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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Roy H. on November 18, 2017, 02:36:48 PM
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"We haven't played well enough to consider this win streak to be valid in my opinion," Stevens said Saturday morning at Boston's shootaround at Philips Arena. "We've figured out ways to win games. We gotta play a lot better."
"We've got to be better, and we know that," Stevens said. "We can't get so caught up in the results of all these games and ride that emotion. We've been fortunate to win a lot of the games in this streak, including Thursday night
Motivational technique, or the truth?
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"We haven't played well enough to consider this win streak to be valid in my opinion," Stevens said Saturday morning at Boston's shootaround at Philips Arena. "We've figured out ways to win games. We gotta play a lot better."
"We've got to be better, and we know that," Stevens said. "We can't get so caught up in the results of all these games and ride that emotion. We've been fortunate to win a lot of the games in this streak, including Thursday night
Motivational technique, or the truth?
Definitely both. Our offense needs work!
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Man, do I love Brad.
Can we give him a 20-year contract extension?
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I'd imagine a bit of both. Even the Warriors know they have areas they can improve on and get better at. The ability to consistently strive to improve, even when you're already on the top of the mountain, is what separates the 'very best' from the 'just good'.
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Motivational technique.
We won 14 games in a row. That's a fact. Yes, we need to get better at generating and hitting good shots. But that doesn't void the winning streak - just as the winning streak doesn't mean we have nothing to work on.
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The win streak has been great, great defense but i have been watching the nba for too long to give the win streaks to much of an importance.
The biggest take is that our offense needs to get better and it is not even a concern that it won't improve. We have had players in and out of the line up and hopefully with everybody on board we will start to score 110 points a night.
Brad is saying the right things but we have looked spectacular so far with great defense, great rebounding, great depth all the things that make a championship team.
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Barkley , Cowherd, Mazz, CBS ... you fools all the same!
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"We haven't played well enough to consider this win streak to be valid in my opinion," Stevens said Saturday morning at Boston's shootaround at Philips Arena. "We've figured out ways to win games. We gotta play a lot better."
"We've got to be better, and we know that," Stevens said. "We can't get so caught up in the results of all these games and ride that emotion. We've been fortunate to win a lot of the games in this streak, including Thursday night
Motivational technique, or the truth?
Definitely both. Our offense needs work!
Agreed, these are all young and unaccoplished or hungy veteran guys. Brad too, so they (and we fans) can't be satisfied with this "November chapionship".
Edit: although I am happy as a baby that we are riding this 14 (I predicted 47 on the thread) winning streak. :)
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Motivational technique.
We won 14 games in a row. That's a fact. Yes, we need to get better at generating and hitting good shots. But that doesn't void the winning streak - just as the winning streak doesn't mean we have nothing to work on.
BINGEAUX!!!!!!!!!!!!! we still need to stay focused on the process of PERFORMANCE and the results will come. he is right we have gotten some luck with our results compared to performances BUT WE WILL TAKE IT AND IT IS LEGIT! everybody needs some luck in these streaks and or title runs.
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I love Brad. It ain't all sweet just because the C's have been winning games. They still got work to do.
There was a thread where a contributor (can't remember the name) made a list of the offensive and defensive rankings of every NBA champion for the last 10 years. The average defensive rankings for those teams was 4.7, the average offensive ranking was 5.2.
Suffice it to say, if the C's really have championship aspirations, they need to have an offense and defense hovering around top 5 in the league. They got the defensive numbers of a championship team, but they won't be able to survive with offense this bad. They still have to figure some things out.
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I like the technique. To be honest they do leave a lot of buckets out there. I wish we had more cutters and paint buckets.
...but I'm not complaining. The PnR with Horford and Kyrie is deadly and it hasn't even matured yet. Think about how many players we can run PnR with...even with Hayward.
I absolutely LOVE the way this team is built.
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I like the technique. To be honest they do leave a lot of buckets out there. I wish we had more cutters and paint buckets.
...but I'm not complaining. The PnR with Horford and Kyrie is deadly and it hasn't even matured yet. Think about how many players we can run PnR with...even with Hayward.
I absolutely LOVE the way this team is built.
smart and theis theis baby are great at PNR
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Both. Brad knows the deal. Championship teams almost always are top 10 in both O and D. Streak has been awesome, but we are best defense in league with a below average offense right now. Offense has to get to at least above average before we are seriously a threat to the Warriors, Rockets (I don’t know their D ranks off top of my head) etc.
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Exactly what he said.
They made winning plays. They figured out how to win games.
But that doesn't mean they were playing good basketball, especially on the offensive end. They've been downright ugly at times. We have to get better there.
The cool thing is that we have another 2-3 levels we can go up on offense with our players. And then another level after that when Hayward gets back.
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total truth.
this team isn't as good as their record says they are. but given the circumstances they've earned it.
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Motivational technique, or the truth?
Both. Stevens knows we cannot achieve the goals of this team with our offense playing as poorly as it has. He's been talking about the offense needing to get better since a few games into our winning streak when the defense was clearly taking shape as top tier.
Its funny he's clearly trying to keep Smart/Rozier from being gun shy with comments to and about them, while also trying to get everyone else to move the ball and or decision make better.
Until our two primary backup guards can shoot better than 40% hard to be an above average offense.
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The shooting hasn't been great. That's true.
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he makes good points. our offense needs work, ranked 23rd. Also, we were down 17 or 18 to like 3 different teams. we cant have that happen so often
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Our offense needs work = Gordon Hayward is missing.
He is our missing offense piece.
