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Title: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Beat LA on October 18, 2017, 12:38:51 AM
I know that we're all focused on Gordo's ankle at the moment, but there is, in fact, another game taking place right now between the new-look Rockets and the Warriors, so yeah.

Anyway:

Hayward's injury - horrific.

Not getting killed on the boards - encouraging.

Cleveland's defense - atrocious.

Marv Albert saying "Swaggy P" on national television?  Priceless :laugh:.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 18, 2017, 12:57:00 AM
Rockets are not looking like the superteam hyped them up to be so far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 18, 2017, 01:21:13 AM
Rockets on a run after Draymond left.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on October 18, 2017, 01:40:42 AM
Wow, Rockets spoiled Warriors' championship ceremony.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 18, 2017, 01:46:54 AM
This is going to be an interesting season. Imagine the nets suddenly make the playoffs
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 18, 2017, 09:49:51 AM
This is going to be an interesting season. Imagine the nets suddenly make the playoffs
I really don't want to.  That would mean the East is even worse than most people expect and the East playoffs would be really ugly. 

As it stands the NBA really has to be hoping that the Sixers make the playoffs.  They need some good storylines to get people to watch and that's probably not coming from Detroit or  Charlotte. if somehow a Bucks/Sixers matchup in the 1st round occurred, that would be perfect.     
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Who on October 18, 2017, 07:16:21 PM
Excited for Philly. Embiid, Simmons and Fultz. What a collection of top prospects.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on October 18, 2017, 07:29:41 PM
Excited for Philly. Embiid, Simmons and Fultz. What a collection of top prospects.
Can't get over Fultz's free throw motion.

I was really high on him pre draft, but I'm not sure if I was right to be
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 18, 2017, 07:44:30 PM
This is going to be an interesting season. Imagine the nets suddenly make the playoffs

Hope so.

Let those scoundrels in Cleveland (Jae, Zizic and Isaiah excluded) settle on some pick in the 20s  ;D  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: PhoSita on October 18, 2017, 08:41:50 PM
Philly will look great in some games, horrible in others.

Lots of variance w/ turnovers, defense, and shooting.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Who on October 18, 2017, 09:54:24 PM
Gosh, those T'Wolves jerseys are ugly!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Who on October 18, 2017, 10:01:36 PM
Spurs are so easy to watch. They move the ball so well. Multiple options for the passer.  Active cutters. Lots of shooters.

Rudy Gay looks good on offense. Not moving well laterally on defense though.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GratefulCs on October 18, 2017, 10:36:05 PM
Spurs are so easy to watch. They move the ball so well. Multiple options for the passer.  Active cutters. Lots of shooters.

Rudy Gay looks good on offense. Not moving well laterally on defense though.
did they end up giving aldridge the extention? or were they waiting to do it later?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticslove on October 18, 2017, 10:38:05 PM
Spurs are so easy to watch. They move the ball so well. Multiple options for the passer.  Active cutters. Lots of shooters.

Rudy Gay looks good on offense. Not moving well laterally on defense though.
did they end up giving aldridge the extention? or were they waiting to do it later?

already did
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2739030-report-lamarcus-aldridge-spurs-agree-to-3-year-72-million-contract-extension
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 19, 2017, 12:25:35 AM
Suns got destroyed.  Putting in their claim as the worst team in the league early. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on October 19, 2017, 01:13:54 AM
Excited for Philly. Embiid, Simmons and Fultz. What a collection of top prospects.
Can't get over Fultz's free throw motion.

I was really high on him pre draft, but I'm not sure if I was right to be

I literally just said this exact thing in another thread
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on October 19, 2017, 09:25:58 AM
Suns got demolished. Tyson Chandler Buy Out Watch in full effect.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: PhoSita on October 19, 2017, 07:47:45 PM
Did anybody else notice the Pacers attempted 102 shots and 32 free throws against the Nets last night?

How is that possible without overtime?  That's crazy.


Pacers had 8 players in double figures, 3 of whom had 20+.

Is it possible that the Pacers could be fun this year?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 19, 2017, 08:40:15 PM
Another guy injured on the Knicks.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Who on October 19, 2017, 09:02:14 PM
Did anybody else notice the Pacers attempted 102 shots and 32 free throws against the Nets last night?

How is that possible without overtime?  That's crazy.


Pacers had 8 players in double figures, 3 of whom had 20+.

Is it possible that the Pacers could be fun this year?

They have a sneaky good (or at least fun) team.

PG: D.Collison
SG: Oladipo
SF: Bogdanovic
PF: Thad Young
 C: Myles Turner

5 guys who can all shoot the ball with range.
4 guys who can handle and pass the ball.
Good quickness & athleticism.

Some decent bench players too in Corey Joseph, Lance Stephenson, TJ Leaf (who I like the look of) and Sabonis. I was happy Big Al didn't play. Instead they went with the younger more active big bodies of Sabonis and Leaf. I hope they continue to do that. I think those young guys are better than Big Al (sadly).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 19, 2017, 09:14:48 PM
We have the Bulls and the Suns looking worse than the Nets so far. We need Lakers to stunk it up too.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on October 19, 2017, 10:27:31 PM
OKC is gonna be really, really good this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on October 19, 2017, 10:34:40 PM
Hate admitting it, but I'm about to watch this Lakers game because of Lonzo Ball.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: D Dub on October 19, 2017, 10:43:06 PM
Hate admitting it, but I'm about to watch this Lakers game because of Lonzo Ball.
Me too, but at least it's because of the 30 yr old rookie for the Clips..   c'mon man Celtic pride!! Jk

That said, I do expect Milos to run circles around Lavar's boy.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on October 19, 2017, 10:51:40 PM
Sheesh Brandon Ingram is rail thin.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: D Dub on October 19, 2017, 10:54:30 PM
Milos!!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 19, 2017, 11:00:22 PM
Still not buying Ball as an elite talent. Just don't see it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 19, 2017, 11:04:13 PM
Sheesh Brandon Ingram is rail thin.

And they said he put on weight.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: The_Truth on October 19, 2017, 11:09:36 PM
Man gotta be honest. This Lakers team is fun to w.... :-X
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: keevsnick on October 19, 2017, 11:15:01 PM
Blake Griffin can still dunk.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: The_Truth on October 19, 2017, 11:17:00 PM
Nah... they are terrible actually...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Beat LA on October 19, 2017, 11:30:58 PM
At this point, the biggest story of the Lakers-Clippers game might just be that Andrew Bogut has managed to play 8 minutes without getting hurt, lol :laugh:.

Oh yeah, and this ::) -

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From the All-Lonzo, All-the-Time department, I'm told he had Subway for lunch and needed 23 tickets to the game. Immediately family only.

Ramona Shelburne, ESPN Senior Writer

Like, omg ::). The Daily Mail would be so proud ::) :laugh:.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 19, 2017, 11:33:24 PM
Just the first half, but so far Brown and Tatum >>>> Ingram and Ball.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GratefulCs on October 19, 2017, 11:35:05 PM
At this point, the biggest story of the Lakers-Clippers game might just be that Andrew Bogut has managed to play 8 minutes without getting hurt, lol :laugh:.

Oh yeah, and this ::) -

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From the All-Lonzo, All-the-Time department, I'm told he had Subway for lunch and needed 23 tickets to the game. Immediately family only.

Ramona Shelburne, ESPN Senior Writer

Like, omg ::). The Daily Mail would be so proud ::) :laugh:.
i don't think he knows what "immediate family" means..
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 19, 2017, 11:41:40 PM
I'm watching Lakers/Clippers. That pick is going to be gold. The Lakers play no defense and can't shoot. It's going to be a long season for them....
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 19, 2017, 11:55:30 PM
I see a lot of Rondo in Ball. They're both elite passers and rebounders with excellent court vision, but neither can play in the halfcourt set like they can the open court.

However, Ball isn't near the defender that Rondo was before his knee injury, and he can't get to the bucket like Rondo could. Ball is probably a bit better shooter, though not enough that it will ultimately matter.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 20, 2017, 12:07:39 AM
Why is Ingram posting up Jordan? LOL
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on October 20, 2017, 12:53:03 AM
The Lakers are so fun to watch.

By fun I mean I am enjoying them fail so much.  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Beat LA on October 20, 2017, 12:54:01 AM
At this point, the biggest story of the Lakers-Clippers game might just be that Andrew Bogut has managed to play 8 minutes without getting hurt, lol :laugh:.

Oh yeah, and this ::) -

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From the All-Lonzo, All-the-Time department, I'm told he had Subway for lunch and needed 23 tickets to the game. Immediately family only.

Ramona Shelburne, ESPN Senior Writer

Like, omg ::). The Daily Mail would be so proud ::) :laugh:.
i don't think he knows what "immediate family" means..

Lol, TP :laugh:. At least they didn't have to pay for the tickets, though.  I'd demand a refund if that was the case after this, umm, performance? :laugh: 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 20, 2017, 01:50:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMf-R3jWsAAVMhY?format=jpg)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 20, 2017, 02:15:01 AM
Why is there a Jaylen Brown pic here?  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 20, 2017, 02:29:31 AM
Lakers laked but Ball is such a great passer, he is probably going avg. a lot of rebounds too.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Who on October 20, 2017, 08:31:40 PM
Minnesota look good. A little unsure of how to run their offense with those three 20ppg threats and Teague at the point ... but a lot of firepower and some good role players.

Wiggins looks really good. More efficient in his actions offensively.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 20, 2017, 10:26:57 PM
Hmm, GS struggling to contain NO's size. Would love to see that first round matchup. While it would hurt our AD pursuit, I could see this NO team knocking off GS if Cousins and AD can figure out how to thrive together. They just have too much size for GS to handle.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 20, 2017, 10:59:56 PM
WOW! Nikola Vucevic with 41 points and 12 rebounds in 35 minutes (17-22 shooting).

But in a losing effort to the Brooklyn Nets.

If it weren't for his contract (about 12-13 M/Year) I would love him as a trade candidate or something involving the Disabled Player exception (if that was possible).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 20, 2017, 11:00:38 PM
So Lopez gets a flagrant on the similar play but Lebron gets away from it unpenalized?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 20, 2017, 11:02:09 PM
WOW! Nikola Vucevic with 41 points and 12 rebounds in 35 minutes (17-22 shooting).

But in a losing effort to the Brooklyn Nets.

If it weren't for his contract (about 12-13 M/Year) I would love him as a trade candidate or something involving the Disabled Player exception (if that was possible).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 20, 2017, 11:09:51 PM
Wow, The Refs in the lakers/Suns game are horrible. I've been watching for 5 minutes and at least a half dozen bad calls including Lopez dribble the ball on the out of bounds line and no ref was even looking at the ball.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on October 20, 2017, 11:14:08 PM
Wow, The Refs in the lakers/Suns game are horrible. I've been watching for 5 minutes and at least a half dozen bad calls including Lopez dribble the ball on the out of bounds line and no ref was even looking at the ball.

Yeah, I had to turn it off.  The Lakers and Suns are both terrible, and the refs seem to know it and mentally checked out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 20, 2017, 11:14:27 PM
Yeah, this Lakers pick is going to be golden. Giving up 73 points to the Suns in a half is... not good.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on October 21, 2017, 12:46:48 AM
Lonzo Ball is forrealz. 29/11/9...near triple double.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 21, 2017, 09:27:25 PM
Cavs frontcourt getting exposed by Vucevic.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 21, 2017, 09:49:41 PM
This Grizzlies team is absolutely giving it to the Warriors. I think they have a bit of a championship hangover going on.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 21, 2017, 10:02:52 PM
Superteams getting blown up today. Magic up by 25+ against the Cavs and  Utah up 17 against OKC.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2017, 10:06:04 PM
Superteams getting blown up today. Magic up by 25+ against the Cavs and  Utah up 17 against OKC.

GS also down 11 with 8 minutes to go against the Grizz.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 21, 2017, 10:28:03 PM
Curry and Durant got ejected!  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 21, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
Lol Curry and Durant both ejected in a losing effort to Memphis. Curry threw his mouthpiece and hit a ref, so he might be suspended, too, though I bet he gets the superstar treatment and no suspension.  ::)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2017, 10:28:45 PM
Ok, so we are now tied with the GSWs who lost last night, 1-2 just like the Celtics. At least we lost an all-star player and have a whole new roster of players that are learning a new system and each other's games, what's GS's excuse?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2017, 10:29:35 PM
Lol Curry and Durant both ejected in a losing effort to Memphis. Curry threw his mouthpiece and hit a ref, so he might be suspended, too, though I bet he gets the superstar treatment and no suspension.  ::)

What an idiot. He deserves a suspension for that. NBA champions showing a lack of class and sportsmanship after sucking to start the season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenCoffeeBean on October 21, 2017, 10:38:12 PM
The way Rudy Gobert plays is a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenCoffeeBean on October 21, 2017, 10:40:42 PM
I thought I would watch Kingís vs Nuggets to see all the young players. Itís some of the worst basketball Iíve ever watched. No fundamentals and no awareness. Weíre spoiled in Boston. It could be so, so, so, so, so, so much worse.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on October 21, 2017, 11:04:18 PM
Giannis is so good it isn't even fair. Milwaukee have maybe one other truly above average starter on that team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 21, 2017, 11:04:43 PM
Kevin Durant is such a BABY.

Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand.  ::)

SNAKE.

So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jambr380 on October 21, 2017, 11:08:57 PM
Kevin Durant is such a BABY.

Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand.  ::)

SNAKE.

So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?

Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 21, 2017, 11:13:08 PM
Kevin Durant is such a BABY.

Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand.  ::)

SNAKE.

So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?

Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.

Guy is still a loser.

Okay look, I'll admit, if he signed with Boston, I'd be biased and defend him here :laugh:

But from taking the easy route, to it being revealed he created fake accounts to defend himself, to this....  ::)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenCoffeeBean on October 21, 2017, 11:39:21 PM
Kevin Durant is such a BABY.

Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand.  ::)

SNAKE.

So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?

Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.

KD was the MVP of the finals. Don't try and re-invent the past.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on October 22, 2017, 12:02:03 AM
Blake looks really good so far this year.  Iím sure it helps a ton to start the year vs. the Lakers and Phoenix, but all the same, he looks as good as he has in years.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on October 22, 2017, 12:05:40 AM
Kevin Durant is such a BABY.

Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand.  ::)

SNAKE.

So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?

Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.

I think Lebron wouldve dropped 100 on you.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 22, 2017, 12:24:36 AM
Kevin Durant is such a BABY.

Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand.  ::)

SNAKE.

So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?

Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.

KD was the MVP of the finals. Don't try and re-invent the past.
lebron got robbed finals mvp. Lebrons stats were better
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 22, 2017, 12:25:58 AM
Blake looks really good so far this year.  Iím sure it helps a ton to start the year vs. the Lakers and Phoenix, but all the same, he looks as good as he has in years.

He looks healthier and there's no Chris Paul meaning the ball is in his hands a lot so Blake can get creative.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 22, 2017, 12:34:55 AM
Greek freak dropped 44/8/4 lol

Wonder if the refs helped
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on October 22, 2017, 12:51:07 AM
Greek freak dropped 44/8/4 lol

Wonder if the refs helped

Didnít see the entire game, but from what I did see, he earned it.  Utter dominance.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GratefulCs on October 22, 2017, 12:59:13 AM
Kevin Durant is such a BABY.

Guy gets ejected today (along with Curry), then points to Memphis fans mocking him for getting ejected and says "I got a ring" while pointing towards his hand.  ::)

SNAKE.

So is this guy now going to create 30 more fake Twitter accounts tonight?

Haha - really? GSW could have signed me over Durant last year and they still would have won the championship. He is still young enough where he doesn't think he is an end-of-the-line veteran chasing a ring. Obviously he adds to the team, but he left a fantastic OKC team because he was a perennial loser...apparently both literally and figuratively.

KD was the MVP of the finals. Don't try and re-invent the past.
lebron got robbed finals mvp. Lebrons stats were better
sure his stats were better

but it doesn't mean anything if you don't play defense
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 22, 2017, 01:01:32 AM
 In other news, Olynyk grabbed 9 rebounds against Myles Turner and  the Pacers  :o :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on October 22, 2017, 01:21:12 AM
Blake looks really good so far this year.  Iím sure it helps a ton to start the year vs. the Lakers and Phoenix, but all the same, he looks as good as he has in years.

I think the demise of Blake Griffin has been greatly exaggerated by the media.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 22, 2017, 01:23:37 AM
In other news, Olynyk grabbed 9 rebounds against Myles Turner and  the Pacers  :o :o

I don't believe that Turner played in that game...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on October 22, 2017, 04:19:13 PM
In other news, Olynyk grabbed 9 rebounds against Myles Turner and  the Pacers  :o :o

I don't believe that Turner played in that game...

No, he didn't.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on October 22, 2017, 04:20:25 PM
So Dedmon has now expanded his range to the 3pt line.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 22, 2017, 05:30:29 PM
Don't look now, but the Nets are about to pass us in the standings, doubling our win total thus far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 22, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
Don't look now, but the Nets are about to pass us in the standings, doubling our win total thus far.

And the Warriors!  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 22, 2017, 05:36:35 PM
Don't look now, but the Nets are about to pass us in the standings, doubling our win total thus far.

And the Warriors!  :laugh:

Yep! That pick we gave the Cavs would be around 28-30 if this would hold up for the whole season ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 22, 2017, 09:26:53 PM
Crazy finish in Minnesota-OKC.  After Minny leads most of the game Carmelo hits a 3 to take the lead with 4 seconds left, then with no timeouts Wiggins banks in a buzzer-beater to win. Fun game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 23, 2017, 01:14:48 AM
Crazy finish in Minnesota-OKC.  After Minny leads most of the game Carmelo hits a 3 to take the lead with 4 seconds left, then with no timeouts Wiggins banks in a buzzer-beater to win. Fun game.
final 5 minutes Carmelo had 3 pts and Paul george had 0. Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on October 23, 2017, 03:36:00 AM
Crazy finish in Minnesota-OKC.  After Minny leads most of the game Carmelo hits a 3 to take the lead with 4 seconds left, then with no timeouts Wiggins banks in a buzzer-beater to win. Fun game.
I liked the play Donovan drew up for that Melo shot.
It made Minny commit 2 defenders when WB drove to the basket on the side. WB made a good read, kicked it back and Melo got a nice look out of it. He has always been a great clutch shotmaker.
But Wiggy hit a prayer, nothing you can do about it. (except contest harder and not foul next time)

We could be looking at this years 4/5 West 1. round playoff matchup here and this is a nice appetizer.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 23, 2017, 07:52:08 PM
Man, Fultz doesn't even look at the rim unless he's right at the basket. He's laying off all kinds of pull-ups that he regularly took in college.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 23, 2017, 07:54:41 PM
Drummond really have a poor BBIQ.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on October 23, 2017, 08:29:49 PM
Man, Fultz doesn't even look at the rim unless he's right at the basket. He's laying off all kinds of pull-ups that he regularly took in college.

Its mental. He isn't even considering shooting it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 23, 2017, 08:42:41 PM
Hawks really gunning for that #1 pick ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on October 23, 2017, 09:17:57 PM
So Dedmon has now expanded his range to the 3pt line.

I honestly don't understand the obsession with getting big men with their main natural talents close to the basket, pulling them out of the key, and getting them to shoot threes.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 23, 2017, 09:23:11 PM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4. Sixers about to take down a godawful looking Pistons team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on October 23, 2017, 09:25:14 PM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2017, 09:26:10 PM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4. Sixers about to take down a godawful looking Pistons team.

AB ....going for 35 points ?  Save em AB !  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 23, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
Stanley Johnson still hasn't figure it out apparently.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 23, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.


The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on October 23, 2017, 09:54:29 PM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.

The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.

What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 23, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.

The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.

What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.

I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 23, 2017, 10:24:36 PM
Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team, like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now agains the Kings.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2017, 10:53:08 PM
Serge Ibaka 46 year old .
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: colincb on October 23, 2017, 10:54:51 PM
Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team, like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now agains the Kings.

PHX players are all hoping to be included in any Bledsoe trade. PHX vying with the NYK for #1 ClusterF front office.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on October 23, 2017, 11:44:17 PM
This Suns/Kings game is almost unwatchable.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on October 24, 2017, 02:20:37 AM
Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team, like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now agains the Kings.

PHX players are all hoping to be included in any Bledsoe trade. PHX vying with the NYK for #1 ClusterF front office.

The Bulls and Kings have something to say about that.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on October 24, 2017, 02:22:39 AM
Gia may very well win MVP.

Wowza!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on October 24, 2017, 03:06:59 AM
Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now against the Kings.
We (Euros) call it shock-therapy. It lasts for several games after the coach is suddenly fired. A tactic that is often used in team sports. I think it is so because its easier to fire one guy than to trade/sell contracts of some 15-20 guys.

One more aspect of this practice is that team pres./GM sends a signal that the coach was incompetent/"the rotten apple", not him and the weak talent that he picked/bought to produce results.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on October 24, 2017, 04:21:00 AM
Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now against the Kings.
We (Euros) call it shock-therapy. It lasts for several games after the coach is suddenly fired. A tactic that is often used in team sports. I think it is so because its easier to fire one guy than to trade/sell contracts of some 15-20 guys.

One more aspect of this practice is that team pres./GM sends a signal that the coach was incompetent/"the rotten apple", not him and the weak talent that he picked/bought to produce results.

It's p standard in the Euroleague. eg last year Pedoulakis resigned in mid-October from Panathinaikos' HC. I think it brings good short term results, but the long term benefits are debatable (unless the coach happens to be as bad as Pedoulakis, in which case you don't have to think about it twice).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on October 24, 2017, 05:14:02 AM
Whether its Bledsoe or Earl Watson being gone, or both, the Suns look like a whole new team like they have been let out of prison or something. They are balling right now against the Kings.
We (Euros) call it shock-therapy. It lasts for several games after the coach is suddenly fired. A tactic that is often used in team sports. I think it is so because its easier to fire one guy than to trade/sell contracts of some 15-20 guys.

One more aspect of this practice is that team pres./GM sends a signal that the coach was incompetent/"the rotten apple", not him and the weak talent that he picked/bought to produce results.
See it regularly here in Australia with the AFL, where players panic a bit when a coach gets fired and perform above their normal level in order to ensure their spot
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on October 24, 2017, 07:08:57 AM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.

The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.

What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.

I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer.  It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot.  ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA.  It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on October 24, 2017, 10:55:36 AM
This article on Kelly Oubre Jr had some good stuff.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/10/20/16506934/kelly-oubre-wizards-bench-depth

The Ringer also published an article on Fultz: less original, more of a summary of what has happened the last few months. Links to the fans tweets  was the part I liked the most.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/10/23/16518782/markelle-fultz-sixers-early-season-panic
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Moranis on October 24, 2017, 11:15:59 AM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.

The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.

What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.

I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer.  It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot.  ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA.  It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season.  Similar to the MVP in that regard.  And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards.  Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams.  Just the nature of the beast. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on October 24, 2017, 11:35:01 AM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.

The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.

What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.

I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer.  It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot.  ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA.  It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season.  Similar to the MVP in that regard.  And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards.  Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams.  Just the nature of the beast.

So youíre telling me that the MVP often goes to players with great stats on bad teams? 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on October 24, 2017, 11:38:42 AM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.

The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.

What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.

I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer.  It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot.  ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA.  It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season.  Similar to the MVP in that regard.  And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards.  Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams.  Just the nature of the beast.

So youíre telling me that the MVP often goes to players with great stats on bad teams?
No he didn't say that.  He said stats is the key factor in both awards, but lotto rookies are often on bad teams.  This is same thing I said.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on October 24, 2017, 11:48:31 AM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.

The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.

What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.

I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer.  It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot.  ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA.  It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season.  Similar to the MVP in that regard.  And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards.  Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams.  Just the nature of the beast.

So youíre telling me that the MVP often goes to players with great stats on bad teams?
No he didn't say that.  He said stats is the key factor in both awards, but lotto rookies are often on bad teams.  This is same thing I said.

Okay ó sounded to me like he was disagreeing with you.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: chilidawg on October 24, 2017, 12:40:54 PM
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.

The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.

What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.

I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer.  It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot.  ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA.  It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.

Is there a written description somewhere of what the ROY is supposed to be?  I've never thought of it as going to the "best potential", but rather to the rookie having the best season.  Are you just making this up?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on October 24, 2017, 01:04:25 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/c0fe9ced86174e24166533a1ffe9aa92.png)

https://twitter.com/cavs/status/922848905196339207

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 24, 2017, 08:25:15 PM
So the Cavaliers are locked into a tight one with the Bulls....  ???
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: eja117 on October 24, 2017, 10:13:35 PM
So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.

Is that what happened?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on October 24, 2017, 11:29:13 PM
So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.

Is that what happened?

Good for the LA pick...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on October 24, 2017, 11:29:49 PM
MRI for Anthony Davis....uh oh.

hope this is nothing, too many injuries

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21146539/anthony-davis-new-orleans-pelicans-injures-knee-game-vs-portland-trail-blazers (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21146539/anthony-davis-new-orleans-pelicans-injures-knee-game-vs-portland-trail-blazers)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 24, 2017, 11:32:55 PM
So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.

Is that what happened?

Jimmy Butler didn't play.  The Pacers also went 10/22 from three.  And Darren Collison had like 32 assists.

I think teams care a lot more about developing their system and cohesion early on, especially with new pieces.  CLE seemed to do that all season last year, and LBJ was open about it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on October 25, 2017, 04:36:08 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/dce9975034a0e88d37b71ead44f85ca6.png)

https://twitter.com/AdamReisinger/status/922998992685842432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fnba%2F
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 25, 2017, 07:09:37 AM
So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.

Is that what happened?

Jimmy Butler didn't play.  The Pacers also went 10/22 from three.  And Darren Collison had like 32 assists.

