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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: unclebay on November 18, 2017, 12:10:59 PM
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I'm so tired of the Lonzo hate. He's a kid who loves to play the game and is being treated unfairly. I don't care that he's a millionaire and I don't care what his dad has said. He's a 20 year old kid with two triple doubles in his 1st 15 games. Any other rookie and he'd be heralded but because of the inexplicable expectations people put on him, he's a bust perhaps.
Just remember, he's a kid and if you hate him because he plays for the Lakers, you need to seriously address your priorities in life. He has shown mental toughness and I def believe he will succeed.
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it is celticsblog. we, by our very appearances here, hate and loath and detest and despise all things lakers. always. forever.
that lonzo is a laker means we all hate him. it is an automatic, a given.
what better priority for our lives could there be????????????????? ;D
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I honestly like Lonzo and think he's going to be fine. I also really think Lavar is just trolling the world and he's highly entertaining. If you take anything Lavar says seriously, and it makes you mad you need to check yourself. Lavar is basically black Trump except he's hurting absolutely no one with his outlandish comments.
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I see nothing wrong with "hating" Lonzo as a sports personality, and in fact think he deserves the majority of the derision he receives. He's a terrible basketball player who is in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
So I say keep piling on, and don't lay off.
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What does “hater” mean nowadays?
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A rookie with 2 triple doubles in 15 games is averaging 31-23-46 shooting splits. I don't think they'd be heralded all that much to be honest, especially if you're a #2 pick.
Sure there is extra media hype over Lonzo because of Lavar but screaming "Bust!" after a few poor games of a high draft pick is nothing new at all, especially if they're playing THIS historically bad in a city as big as LA.
Lonzo/Lavar Ball declined to work out for the C's, so I automatically am not fond of him or his camp for thinking less of this franchise. I just hope he doesn't break down mentally from this type of thing, but other than that, I hope he continues to play poorly.
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A rookie with 2 triple doubles in 15 games is averaging 31-23-46 shooting splits. I don't think they'd be heralded all that much to be honest, especially if you're a #2 pick.
Sure there is extra media hype over Lonzo because of Lavar but screaming "Bust!" after a few poor games of a high draft pick is nothing new at all, especially if they're playing THIS historically bad in a city as big as LA.
Lonzo/Lavar Ball declined to work out for the C's, so I automatically am not fond of him or his camp for thinking less of this franchise.
Pretty much how I see it too. He hasn't been very good aside from a couple of games. And he hasn't been playing in the fourth much.
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I am sure Lonzo will be fine...he should break all the records and rise to great fame in China someday.
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I suppose you don't want the Laker pick.If they keep losing by all means keep playing Lonzo the leader of Lakers. Their big hope to fast track LA and get Lebron and Paul George.
I grew up watching Russell,Cousy,Sam Jones and LA with Jerry West,Wilt and Elgin Baylor.
That is when things were black and white, even TV's and politically correct wasn't in anybodies vocabulary.The Tv's sound turned off and radio tuned to Johnny Most with his gravelly voice a legend of a homer.
The Lakers were the enemy and basketball playoffs were war in silk shorts-players bandaged and playing 40 minutes even limping.
I hope that Lonzo gets labeled BUST and it becomes a refection on Magic and his choice.I hope they have a dismal season and we get their pick
LA LA LAND GOES BUST-i still remember all the balloons held in the rafters because the Lakers were so sure they were closing the celts out-they lost
Iit was East Coast Grit vs LA flash
Even All Star games were played hard-EAST vs WEST
I live in England but from Boston, my wifeis English uses"that's not fair"and i hate that phrase .I used to say to my son just play hard and play to win and earn it.
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leave Brittney alone
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I see nothing wrong with "hating" Lonzo as a sports personality, and in fact think he deserves the majority of the derision he receives. He's a terrible basketball player who is in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
So I say keep piling on, and don't lay off.
Well, you're wrong. Happens to the best of us. He's not a terrible player and is mostly in the spotlight because he was a very good college player.
