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Title: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Jamilmac99 on November 19, 2017, 12:08:35 AM
Just thought he deserved his own thread for those two ridiculous "Jordan like" plays in tonights game. Major, mind blowing, and absolutely ridiculous explosiveness on those two play. The future has arrived! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jayson F'n Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: jdz101 on November 19, 2017, 12:26:20 AM
I feel this thread
Title: Re: Jayson F'n Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Forza Juventus on November 19, 2017, 12:36:45 AM
Bill Simmons wrote that Tatum looks like a future 28 PPG/50-40-90 guy.
Title: Re: Jayson F'n Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: CelticsElite on November 19, 2017, 01:38:23 AM
Anyone remember all the "draft experts" saying he wasn't athletic ? Lol.
Title: Re: Jayson F'n Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Sophomore on November 19, 2017, 02:46:51 AM
Bill Simmons wrote that Tatum looks like a future 28 PPG/50-40-90 guy.

That’s basically Durant...
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 19, 2017, 02:51:28 AM
The kid reminds me so much of Pierce. He isn’t athletic, yet at just 19 he often gets the shot he wants. From a monitor or a desk he looks unathletic, but guarding him is a nightmare. The same was said about Pierce for a decade until he raised the Larry O’Brien trophy.

The future is bright, every team that encounters us has become aware.... we are the team to fear.

Not the Cavs.
Not the Wizards.
Not the Raptors.
Not the Giannis’.
Not the Porzingis’.

But the Boston Celtics.


Lest they forget, we are missing one of the best two-way players in the NBA.

Next season we will not be denied, mark these words.



I trust Danny and I trust Brad.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: jdz101 on November 19, 2017, 03:10:43 AM
The kid reminds me so much of Pierce. He isn’t athletic, yet at just 19 he often gets the shot he wants. From a monitor or a desk he looks unathletic, but guarding him is a nightmare. The same was said about Pierce for a decade until he raised the Larry O’Brien trophy.


I really liked the rest of your post but WHAT

Kid is super athletic for his size. He just isn't a unicorn athlete like porzingis or giannis.

https://streamable.com/8p7hw

https://streamable.com/rlkji
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 19, 2017, 04:43:45 AM
The scary thing is that BOTH he AND Jaylen are STILL learning the game...wow.

He's what? 6'8.5" already? And is only 19?

Let Jayson gain about 10-15 more pounds and in today's NBA he can play some time at PF.

Future lineup -

CF - Big Al
F - Tatum
F - GH
SG - Jaylen
PG - Kyrie

That lineup is going to torture folks.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: PaulAllen on November 19, 2017, 04:51:10 AM
only 19 so his height and length can grow... look at Giannis
with that he will eventually gain more mass as well..
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Green-18 on November 19, 2017, 05:12:02 AM
I can't wait to see how his offensive game evolves once he adds 15 lbs of muscle.  His mid-range post/face-up game is going to be a nightmare for teams to defend.  If he really grows another inch or two then he has the chance to be one of those 28 50/40/90 guys.  I am trying to temper my expectations for now though.  I don't think anyone would complain if he became an elite two-way player who falls just short of the top tier.  He doesn't need to reach Durant status if he can impact winning in every facet of the game.

I still believe that the best upside comparison for Tatum is a hybrid of Pierce and Dirk.  The sneaky athleticism, ball handling, and driving remind me of Pierce.  His post game resembles Dirk quite a bit.
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Post by: gouki88 on November 19, 2017, 05:17:14 AM
The kid reminds me so much of Pierce. He isn’t athletic, yet at just 19 he often gets the shot he wants. From a monitor or a desk he looks unathletic, but guarding him is a nightmare. The same was said about Pierce for a decade until he raised the Larry O’Brien trophy.


I really liked the rest of your post but WHAT

Kid is super athletic for his size. He just isn't a unicorn athlete like porzingis or giannis.

https://streamable.com/8p7hw

https://streamable.com/rlkji
Yeah, JT is definitely athletic. He's considerably more explosive than Pierce, but not nearly as strong. Pierce was a beefy 6'6" and 230, whereas Tatum is basically a 6'9" (or so it looks, at least), and about 220.

Worlds apart IMO
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: jdz101 on November 19, 2017, 05:41:39 AM
The kid reminds me so much of Pierce. He isn’t athletic, yet at just 19 he often gets the shot he wants. From a monitor or a desk he looks unathletic, but guarding him is a nightmare. The same was said about Pierce for a decade until he raised the Larry O’Brien trophy.


I really liked the rest of your post but WHAT

Kid is super athletic for his size. He just isn't a unicorn athlete like porzingis or giannis.

https://streamable.com/8p7hw

https://streamable.com/rlkji
Yeah, JT is definitely athletic. He's considerably more explosive than Pierce, but not nearly as strong. Pierce was a beefy 6'6" and 230, whereas Tatum is basically a 6'9" (or so it looks, at least), and about 220.