I think teams care a lot more about developing their system and cohesion early on, especially with new pieces.  CLE seemed to do that all season last year, and LBJ was open about it.
Towns and Wiggins are still continuing their poor defensive play.  If they can't play average defense, I'd expect the TWolves to fall short of expectations again. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: More Banners on October 25, 2017, 08:26:47 AM
So the Pacers are beating the TWolves 124-103 at Minny. Domantas Sabonis went 7 for 7 tonight presumably against KAT.

Is that what happened?

Jimmy Butler didn't play.  The Pacers also went 10/22 from three.  And Darren Collison had like 32 assists.

I think teams care a lot more about developing their system and cohesion early on, especially with new pieces.  CLE seemed to do that all season last year, and LBJ was open about it.
Towns and Wiggins are still continuing their poor defensive play.  If they can't play average defense, I'd expect the TWolves to fall short of expectations again.

If  they can't play D, Thibs is gonna blow a gasket.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 25, 2017, 01:02:14 PM
 Lauri Markkanen was really stroking the ball last night. He might be better than i thought he would be.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: PhoSita on October 25, 2017, 03:55:12 PM
Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.


Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.

Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 25, 2017, 04:29:04 PM
Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.


Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.

Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.

Whatís with your digs at Westbrook. They werenít really that good because they just werenít. The Thunder last year was terrible when Westbrook sat.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: PhoSita on October 25, 2017, 04:53:01 PM
Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.


Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.

Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.

Whatís with your digs at Westbrook. They werenít really that good because they just werenít. The Thunder last year was terrible when Westbrook sat.


Basketball is a team sport -- the best teams figure out how to maximize and integrate the skillsets of their players.

Last year, the Thunder were the Westbrook show.  Everything was geared toward him racking up counting stats and doing as much as possible.

It wasn't conducive to the development or success of any of his teammates, and I always thought it was incorrect that people criticized the talent around him instead of focusing on the way he was dominating everything.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 25, 2017, 06:21:24 PM
Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.


Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.

Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.

Whatís with your digs at Westbrook. They werenít really that good because they just werenít. The Thunder last year was terrible when Westbrook sat.


Basketball is a team sport -- the best teams figure out how to maximize and integrate the skillsets of their players.

Last year, the Thunder were the Westbrook show.  Everything was geared toward him racking up counting stats and doing as much as possible.

It wasn't conducive to the development or success of any of his teammates, and I always thought it was incorrect that people criticized the talent around him instead of focusing on the way he was dominating everything.


Sounds exactly like what I said about IT4. It didn't matter what the others guys did to help out, they just got carried on his shoulders in most people's eyes.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 25, 2017, 07:22:22 PM
Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.


Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.

Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.

Whatís with your digs at Westbrook. They werenít really that good because they just werenít. The Thunder last year was terrible when Westbrook sat.


Basketball is a team sport -- the best teams figure out how to maximize and integrate the skillsets of their players.

Last year, the Thunder were the Westbrook show.  Everything was geared toward him racking up counting stats and doing as much as possible.

It wasn't conducive to the development or success of any of his teammates, and I always thought it was incorrect that people criticized the talent around him instead of focusing on the way he was dominating everything.
Oladipo didn't set the world on fire in his 3 season with the Magic.  Four games into the season is way too early to draw conclusions.  The Pacers have played Nets, Blazers, Heat and TWolves (without Butler) who are rather weak defensive teams.   
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 25, 2017, 07:26:42 PM
Check out what Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis are doing so far this season.


Perhaps Westbrook wasn't the lone quality player on a team lacking in real talent last year.

Perhaps his teammates looked bad because *gasp* it's hard to shine when one guy has all the touches.

They both are starting out strong but that trade was still terrible.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 25, 2017, 07:49:59 PM
Why is D-lo not playing right now?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 25, 2017, 08:06:09 PM
Why is D-lo not playing right now?
Minor knee sprain.  He's day to day.   
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 25, 2017, 08:30:19 PM
Its disgusting to see LeBaby whine to the refs without getting T's.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 25, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
Its disgusting to see LeBaby whine to the refs without getting T's.

The one constant with NBA refs, babying 'Bron....
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tstorey_97 on October 25, 2017, 09:12:59 PM
Philly has Houston on the Rox w/1:07 left

World is upside down.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 25, 2017, 09:20:44 PM
Eric Gordon buzzer-beater 3 to take the Sixers down by 1!

Harden with some awful defense throughout but a huge block late then the assist to Gordon. Philly defended the play pretty well too.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 25, 2017, 09:22:50 PM
Philly has Houston on the Rox w/1:07 left

World is upside down.

Sixers blew it, like usual.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on October 25, 2017, 09:23:49 PM
Eric Gordon buzzer-beater 3 to take the Sixers down by 1!

Harden with some awful defense throughout but a huge block late then the assist to Gordon. Philly defended the play pretty well too.

I was not sure who to even root for in that game.  I want philly to win so that the lakers pick has a better chance to come to us.  I don't really like Harden so I am not excited about him winning anymore.  Philly look like they had that game in the bag...then they just stopped scoring.

Go Nets against the Cavs though!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 25, 2017, 09:28:32 PM
"Trust the Proc...."

Lol. I was watching the Cavs/Nets game and missed it, but so glad the Rockets came back and beat them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 25, 2017, 09:54:11 PM
Wow, Brooklyn is going to upset Cleveland!

I feel so dirty rooting for Brooklyn after 3+ years of always rooting for losses.  :P
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on October 25, 2017, 09:57:04 PM
Wow, Brooklyn is going to upset Cleveland!

I feel so dirty rooting for Cleveland after 3+ years of always rooting for losses.  :P

do you mean you feel dirty rooting for the Nets?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 25, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
Wow, Brooklyn is going to upset Cleveland!

I feel so dirty rooting for Cleveland after 3+ years of always rooting for losses.  :P

do you mean you feel dirty rooting for the Nets?

Oops lol Yep!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: eja117 on October 25, 2017, 10:00:57 PM
Clint Cappella just personally ate Philly
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 25, 2017, 10:03:35 PM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on October 25, 2017, 10:05:34 PM
Nets with the win against the Cavs.  Gotta love it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 25, 2017, 10:06:33 PM
Nets with the win against the Cavs.  Gotta love it.

Sean Marks has done a good job getting some talent on that Nets team without all those top 1st rounders.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 25, 2017, 10:08:21 PM
Cavs lost
Nets win

All we need is another L on the Laker's column and call it a day ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: eja117 on October 25, 2017, 10:08:40 PM
The T Wolves have definitely underachieved. And the Nets just beat the Cavs so there's that
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on October 25, 2017, 10:10:01 PM
Nets with the win against the Cavs.  Gotta love it.

Sean Marks has done a good job getting some talent on that Nets team without all those top 1st rounders.

Yeah I was impressed that they held on at the end of that game.  Absolutely no expectations on the Nets and they are playing like it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on October 25, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
double whammy for the Cavs. Probably same pain I felt when we lost to the Nets couple of years ago. Lose to anyone just not to the ones you want to suck badly.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on October 25, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
There you go! Down go the Cavs, to the Nets! They hurt their own asset all by themselves.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 25, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   

While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).

But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 25, 2017, 10:11:08 PM
Danny Ainge is smiling somewhere right about now
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 25, 2017, 10:17:04 PM
Time to watch John wall destroy ball
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: eja117 on October 25, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
Jordan Clarkson tends to do well against the Wiz and they have Brook Lopez now. I don't think this is a slam dunk for the Wiz by any means
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 25, 2017, 10:40:34 PM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   

While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).

But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable.  Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects.  Also Covington's success as an undrafted player. 

The Sixers were actually playing a top team.    They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets.  Their next game is against the Rockets too.  Don't see how they are overrated.  They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy.  The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season. 

If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players? 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: eja117 on October 25, 2017, 10:40:45 PM
Wow. No Eric Bledsoe. No problem. Maybe Mike James is the real deal
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 25, 2017, 11:13:13 PM
Those are some ugly, ugly Lakers jerseys.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 25, 2017, 11:13:32 PM
Mike Scott is a ball stopper.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 25, 2017, 11:17:19 PM
They're wearing the Minneapolis jersey

Meeks is playing like ray allen tonight against the terrible faker defense
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 25, 2017, 11:18:11 PM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   

While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).

But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable.  Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects.  Also Covington's success as an undrafted player. 

The Sixers were actually playing a top team.    They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets.  Their next game is against the Rockets too.  Don't see how they are overrated.  They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy.  The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season. 

If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?

Houston is overrated, especially without Paul. They looked like poo poo tonight.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on October 25, 2017, 11:32:53 PM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   

Tazz I feel like you are a lot smarter than not getting this. A team in our division (who we also swapped first round picks with) blew an 8 point lead in the final 63 seconds to a popular team with an MVP candidate missing 3 rotation players (on a buzzer beater no less) You are surprised there are more comments on that game than the timberwolves losing a game missing butler to an irrelevant team like the pistons? What game would you expect more comments on... you post too much here to not get this
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 26, 2017, 12:04:29 AM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   

Tazz I feel like you are a lot smarter than not getting this. A team in our division (who we also swapped first round picks with) blew an 8 point lead in the final 63 seconds to a popular team with an MVP candidate missing 3 rotation players (on a buzzer beater no less) You are surprised there are more comments on that game than the timberwolves losing a game missing butler to an irrelevant team like the pistons? What game would you expect more comments on... you post too much here to not get this
I didn't say I was surprised.  Just find the constant need some folks on here have to jump through hoops to the knock the Sixers rather silly and disproportionate.  Of course not being from the Boston area gives me a different perspective.  Phillies were my favorite baseball team growing up and while a Celtics fan I liked the Sixers of the 80s too.  My dislike of New York and Los Angeles teams was acquired not inherited. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 26, 2017, 12:06:47 AM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   

While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).

But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable.  Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects.  Also Covington's success as an undrafted player. 

The Sixers were actually playing a top team.    They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets.  Their next game is against the Rockets too.  Don't see how they are overrated.  They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy.  The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season. 

If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?

Houston is overrated, especially without Paul. They looked like poo poo tonight.
So Houston is overrated too.   Sounds like besides GSW and ourselves every team is overrated. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 26, 2017, 12:09:28 AM
Wow. No Eric Bledsoe. No problem. Maybe Mike James is the real deal

Also Jackson to the bench?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 26, 2017, 12:14:55 AM
Have The Lakers only played home games so far this year? Oh and one game against The Suns....
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 26, 2017, 12:18:05 AM
Do you think Mark Jackson has all those cliches written down or does he have them memorized?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 26, 2017, 12:22:15 AM
Wow. No Eric Bledsoe. No problem. Maybe Mike James is the real deal

Also Jackson to the bench?
A coaching change sometimes creates a positive change at least in the short term.  Shakes up the status quo.  Some "out of favor" players might have another chance to prove themselves. 

Bledsoe situation shows that the young teams need veteran leadership mantra is easier said than done.  There aren't many veterans that have the temperament to provide leadership to young players on a really bad team especially when those young players are taking your minutes. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 26, 2017, 12:45:40 AM
Wizards blowing their lead, ugh.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 12:48:19 AM
Rookie kuzma makes a huge mistake i think he traveled lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 12:55:54 AM
Lakers cheated. Lane violation in the free throw that beal missed
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 26, 2017, 12:56:48 AM
Lakers cheated. Lane violation in the free throw that beal missed

Beal have no business bricking it. It Lakers hit a 3, they're dead.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on October 26, 2017, 12:58:33 AM
Atleast if the Lakers do win, there will be a good soundbite by Lavar
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 01:04:27 AM
We're in OT. wiz up 2
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Bucketgetter on October 26, 2017, 01:10:32 AM
Lakers cheated. Lane violation in the free throw that beal missed
They never call lane violations anymore.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 01:10:45 AM
Kuzma offensive interference lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 01:11:25 AM
Lakers cheated. Lane violation in the free throw that beal missed
They never call lane violations anymore.
I get that but in a 2 pt game on a free throw? Kind of could throw the game 1 way or another especially since Randle got the rebound
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 01:17:38 AM
And wizards gave up and didn't even foul. Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 26, 2017, 01:18:06 AM
Scott Brooks is just an awful coach.  The Wizards looked terrible the entire 2nd half.  No ball movement.  No significant adjustments made.  And apparently they don't know how to foul with the game on the line.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 01:20:22 AM
Scott Brooks is just an awful coach.  The Wizards looked terrible the entire 2nd half.  No ball movement.  No significant adjustments made.  And apparently they don't know how to foul with the game on the line.
Yup. This game had the signs of terrible coaching on the wiz. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 26, 2017, 01:22:01 AM
Wizards chocked that away, hard!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CroCorvus on October 26, 2017, 01:24:36 AM
It's not just Brooks, it's players also. This Wizards team is full of crap, they play iso ball all the time, play with 6-7 men rotation and most of all, they seem so arogant like they won it all at least a three times in a row. OMG. I just watched the last quarter and ot, and I'm sick of basketball. God we are so spoiled with our team and Brad...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 01:26:01 AM
^ yup. Whenever I see that guy Oubre shoot a wide open 3, he bricks it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: kraidstar on October 26, 2017, 01:26:02 AM
Herculean effort by the Wiz to gag this game away. A couple awful missed calls by the refs too.