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I suppose you don't want the Laker pick.If they keep losing by all means keep playing Lonzo the leader of Lakers. Their big hope to fast track LA and get Lebron and Paul George.
I grew up watching Russell,Cousy,Sam Jones and LA with Jerry West,Wilt and Elgin Baylor.
That is when things were black and white, even TV's and politically correct wasn't in anybodies vocabulary.The Tv's sound turned off and radio tuned to Johnny Most with his gravelly voice a legend of a homer.
The Lakers were the enemy and basketball playoffs were war in silk shorts-players bandaged and playing 40 minutes even limping.
I hope that Lonzo gets labeled BUST and it becomes a refection on Magic and his choice.I hope they have a dismal season and we get their pick
LA LA LAND GOES BUST-i still remember all the balloons held in the rafters because the Lakers were so sure they were closing the celts out-they lost
Iit was East Coast Grit vs LA flash
Even All Star games were played hard-EAST vs WEST
I live in England but from Boston, my wife English uses"that not fair"and i hate that phrase .I used to say to my son just play hard and play to win and earn it.
What I don't understand about this logic is- don't you wan't the Lakers to be good so that the rivalry actually means something? Why do people want the Lakers to fail? We should want them to be good so that we can beat them and it's that much sweeter.
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I can speak for everyone in saying that I want that LA pick to convey. Imagine our squad with Hayward and a guy like Bamba/Ayton/Doncic in the mix! The Lakees will remain a bottom 5-10 team as long as Lonzo continues to play the way he is. That's the only hope we have of gwtting that pick, so if I as a Celtics fan, can contribute to that cause by throwing out as much shade, bad juju, and bad vibes in to the atmosphere, and hope that it finds its way to Lonzo's fragile, young mind, then so be it!
BEAT LA
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His line last night was 666!!:-))))))))))
That tells me ALL I need to know!!!
That is a JOKE for those of you that did not figure that out.
But, he seriously did have 6 points, 6 rebounds, and 6 asssists!!
Smitty77
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I see nothing wrong with "hating" Lonzo as a sports personality, and in fact think he deserves the majority of the derision he receives. He's a terrible basketball player who is in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
So I say keep piling on, and don't lay off.
Do you seriously see nothing wrong with hating? You have no conceivable flaw to the logic with hatred?
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Sidenote: what the [edited] is there to be mad about on this blog? We're at the absolute high-point of Celtics basketball since when? 2012? This is the best things have been in 5 years and people are asking what we need to do to succeed, who to add, etc. It's confusing.
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Sidenote: what the **** is there to be mad about on this blog? We're at the absolute high-point of Celtics basketball since when? 2012? This is the best things have been in 5 years and people are asking what we need to do to succeed, who to add, etc. It's confusing.
Regardless of the success, the Celtics are still a very flawed team. They are among the worst offensive teams in the league, and have been playing defense that is unlikely to be sustained over the course of an 82-game season.
Things are going well as of now but the C's have areas that need to be addressed.
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I see nothing wrong with "hating" Lonzo as a sports personality, and in fact think he deserves the majority of the derision he receives. He's a terrible basketball player who is in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
So I say keep piling on, and don't lay off.
Do you seriously see nothing wrong with hating? You have no conceivable flaw to the logic with hatred?
I don't hate Lonzo as a human being, I don't even know the kid.
As a sports personality, yes, I do dislike, or "hate", if you will, Lonzo. He represents everything that is wrong with sports marketing and fake celebrity. He's a terrible basketball player who receives undue hype due to his father, where he went to school, and the NBA team he plays for.
Some of ya'll really need to get off your soap box.
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Sidenote: what the **** is there to be mad about on this blog?
Who here ever said anything about being mad? Seems to me you're just projecting.
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He’s got to do three things to make CelticsBloggers respect him:
1. Play well;
2. Leave the Lakers;
3. Distance himself from his hype man father and his two brothers (one of whom is a criminal, while the other drops racial slurs on national TV and is a prima donna who can’t stand up to the competitive rigor of high school ball).
