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Title: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2017, 10:10:37 PM
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/10/13/nba-coaches-question-if-speeding-preseason-truly-better#/

I thought this is interesting. We've already seen many injuries in the first week of the season, and Jason Kidd and several other coaches say its due to the shortened preseason and lack of preparation.

I wonder if this is also affecting the outcome of games early on with sloppy play and poor officiating. Just tonight for example GS, Cleveland, and OKC are all looking bad against poorer teams.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Watching some of these games tonight, teams really do look very poorly prepared to play so far this season. Some ugly basketball around the league tonight. NBA putting out a poor product.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: jambr380 on October 21, 2017, 10:59:09 PM
The shortened pre-season could have something to do with it, but I also think that there wasn't enough time between the beginning of training camp and the start of the season. We had so many new players and so little time to prepare.

The reasoning is terrible, too, as it is 100% about having fewer back to backs so that teams won't rest their star players for marquee games. I know these guys make a lot of money because of the fans/tv, but altering the length of the season for this always seemed a little irresponsible.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: Billz401 on October 22, 2017, 12:33:50 AM
What I found to be quite comical was that the NBA was all about starting the season earlier and eliminating as many back to backs as they could. And then they go and schedule 15 back to backs in the first 5 days of the season...
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on October 22, 2017, 06:31:30 AM
It's a ridiculous assessment, the injuries in the spotlight which give bias to the thought of how many players are injured are not due to unpreparedness.

In all, I don't buy what they're trying to sell about shortened preseason and all that. If the league was going to start sooner this year, players should've started to prepare sooner as well.

If they didn't, it's on them, not on the NBA schedule which I fully support (the shortening of preseason part).

I mean, in previous years the complaint was how many players got injured in meaningless preseason games... so... what gives?
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: RockinRyA on October 22, 2017, 07:23:37 AM
It's a ridiculous assessment, the injuries in the spotlight which give bias to the thought of how many players are injured are not due to unpreparedness.

In all, I don't buy what they're trying to sell about shortened preseason and all that. If the league was going to start sooner this year, players should've started to prepare sooner as well.

If they didn't, it's on them, not on the NBA schedule which I fully support (the shortening of preseason part).

I mean, in previous years the complaint was how many players got injured in meaningless preseason games... so... what gives?

Preparing sooner would also mean less rest and relaxation, both of which are needed after long grueling seasons.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on October 22, 2017, 08:06:18 AM
It's a ridiculous assessment, the injuries in the spotlight which give bias to the thought of how many players are injured are not due to unpreparedness.

In all, I don't buy what they're trying to sell about shortened preseason and all that. If the league was going to start sooner this year, players should've started to prepare sooner as well.

If they didn't, it's on them, not on the NBA schedule which I fully support (the shortening of preseason part).

I mean, in previous years the complaint was how many players got injured in meaningless preseason games... so... what gives?

Preparing sooner would also mean less rest and relaxation, both of which are needed after long grueling seasons.

Most of the NBA players end their season on April.

We start the season in October, that's about 6 months give or take. We started the season merely 2 weeks earlier than normal.

Come on now.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: mr. dee on October 22, 2017, 08:09:00 AM
If I recall correctly, the 2012 lockout season also have some share of early season injuries.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: Roy H. on October 22, 2017, 08:11:52 AM
So no data at all?  Just Jason Kidd complaining, when he said the exact opposite  thing two years ago?

Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: Sketch5 on October 22, 2017, 08:16:17 AM
Most players are working out hard in August and September. So why no make it more of an official training camp the start of September, and ease the players into a work out schedule. Most of our guys were here by mid Sept so it wouldn't really put anyone out.

If players are smart, they rest the month of June. Start working on their improvements the month of July and conditioning August.

With what they are trying to do during the season by giving more teams days off or practice should work out in the long run, but they should have started camps a little early.

I also don't think this had to do with Haywards injury, that was a freak thing to happen.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: mctyson on October 22, 2017, 09:01:54 AM
Injuries for athletes are only due to one thing: being and athlete.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 22, 2017, 09:20:01 AM
So no data at all?  Just Jason Kidd complaining, when he said the exact same thing two years ago?
I love how they hid that statement in the middle of the article.  No data so they can't even misuse statistics.   
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: Moranis on October 22, 2017, 11:19:03 AM
The article doesn't claim this at all. It is just two coaches complaining a week ago about having less time.
Title: Re: Article claiming increased injuries this season are due to shortened preseason
Post by: Big333223 on October 23, 2017, 10:21:20 AM
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A number of NBA players have suffered injuries this preseason, though data isn’t readily available to determine if the rate is greater or less than past preseasons.

So this is an article about how Jason Kidd is a whiner.