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Title: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: celticsclay on November 11, 2017, 12:34:42 AM
They had a big upset win tonight. Winning in Portland. That would have been devastating the last few years. Now they are 5-7 with many other new bad teams. So happy we don't have to sweat that anymore. I think it ends up 8-10
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 11, 2017, 12:44:32 AM
They had a big upset win tonight. Winning in Portland. That would have been devastating the last few years. Now they are 5-7 with many other new bad teams. So happy we don't have to sweat that anymore. I think it ends up 8-10

I mean, I’d rather have it than not.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 12:47:30 AM
Yes. That pick will not be as good. Nets strength of schedule is not as hard as other teams. Also they seem to be winning as underdogs a lot more times than people thought they would

Plus, Kyrie will be better than anyone coming out that draft let’s be honest. 

Last, the salary from the pick especially combined with lakers pick would have complicated the teams finances. We are already tight in salary. I’m guessing Resigning smart or rozier may not have been an option with the extra pick occupying mid to late lottery salary.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2017, 12:48:58 AM
I'd definitely take it if the Cavs don't want it for some reason lol.

I do think there is a decent chance the Lakers/Kings pick ends up being "better" than the Nets pick. But the BKN pick is still one of the very best picks out there and it will be in the high lottery. Lakers and Nets are very similar quality teams right now.

The Mavs/Kings/Bulls/Hawks all look like they will be worse than the Nets, but that's it.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 12:52:46 AM
I'd definitely take it if the Cavs don't want it for some reason lol.

I do think there is a decent chance the Lakers/Kings pick ends up being "better" than the Nets pick. But the BKN pick is still one of the very best picks out there and it will be in the high lottery. Lakers and Nets are very similar quality teams right now.

The Mavs/Kings/Bulls/Hawks all look like they will be worse than the Nets, but that's it.
suns and probably jazz are worse than the nets too. Cavs May also be. Look at their record lol
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: celticsclay on November 11, 2017, 12:53:43 AM
I'd definitely take it if the Cavs don't want it for some reason lol.

I do think there is a decent chance the Lakers/Kings pick ends up being "better" than the Nets pick. But the BKN pick is still one of the very best picks out there and it will be in the high lottery. Lakers and Nets are very similar quality teams right now.

The Mavs/Kings/Bulls/Hawks all look like they will be worse than the Nets, but that's it.

I guess somehow I framed this badly. I obviously wish we had it if it didn't cost us anything. I was more trying to say it is nice we don't have to swear it (cause it is stressful) and it doesn't seem like it will be as good as the time we traded it
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2017, 12:59:14 AM
I'd definitely take it if the Cavs don't want it for some reason lol.

I do think there is a decent chance the Lakers/Kings pick ends up being "better" than the Nets pick. But the BKN pick is still one of the very best picks out there and it will be in the high lottery. Lakers and Nets are very similar quality teams right now.

The Mavs/Kings/Bulls/Hawks all look like they will be worse than the Nets, but that's it.
suns and probably jazz are worse than the nets too. Cavs May also be. Look at their record lol
Jazz have an elite defense and good home court advantage. They're not going to be as bad as the Nets. Suns I'd group with the Lakers/Nets right now. They've been looking a lot better since they fired Watson we'll see if they can keep up this current effort level for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2017, 01:00:09 AM
I'd definitely take it if the Cavs don't want it for some reason lol.

I do think there is a decent chance the Lakers/Kings pick ends up being "better" than the Nets pick. But the BKN pick is still one of the very best picks out there and it will be in the high lottery. Lakers and Nets are very similar quality teams right now.

The Mavs/Kings/Bulls/Hawks all look like they will be worse than the Nets, but that's it.

I guess somehow I framed this badly. I obviously wish we had it if it didn't cost us anything. I was more trying to say it is nice we don't have to swear it (cause it is stressful) and it doesn't seem like it will be as good as the time we traded it
Kinda, I still think they're a bottom 5 team right? When we traded it that's what it looked to be with so many other teams tanking hard to say with much certainty beyond that.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: azzenfrost on November 11, 2017, 01:28:37 AM
I'm not happy about not having that pick. But I'm not too bothered by it either.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: celticsclay on November 11, 2017, 01:38:13 AM
I'd definitely take it if the Cavs don't want it for some reason lol.