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That's a good point and I agree with you. But do you see what I mean about allowing yourself to be happy during this period of time?
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Sidenote: what the **** is there to be mad about on this blog?
Who here ever said anything about being mad? Seems to me you're just projecting.
Sorry. I'd cite the What Additions Can We Make, Should We Trade While Player Xs Value is Up, type of threads as threads that express a desire to change a team on a 14 game win streak.
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Kids got a broken shot that would need to rebuilt completely.
He is his father’s (a man who is as far out of reality as they get) puppet and they want to live on the hype train, they have to die on it.
I’m loving how trash he’s been playing. Yeah he may put up decent stats other than scoring, but he a PG with an 84 ORtg, 17 points less than his DRtg, which is brutal, even for the Lakers.
I hope the Lakers draft the other two Ball brothers too.
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He’s got to do three things to make CelticsBloggers respect him:
1. Play well;
2. Leave the Lakers;
3. Distance himself from his hype man father and his two brothers (one of whom is a criminal, while the other drops racial slurs on national TV and is a prima donna who can’t stand up to the competitive rigor of high school ball).
I'd respect him plenty if he did #1 & #3. I think most people are capable of respecting opponents, even Lakers players, if they play well enough to earn it.
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I see nothing wrong with "hating" Lonzo as a sports personality, and in fact think he deserves the majority of the derision he receives. He's a terrible basketball player who is in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
So I say keep piling on, and don't lay off.
Well, you're wrong. Happens to the best of us. He's not a terrible player and is mostly in the spotlight because he was a very good college player.
come on
he was good
but that's not why he's hyped up more than any other player since lebron
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I see nothing wrong with "hating" Lonzo as a sports personality, and in fact think he deserves the majority of the derision he receives. He's a terrible basketball player who is in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
So I say keep piling on, and don't lay off.
Do you seriously see nothing wrong with hating? You have no conceivable flaw to the logic with hatred?
I don't hate Lonzo as a human being, I don't even know the kid.
As a sports personality, yes, I do dislike, or "hate", if you will, Lonzo. He represents everything that is wrong with sports marketing and fake celebrity. He's a terrible basketball player who receives undue hype due to his father, where he went to school, and the NBA team he plays for.
Some of ya'll really need to get off your soap box.
TP, my dude!
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I suppose you don't want the Laker pick.If they keep losing by all means keep playing Lonzo the leader of Lakers. Their big hope to fast track LA and get Lebron and Paul George.
I grew up watching Russell,Cousy,Sam Jones and LA with Jerry West,Wilt and Elgin Baylor.
That is when things were black and white, even TV's and politically correct wasn't in anybodies vocabulary.The Tv's sound turned off and radio tuned to Johnny Most with his gravelly voice a legend of a homer.
The Lakers were the enemy and basketball playoffs were war in silk shorts-players bandaged and playing 40 minutes even limping.
I hope that Lonzo gets labeled BUST and it becomes a refection on Magic and his choice.I hope they have a dismal season and we get their pick
LA LA LAND GOES BUST-i still remember all the balloons held in the rafters because the Lakers were so sure they were closing the celts out-they lost
Iit was East Coast Grit vs LA flash
Even All Star games were played hard-EAST vs WEST
I live in England but from Boston, my wife English uses"that not fair"and i hate that phrase .I used to say to my son just play hard and play to win and earn it.
What I don't understand about this logic is- don't you wan't the Lakers to be good so that the rivalry actually means something? Why do people want the Lakers to fail? We should want them to be good so that we can beat them and it's that much sweeter.
Have you looked at the championship count lately? 2010 was absolutely devastating - instead of being up 18-15, we are only barely ahead of them at 17-16 (I also agree with the LA/Minny championship split, but not everybody does).
Until we hoist a few more championship trophies, I am perfectly happy having the Lakers be as bad as possible. I don't even want them to make the playoffs as the 8th seed as it would give them a 'chance.' Lonzo Bonzo leading that team into the ground would be perfect for me.