Makes me want to vomit.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GC003332 on October 26, 2017, 05:51:28 AM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   

While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).

But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable.  Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects.  Also Covington's success as an undrafted player. 

The Sixers were actually playing a top team.    They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets.  Their next game is against the Rockets too.  Don't see how they are overrated.  They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy.  The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season. 

If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?
I watched a replay of the Pistons game in full, it was their 3rd game in 4 nights but i got to say that the Wolves lacked any sense of urgency defensively , i know that it was without Butler , but it is almost as if Towns and Wiggins selfishness on the offensive end carries over to the team onto the defensive end. 3 or 4 ball reversals resulted in a tonne of wide open looks, I think they are dead last in the league in defensive field goal percentage now, early days i know but the signs aren't great on that end for them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 26, 2017, 08:40:16 AM
So several comments on the Sixers losing a 1 point game to the Rockets.  No shame in that.  Meanwhile crickets on the TWolves losing by 21 to the Pistons who the Sixers beat by 11 on Monday.   

While both teams are overrated, Minny is much more likeable than Philly, which I'm assuming is most of it (and the bandwagon Philly fans on here certainly don't help, though it's not as bad anymore without LarBrd33 constantly overrating them).

But also, Minny was without Butler, on the second night of a back to back, and in Detroit. That's a completely different context than Philly tonight.
Personally I find the Sixers more interesting and more likeable.  Much of that is Embiid but they have other players (Holmes, TLC, Korkmaz) I was interested in as draft prospects.  Also Covington's success as an undrafted player. 

The Sixers were actually playing a top team.    They are 1-4 but those losses are to Wizards, Celtics, Raptors and Rockets.  Their next game is against the Rockets too.  Don't see how they are overrated.  They are a fringe playoff team assuming Embiid stays healthy.  The TWolves on the other hand were talked about as 48 or more win team before this season and they were actually talked about as a playoff team before last season. 

If the TWolves without Butler lose by 23 to Indiana and 21 to Detroit, what does that say about Wiggins and Towns as impact players?

Houston is overrated, especially without Paul. They looked like poo poo tonight.
So Houston is overrated too.   Sounds like besides GSW and ourselves every team is overrated.

Nice straw man. But, yes, I think those three teams in particular are overrated, especially without Paul, which you conveniently didn't mention.

And, for your information, I thought the Celtics were underrated.  ;)

But keep on protecting your Sixers lovechild....on Celticsblog for whatever reason. #TTP
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 26, 2017, 10:53:58 PM
Sac town making cousins look useless. Sac 17, NO 4
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: matteo on October 27, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Sac town making cousins look useless. Sac 17, NO 4

WAS making him.....now he has 27/15/5 end of the 3rd
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Kuberski33 on October 27, 2017, 01:09:35 AM
Monster game by Boogie
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: matteo on October 27, 2017, 01:09:44 AM
Sac town making cousins look useless. Sac 17, NO 4

WAS making him.....now he has 27/15/5 end of the 3rd

make that 41/23/6
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on October 27, 2017, 01:10:42 AM
Sac town making cousins look useless. Sac 17, NO 4

WAS making him.....now he has 27/15/5 end of the 3rd

Ended up with a monstrous 41/23/6
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on October 27, 2017, 07:47:24 AM
Below is an analysis of the Bulls season so far.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/78vsq1/the_bulls_are_finally_playing_the_way_fred/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=nba

tl;dr They are playing at a faster pace and shooting lots of 3s, which is prolly what Hoiberg wanted all along.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 27, 2017, 06:36:36 PM
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/10/sixers-working-with-jahlil-okafor-to-find-suitable-trade.html

Okafor back on the trading block with both sides actively seeking a trade.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 27, 2017, 07:16:05 PM
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/10/sixers-working-with-jahlil-okafor-to-find-suitable-trade.html

Okafor back on the trading block with both sides actively seeking a trade.

I remember a time (summer of 2016) when people on here were advocating trading pick #3 (Jaylen) in a package for Okafor, with Smart thrown in as a "sweetener"  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 27, 2017, 07:20:34 PM
Can we get Okafor with the DPE? Give them a few seconds too.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 27, 2017, 08:07:00 PM
give m Yabu and Nader
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: PhoSita on October 27, 2017, 08:08:24 PM
The Magic looking really good, with DJ Augustin starting and Nikolva Vucevic putting up 25-10, is probably the most mystifying part of the start to this season.

And a bench of Shelvin Mack, Jon Simmons, Jon Isaac, Bismack Biyombo.


Nik Vucevic, speaking generally, is a weird player.  He's been a double double machine for years, and he's huge.  He has decent assists for a center.  He can shoot a little.  But he barely averages 50% from the field over most of his career, and he hardly ever gets to the free throw line.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 27, 2017, 08:11:18 PM
WOW Magic up 61-34 vs Spurs at halftime!  :o

If they hold on, Magic will start the season 4-1.

Might help us a bit in regards to Lakers pick too.

UPDATE: Apologies as @phosita already posted this just 2 minutes before I submitted this post. I wasn't aware.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 27, 2017, 08:25:01 PM
how in the hell are the mage playing so well?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on October 27, 2017, 08:56:28 PM
how in the hell are the mage playing so well?

Its Magic  ;)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 27, 2017, 09:11:03 PM
how in the hell are the mage playing so well?

Apparently, the answer is to NOT play Elfrid Payton.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: arctic 3.0 on October 27, 2017, 10:35:01 PM
how in the hell are the mage playing so well?

Its Magic  ;)

mage
māj
noun archaic literary
a magician or learned person.

Might explain why there playing so well...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 27, 2017, 10:46:44 PM
Wizards actually looking pretty dang good right now. Granted, it's when they go to their bench that they lose games.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on October 27, 2017, 11:07:29 PM
how in the hell are the mage playing so well?

Its Magic  ;)

mage
māj
noun archaic literary
a magician or learned person.

Might explain why there playing so well...

Eh you get me wrong. I was talking about how/why they were playing so well. Im a gamer so I pretty know what mage means  :)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 27, 2017, 11:30:54 PM
The Magic are surprising teams with some high energy play. The Spurs were without Kawhi Leonard but another good win by The Magic.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 27, 2017, 11:56:11 PM
Draymond and Bradley Beal get in a fight:

https://twitter.com/loganmmurdock/status/924118511332474881?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on October 28, 2017, 12:04:10 AM
Never seen the Warriors shoot so poorly from 3. Shooting 4/26 with Curry going 1/10 from 3. Pretty unreal. Wiz up 18 with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 28, 2017, 12:06:26 AM
Never seen the Warriors shoot so poorly from 3. Shooting 4/26 with Curry going 1/10 from 3. Pretty unreal. Wiz up 18 with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.

A lot of these early games this year still look like preseason games. A lot of really sloppy basketball.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Jon Niednagel on October 28, 2017, 12:07:44 AM
Haha ! Not much of a fight. More like a hugging match.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 28, 2017, 12:09:14 AM
Never seen the Warriors shoot so poorly from 3. Shooting 4/26 with Curry going 1/10 from 3. Pretty unreal. Wiz up 18 with 7 minutes left in the 3rd.

A lot of these early games this year still look like preseason games. A lot of really sloppy basketball.

There are always some weird results early on. But the Warriors have been just generally playing like they don't really respect the concept of a regular season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 28, 2017, 12:16:57 AM
Raptors better not choke like the Wizards.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on October 28, 2017, 12:40:14 AM
It's amazing how terrible the Wizards bench is with Beal out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 28, 2017, 12:43:49 AM
It's amazing how terrible the Wizards bench is with Beal out.

Or Wall, they're the same as last year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 28, 2017, 12:46:38 AM
It's amazing how terrible the Wizards bench is with Beal out.

Or Wall, they're the same as last year.

And some people actually thought they are better than the Celtics this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 28, 2017, 12:52:48 AM
Kelly Oubre is not a good Basketball player.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 28, 2017, 12:56:48 AM
Kelly Oubre is not a good Basketball player.

You mean the guy in Game 4 who got caught in a screen and got so mad he charged the ref and Olynyk and pushed them back full force? And the guy who, before Game 6, mocked Jaylen in pregame?

Wow... shocking....  ::)

No surprise he was a no-show in Game 7 lol.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 28, 2017, 12:58:44 AM
Wall is the opposite of clutch...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 28, 2017, 01:04:08 AM
Lol Wizards.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on October 28, 2017, 01:06:54 AM
When the Warriors shoot 26% from 3 and you still lose...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 28, 2017, 08:12:39 PM
Pelicans lead the Cavaliers 65-51 at halftime.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on October 28, 2017, 09:51:21 PM
E'tuan Moore was a good pick.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on October 29, 2017, 12:39:45 AM
Two overlooked stats for the season:

-Andre Drummond FT%: 72.2

-Victor Oladipo averaging 26 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.8 assists on 50% FG, 44.8 3P%, 88.6 FT%
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 29, 2017, 12:49:34 AM
Two overlooked stats for the season:

-Andre Drummond FT%: 72.2

-Victor Oladipo averaging 26 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.8 assists on 50% FG, 44.8 3P%, 88.6 FT%

With the way teams are performing over/under expectations, I'm not surprised to see some players doing the same. It has been a weird first couple weeks in this NBA season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Beat LA on October 29, 2017, 01:57:29 AM
E'tuan Moore was a good pick.

Gimme Gimme Moore, Gimme Moore, Gimme E'Twaun Moore :laugh:.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 29, 2017, 07:34:32 PM
Cavs struggling against the Knicks, of all teams. LOL
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Joyride on October 29, 2017, 08:33:17 PM
Cavs struggling against the Knicks, of all teams. LOL

You are all witnessing the demise of the Cavs as we know it, thanks to Danny with a little help from Kyrie. Donít be surprised if the Celts go to the finals with a DPE buy out add and Hayward coming off the bench.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 29, 2017, 08:36:34 PM
I'd wait until Thomas and Rose return before making any more assessments.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 29, 2017, 08:41:01 PM
I'd wait until Thomas and Rose return before making any more assessments.

Rose is already playing.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on October 29, 2017, 08:43:06 PM
Well, I'd wait for Thomas since he's replacing Kyrie.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 29, 2017, 08:43:17 PM
Wow, the Cavs look just out of it. It's embarrassing how bad they look right now.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on October 29, 2017, 08:44:39 PM
Well, I'd wait for Thomas since he's replacing Kyrie.

He'll only exacerbate their defensive problems, which is a big part of their issue.

But they are definitely missing Kyrie's offense and shooting out there. They can't even run any plays; it's all jumpshots and no attacking the rim. Without another iso guy, their offense just doesn't work and is subpar.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 29, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
Wow, the Cavs look just out of it. It's embarrassing how bad they look right now.

Yeah, and to a man they say they are not worried about it. Someone needs to speak up and lead that team. I wonder when they are going to start to worrying?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on October 29, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 29, 2017, 08:57:40 PM
Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?

Who said that? They need someone to step up and call out their p--- poor play.

Maybe a coach?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Joyride on October 29, 2017, 08:59:00 PM
Wow, the Cavs look just out of it. It's embarrassing how bad they look right now.

Yeah, and to a man they say they are not worried about it. Someone needs to speak up and lead that team. I wonder when they are going to start to worrying?

I wonder how long itís going to take Lebron to pack it in and start looking towards a move to the Lakers.  Eventually heís going to get frustrated and make more excuses.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on October 29, 2017, 08:59:39 PM
Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?

Who said that? They need someone to step up and call out their p--- poor play.

Maybe a coach?

Their sideline reporter said it. I'm watching the away feed so I didn't catch the name.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 29, 2017, 09:01:24 PM
Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?

Who said that? They need someone to step up and call out their p--- poor play.

Maybe a coach?

Their sideline reporter said it. I'm watching the away feed so I didn't catch the name.

Wow, that's a bad hot take there. Too many leaders? Yeah, that's always a problem! :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 29, 2017, 09:02:56 PM
They are going to have to play LeBron over 40 minutes tonight to try and come back over the Knicks.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on October 29, 2017, 09:10:05 PM
Cavs struggles are because they now have so many leaders on the team? Like come on what kind of excuse is that?

I think that's code for dead weight, Wade and Rose are finished and aren't aware of it (especially Rose). Their GM has some very hard decisions to make soon does he leave the roster the way it is and almost guarantee that James walks in the offseason or does he flip the Brooklyn pick for some help but if James still walks he has wasted their chance at a quick rebuild...the need a proper sit down with James and his agent.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on October 29, 2017, 09:10:36 PM
Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 29, 2017, 09:13:13 PM
Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.

That's the typical regular season Lebron. He's been coasting for years now. But he can't now that Kyrie is gone. Coast too much and they'll face the danger of missing the post season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 29, 2017, 09:15:10 PM
Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.