Worlds apart IMO

He glides but hes definitely not slow or unathletic, and when he wants to explode, he certainly can.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Green-18 on November 19, 2017, 05:51:35 AM
The kid reminds me so much of Pierce. He isn’t athletic, yet at just 19 he often gets the shot he wants. From a monitor or a desk he looks unathletic, but guarding him is a nightmare. The same was said about Pierce for a decade until he raised the Larry O’Brien trophy.


I really liked the rest of your post but WHAT

Kid is super athletic for his size. He just isn't a unicorn athlete like porzingis or giannis.

https://streamable.com/8p7hw

https://streamable.com/rlkji
Yeah, JT is definitely athletic. He's considerably more explosive than Pierce, but not nearly as strong. Pierce was a beefy 6'6" and 230, whereas Tatum is basically a 6'9" (or so it looks, at least), and about 220.

Worlds apart IMO

I agree for the most part although I think Tatum's athleticism is roughly on par with Pierce.  I think the extra height and length is the reason for better explosiveness.  Tatum cover a lot more ground with his first step. 

The major advantage for Pierce over Tatum as a rookie was his ball handling.  If you watch old highlights he was much more shifty in traffic.  This made him more difficult to defend in ISO situations from the perimeter.  Pierce managed to score efficiently in his early years without the benefit of a motion offense.  One can only imagine how amazing a young Pierce would have been under Brad Stevens' system.     
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: gouki88 on November 19, 2017, 07:43:37 AM
The kid reminds me so much of Pierce. He isn’t athletic, yet at just 19 he often gets the shot he wants. From a monitor or a desk he looks unathletic, but guarding him is a nightmare. The same was said about Pierce for a decade until he raised the Larry O’Brien trophy.


I really liked the rest of your post but WHAT

Kid is super athletic for his size. He just isn't a unicorn athlete like porzingis or giannis.

https://streamable.com/8p7hw

https://streamable.com/rlkji
Yeah, JT is definitely athletic. He's considerably more explosive than Pierce, but not nearly as strong. Pierce was a beefy 6'6" and 230, whereas Tatum is basically a 6'9" (or so it looks, at least), and about 220.

Worlds apart IMO

I agree for the most part although I think Tatum's athleticism is roughly on par with Pierce.  I think the extra height and length is the reason for better explosiveness.  Tatum cover a lot more ground with his first step. 

The major advantage for Pierce over Tatum as a rookie was his ball handling.  If you watch old highlights he was much more shifty in traffic.  This made him more difficult to defend in ISO situations from the perimeter.  Pierce managed to score efficiently in his early years without the benefit of a motion offense.  One can only imagine how amazing a young Pierce would have been under Brad Stevens' system.   
Oh man, PP under Brad would be ridiculous. Lucky we have JT, the next best thing ;D
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 19, 2017, 08:26:43 AM
he reminds me of Tayshaun prince ,  the way he moves gracefully ,  the IQ ,   mature game.....long reach .  .....but maybe even more to offer .   

Tatum reads the game , like a 10 year vet .  He seems to understand " the floor " , where impacts will occur moves ahead , best spots to be in .   All crazy for a 19 year old.   Only Simmons seems to have this much maturity , but his is in a guard mindset .  Tatum has the Prince Pierce small forward game.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Surferdad on November 19, 2017, 08:49:35 AM
Future star.  Two driving dunks in a row, beautiful stroke, solid defense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzKYAuUNp38
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 19, 2017, 09:02:47 AM
It is clear Ainge made the best pick in the draft last year.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 19, 2017, 09:43:34 AM
The kid reminds me so much of Pierce. He isn’t athletic, yet at just 19 he often gets the shot he wants. From a monitor or a desk he looks unathletic, but guarding him is a nightmare. The same was said about Pierce for a decade until he raised the Larry O’Brien trophy.

The future is bright, every team that encounters us has become aware.... we are the team to fear.

Not the Cavs.
Not the Wizards.
Not the Raptors.
Not the Giannis’.
Not the Porzingis’.

But the Boston Celtics.


Lest they forget, we are missing one of the best two-way players in the NBA.

Next season we will not be denied, mark these words.



I trust Danny and I trust Brad.

HE IS ATHLETIC.  THIS MYTH NEEDS TO DIE NOW!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: csfansince60s on November 19, 2017, 09:46:22 AM
Future star.  Two driving dunks in a row, beautiful stroke, solid defense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzKYAuUNp38

TP...What impressed me most about the two drives on those monster slams was that on the coast to coast drive he dribbled the entire way with his left hand and on the second, he dribbled with his right.
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 19, 2017, 09:52:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/IwTTwrG.jpg)
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on November 19, 2017, 09:53:13 AM
It is clear Ainge made the best pick in the draft last year.

you're welcome!