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Lol, no. It's fun ans he makes it really easy to hate his game and the way he acts
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I am sure Lonzo will be fine...he should break all the records and rise to great fame in China someday.
well, that depends upon the level of his steals, no? ;D
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Sidenote: what the **** is there to be mad about on this blog? We're at the absolute high-point of Celtics basketball since when? 2012? This is the best things have been in 5 years and people are asking what we need to do to succeed, who to add, etc. It's confusing.
Regardless of the success, the Celtics are still a very flawed team. They are among the worst offensive teams in the league, and have been playing defense that is unlikely to be sustained over the course of an 82-game season.
Things are going well as of now but the C's have areas that need to be addressed.
yep, but maybe the celtics will get lucky in the off season and pick up a great offensive player. maybe someone like gordan hayward!!! ;D
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I see nothing wrong with "hating" Lonzo as a sports personality, and in fact think he deserves the majority of the derision he receives. He's a terrible basketball player who is in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
So I say keep piling on, and don't lay off.
Well, you're wrong. Happens to the best of us. He's not a terrible player and is mostly in the spotlight because he was a very good college player.
come on
he was good
but that's not why he's hyped up more than any other player since lebron
I was reading articles and hearing about Lonzo the basketball player way before his father stole the scene.
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That's a good point and I agree with you. But do you see what I mean about allowing yourself to be happy during this period of time?
I am happy with the Celtics, Mike.
You know what else makes me happy? Seeing the rival Lakers and the national media hype machine fall on its face.
I was too young to appreciate the great Celtics teams of the 80's. I really only started watching b-ball in the 90's.
During that time I got to see the C's get hosed by
- horrible ownership (Paul Gaston anyone?)
- Rick Pitino (trading away Billups and Joe Jonson)
- David Stern (no Reggie Lewis cap relief after his tragic death, no luck in the lottery, shaft-jobs in the 2010 Finals against the Lakers and the 2011-2012 playoffs against the Heat)
- God (death of Lewis and Bias, the decline of Bird and Co due to debilitating injuries, the Perk injury in game 6 of the freaking Finals, and the general derailment of a budding KG/PP dynasty due to a horrible injury to a previously ironclad Kevin Garnett)
In this same time frame the Lakers got literally every break imaginable (not going to list them because it's sickening), culminating in this last year's lottery, in which they got the #2 pick, allowing them keep their pick and draft the hometown binky Lonzo Ball. The same Lonzo who refused to work out for us, the same Lonzo who will not disavow his father's insane attention-grabbing comments. The Ball Washers in the national media eat it up while ignoring our own success, remember ESPN's "Lonzo Wednesday" commercials before the C's/Laker game last week?
So yeah, I'm going to relish Tebow 2.0 and the Lakers' abysmal failures so far. We're doing things the right way here and our archrivals are proving themselves to be the buffoons we knew them to be. The worm has turned.
It's a great time to be a Celtics fan.
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I'm so tired of the Lonzo hate. He's a kid who loves to play the game and is being treated unfairly. I don't care that he's a millionaire and I don't care what his dad has said. He's a 20 year old kid with two triple doubles in his 1st 15 games. Any other rookie and he'd be heralded but because of the inexplicable expectations people put on him, he's a bust perhaps.
Just remember, he's a kid and if you hate him because he plays for the Lakers, you need to seriously address your priorities in life. He has shown mental toughness and I def believe he will succeed.
He doesn't have two triple doubles.
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A lot of the dislike for Lonzo should be blamed on the media and outlets like Espn. People should be boycotting Espn.com and watching espns games on Reddit.
Furthermore, we’re all posting on this topic and fanning the flames. If 2 of our 5 most recently active topics are about Lonzo Ball, then we’re all doing our part in keeping this marketing BS going.
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A lot of the dislike for Lonzo should be blamed on the media and outlets like Espn. People should be boycotting Espn.com and watching espns games on Reddit.
Furthermore, we’re all posting on this topic and fanning the flames. If 2 of our 5 most recently active topics are about Lonzo Ball, then we’re all doing our part in keeping this marketing BS going.