That's the typical regular season Lebron. He's been coasting for years now. But he can't now that Kyrie is gone. Coast too much and they'll face the danger of missing the post season.

He has been coasting but I can't see them missing the post season in the eastern conference...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 29, 2017, 09:16:38 PM
Way too much is being made of these early season games.  They're not much more meaningful than preseason games in the large scheme of things.  LeBron was open last season about being far more concerned with the team's development than wins in the regular season.  Worked out pretty well for the Cavs, and they still have the best player on the planet.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on October 29, 2017, 09:17:19 PM
Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.

That's the typical regular season Lebron. He's been coasting for years now. But he can't now that Kyrie is gone. Coast too much and they'll face the danger of missing the post season.

True. 16 points in 36 down double digits at home, you'd think he'd have some interest.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 29, 2017, 09:19:31 PM
Is Lebron injured? He's playing pretty passive.

That's the typical regular season Lebron. He's been coasting for years now. But he can't now that Kyrie is gone. Coast too much and they'll face the danger of missing the post season.

He has been coasting but I can't see them missing the post season in the eastern conference...

They won't, but they have to grind every game now with Lebron playing 40+ minutes. 4-8th seed is now a possibility with them if Lebron continues to coast. Their roster reminds me of 2014 Nets.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 29, 2017, 09:20:02 PM
Way too much is being made of these early season games.  They're not much more meaningful than preseason games in the large scheme of things.  LeBron was open last season about being far more concerned with the team's development than wins in the regular season.  Worked out pretty well for the Cavs, and they still have the best player on the planet.

They Have Jason Tatum on the CAVS? ;)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 29, 2017, 09:25:11 PM
Cavs got smoked and LeBron played 40 minutes, no good.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on October 29, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
Way too much is being made of these early season games.  They're not much more meaningful than preseason games in the large scheme of things.  LeBron was open last season about being far more concerned with the team's development than wins in the regular season.  Worked out pretty well for the Cavs, and they still have the best player on the planet.

Yeah, until the Cavs prove they canít turn it on in April, Iím going to believe they will. Iíve seen this story before.  I donít think the Cavs really care if they get the 8 seed, so long as theyíre in the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 29, 2017, 09:55:57 PM
Losing badly to the knicks. Are the cavs really our biggest threat in the east still? Wonder if a team like the wizards could beat this cavs team in 7
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on October 29, 2017, 10:04:57 PM
Losing badly to the knicks. Are the cavs really our biggest threat in the east still? Wonder if a team like the wizards could beat this cavs team in 7
Too soon to say.

They're playing like they don't care.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsQuestFor18 on October 29, 2017, 10:12:56 PM
Kyrie seeing the Cavaliers 3-4 record like....

(https://kingjamesgospel.com/files/2012/10/6628250.jpg)

(Insert photoshopped Celtics jersey)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: More Banners on October 29, 2017, 10:22:40 PM
Cavs got smoked and LeBron played 40 minutes, no good.

See this is the problem with the Cavs. I blame Lue. For a lot of things, but minutes management is one of them.

If you're really not too concerned about records and seeding, then keep Lebron at 28 and then there are minutes for Korver, JR, Wade, and Crowder at the wing too.  Why burn out the aging one for nothing?  Also since their problem is playing w/o LBJ on the floor, he needs to sit some for them to find a groove when he rests for real.

I hope Lue gives most of his checks to charity. He sure isn't worth them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 29, 2017, 10:31:12 PM
Cavs got punked good by Knicks

Thompson .....scores ONE point for Cavs .......?   Dude is hurt n their cap too much to score ONE point ?     Good job GM Lebron for paying him like he is Tim Duncan .

LeBron will be 34 next season and he run Irvin off .
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: eja117 on October 29, 2017, 10:46:53 PM
Domantas Sabonis went 9 for 9 today against the Spurs. He has gone 7 for 7 two other times this season.

He must've done some old school Soviet training with his father this summer.

And Hoosier Olapdipo is tied with LeBron and Durant for 5th in the league in scoring average

Who needs Paul George?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 29, 2017, 10:55:03 PM
2 straight quality win for the Pistons. They might be a good team and a possible playoff contender this season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on October 29, 2017, 10:56:25 PM
Warriors come up short somehow  :o :o

Durant: 28 points 71% from the field 43% from 3.
Thompson: 29 points 63% from the field 57% from 3.
Curry: 27 points 65% from the field 43% from 3.

Sheesh Pistons got a lot of contribution. Bradley leading the team with 23 points, but there were 5 players with 15+ points.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on October 30, 2017, 09:00:45 AM
I'm interested in Orlando. If someone here has watched their games, has something changed by comparison to last year?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on October 30, 2017, 09:22:30 AM
I'm interested in Orlando. If someone here has watched their games, has something changed by comparison to last year?

Just looking at stats, it appears that Evan Fournier, Nikola Vucevic, and most notably Aaron Gordon are making huge strides offensively. Fournier is leading the team in scoring at 22 ppg while Vucevic and Gordon are both 20-10 guys.

Jonathan Simmons off the bench is giving them some great minutes too 16ppg. Possible 6th man candidate?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on October 30, 2017, 09:51:02 AM
Unsustainable mid and long-range shooting. I watched some parts of games.

Vuch, Ross, Fournier and Payton all shoot better than 50% from 16-25 feet.
Teamwise they are hitting 44% of their 3's, with a lovely 12 makes per game.
Gordon & Simmons are especially unsustainably hot - 18/32 overall.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on October 30, 2017, 12:01:40 PM
Thank you CelticD and Androslav

Was wondering if Vogel made any changes but if this is mostly bcs they shoot at a high FG% it sounds much less exciting
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 30, 2017, 12:14:16 PM
The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.

So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.

Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: More Banners on October 30, 2017, 12:30:41 PM
The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.

So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.

Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)

Maybe IT could help their defense by trash talking his lazy teammates, e.g. "I'm 5 feet tall. What's your excuse?"
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on October 30, 2017, 12:32:53 PM
The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.

So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.

Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)

Maybe IT could help their defense by trash talking his lazy teammates, e.g. "I'm 5 feet tall. What's your excuse?"

Won't work on Lebron though. Lebron would have him traded  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ChillyWilly on October 30, 2017, 12:38:29 PM
I enjoy Clevelands early season struggles as much as the next person but let's get real these games don't mean a hell of a lot until after Christmas for a Lebron team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on October 30, 2017, 01:16:08 PM
I enjoy Clevelands early season struggles as much as the next person but let's get real these games don't mean a hell of a lot until after Christmas for a Lebron team.
that's cuz he had kyrie and prime wade to hold down the fort. Who does he have now? You act like all lebron teams will forever be good. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on October 30, 2017, 01:23:35 PM
The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.

So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.

Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)

"Cleveland Corpses" is a good name
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on October 30, 2017, 01:42:23 PM
I enjoy Clevelands early season struggles as much as the next person but let's get real these games don't mean a hell of a lot until after Christmas for a Lebron team.

This is the least talent Lebron has played with in probably 8 years. That can change some with IT if he is able to regain all-star form, but right now there isn't a single player on that team besides Lebron playing all-star form. Love is capable of it, but may even be injured.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on October 30, 2017, 11:22:16 PM
Warriors looks mortal now. But Clippers is really good so far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on October 31, 2017, 06:00:38 AM
Good Ol' Quincy, the guy with the most pronounced ape index in the league,
is shooting 3's now like there is no tomorrow.
http://stats.nba.com/player/203112/

http://www.ape-index.com/
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 31, 2017, 07:18:44 AM
The problem with Cleveland is that their defense looks really bad, and when Isaiah comes back, he definitely solves the scoring BUT is a big liability on defense.

So against good teams, CLE will have to put up like 120+ to beat a lot of the good teams.

Also I've noticed that the younger teams tend to just run over the "corpses" at Cleveland (Wade, Korver, etc.)

[/qoute]
Ya gotta think Love is not liking the Lebron experience right now.   Even if Lebron drops 40 ,  they still look like turd soup as a team
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on October 31, 2017, 07:25:52 AM
Warriors looks mortal now. But Clippers is really good so far.

Warriors didnít look very mortal last night.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on October 31, 2017, 08:19:21 AM
I enjoy Clevelands early season struggles as much as the next person but let's get real these games don't mean a hell of a lot until after Christmas for a Lebron team.

This is the least talent Lebron has played with in probably 8 years. That can change some with IT if he is able to regain all-star form, but right now there isn't a single player on that team besides Lebron playing all-star form. Love is capable of it, but may even be injured.
I have visited the future in my time machine and I have returned to tell you that Cleveland will not make the Finals this year.  For further information on the future you will have to pay.   8)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on October 31, 2017, 10:09:38 AM
I like seeing what other fanbases think of us, here's a Cavs fan on Kyrie.

>Having watched a few celtics games this year, maybe Kyrie was never the problem when it came to the absolute dearth of ball movement. He looks like a very willing passer and a capable playmaker under Stevens, and that's with notably less help than he had in Cleveland.
Seems like the problem has been, and still is, the complete lack of an offense. I do remember seeing some chatter about how Lue would discourage Kyrie from being a playmaker and try to convince him to iso more. I'm not blaming Lue specifically, but the team culture, which, admittedly, is something the coach has a say in.
I'm more and more inclined to believe Kyrie was literally driven out by the culture of coasting, not caring, not giving 100% effort, etc., rather than Kyrie just straight up having beef with LeBron.
 
>Not a single player who has come to the Cavs has shown any signs of development, whether that's young players (Liggins, Felder, etc.) or others like Shump, JR, TT etc. If anything, several have regressed. And this is a team that hasn't changed ALL that much. Yes, there's a lotta new faces, but there's a LOT of continuity too. LBJ, JR, Love, TT, Frye, Shump, etc.
In comparison, this completely revamped Boston team, with SEVERAL very young players (Tatum, Brown, Rozier) and several completely new faces (Kyrie, Baynes, Morris, etc.) looks like a well-organized, cohesive team, DESPITE losing 4 of 5 starters from last season, losing their BEST player to an absolute freak injury in the first 6 minutes of their season. And everyone's game seems to be developing, on both ends of the floor.>

The post goes on for a couple of paragraphs and it first appeared here https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/79sh29/thoughts_on_kyrie_to_boston/
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Fafnir on October 31, 2017, 10:15:08 AM
Warriors looks mortal now. But Clippers is really good so far.

Warriors didnít look very mortal last night.
Warriors look like the 2001 Lakers right now.

The Cavs look like they also think they are the 2001 Lakers right now.

Only one of them is right. Best case for the Cavs might be a 2010 Celtics type playoff run from a middling seed if they don't start getting better production from everyone other than LBJ/Love.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Fafnir on October 31, 2017, 10:17:54 AM
Also the more I see of the rest of the league the more convinced I am the C's defense is for real.

Embiid and Porzingis have looked very good every time I've watched 76ers/Knicks when they weren't playing the C's.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 01, 2017, 08:47:50 PM
Cavaliers down 92-85 at end of the 3rd vs.... The Pacers.  ???

Even when IT comes back, that Cavaliers defense is bad.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on November 01, 2017, 09:36:19 PM
Safe to say the Cavs' season is in jeopardy? LeBron demanding heads to be gone? Demanding a trade?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on November 01, 2017, 09:38:10 PM
Warriors looks mortal now. But Clippers is really good so far.

Warriors didnít look very mortal last night.
Warriors look like the 2001 Lakers right now.

The Cavs look like they also think they are the 2001 Lakers right now.

Only one of them is right. Best case for the Cavs might be a 2010 Celtics type playoff run from a middling seed if they don't start getting better production from everyone other than LBJ/Love.

They look like a 2013 Celtics playoff type team. Only LBJ and Love, and get ousted in the first-rounds...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: More Banners on November 01, 2017, 09:38:41 PM
Safe to say the Cavs' season is in jeopardy? LeBron demanding heads to be gone? Demanding a trade?

Planning his escape!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 01, 2017, 09:40:09 PM
Safe to say the Cavs' season is in jeopardy? LeBron demanding heads to be gone? Demanding a trade?

Planning his escape!

... To Boston!

Then we'll actually get the 8 championships he promised Miami  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 01, 2017, 10:17:34 PM
Cavaliers down 92-85 at end of the 3rd vs.... The Pacers.  ???

Even when IT comes back, that Cavaliers defense is bad.

IT4 going to drop 40 a game .....bring Lebron his 4 th ring.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 01, 2017, 10:22:51 PM
I like seeing what other fanbases think of us, here's a Cavs fan on Kyrie.

>Having watched a few celtics games this year, maybe Kyrie was never the problem when it came to the absolute dearth of ball movement. He looks like a very willing passer and a capable playmaker under Stevens, and that's with notably less help than he had in Cleveland.
Seems like the problem has been, and still is, the complete lack of an offense. I do remember seeing some chatter about how Lue would discourage Kyrie from being a playmaker and try to convince him to iso more. I'm not blaming Lue specifically, but the team culture, which, admittedly, is something the coach has a say in.
I'm more and more inclined to believe Kyrie was literally driven out by the culture of coasting, not caring, not giving 100% effort, etc., rather than Kyrie just straight up having beef with LeBron.
 
