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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: rondohondo on October 18, 2017, 04:07:44 PM
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Hmmmm , level playing field?
His face/ head is literally a square block head.
Biggest I have ever seen him....
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I was thinking same thing and told my friend he has to be taking something lol..
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I've thought this for years - makes u wonder if the NFL or the NBA has similar testing as MLB
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I was thinking same thing and told my friend he has to be taking something lol..
He did spend the whole offseason in the "lab" ...his words
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I mean honestly not really. Size wise the guy actually looks slimmer than he has in past. I wonder if he's on the same program as Brady and Smart.
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He's just an immense human being, an imposing athletic figure even to his peers. Listen to Tatum's interview after the Cavs game and that's coming from a very tall elite athlete himself.
Similar to Shaq, just bigger and stronger than his peers combined with supreme skill.
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If the Lebron is on something then he’d obviously not be alone. I’m sure it’s an eve playing field.
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I hate to consider this as a possibility, because it would cast doubt on the entire NBA. We'd suddenly have to question everything, the way everyone does in baseball and track&field and cycling.
But honestly? Someone in the NBA is doing it. There's too much money, ego and competition involved for this not to be the case. Couple that with the following truths:
1. During the Biogenesis scandal the whistleblower said players from other leagues including the NBA received drugs from the organization. Only baseball investigated.
2. The NBA's doping policy is laughably weak. Players are tested, I think, four times at random throughout the season. If your fourth test comes in February? Lucky you - you're done with testing for the rest of the year. Because of player union's pushback, bloodtesting / biological passports are considered too invasive and they won't agree to it.
3. Despite what some believe, steroids, EPO, blood transfusions and so on would CERTAINLY aid NBA players - not only for strength, speed and endurance, but for recovery as well.
With that said, who knows. I like to believe the league is clean, and it may very well be. But when your ability to recover from an injury, or get a step on an opponent can land you millions of dollars and security... I can certainly imagine guys having a hard time saying "no."
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Same thing has been said about Serena Williams.
Kids at my wife's school have made comments about HER size (she's nearly 6ft tall and stacked).
After nearly 20 years of marriage if she's juicing then she's hid it well LOL.
As for Serena AND LeBron? Not even true - about doping.
These threads recur here on CelticsBlog - especially about LeBron - every few months and each time it makes us (one of the most intelligent and diverse Blogs out there) - look SMALL.
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Same thing has been said about Serena Williams.
Kids at my wife's school have made comments about HER size (she's nearly 6ft tall and stacked).
After nearly 20 years of marriage if she's juicing then she's hid it well LOL.
As for Serena AND LeBron? Not even true - about doping.
These threads recur here on CelticsBlog - especially about LeBron - every few months and each time it makes us (one of the most intelligent and diverse Blogs out there) - look SMALL.
I'm not implicating Lebron when I say this - but are you saying you don't think there's any doping in the NBA? Or that we're unintelligent for bringing up the issue in general, or specifically about Lebron?
Unfortunately, in this day and age, I need a better anti-doping policy and a more open conversation about it to feel comfortable believing ANY league with this kind of money involved is truly clean.
EDIT: FWIW, I say this coming from a background as a runner, avid Track & Field fan, and one-time huge Lance Armstrong admirer. I can't imagine cheating in a sport, but people do it. It has happened time and time again - sports fans have been burned over and over - and it's certainly fair to demand athletes to submit to adequate testing.
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Same thing has been said about Serena Williams.
Kids at my wife's school have made comments about HER size (she's nearly 6ft tall and stacked).
After nearly 20 years of marriage if she's juicing then she's hid it well LOL.
As for Serena AND LeBron? Not even true - about doping.
These threads recur here on CelticsBlog - especially about LeBron - every few months and each time it makes us (one of the most intelligent and diverse Blogs out there) - look SMALL.
I'm not implicating Lebron when I say this - but are you saying you don't think there's any doping in the NBA? Or that we're unintelligent for bringing up the issue in general, or specifically about Lebron?