I hardly ever watch ESPN anymore anyways, aside from a few nationally-televised games. When the game is over I change the channel.
And the Lonzo coverage will fade away just like it did for Tebow. But I'm still going to get a few shots in while I can.
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A lot of the dislike for Lonzo should be blamed on the media and outlets like Espn. People should be boycotting Espn.com and watching espns games on Reddit.
Furthermore, we’re all posting on this topic and fanning the flames. If 2 of our 5 most recently active topics are about Lonzo Ball, then we’re all doing our part in keeping this marketing BS going.
I hardly ever watch ESPN anymore anyways, aside from a few nationally-televised games. When the game is over I change the channel.
And the Lonzo coverage will fade away just like it did for Tebow. But I'm still going to get a few shots in while I can.
Hey, I’m here posting about it too. Hard not to. But I’ve gotten over my dislike for Lavar and agree that he’s like a harmless black Trump which I’ve been saying for months.
I hope Lonzo never leads LA to a title, but I also hope he figures out the shooting.. next year... after we get their pick which lands at #2 :)
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I'm so tired of the Lonzo hate. He's a kid who loves to play the game and is being treated unfairly. I don't care that he's a millionaire and I don't care what his dad has said. He's a 20 year old kid with two triple doubles in his 1st 15 games. Any other rookie and he'd be heralded but because of the inexplicable expectations people put on him, he's a bust perhaps.
Just remember, he's a kid and if you hate him because he plays for the Lakers, you need to seriously address your priorities in life. He has shown mental toughness and I def believe he will succeed.
first off he is NOT a kid. he was a adult when he hit 18
second, are you a lakers fan? Then why are you posting here?
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leave Brittney alone
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
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A lot of the dislike for Lonzo should be blamed on the media and outlets like Espn. People should be boycotting Espn.com and watching espns games on Reddit.
Furthermore, we’re all posting on this topic and fanning the flames. If 2 of our 5 most recently active topics are about Lonzo Ball, then we’re all doing our part in keeping this marketing BS going.
I hardly ever watch ESPN anymore anyways, aside from a few nationally-televised games. When the game is over I change the channel.
And the Lonzo coverage will fade away just like it did for Tebow. But I'm still going to get a few shots in while I can.
Hey, I’m here posting about it too. Hard not to. But I’ve gotten over my dislike for Lavar and agree that he’s like a harmless black Trump which I’ve been saying for months.
I hope Lonzo never leads LA to a title, but I also hope he figures out the shooting.. next year... after we get their pick which lands at #2 :)
right like he and trump are comparable. puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. lavar isnt even in the same atmosphere as trump.
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A lot of the dislike for Lonzo should be blamed on the media and outlets like Espn. People should be boycotting Espn.com and watching espns games on Reddit.
Furthermore, we’re all posting on this topic and fanning the flames. If 2 of our 5 most recently active topics are about Lonzo Ball, then we’re all doing our part in keeping this marketing BS going.
I hardly ever watch ESPN anymore anyways, aside from a few nationally-televised games. When the game is over I change the channel.
And the Lonzo coverage will fade away just like it did for Tebow. But I'm still going to get a few shots in while I can.
Hey, I’m here posting about it too. Hard not to. But I’ve gotten over my dislike for Lavar and agree that he’s like a harmless black Trump which I’ve been saying for months.
I hope Lonzo never leads LA to a title, but I also hope he figures out the shooting.. next year... after we get their pick which lands at #2 :)
right like he and trump are comparable. puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. lavar isnt even in the same atmosphere as trump.
Their manipulation of the media with outlandish, trollish comments are absolutely comparable. It’s just that each guys potential to do damage is night and day.
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I'm so tired of the Lonzo hate. He's a kid who loves to play the game and is being treated unfairly. I don't care that he's a millionaire and I don't care what his dad has said. He's a 20 year old kid with two triple doubles in his 1st 15 games. Any other rookie and he'd be heralded but because of the inexplicable expectations people put on him, he's a bust perhaps.