>Not a single player who has come to the Cavs has shown any signs of development, whether that's young players (Liggins, Felder, etc.) or others like Shump, JR, TT etc. If anything, several have regressed. And this is a team that hasn't changed ALL that much. Yes, there's a lotta new faces, but there's a LOT of continuity too. LBJ, JR, Love, TT, Frye, Shump, etc.
In comparison, this completely revamped Boston team, with SEVERAL very young players (Tatum, Brown, Rozier) and several completely new faces (Kyrie, Baynes, Morris, etc.) looks like a well-organized, cohesive team, DESPITE losing 4 of 5 starters from last season, losing their BEST player to an absolute freak injury in the first 6 minutes of their season. And everyone's game seems to be developing, on both ends of the floor.>

The post goes on for a couple of paragraphs and it first appeared here https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/79sh29/thoughts_on_kyrie_to_boston/


lue is no coach ...he is a flunky for Lebron....they had a real coach , Lebron ran him off .....studying plays hurt his large brain. and Lebron wants to play same non coached , no brain street ball he played in Miami .   Lebron and Wade are really not into playing for anybody .  .....but themselves .   Irving wanted a. normal TEAM .....Lebron pretends to play team ball.....by passing ...but he and Wade never read a play book .  They defy authority or structure , it will be no different if he leaves ...Lebron has to play for a nobody coach .....hes too good to be told how or when to play .  So basically he may have to stay in Cleveland where hey will let him have his yes man coach .   I wonder if Luke Walton wants to ruin his carrer . 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Joyride on November 01, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
Cavaliers down 92-85 at end of the 3rd vs.... The Pacers.  ???

Even when IT comes back, that Cavaliers defense is bad.

IT4 going to drop 40 a game .....bring Lebron his 4 th ring.

By the time IT comes back, the Cavs will be such a train wreck. IT will be playing for a contract, not Lebronís next ring.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 01, 2017, 10:44:10 PM
We need Dallas to win tonight to help get above lakers
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 02, 2017, 08:38:09 PM
No Kawhi, no problem. Spurs are manhandling the Warriors so far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 02, 2017, 08:40:53 PM
Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.

I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 02, 2017, 08:49:14 PM
No Kawhi, no problem. Spurs are manhandling the Warriors so far.

They always start out hot against them and then get rolled.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ChillyWilly on November 02, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.

I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.

Never was a fan of Kerr's
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 02, 2017, 09:39:48 PM
Kerr is overrated. How do you lose 3 games so early with that roster?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 02, 2017, 09:57:01 PM
Gasol with the matador defense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 02, 2017, 10:13:08 PM
Pau Gasol is hurting the Spurs. Especially on the defensive end.

Guy looks like he aged another 10 years this offseason..  :o

Only makes me even more surprised they gave him that 3/48M extension...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on November 02, 2017, 10:16:10 PM
Pau Gasol is hurting the Spurs. Especially on the defensive end.

Guy looks like he aged another 10 years this offseason..  :o

Only makes me even more surprised they gave him that 3/48M extension...

Yeah people saying the Aldridge deal was bad.....it has nothing on that Gasol deal.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 02, 2017, 10:19:09 PM
Pau Gasol is hurting the Spurs. Especially on the defensive end.

Guy looks like he aged another 10 years this offseason..  :o

Only makes me even more surprised they gave him that 3/48M extension...

Yeah people saying the Aldridge deal was bad.....it has nothing on that Gasol deal.

Yeah. Now that Aldridge is "doing his thing" and not trying to simply adapt to the Spurs system, he looks really good again, and should be the perfect #2 behind Kawhi when he comes back.

But Gasol just looks like a liability out there for the most part, and relying on him as the secondary/third option right now w/o Kawhi is proving to be a struggle, even for Pop.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 02, 2017, 10:20:47 PM
To be fair, Ginobili is just as bad (at least in this game)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 02, 2017, 10:21:42 PM
I will say, I know they are w/o Kawhi, but it seems like this is becoming the norm. Spurs get out to great start, then Warriors come back and you forget the Spurs even led by 10+ at one point  :P

UPDATE: LOL Popovich gets ejected with his 2nd technical. Gets a standing O. Can't really blame him to be honest.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 02, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
Our friend Turner helping us get that lottery pick ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: moiso on November 03, 2017, 12:00:31 AM
Pau Gasol is hurting the Spurs. Especially on the defensive end.

Guy looks like he aged another 10 years this offseason..  :o

Only makes me even more surprised they gave him that 3/48M extension...
He has looked very good in a reduced role the last two years in my eyes.  Had the highest plus/minus on the team tonight as well.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on November 03, 2017, 06:49:18 AM
Other than the C's, the top records in the East currently belong to Orlando, Detroit, Indy and Charlotte.  Who'da thunk?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on November 03, 2017, 07:13:02 AM
Other than the C's, the top records in the East currently belong to Orlando, Detroit, Indy and Charlotte.  Who'da thunk?
I like it so far, even if the trend doesn't stick for long, it looks lively and competitive.
I think that Wizards will make a run at one point, maybe even sooner than later. They have a knack of making consecutive wins at home. I expect it now; Cleveland, Road game @ Toronto, Dallas, Lakers, Atlanta, Sacramento.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on November 03, 2017, 07:37:18 AM
Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.

I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.

Never was a fan of Kerr's
I like Kerr, but you are right he did go over the line a bit. Also, he is a smart guy and knows where the line is better than we do.
One thing I am certain is that proclaiming him as the best or top 3 coach is premature. Many media members think of him as No1 or No2. I would like to see him coach the Pels or Kings, even a team such as Utah before making that assessment. It is easier to drive a car like all road AUDI A6 Quatro SW than a Yugo, everyone keeps forgetting that.
I bet Pop, CBS, Spoelstra, Carlisle, maybe even SVG and a couple more coaches wouldn't do worse. 2 titles in the 3 years.

In case someone doesn't know what a Yugo is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4UhS8cFTk
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 03, 2017, 08:00:16 AM
Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.

I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.

Never was a fan of Kerr's
I like Kerr, but you are right he did go over the line a bit. Also, he is a smart guy and knows where the line is better than we do.
One thing I am certain is that proclaiming him as the best or top 3 coach is premature. Many media members think so. I would like to see him coach the Pels or Kings, even a team such as Utah before making that assessment. It is easier to drive a car like all road AUDI A6 Quatro SW than a Yugo, everyone keeps forgetting that.
I bet Pop, CBS, Spoelstra, Carlisle, Maybe even SVG and maybe even a couple more coaches wouldn't do worse. 2 titles in the 3 years.

In case someone doesn't know what a Yugo is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4UhS8cFTk
Warriors did just fine with Walton running the show.  There are plenty of coaches that would do well with that much talent.  More of a personality question.  You want a coach that would subjugate their ego and just not rock the boat.  I'd put Rivers above Carlisle in that situation as an example. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on November 03, 2017, 08:12:32 AM
Anyone else find Kerr's sideline antics a bit distasteful? You can always make out him dropping the F bomb aimed at refs, and just now in San Antonio during an early first quarter blowout you can make out him on the sideline yelling "F you, MFers!" to the refs.

I mean, I know we're really spoiled with Brad's demeanor, but that seems to cross a line, especially on national TV.

Never was a fan of Kerr's
I like Kerr, but you are right he did go over the line a bit. Also, he is a smart guy and knows where the line is better than we do.
One thing I am certain is that proclaiming him as the best or top 3 coach is premature. Many media members think so. I would like to see him coach the Pels or Kings, even a team such as Utah before making that assessment. It is easier to drive a car like all road AUDI A6 Quatro SW than a Yugo, everyone keeps forgetting that.
I bet Pop, CBS, Spoelstra, Carlisle, Maybe even SVG and maybe even a couple more coaches wouldn't do worse. 2 titles in the 3 years.

In case someone doesn't know what a Yugo is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4UhS8cFTk
Warriors did just fine with Walton running the show.  There are plenty of coaches that would do well with that much talent.  More of a personality question.  You want a coach that would subjugate their ego and just not rock the boat.  I'd put Rivers above Carlisle in that situation as an example.
Well, if by 'not rock the boat' you mean 'rarely plays young players and as a result burns out his starters', then I agree.  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 03, 2017, 07:22:57 PM
0 defense whatsoever being played in this Cavs game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 03, 2017, 07:27:38 PM
0 defense whatsoever being played in this Cavs game.

you stole my thunder,  i came on to make he very same comment . 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 03, 2017, 07:29:57 PM
0 defense whatsoever being played in this Cavs game.

I honestly don't think they have the personnel to play .500 ball right now. This is like historically bad defense and Rose, Love, Wade and Korver don't even have the potential to play average D (Love probably used to, but he is even slower with a banged up knee). Thompson was their only slight defensive presence down low. Gortat is already 3-3 with 8 points in 7 minutes.

I am sure they will win some games outscoring people, but they really are not going to be knuckle down to get stops like they could in previous seasons when these guys were all younger (even Lebron)

BTW it goes without saying that the Wizard are playing terrible defense this game too. However, you can at least see the potential of them having plus defenders in Wall and Porter. I have no idea how good or bad Beal is on D.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 03, 2017, 07:33:49 PM
Both teams might legitimately hit 40 this first quarter... No interest in defense by either team lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on November 03, 2017, 07:34:46 PM
0 defense whatsoever being played in this Cavs game.

Cav's need to start making trades if they want to salvage their season. This isn't an overreaction given their squad and when Thomas comes back, their defence is going to get worse! They need to start flipping their assets for two way players or at least 3 and D guys...otherwise it's guaranteed James will walk.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 03, 2017, 07:38:21 PM
And Wizards are supposed to be the second best team in the east? LOL
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 03, 2017, 07:41:24 PM
Inthought the wizards played D .

This a joke ......Bron , with wide  open lanes to the rim,  free fast breaks ,  no one even putting a hand in his face as he shoots threes ....

I would be going wild as a coach. .....watching this all star nothing defense game.  Looks like an exhibition game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 03, 2017, 07:47:36 PM
So referees can rescind calls?   :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 03, 2017, 08:14:27 PM
And Wizards are supposed to be the second best team in the east? LOL

When I watch them play it just makes me even more happy to know CBS is in Boston. Team really gets by on like 80% talent. They aren't coached well and they play really lazy. Will never get where they want unless other teams are injured.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 03, 2017, 08:16:28 PM
74 to 66 at the half.

Cavs shooting something like 67%.

Just pitiful defense all around. Both teams just taking turns scoring on each other with minimal defensive effort.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 03, 2017, 08:18:10 PM
gonna give Lebron 60 points ...very little defense on him.   what a joke he is allowed to play ball like a fullback using his arm as a battering ram driving to rim.  NBA is a joke ....when it comes to this guy.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 03, 2017, 08:29:14 PM
74 to 66 at the half.

Cavs shooting something like 67%.

Just pitiful defense all around. Both teams just taking turns scoring on each other with minimal defensive effort.

I keep telling everyone that Wall is completely overrated on defense.  He gets a couple steals when he gambles, but he, along with the entire team, plays really soft defense.  Especially against the PnR.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 03, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
Yeah Wall, the Cavs clearly tanked to avoid your superior squad!

The same squad that let Kelly Olynyk crush you in the 4th quarter of a Game 7  :laugh: (where Wall himself had 0 points that quarter as well)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 03, 2017, 08:41:04 PM
Can't wait to see Mook clobber the crap out of Crowder. His lil brother Kief already did ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 03, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
Lol S-O-F-T!

That new ref has been atrocious all night long on both sides. What is with the league bringing in so many new refs this year? There's been at least half a dozen games I've watched with a new ref doing a real bang-up job
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on November 03, 2017, 08:42:24 PM
Morris picked up a flagrant foul on that last play.  That was a bad call.  Just a hard foul on Crowder...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 03, 2017, 08:44:06 PM
74 to 66 at the half.

Cavs shooting something like 67%.

Just pitiful defense all around. Both teams just taking turns scoring on each other with minimal defensive effort.

I keep telling everyone that Wall is completely overrated on defense.  He gets a couple steals when he gambles, but he, along with the entire team, plays really soft defense.  Especially against the PnR.

They don't even look like they're trying out there on defense. It literally reminds me of watching the Balls play at Chino Hills.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 03, 2017, 08:44:38 PM
Dislike both of these teams so can't really enjoy this either way.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on November 03, 2017, 08:45:36 PM
Dislike both of these teams so can't really enjoy this either way.

Me too, but it is more fun if the Cavs lose...haha
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 03, 2017, 08:50:34 PM
Morris picked up a flagrant foul on that last play.  That was a bad call.  Just a hard foul on Crowder...

I thought Crowder might have been hit in the groin.  If not, then yeah, it was.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on November 03, 2017, 08:52:53 PM
Morris picked up a flagrant foul on that last play.  That was a bad call.  Just a hard foul on Crowder...