Unfortunately, in this day and age, I need a better anti-doping policy and a more open conversation about it to feel comfortable believing ANY league with this kind of money involved is truly clean.
I simply believe that LeBron James has been blessed with his size, gifts and skills - just like Shaq, Wilt, Kareem, Sir Charles, Karl Malone, etc, etc...
These players (and some others I'm sure I've left off unintentionally) were simply freaks of their time physically. Freaks to us, but gifted with their size and dimensions and they used this to their (and ours) benefit.
These players - including Lebron) also worked VERY hard to hone those skills.
LeBron has taken advantage of modern medicine and nutrition as well.
I don't believe LeBron James would even RISK doping - with his family (young boys), all of his charitable work, his image, etc, etc, etc - on the line.
Same with Serena.
As for the doping in the NBA? I don't believe there is. I don't believe they'd take that risk.
As for the Blog's intelligence? Off the charts - as I've observed us over the last 10-12 years or so. That doesn't exclude us (even me sometimes) of foolishness.
If LeBron James wore Green and White and had brought us Banners 18, 19 and 20 by now I'd never see a doping allegation about him, at least from US.
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Please, if Lance got away with it for so long surely with all the money LBJ makes for the NBA he will get away with it too. They aren't risking people finding out if he does. It doesn't matter what we think or don't, money is king. This isn't like football where you need about 50 capable players per team to be good, LBJ can carry a GLeague team to the finals, that's money hand over fist for the NBA and his/their sponsors.
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Too bad we don't have his hat sizes eh?
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I don't think it is coincidence that the NBA has both the highest level of sheer athleticism displayed and the most flaky PED testing policy in all of major sports.
That being said, I think just about everyone in the league is doing it, and guys like LeBron and Giannis are simply freak athletes regardless of what they are taking.
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You do NOT go from this to this with steroids and likely the ultimate steroid, HGH!!
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Same thing has been said about Serena Williams.
Kids at my wife's school have made comments about HER size (she's nearly 6ft tall and stacked).
After nearly 20 years of marriage if she's juicing then she's hid it well LOL.
As for Serena AND LeBron? Not even true - about doping.
These threads recur here on CelticsBlog - especially about LeBron - every few months and each time it makes us (one of the most intelligent and diverse Blogs out there) - look SMALL.
You have been married to Serena for 20 years? Does she know?
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Same thing has been said about Serena Williams.
Kids at my wife's school have made comments about HER size (she's nearly 6ft tall and stacked).
After nearly 20 years of marriage if she's juicing then she's hid it well LOL.
As for Serena AND LeBron? Not even true - about doping.
These threads recur here on CelticsBlog - especially about LeBron - every few months and each time it makes us (one of the most intelligent and diverse Blogs out there) - look SMALL.
You have been married to Serena for 20 years? Does she know?
lol I'd like to think that most of us got the point I was trying to make but thx for the laugh. :)
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Same thing has been said about Serena Williams.
Kids at my wife's school have made comments about HER size (she's nearly 6ft tall and stacked).
After nearly 20 years of marriage if she's juicing then she's hid it well LOL.
As for Serena AND LeBron? Not even true - about doping.
These threads recur here on CelticsBlog - especially about LeBron - every few months and each time it makes us (one of the most intelligent and diverse Blogs out there) - look SMALL.
You have been married to Serena for 20 years? Does she know?
lol I'd like to think that most of us got the point I was trying to make but thx for the laugh. :)
LOL, TP.
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A couple thoughts:
There are undoubtedly many, many guys in the NBA who use anabolic steroids or other PEDs. Look at Giannis. The kid is huge now. Given his frame and natural ectomorph metabolism/body type and the extreme caloric toll of an NBA training regimen , I mean, be realistic. But honestly, why should I or anybody care if these guys juice? I don't watch the NBA because I see myself in the athletes. I want to see freaks do freakish things.
Finally, say LeBron takes a pee test and is found to be a massive juicer (not unlikely). Does the NBA go public with the info? Think about it.
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I don't care, its not my business what another adult wants to put in their body.
If athletes want to use PED's good for them, it doesn't make the game any less entertaining.