Just remember, he's a kid and if you hate him because he plays for the Lakers, you need to seriously address your priorities in life. He has shown mental toughness and I def believe he will succeed.
first off he is NOT a kid. he was a adult when he hit 18
second, are you a lakers fan? Then why are you posting here?
No, just a rational human being who's also a die hard Celtics fan.
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Luke Walton says Lakers teammate spoke to Lonzo Ball about walking away from Suns scuffle
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21461747/luke-walton-says-los-angeles-lakers-teammate-spoke-lonzo-ball-avoiding-phoenix-suns-scuffle
"Someone on our team talked with him," Walton said after the Lakers' practice on Saturday. "It's all part of the learning process."
The even-keeled Ball explained that he was trying to avoid any further trouble.
"It's the NBA," Ball said after the Lakers lost 122-113 to the Suns. "People ain't really gonna fight. I ain't trying to get no technical."
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Hate the LaVar, not the Lonzo.
Lonzo will be fine by the way, his court vision is elite. His floor is Rondo.
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We should.
Signed - Diehard Celtics Fan - since 1981.
Magic - we STILL owe you for that heartbreaking hook in 1987. Let that draft pick of yours convey and we'll call it even.
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"May The Los Angeles Lakers toil in lottery purgatory for the next 20 years" ;D ;D
But seriously Lonzo will be fine and his Dad is HILARIOUS. Love him. Liangelo made a mistake and he'll be fine as well.
For Lonzo to have that HEIGHT and COURT VISION alone is HUGE. That court vision reminds me so much of Rajon Rondo. That height - as he gets accustomed to the NBA - will help him as well.
Give him time he'll learn.
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Luke Walton says Lakers teammate spoke to Lonzo Ball about walking away from Suns scuffle
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21461747/luke-walton-says-los-angeles-lakers-teammate-spoke-lonzo-ball-avoiding-phoenix-suns-scuffle
"Someone on our team talked with him," Walton said after the Lakers' practice on Saturday. "It's all part of the learning process."
The even-keeled Ball explained that he was trying to avoid any further trouble.
"It's the NBA," Ball said after the Lakers lost 122-113 to the Suns. "People ain't really gonna fight. I ain't trying to get no technical."
Good for Lonzo. It's pathetic that he's getting flak for walking away from a fight between two crappy teams that need to focus on basketball. Makes me like him more.
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Luke Walton says Lakers teammate spoke to Lonzo Ball about walking away from Suns scuffle
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21461747/luke-walton-says-los-angeles-lakers-teammate-spoke-lonzo-ball-avoiding-phoenix-suns-scuffle
"Someone on our team talked with him," Walton said after the Lakers' practice on Saturday. "It's all part of the learning process."
The even-keeled Ball explained that he was trying to avoid any further trouble.
"It's the NBA," Ball said after the Lakers lost 122-113 to the Suns. "People ain't really gonna fight. I ain't trying to get no technical."
Good for Lonzo. It's pathetic that he's getting flak for walking away from a fight between two crappy teams that need to focus on basketball. Makes me like him more.
I hate his dad, and his badly-influenced younger brother. But that was definitely a smart move to walk away. Let Brook Lopez break up the skirmish. Unless this thing breaks out into a Malice At The Palace, it's just the "tough guy" chest-bumping actions lol.
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I want the Lakers to suck as long as possible and if that means wanting Lonzo to fail as a player while on the Lakers, then so be it. I want a top pick next year and for that to happen, LA and Lonzo need to suck.
I also hate the hype the media gives this kid. I haven't seen hype this grand for a rookie since Lebron. Lebron deserved the hype. Ball doesn't.
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here is an interesting stat on lonzo. in the last three game he has taken a total of TWO free throws, and missed them both.
on the season, he gets to the line 1.6 times a game and shoots 46%. i know he is not a good shooter, but his is amazingly poor start. maybe it will just be a small sample size and change.
but more interesting is how infrequently he gets to shoot free throws, and he averages 33 minutes a game.