I thought Crowder might have been hit in the groin.  If not, then yeah, it was.

It was just a hard swipe across the arm.  It seems like that things have gone downhill for the wiz since that point.  Down by 14 to the cavs now....cmon Wiz.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 03, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
74 to 66 at the half.

Cavs shooting something like 67%.

Just pitiful defense all around. Both teams just taking turns scoring on each other with minimal defensive effort.

I keep telling everyone that Wall is completely overrated on defense.  He gets a couple steals when he gambles, but he, along with the entire team, plays really soft defense.  Especially against the PnR.

They don't even look like they're trying out there on defense. It literally reminds me of watching the Balls play at Chino Hills.

Itís not just tonight.  Suns put up 107 in the final three quarters on Wednesday.  5 straight quarters going on 6 where the Wizards have given up at least 30 points.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 03, 2017, 08:56:33 PM
game over ...if thats what you want to call it.   

worst officiating ever.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 03, 2017, 09:00:06 PM
Wizards are bunch of whiny sissies. How about sticking to the play instead of constantly complaining for non-calls?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 03, 2017, 09:02:22 PM
My God the media is completely blowing this Kyrie quote out of proportion.

And, no, Jeff, Brad and Lue are completely different coaches. Lue is not anywhere considered an analytically-minded coach like someone like Brad, Snyder, Pop, etc.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 03, 2017, 09:15:11 PM
Don't mind Jeff Van gundy. He was such a terrible coach and doesn't have the minimal brain power needed  to decipher what kyrie meant. Van Gundy wouldn't know who  a good and smart coach is
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 03, 2017, 09:16:59 PM
Lebron can only play much with this intensity for the whole season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: bello_man09 on November 03, 2017, 09:25:11 PM
wade is completely done....
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 03, 2017, 09:28:21 PM
Wizards are overrated
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: bello_man09 on November 03, 2017, 09:28:39 PM
lerbon's fadeway is pretty [dang] good,
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 03, 2017, 09:29:35 PM
Wade with his flopping
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 03, 2017, 09:31:17 PM
Oubre have a pretty low BBIQ
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 03, 2017, 09:31:30 PM
Oubre have a pretty low BBIQ
yup
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 03, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 03, 2017, 09:36:07 PM
If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.

I mean, Lebron has been amazing tonight, no doubt. Unstoppable when his shot is on like this. But it's also taking a 50 point game from him in order for them to beat the Wiz. That's not really much of an endorsement for them this season, since he can't be expected to do this every night.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 03, 2017, 09:37:06 PM
If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.

Cavaliers desperately needed that from Lebron.

But Lebron won't go for 45+ points every single night. They need Isaiah back ASAP.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 03, 2017, 09:37:07 PM
If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.

I think every one on here has said Lebron is still a great player. However is it not telling about his supporting cast that he has 52 points and it has been a 8 point game for most of the quarter?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 03, 2017, 09:37:55 PM
If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.

Yeah but he can't keep dropping 40+ games for the whole season, especially against the cream of the crop teams.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 03, 2017, 09:38:52 PM
The Wizards and John Wall especially should feel bad.

All that talk and you let Cavaliers (w/o their 2nd best scorer) put up 125+ on you??

And Lebron at 54 points and counting LOL. Wizards are overrated.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 03, 2017, 09:40:31 PM
When you have the best player in the world on your team you'll always have a chance. Hence the problem with facing Cleveland. C's are the only team that will be able to dethrone him. Don't run to the West!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 03, 2017, 09:42:17 PM
If you think the Cavs are dead it doesn't take long for LeBron to remind you he has a say in that.

I think every one on here has said Lebron is still a great player. However is it not telling about his supporting cast that he has 52 points and it has been a 8 point game for most of the quarter?

True. And frankly Washington haven't looked that great so far this season.

Still early but they look overrated. Like a "middle of the pack" kind of team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 03, 2017, 09:42:48 PM
John Wall and clutch is like water and oil.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 03, 2017, 09:43:15 PM
Why exactly was Wall guarding Lebron for most of the 4th?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 03, 2017, 09:43:45 PM
Why exactly was Wall guarding Lebron for most of the 4th?

Because Scott Brooks coaches in Washington.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 03, 2017, 09:45:14 PM
Looks like Lebron was after Kyrie's record.

57 points. Tied for highest points in a single game for Cavaliers history I believe.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Denis998 on November 03, 2017, 09:46:19 PM
The one takeaway from the cavs game is that they needed every one of those 57 points from Lebron. Thats not a good thing
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 03, 2017, 09:46:27 PM
When you have the best player in the world on your team you'll always have a chance. Hence the problem with facing Cleveland. C's are the only team that will be able to dethrone him. Don't run to the West!

They still have glaring problems.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 03, 2017, 10:09:07 PM
The one takeaway from the cavs game is that they needed every one of those 57 points from Lebron. Thats not a good thing
If you're only doing one takeaway from the game, it would be that Lebron is still by a clear margin the best player in the league. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 03, 2017, 10:10:50 PM
Knicks win and are now 4-4 this season...  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 03, 2017, 10:17:01 PM
The one takeaway from the cavs game is that they needed every one of those 57 points from Lebron. Thats not a good thing
If you're only doing one takeaway from the game, it would be that Lebron is still by a clear margin the best player in the league.

The takeaway for me is that the Cavs still got a lot holes they need to fix.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 04, 2017, 12:35:52 AM
Wall was in a shoulder sling after the game.  Reportedly x-rays were negative but he was in significant pain.

The Wizards have no depth at the point (former Celtic D-leaguer Tim Frazier is the backup), so any time missed by Wall will lead to a lot of losses.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on November 04, 2017, 12:46:12 AM
Orlando loses at home by over 20 to the Bulls!  Maybe the magic aren't for real.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 04, 2017, 12:50:29 AM
Orlando loses at home by over 20 to the Bulls!  Maybe the magic aren't for real.

I think they're a good team, but ya some of their shooting percentages aren't gonna be sustainable throughout the course of the season.

They'll be lookin to bounce back vs. Boston though. I think it'd be another good test.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 04, 2017, 12:52:15 AM
Nets trying to give their Best celtics impression. Just can't get over the hump tho...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 04, 2017, 01:13:58 AM
Orlando loses at home by over 20 to the Bulls!  Maybe the magic aren't for real.

I think they're a good team, but ya some of their shooting percentages aren't gonna be sustainable throughout the course of the season.

They'll be lookin to bounce back vs. Boston though. I think it'd be another good test.
All this 3pt shooting puts a lot of variability into the league over short time frames.  The Magic are shooting 42.1% from 3 this year but only shot 32.8% last year.  Don't see where they made significant changes to justify that huge of a jump.  I expect they'll revert back to norm before too much longer. 

However Drummond shot 14 of 16 free throws tonight and is 28 of 36 overall so anything really is possible. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 04, 2017, 01:31:42 AM
Holy Moly!!!  I knew the Rockets were taking a lot of 3s but didn't realize how much.  45.1 3PA out of 83.6 FGA while shooting just 31.7%.  The next closest team is the Mavs at 33.2 3PA.  Way too much 3pt shooting as it is.  Hopefully no other teams follow the Rockets lead. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on November 04, 2017, 01:38:25 AM
Holy Moly!!!  I knew the Rockets were taking a lot of 3s but didn't realize how much.  45.1 3PA out of 83.6 FGA while shooting just 31.7%.  The next closest team is the Mavs at 33.2 3PA.  Way too much 3pt shooting as it is.  Hopefully no other teams follow the Rockets lead.

Morey is a smart guy but Pop showed him what happens to too much analytics...you get outsmarted by BBIQ. I honestly believe that Paul trade will be a failure as they will be defensively a sieve and their depth has been depleted.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 04, 2017, 01:46:51 AM
Wall was in a shoulder sling after the game.  Reportedly x-rays were negative but he was in significant pain.

The Wizards have no depth at the point (former Celtic D-leaguer Tim Frazier is the backup), so any time missed by Wall will lead to a lot of losses.

Wizards , are too small overall to deal with Lebron.   Only Gortat has real,size , he could not get near Lebron .   Nobody else even tried to muscle up on Bron......Obre and Porter , poked at the ball    Wall and Beal are too small and lightly built to deal with Bron .     That Wizards team has nobody to even foul Lebron .....they acted scared of him.   Nobody stepping in the lane to draw a foul or cut him off .  Brooks has serious seriousness us defensive issues on that team.   Theynare just twiggs for Lebron to crush.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on November 04, 2017, 01:58:10 AM
Wall was in a shoulder sling after the game.  Reportedly x-rays were negative but he was in significant pain.

The Wizards have no depth at the point (former Celtic D-leaguer Tim Frazier is the backup), so any time missed by Wall will lead to a lot of losses.

Wizards , are too small overall to deal with Lebron.   Only Gortat has real,size , he could not get near Lebron .   Nobody else even tried to muscle up on Bron......Obre and Porter , poked at the ball    Wall and Beal are too small and lightly built to deal with Bron .     That Wizards team has nobody to even foul Lebron .....they acted scared of him.   Nobody stepping in the lane to draw a foul or cut him off .  Brooks has serious seriousness us defensive issues on that team.   Theynare just twiggs for Lebron to crush.

Yeah, after last season, I actually expected more out of the Wiz this year (yes yes I know it is still really early).  Each time I have watched them they have somewhat underperformed.  I thought for sure they were a 2-4 seed in the east this year, now I am not so sure.  It will interesting to see how our games go with them this year.  That was a tough series with them last year, we barely escaped.  It feels like we would match up better with them this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 05, 2017, 04:30:32 PM
Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 05, 2017, 04:42:01 PM
Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.

They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 05, 2017, 04:47:04 PM
Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.

They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
It would be funny if they put Lebron on the market. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 05, 2017, 04:47:14 PM
Hmm, I wonder what excuse people will have for the Cavs after a loss to the 1-8 Hawks.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 05, 2017, 04:53:56 PM
Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.

They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
It would be funny if they put Lebron on the market.

I wonder how he'll react?  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 05, 2017, 04:57:30 PM
Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.

They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
It would be funny if they put Lebron on the market.

I wonder how he'll react?  ;D

By reminding everyone he has a no-trade clause.  As he already did this summer.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 05, 2017, 04:59:45 PM
Why would the Cavs want to trade their meal ticket? Watch what happens to that crowd if LeBron leaves next summer.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 05, 2017, 05:01:28 PM
Why would the Cavs want to trade their meal ticket? Watch what happens to that crowd if when LeBron leaves next summer.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 05, 2017, 05:01:58 PM
Wade is getting torched on defense. Even a game like today where he scored he isn't really helping. 91 points given up through 3 quarters to a glorified d league team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 05, 2017, 05:06:42 PM
Lue emptied the bench with 10 minutes left down 12. He must be disgusted
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 05, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
"Cavaliers trying to make a move" against the Hawks? lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 05, 2017, 05:10:40 PM
Lue emptied the bench with 10 minutes left down 12. He must be disgusted

Lue is the worst coach in the league. He should be disgusted with himself more than anyone else.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on November 05, 2017, 05:16:37 PM
LOL. LeBron is worthless from a trade perspective now too...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 05, 2017, 05:32:47 PM
Started watching at around the 7 min mark. just nothin but guards and forwards on the floor.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 05, 2017, 05:34:36 PM
40 minutes with Lebron again for the losing effort.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 05, 2017, 05:35:28 PM
Heat smoking the clipper. 89-82 and the clippers just went on a 18-0 scoring run
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 05, 2017, 05:35:55 PM
why does Lue even play Lebron 40+ minutes a game? all lebron is gonna do is pace himself. sit him for like 10-15 minutes a game and let him take over while he's in.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 05, 2017, 05:38:47 PM
Jr  smith 6 pts in 34 minutes.. ;D Kevin Love with 4 pts lol. These guys are terrible
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 05, 2017, 05:40:19 PM
He is at 40 minutes again tonight. At home against the hawks. Beginning of November. Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 05, 2017, 05:41:46 PM
CAVALIERS ABSOLUTELY CHOKE WHEN ATLANTA WAS BEGGING THEM TO TAKE THAT WIN AWAY FROM THEM! LOL
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 05, 2017, 05:42:51 PM
Cavs announcers should be embarrassed by the way they acted act the end there. It's the Hawks!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 05, 2017, 05:44:10 PM
Cavs announcers should be embarrassed by the way they acted act the end there. It's the Hawks!

What did they do? Had switched to football
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 05, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
wow, I was wrong, Cavs (Was) are worse than I thought. Hawks WANT to lose and you lose to them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 05, 2017, 05:44:51 PM
Cavs announcers should be embarrassed by the way they acted act the end there. It's the Hawks!

What did they do? Had switched to football

They were going crazy like it was a playoff game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 05, 2017, 05:45:22 PM
Cavs really struggling at home against Hawks. Down 10 in 3rd. Could still but man do they have serious issues.

They've wisely begun the tanking process pre-empting Lebron's departure.
It would be funny if they put Lebron on the market.