I do think there is a decent chance the Lakers/Kings pick ends up being "better" than the Nets pick. But the BKN pick is still one of the very best picks out there and it will be in the high lottery. Lakers and Nets are very similar quality teams right now.

The Mavs/Kings/Bulls/Hawks all look like they will be worse than the Nets, but that's it.

I guess somehow I framed this badly. I obviously wish we had it if it didn't cost us anything. I was more trying to say it is nice we don't have to swear it (cause it is stressful) and it doesn't seem like it will be as good as the time we traded it
Kinda, I still think they're a bottom 5 team right? When we traded it that's what it looked to be with so many other teams tanking hard to say with much certainty beyond that.

I honestly don't think they are bottom 5 anymore. I would say that whether we owned the pick or not
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: mr. dee on November 11, 2017, 02:07:27 AM
If there is a team I would be fine losing against, it's the Nets, lol.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: timpiker on November 11, 2017, 08:53:20 AM
Kyrie F'in Irving.  Nuff said.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Surferdad on November 11, 2017, 09:06:22 AM
I'd definitely take it if the Cavs don't want it for some reason lol.

I do think there is a decent chance the Lakers/Kings pick ends up being "better" than the Nets pick. But the BKN pick is still one of the very best picks out there and it will be in the high lottery. Lakers and Nets are very similar quality teams right now.

The Mavs/Kings/Bulls/Hawks all look like they will be worse than the Nets, but that's it.

I guess somehow I framed this badly. I obviously wish we had it if it didn't cost us anything. I was more trying to say it is nice we don't have to swear it (cause it is stressful) and it doesn't seem like it will be as good as the time we traded it
Well don't know about you, but I'm 'sweating' the Lakers/Kings pick.  There will always be something to sweat about.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 11, 2017, 09:09:50 AM
That nets pick seems like the last card Cavs FO has to put in play to entice Bron to stay .   Bron maybe is very interested to see WHAT they spend it on as well.  A vet star or a Tatum like wonder youth pick .  They need a top 5 .  Much above that Bron will bolt.

Bottom line James needs help ...playing full out every game is not worth 200 million
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: slamtheking on November 11, 2017, 09:10:37 AM
They had a big upset win tonight. Winning in Portland. That would have been devastating the last few years. Now they are 5-7 with many other new bad teams. So happy we don't have to sweat that anymore. I think it ends up 8-10

I mean, I’d rather have it than not.
this.

I was strongly against the trade because the pick made it a drastic overpay.  still think it's an overpay despite how much I prefer Kyrie over IT on the team.   If IT misses up to the all-star break, I may call the pick an understandable necessity to do the deal.   

Still think that pick will end up in the top 8.  would have preferred Danny either offer up the lesser of the Nets/Lakers pick next year or put a top-1 restriction on it like Philly did to us with the Laker and Kings picks
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on November 11, 2017, 09:26:01 AM
Certainly not *happy* not to have it, but the more wins they pick up, the more it seems like the chances of the Nets pick turning into an asset better than Kyrie go down. It's too early to evaluate, but it's hard not to think the Celtics did poorly with their trade right now. Crowder has been terrible, IT is still out and the Nets aren't as bad as they seemed.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 11, 2017, 10:21:06 AM
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Certainly not *happy* not to have it, but the more wins they pick up, the more it seems like the chances of the Nets pick turning into an asset better than Kyrie go down. It's too early to evaluate, but it's hard not to think the Celtics did poorly with their trade right now. Crowder has been terrible, IT is still out and the Nets aren't as bad as they seemed.

It's gone and it's not coming back.   The Nets pick is not walking through that door.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: mctyson on November 11, 2017, 10:40:31 AM
I am still not happy that we had to include that pick with IT and Crowder and Zizic to get Kyrie.