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Sounds like a GREAT Coach (and future HOFer) to me.
Celebrate the success BUT need to work on the weaknesses. Those weaknesses will only become more prevalent in March, April and May...
This team knows they still have work to do.
#unfinishedbusiness
#getwellGH
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Our offense needs work = Gordon Hayward is missing.
He is our missing offense piece.
The starting lineup is already among the best in the league and isn't too much of an issue offensively. Kyrie is really the only one struggling from the field, and due to the volume of his shots, he brings down the overall efficiency numbers of the starting lineup. I expect his numbers to get back to normal soon.
The bench is what really contributes to the bad offensive numbers. Hayward coming back would only put Morris back on the bench. We've already seen that when Morris is paired with the 2nd unit, the go-to offense is a Morris ISO contested mid-range jumper. That won't be enough to sustain a team offensively.
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Wrong Thread.
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Coachspeak. Brad doesn't want the guys to get too full of themselves.
As for our 15th straight win. Yes we beat the Hawks but we had to come from behind again.
I know this team is confident they can mount the comeback but Brad's words have truth.
You don't want to always play from behind if you don't have to.
There's a lot of room for improvement for our Celtics. And that's a real scary thought for the rest of the NBA!
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total truth.
this team isn't as good as their record says they are. but given the circumstances they've earned it.
Actually there are. They are 15-2. To quote Bill Parcells you are what your record says you are. They earned every win. Defense wins games in the NBA. Maybe you want them to play perfect and win by 30 points every game but they are 15-2.
Coaches strive for perfection so of course Brad isn't going to be happy until everything is perfect even if that isn't realistic. Fans should just enjoy being 15-2.
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Coaches strive for perfection so of course Brad isn't going to be happy until everything is perfect even if that isn't realistic. Fans should just enjoy being 15-2.
Is the collective IQ of fans so low that they can’t be happy with our record while also acknowledging flaws? Why should it be one or the other?
It’s like saying “I love my college but the food sucks and the weather is terrible in the winter”. Those aren’t incompatible statements.
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Gotta love it when the team is winning but the coach has a ton of stuff to bring up to the team as things they have to work on. Belichick for years downplayed wins and let into his team hard for improvement in areas that fell short of excellent execution the Sunday before. Glad Stevens is that same type of coach.
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Brad is just doing what he's always done - building a team that grinds every night and doesn't look at either the opponent's record or their own record. But he's also coaching the most talent he's ever had to work with.
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Coachspeak. Brad doesn't want the guys to get too full of themselves.
As for our 15th straight win. Yes we beat the Hawks but we had to come from behind again.
I know this team is confident they can mount the comeback but Brad's words have truth.
You don't want to always play from behind if you don't have to.
There's a lot of room for improvement for our Celtics. And that's a real scary thought for the rest of the NBA!
yep. do not read press clippings they are like RAT POSION as nick saban says. lol
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total truth.
this team isn't as good as their record says they are. but given the circumstances they've earned it.
we all know when it comes down to it we will be judged WHETHER we make finals or not and beat lebron to get there. it is coming. we are getting ready. brad is preparing us for that
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You are what your record says you are.
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This is mind games from a coach trying to keep a young roster engaged and motivated to get better.
I wouldn't read much more into it.
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The offense can get better in particular and they have had a few huge come backs. He's right to say it. He's doing his job.
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We need to knock off The Cavs - everybody in the world knows it.. We as Celtic fans even before GH went down knew it.. This winning streak is about as useful as us being the #1 seed last year.
We have won alot but we have also lost to that team.. And nobody is stupid enough to think that because they are struggling right now (well they were) that by seasons end they wont be that same freight train mowing through the east that they have been for the last 3 years.. (heck, he has been 7 straight years)
So Brad is right.. These wins mean nothing if we cant stop that train and right now we have not. Heck they sucked at the start of the year and they still beat us.. (no excuses)
Thats just reality.. Brad is getting them right in the head right now.. Great coaching.
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This is mind games from a coach trying to keep a young roster engaged and motivated to get better.
I wouldn't read much more into it.
pretty much, Belichick is the best at this. Never getting too high after a win
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"You're never as good as you think you are..."
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"We haven't played well enough to consider this win streak to be valid in my opinion," Stevens said Saturday morning at Boston's shootaround at Philips Arena. "We've figured out ways to win games. We gotta play a lot better."
"We've got to be better, and we know that," Stevens said. "We can't get so caught up in the results of all these games and ride that emotion. We've been fortunate to win a lot of the games in this streak, including Thursday night
Motivational technique, or the truth?
Motivational technique AND the truth.
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"We haven't played well enough to consider this win streak to be valid in my opinion," Stevens said Saturday morning at Boston's shootaround at Philips Arena. "We've figured out ways to win games. We gotta play a lot better."
"We've got to be better, and we know that," Stevens said. "We can't get so caught up in the results of all these games and ride that emotion. We've been fortunate to win a lot of the games in this streak, including Thursday night
Motivational technique, or the truth?
Motivational technique AND the truth.
I agree on both. It's a way to keep the team to continue working hard and playing hard.
As for the getting better part, they NEED to get better. They need to fix their offense. Can't ALWAYS be trailing 15, 16, or 17 points in the game and claw your way back to win. There's only so much games where you'd mount a huge comeback to win. I feel the next one with the large deficit won't be pretty, it's bound to happen soon. This team needs to start firing in all cylinders once the first quarter begins. Make it a 20-point lead, maintain it and keep building that lead.
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Celtics > than CBS thinks
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Celtics > than CBS thinks
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