(https://i.imgur.com/x82yQV5.jpg)
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Fan from VT on November 19, 2017, 10:23:24 AM
I dont think the pierce comparisons would be made if he wasnt a celtic. I see more parts of tracy mcgrady, paul george, and durant
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Post by: Androslav on November 19, 2017, 10:26:13 AM
I dont think the pierce comparisons would be made if he wasnt a celtic. I see more parts of tracy mcgrady, paul george, and durant
TP. He isn't as athletic as any of these boys, but playstyle wise - yes.
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Post by: cman88 on November 19, 2017, 10:59:12 AM
Its crazy to forget he is only 19 and this is only his 17th NBA game. He is already so polished offensively, and defensively he is holding his own with his length.

I would like to see him be more aggressive with his shot when he is out with the 2nd unit as he is the best scorer. There is no reason Smart should be taking shots over him.

Scary to think what this team will look like with a healthy Gordon Hayward.
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Post by: timpiker on November 19, 2017, 11:28:21 AM
Danny is a genius
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: ChillyWilly on November 19, 2017, 11:38:03 AM
The and one dunk was KDish.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-StObhMeFlA0/UUQe1PlBeMI/AAAAAAAACxo/CQNYXW0-qEM/s1600/happy-awww.jpg)

Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: moiso on November 19, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
It is clear Ainge made the best pick in the draft last year.
He made the best pick in each of the last two drafts given that Simmons was a no brainer.  Which makes me notice that we don’t hear from Coachbo much anymore.  Not much to slam Ainge and Wyc for nowadays.
Title: Re: Jayson F'n Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: mef730 on November 19, 2017, 12:47:23 PM
Bill Simmons wrote that Tatum looks like a future 28 PPG/50-40-90 guy.

Simmons said that? [dang], and I was so hopeful for JT's future.

Mike
Title: Re: Jayson F'n Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Tr1boy on November 19, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
Bill Simmons wrote that Tatum looks like a future 28 PPG/50-40-90 guy.

Simmons said that? [dang], and I was so hopeful for JT's future.

Mike

Ha

I know he liked him...his dad was very upset celts passed on Fultz
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Post by: BringToughnessBack on November 19, 2017, 01:03:21 PM
Morning coffee and Tatum highlights from last night...Perfect! Not only did Danny make the best pick in the draft this past season but we still get one additional potential top 5 player this year or next top who knows but wow, thanks to the Nets and Sixers, we are set up for a long, long time!
Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: Redz on November 19, 2017, 01:12:50 PM
It's ridiculously enjoyable to watch him keep reaching into his bag of tricks with new stuff on a daily basis.  Brown too. 

Title: Re: Jayson Tatum!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!!
Post by: JBcat on November 19, 2017, 02:40:53 PM
The kid reminds me so much of Pierce. He isn’t athletic, yet at just 19 he often gets the shot he wants. From a monitor or a desk he looks unathletic, but guarding him is a nightmare. The same was said about Pierce for a decade until he raised the Larry O’Brien trophy.


I really liked the rest of your post but WHAT

Kid is super athletic for his size. He just isn't a unicorn athlete like porzingis or giannis.

https://streamable.com/8p7hw

https://streamable.com/rlkji
Yeah, JT is definitely athletic. He's considerably more explosive than Pierce, but not nearly as strong. Pierce was a beefy 6'6" and 230, whereas Tatum is basically a 6'9" (or so it looks, at least), and about 220.

Worlds apart IMO

Pierce doesn’t get enough credit sometimes for how athletic he was in his younger days. Probably similar to Tatum that not uber elite but a pretty good athlete with really good body control and footwork. Tatum is just so long that helps him. I think Ainge called Tatum recently an average NBA athlete. I don’t buy that. At least above average to really good just like Pierce and will have sneaky great dunks on people from time to time.
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Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on November 19, 2017, 03:30:54 PM
19....19....19....Doesn't turn 20 til March.

So much potential---even if he stays at this level for 10 years, I'd be happy.
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Post by: danglertx on November 19, 2017, 04:27:49 PM
At some point this year, or maybe next, Tatum is going to miss a free throw or two at the end of the game.  I hope people don't say he choked under the pressure because he has been money on every end game free throw so far this year.  The guy can handle pressure but eventually the odds are going to catch up to him and he will miss one.
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Post by: spikelovetheCelts on November 19, 2017, 06:13:22 PM
The number one reason I bought NBA league pass. Those dunks were to legit to quit. I see Semi and Yabu growing too we will be scary with Heyward. Celtics and Sixers like the good old days.