But I can see now that Kyrie really is worth that much and that IT really might not be the same ever again.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Kaz on November 11, 2017, 11:09:45 AM
Was pretty bummed that it was part of the trade because I wanted a chance of absurdity if the Celtics somehow landed Bagley.  However, seeing the Nets rounding into a bad but not turrible team in a league with plenty of blatant tankers such as the Hawks, Bulls, and Suns makes it suck significantly less.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 11, 2017, 11:16:08 AM
They had a big upset win tonight. Winning in Portland. That would have been devastating the last few years. Now they are 5-7 with many other new bad teams. So happy we don't have to sweat that anymore. I think it ends up 8-10
Strange post.  Yes we don't have the Nets pick but we have the Lakers/Kings "to sweat over" now. 

Give me an unprotected 1st from a bad team any day.  I'd guess the Nets will finish 6th to 8th worse.  The 8th worst team has a 10% chance of a top 3 pick.  There should be good prospects, like Robert Williams and Miles Bridges, available in the 6-8+ range.  To top it off the Nets pick is still a great trade asset.   
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 02:46:34 PM
They keep winning. The isn’t the same team that got us Tatum and brown
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: mef730 on November 11, 2017, 03:00:23 PM
I still think that they're bottom 3 by the end of the year.

Having said that, we have Kyrie Irving now and that makes me happy.

Mike
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 11, 2017, 03:00:44 PM
It's still WAAAY too early, but that Nets pick and CLE's current losing skid could very well form the nails in the coffin to LeBron leaving for LA.

BKN keeps winning and CLE continues to stumble? He's gone.

What does he owe CLE? He already won a banner there - their first (and ONLY) one in the history of the city.

No - I don't have ANY sources or links but just as a fan the Lakers are my best guess for his destination.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Emmette Bryant on November 11, 2017, 03:38:59 PM
Although I still wish we had it, anything that makes me obsess less is good.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 11, 2017, 03:55:44 PM
It's still WAAAY too early, but that Nets pick and CLE's current losing skid could very well form the nails in the coffin to LeBron leaving for LA.

BKN keeps winning and CLE continues to stumble? He's gone.

What does he owe CLE? He already won a banner there - their first (and ONLY) one in the history of the city.

No - I don't have ANY sources or links but just as a fan the Lakers are my best guess for his destination.


If he leaves , it has to be a city, team , Front Office that pretty much needs t to hand him a big say in everything .  Alot of the old school Owners and their coaches aren't giving him the power to move in and run their franchise.   Spurs won't do that , Mavs won't .....It has to be the Lakers or maybe Clippers that would give Lebron the power he thinks he needs for his diva personality .  .  Lakers run a star driven system , TV first media crazy , everything is about names and glitter .  I just don't see Lebron going team, and taking his place as just a player and team leader.  He wants to run the  team be the. coach , call plays , be involved in GM aspects.  He is not that smart .....just like Doc .   And Magic Johnson.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: mef730 on November 11, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Although I still wish we had it, anything that makes me obsess less is good.

A huge +1. Glad I'm not alone.

Mike
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: mmmmm on November 11, 2017, 05:07:06 PM
Let's wait a while.   So far, the Nets have played THE easiest strength of schedule.

Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: celticsclay on November 11, 2017, 06:50:53 PM
Although I still wish we had it, anything that makes me obsess less is good.

A huge +1. Glad I'm not alone.

Mike

+1 fellas. This is what I was getting at
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Emmette Bryant on November 11, 2017, 08:25:48 PM
Although I still wish we had it, anything that makes me obsess less is good.

A huge +1. Glad I'm not alone.

Mike

+1 fellas. This is what I was getting at

 For me, I think that it's best to just obsess about the Celtics. TP's all around.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Jvalin on November 11, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
I'd rather have Ayton than Irving. Kid is a monster. Having said that, chances are that he won't be available with the Nets pick.
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: Erik on November 11, 2017, 10:15:12 PM
Pretty sure Danny has his eyes on SAC19. He'll most likely flip it for a star though after LAL18 doesn't convey,
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: MattyIce on November 12, 2017, 12:36:34 PM
I was feeling better yesterday....

Brooklyn Nets guard D'Angelo Russell is likely to miss several games with a left knee injury, league sources tell ESPN. He will undergo further evaluation. He was hurt in loss to Jazz on Saturday night.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/929757715261304833
Title: Re: Anyone else happy we don't have nets pick?
Post by: mrceltics2013 on November 12, 2017, 12:42:03 PM
Why would you be happy that we no longer have a free unprotected draft pick that will still possibly be lottery?