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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: jpotter33 on November 18, 2017, 03:54:09 PM

Title: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: jpotter33 on November 18, 2017, 03:54:09 PM
I know most people want us to use the DPE on a bench big, but I think we should prioritize scoring off the bench with the DPE.

One person who would be ideal for that role is Lou Williams, who is scoring 17 points per game for LAC off the bench. He's owed $7 million this year (the last year of his contract), and it seems doubtful that LAC would insist on keeping and resigning him if they continue to play so terribly and be outside the playoff picture.

How much do you think it'd cost to get him? Would he be worth giving up the DPE and our own pick this year with something like a top-20 protection?
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on November 18, 2017, 04:01:43 PM
Him or Belinelli, we need a scorer off the bench. That would allow us to rest our better players each game so they are ready for the long playoff run.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: CelticD on November 18, 2017, 04:16:00 PM
I'd take either player. The offense of the 2nd unit is cringe-worthy and Marcus Morris can't keep ISOing every player when he's out there with the bench unit.

I'd give the clips the DPE and Boston's own pick with no protections if they ask for it. The C's need help with the 2nd unit bad.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: hodgy03038 on November 18, 2017, 06:03:34 PM
I'd take either player. The offense of the 2nd unit is cringe-worthy and Marcus Morris can't keep ISOing every player when he's out there with the bench unit.

I'd give the clips the DPE and Boston's own pick with no protections if they ask for it. The C's need help with the 2nd unit bad.


Wut?
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: CelticD on November 18, 2017, 06:39:34 PM
I'd take either player. The offense of the 2nd unit is cringe-worthy and Marcus Morris can't keep ISOing every player when he's out there with the bench unit.

I'd give the clips the DPE and Boston's own pick with no protections if they ask for it. The C's need help with the 2nd unit bad.


Wut?

What? The pick would be in the mid-late 20's wouldn't it? I don't think a 20-something pick is gonna crack the rotation of a team with championship aspirations. Lou Will has been one of the best bench players in the league since he's been in it, I think you take that chance.

The C's are sporting the absolute worst shooting bench in the league right now, they need help. If no improvements can be made with Rozier/Smart, I'd make the deal.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Monkhouse on November 18, 2017, 06:41:16 PM
Great another scoring first point guard with absolutely nothing to offer other than scoring...

Would rather take Gerald Green. Cost the vet min, knows the system, and can catch fire in the playoffs as evidenced by the Chicago series.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: keevsnick on November 18, 2017, 06:44:19 PM
Honesty, role with the team we got. Warriors win was nice, but realistically we aren't beating them in a seven game series unless one of their stars goes down, even then they are probably favored. So why wasted minutes on a retread like Williams? Let rozier get the minutes, continue to increase brown's role in the offense.  Those options make you better for next year, when we might truly have a shot to contend with Hayward back.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: CelticD on November 18, 2017, 06:44:57 PM
Great another scoring first point guard with absolutely nothing to offer other than scoring...

Would rather take Gerald Green. Cost the vet min, knows the system, and can catch fire in the playoffs as evidenced by the Chicago series.

Another? As in we already got one?

Edit: And it didn't seem like Green played in a system to me. I didn't have league pass last season, but for the few games I saw, it looked like he just shot the ball whenever he was on the court.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: MJohnnyboy on November 18, 2017, 06:53:42 PM
I think the 2nd unit needs a shooter more than it needs a scorer. That's why I think Belinelli is the more realistic target especially since he's on a team that's not really trying to win.

I'm just excited for buyout season because the Celtics have the edge on basically everyone else.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Moranis on November 20, 2017, 02:34:41 PM
No
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: TA9 on November 20, 2017, 03:53:24 PM
I would do it. It would give us the firepower that we need in games where the rookies or the 2nd unit are struggling with scoring the basketball.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Fafnir on November 20, 2017, 04:19:37 PM
I'm not a Lou Williams fan, I really have a hard time finding anyone for the DPE that makes much sense though......

so maybe?
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Moranis on November 21, 2017, 11:30:05 AM
I'm not a Lou Williams fan, I really have a hard time finding anyone for the DPE that makes much sense though......

so maybe?
I'd rather take a flyer on someone like Okafor than Lou Williams. 
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Beat LA on November 21, 2017, 10:22:45 PM
Don't worry, guys, Ainge is just waiting until OJ Mayo is reinstated, lol :laugh:.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: jay on November 22, 2017, 09:15:12 AM
I was thinking the same thing, but wouldn't he take minutes from Terry?

Also, yes he would be good off the bench when Kyrie is not out there and we need someone to get buckets, but I don't think he could ever share the floor with Kyrie because we would be too small on defense.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on November 22, 2017, 09:45:11 AM
The value of getting a Bellinelli or a Lou Willams is that it allows Kyrie, Jalen, and Tatum to play less minutes per game so they are fresher for the playoffs.  I’d prefer Bellinelli but would also be happy with Lou.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Vermont Green on November 22, 2017, 09:52:19 AM
I read this on MassLive:

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If Hayward makes a full recovery before the Celtics' season ends, he can return with no penalty to Boston or the player acquired with the DPE.

So we could do both, sign/trade for a useful player and also get Hayward back at the end of the season?  Talk about having your cake and eating it too?  I guess we would have to cut someone from the roster to add Hayward in that case but we have dispensable players at the end of the roster.

As for Williams, I get the interest but I would not go for him, for sure not now.  No need to rush (we have until March 10).  We may suffer an injury or a team we don't suspect may have a fire sale along the way.  No need to make an impulse buy for someone like Lou Williams.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: jpotter33 on November 22, 2017, 11:43:39 PM
http://twitter.com/16WinsARing/status/933492268580745216

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb0RJ2whguw/

Beverly out for the season. Clippers shopping Jordan. The "Brick Brothers" killing our bench.

Yeah, I think now would be a good time to be considering the DPE for Williams.
Title: Re: If LAC continues to stumble, Lou Williams for the DPE?
Post by: Rondo9 on November 22, 2017, 11:56:38 PM
I think waiting is better than making reactionary moves.