'll have to withstand when in a dogfight with Toronto, Washington or Cleveland in the playoffs.
Agreed, losing never makes sense.  Rest assured they will lose somewhere along the way.

If the C's lose due to too much fun in South Beach, then perhaps they are not as engaged with the coach as we thought.
Losing to reduce pressure isn't a bad thing this early. Pushing too hard for a regular season game time after time each game is the grind that puts guys on edge and breaks them down. Early pushing isn't good. Guys need to pace themselves is why I think the win streak means little next to their overall health.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Surferdad on November 22, 2017, 11:57:42 AM
They might benefit from dropping this one. Seems there is a little bit of pressure building the longer it goes. Enjoying the place a tiny bit and maybe help team relax a little and come out with a healthy calm.

I don't understand posts like this.

We'll somehow benefit from losing to a conference rival? What? Oh, it's because of the "pressure". But if the Celtics can't the pressure of a simple early-season win streak, are we to expect they'll be able to handle the REAL pressure of the playoffs?

The best thing for this team is to keep finding ways to win. Show the young guys that it can be done. They'll lose their fair share anyway and they'll learn from those losses. But they'll learn from these wins as well and they'll become hardened to the type of pressure they'll have to withstand when in a dogfight with Toronto, Washington or Cleveland in the playoffs.
Agreed, losing never makes sense.  Rest assured they will lose somewhere along the way.

If the C's lose due to too much fun in South Beach, then perhaps they are not as engaged with the coach as we thought.
Losing to reduce pressure isn't a bad thing this early. Pushing too hard for a regular season game time after time each game is the grind that puts guys on edge and breaks them down. Early pushing isn't good. Guys need to pace themselves is why I think the win streak means little next to their overall health.
Csfan, that's a different argument.  Sure Brad should watch the minutes, but nobody on that team should want to lose.  That's how your post came out, though maybe it wasn't intentional.
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They might benefit from dropping this one.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: azzenfrost on November 22, 2017, 11:59:51 AM
Pressure is good this early. Let them test themselves and refuse to lose.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: slamtheking on November 22, 2017, 12:15:11 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped this game tonight. I don't want it to happen but a night off in SoBe can be dangerous. I look for bad officiating, early fouls and a messy rough game. Riley will have it no other way. If we will tonight it WILL be earned.
I suspect they'll have to endure all that but I will not accept a loss tonight simply because professional Ass-Hat Stephen A Smith predicted the Heat will win.  i want a win tonight if for no other reason to show he's even dumber than he sounds.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Csfan1984 on November 22, 2017, 12:28:10 PM
They might benefit from dropping this one. Seems there is a little bit of pressure building the longer it goes. Enjoying the place a tiny bit and maybe help team relax a little and come out with a healthy calm.

I don't understand posts like this.

We'll somehow benefit from losing to a conference rival? What? Oh, it's because of the "pressure". But if the Celtics can't the pressure of a simple early-season win streak, are we to expect they'll be able to handle the REAL pressure of the playoffs?

The best thing for this team is to keep finding ways to win. Show the young guys that it can be done. They'll lose their fair share anyway and they'll learn from those losses. But they'll learn from these wins as well and they'll become hardened to the type of pressure they'll have to withstand when in a dogfight with Toronto, Washington or Cleveland in the playoffs.
Agreed, losing never makes sense.  Rest assured they will lose somewhere along the way.

If the C's lose due to too much fun in South Beach, then perhaps they are not as engaged with the coach as we thought.
Losing to reduce pressure isn't a bad thing this early. Pushing too hard for a regular season game time after time each game is the grind that puts guys on edge and breaks them down. Early pushing isn't good. Guys need to pace themselves is why I think the win streak means little next to their overall health.
Csfan, that's a different argument.  Sure Brad should watch the minutes, but nobody on that team should want to lose.  That's how your post came out, though maybe it wasn't intentional.
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They might benefit from dropping this one.
They might benefit isn't let's lose. It's saying there could be a positive.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: CelticsElite on November 22, 2017, 09:56:40 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped this game tonight. I don't want it to happen but a night off in SoBe can be dangerous. I look for bad officiating, early fouls and a messy rough game. Riley will have it no other way. If we will tonight it WILL be earned.
this post aged well
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: KGBirdBias on November 23, 2017, 10:46:46 AM
Happy Thanksgiving!

If looked like we were playing in quicksand last night. A step slow to everything. They got way too many layups and our defense just didn't have much resistance.

Our bench has dropped off...we need them to start producing like they were earlier.

It's time to start another streak.

Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 23, 2017, 11:14:40 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped this game tonight. I don't want it to happen but a night off in SoBe can be dangerous. I look for bad officiating, early fouls and a messy rough game. Riley will have it no other way. If we will tonight it WILL be earned.

The bailouts ended last night. It is now time to get back to playing solid 2 way ball taking smart shots and making smart decisions. sadly we just were not going to learn until we lost. play with fire you will eventually get burned. we got torched last night. sad part is it is fully self inflicted. CBS needs to fix this ASAP. DA needs to get us a bench scorer ASAP! We stopped playing right a few games back and got continously bailed out. let's get back to performance based ball for 48 minutes not a 8 minute stretch in 4th quarter that bails us out.
Title: Re: Miami Nights
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 23, 2017, 02:31:11 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped this game tonight. I don't want it to happen but a night off in SoBe can be dangerous. I look for bad officiating, early fouls and a messy rough game. Riley will have it no other way. If we will tonight it WILL be earned.
I suspect they'll have to endure all that but I will not accept a loss tonight simply because professional Ass-Hat Stephen A Smith predicted the Heat will win.  i want a win tonight if for no other reason to show he's even dumber than he sounds.

welp. so much for that.