I wonder how he'll react?  ;D

By reminding everyone he has a no-trade clause.  As he already did this summer.
If things keep going like they are, he might just be sending a tweet from his wife's hair salon soon.    ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 05, 2017, 05:46:48 PM
It must be so annoying being a cavs fan in the regular season. ur best player could put away 80% of the league easily and yet he insists on not taking over against lowly teams.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 05, 2017, 05:48:11 PM
Heat blew like a 25 pt lead in 1.5 quarters. Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 05, 2017, 05:48:52 PM
Speakin of choke jobs, Miami is lettin the clips go on a 29-4 run..
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 05, 2017, 05:55:40 PM
Austin rivers stole the heat last possession then choked 2 free throw


The heat may have just won because of austin rivers inability to make a free throw
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Birdman on November 05, 2017, 06:00:40 PM
Atlanta beat Cleveland at Cavs home court? Hahahahaha
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 05, 2017, 06:04:45 PM
Dang, Austin Rivers better not say a word in that locker room.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 05, 2017, 06:05:35 PM
Dang, Austin Rivers better not say a word in that locker room.

He ruined Sunday dinner with the family! No dessert
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 05, 2017, 06:25:54 PM
Dang, Austin Rivers better not say a word in that locker room.

he should cuss the coach out good
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 05, 2017, 07:13:15 PM
Austin rivers shoots 65% from free throw. Why does he play in crunch time when free throws are crucial? Lol

Clips fans on another board:

ďNepotism cost us another winĒ

ďI honestly didn't want Doc fired because it would be messed up our chemistry during the season and might cause some chaos. This was the last straw. Amy other coach, disregarding Pop, Carlisle, Stevens, would have been fired after giving up a 3-1 lead to the Rockets. A coach that has terrible rotations, wasn't able to form a respectable bench for years, then the entire front office got revamped to get him a good bench and he still doesn't even use any of the bench, overplaying the players to the point that they themselves have even complained about it. It's not really a comeback if you still lose. And in this case the coach's son cost us the game. I don't care if he gets fired mid-season, Doc is an overrated coach who should've been fired years ago. Ok that's the end of my rant.Ē
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 05, 2017, 09:02:12 PM
Harden having a special game tonight.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on November 06, 2017, 12:59:18 AM
Timberwolves of to a great start. Also, that Northwest Division, is what soccer fans would call a group of death
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on November 06, 2017, 01:01:44 AM
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Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 06, 2017, 01:02:25 AM
A few guys had monster games tonight.  Several amazing players in this league.  I wonder what Lillard could do in a better environment.  Same for Zinger, actually.

Harden went off for 56 points, 13 ast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9H1_3Q3Gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9H1_3Q3Gw))

Porzingis had 40 pts, 8 rebs, and 6 blks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsBT7kihaTE&t=49s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsBT7kihaTE&t=49s)).

Lillard went off for 36 pts and 13 ast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olfm84UV0c8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olfm84UV0c8)).

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 07, 2017, 11:48:15 PM
OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on November 08, 2017, 12:25:32 AM
OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.

Blind freddy can see they should bring Melo off the bench. He would never accept that role though.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Monkhouse on November 08, 2017, 12:32:15 AM
OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.

Blind freddy can see they should bring Melo off the bench. He would never accept that role though.

SSS.

Gotta give Melo, Westbrook and George some time to figure and fix their chemistry woes.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on November 08, 2017, 01:01:13 AM
OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.

To me this is just more evidence Westbrook doesn't really know how to co-exist with other stars very well.

The easy target will be their terrible bench, though.  And while it's certainly a big factor, I think the issue runs much deeper than that.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 08, 2017, 01:30:23 AM
OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.

To me this is just more evidence Westbrook doesn't really know how to co-exist with other stars very well.

The easy target will be their terrible bench, though.  And while it's certainly a big factor, I think the issue runs much deeper than that.
No reason to blame their bench.  Their big 3 went 15-54 tonight.   
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on November 08, 2017, 01:30:30 AM
Where is the defense this year in the NBA? As a Vegas resident i have noticed the total points are up between 5 and 15 points every game. I got to credit Stevens for keeping the Celtics focus defensivly when nobody in the NBA is playing defense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on November 08, 2017, 01:33:27 AM
OKC down double figures to Sacramento. What a dud start for them. Top talent not meshing.

Blind freddy can see they should bring Melo off the bench. He would never accept that role though.

SSS.

Gotta give Melo, Westbrook and George some time to figure and fix their chemistry woes.

They could still figure it out.

I felt that getting George was a great move for them, but once they got Melo for depth I felt its a backwards move.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 08, 2017, 01:41:20 AM
Where is the defense this year in the NBA? As a Vegas resident i have noticed the total points are up between 5 and 15 points every game. I got to credit Stevens for keeping the Celtics focus defensivly when nobody in the NBA is playing defense.

Just a product of todayís league. Heard today that Houston averages shooting 45 three pointers a game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 08, 2017, 01:41:41 AM
Melo and Westbrook play terribly together. Both need the ball in their hands. Lol will be funny to see George leave after they miss the playoffs
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on November 09, 2017, 12:36:14 AM
Durant-less Warriors DECIMATING the Timberwolves. The 'ol splash brothers on fire.

Jimmy Butler sucks huh? 6pts 3rebs lol. Glad Ainge didn't trade for this guy.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 09, 2017, 10:59:29 PM
I have to always remind myself to stay away from general nba boards because the amount of envy and hate this franchise gets becomes tiresome. Just going to sit back and enjoy the ride back to banner 18.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slamtheking on November 09, 2017, 11:08:03 PM
Melo and Westbrook play terribly together. Both need the ball in their hands. Lol will be funny to see George leave after they miss the playoffs
only if he goes somewhere besides the Lakers.  would rather he stay put in that case
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 09, 2017, 11:57:10 PM
Rockets win 117-113.

Cavaliers defense is just flat out bad.

Isaiah will help them score when they return but unless Isaiah can play great defense, they'll have to score like 120+ every game to win vs. good teams...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on November 10, 2017, 12:16:36 AM
Melo and Westbrook play terribly together. Both need the ball in their hands. Lol will be funny to see George leave after they miss the playoffs
only if he goes somewhere besides the Lakers.  would rather he stay put in that case

I would actually like it if he went to LA but could only make them 8th seed playoff cannon fodder.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 10, 2017, 12:31:14 AM
Fox with a nice little game winner over Philly. Sacramento starting to put it together a little bit lately.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on November 10, 2017, 12:54:24 AM
I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 10, 2017, 02:21:42 AM
I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 10, 2017, 02:32:28 AM
I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy

But they lost.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 10, 2017, 02:39:54 AM
The Davis/cousins experiment is such a failure. Lol

Anyone remember all the hype when the trade happened?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 10, 2017, 03:11:35 AM
I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy

But they lost.
Those are his season averages.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on November 10, 2017, 04:17:52 AM
I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy

He, along with Westbrook, pads stats in a big way. When mental fortitude is required in big games and at the end of games, they are both found wanting.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RockinRyA on November 10, 2017, 05:29:25 AM
I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy

But they lost.

Is that all it comes down to? Basically if you're not the warriors you're a bad player?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on November 10, 2017, 06:14:02 AM
I finally got to sit and watch Boogie play today. He practically threw the game and his body language on both ends indicated seem so lackadaisical. As if he almost had no sense of pride.
Hes obviously got issues, but 29/14/6/2/2 is filthy

But they lost.

Is that all it comes down to? Basically if you're not the warriors you're a bad player?
No, it comes down to the point where selective picking of his raw stats blinds his guardians from realizing that his inefficiency, unreliability, mental letdowns, being out of shape every year after the initial 2 months of the season and the overall negative effect on his teammates, lower the ceiling of his teams to an unbearable point, after which his team implodes. Kings did that several times, NOLA will this year. 
I am not saying he will never win a playoffs series (still 0 playoff games played = Cbloggers), or maybe even win a chip, but if it happens it will be on a tail end of his career when he realizes there is not much more left to play, his reputation is at a low point and he is a 3rd big, scorer off the bench role. Meaning, he only plays if "the good DMC" is in the building.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 10, 2017, 07:06:01 AM
For me, the biggest mystery for us, is why we still play Nader and I am astounded when he comes off the bench ahead of other guys.   This has stopped somewhat recently.

Opponents have a 115.0 ORtg when Nader is in the game.  .566   eFG%, too.

Opponents have  97.1  ORtg and  .469 eFG% when Nader is  off the the court.

To place this is context we have a  -17.0 ORtg with him in the game and +12.3 ORtg with him out.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/naderab01/on-off/2018

I get the guy worked off his tail in the D league.   But those minutes need to be given to Semi so he can develop more.  6.9 more mpg to Semi.  I was not kidding when I called him "Lead-Killer" earlier in the season.

I think some of this could be fixed.   He leans over too much at the waist on D and therefore is off balance most of the time.   He should bend his knees more and waist less.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 10, 2017, 08:52:19 AM
Donít know why youíre concerned about Naderís PT.  He played a lot of minutes in the Bucks game, the day after we lost Hayward, and were just experimenting.  He played a lot of minutes in a 27 point blowout vs SAC.  Heís gotten 5 DNPs and most of his other minutes have been garbage time.  They tried to give him a few minutes vs. Atlanta since it was the second night of a back to back, and that didnít work, but he really doesnít play much at all in competitive games, once we got past those first couple games when Hayward and then also Smart were out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on November 10, 2017, 10:22:40 PM
If someone told me in September that going in to the second week of November that the Pistons, Knicks, Philly, Pacers, and Magic were all in playoff spots, and the Celts were on an 11-game winning streak atop the conference leaning heavily on 4 rookies....
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 10, 2017, 10:23:56 PM
Spurs game on tnt. Not many fans in arena
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on November 10, 2017, 10:39:48 PM
This season is interesting so far. Everybody expected a yawn until playoffs.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: TheLegendaryClub on November 10, 2017, 10:44:10 PM
This season is interesting so far. Everybody expected a yawn until playoffs.

This is the most fun start to the season in recent memory for me because it's been so unpredictable. Lots of teams winning unexpectedly, and the Cavs looking entirely mortal. I'm sure team records will start to regress to the mean by Christmas, but for now I'm absolutely loving it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on November 10, 2017, 10:47:54 PM
This season is interesting so far. Everybody expected a yawn until playoffs.

This is the most fun start to the season in recent memory for me because it's been so unpredictable. Lots of teams winning unexpectedly, and the Cavs looking entirely mortal. I'm sure team records will start to regress to the mean by Christmas, but for now I'm absolutely loving it.

Me too! I've never been as engaged in watching how other teams are doing. Watching the C's, always. The Lakers (and the Nets) because of the picks. The Cavs because of Crowder and Thomas.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 02:46:30 AM
After nets win tonight,

the Nets, Cavs, lakers all have the same record 5-7. Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: colincb on November 11, 2017, 03:38:03 AM
and the East is net +3 vs the West so far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 11, 2017, 10:19:22 AM
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Donít know why youíre concerned about Naderís PT.  He played a lot of minutes in the Bucks game, the day after we lost Hayward, and were just experimenting.  He played a lot of minutes in a 27 point blowout vs SAC.  Heís gotten 5 DNPs and most of his other minutes have been garbage time.  They tried to give him a few minutes vs. Atlanta since it was the second night of a back to back, and that didnít work, but he really doesnít play much at all in competitive games, once we got past those first couple games when Hayward and then also Smart were out.

Because we are a decidedly worse team with him on the floor and as we lose players to injury, it's important to notice and take head of little things because they will matter at some point this season.

I agree its a minor thing but the stats I posted are pretty [dang]ing.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 11, 2017, 10:48:11 AM
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Donít know why youíre concerned about Naderís PT.  He played a lot of minutes in the Bucks game, the day after we lost Hayward, and were just experimenting.  He played a lot of minutes in a 27 point blowout vs SAC.  Heís gotten 5 DNPs and most of his other minutes have been garbage time.  They tried to give him a few minutes vs. Atlanta since it was the second night of a back to back, and that didnít work, but he really doesnít play much at all in competitive games, once we got past those first couple games when Hayward and then also Smart were out.

Because we are a decidedly worse team with him on the floor and as we lose players to injury, it's important to notice and take head of little things because they will matter at some point this season.

I agree its a minor thing but the stats I posted are pretty [dang]ing.

I get heís not good.  I was saying that last year during his D-League success.  Iím just not going to be concerned about a rookie late 2nd-round pick who only gets minutes when there are multiple injuries or itís garbage time.  If Nader ever matters itís because so many other things have gone wrong.  We wonít lose a game because of Nader ó weíll lose because 4 players were injured.  Same is true of every teamsí 13-15th players.

My only complaint was that they signed him to a small amount of guaranteed money next year.  He should not be around for 2018-2019.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 11, 2017, 11:01:53 PM
Donovan Mitchell is really good. Jazz got themselves a steal in the kid.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on November 12, 2017, 01:33:49 AM
Donovan Mitchell is really good. Jazz got themselves a steal in the kid.

Its a pity that outside of him, they're probably the dullest NBA team to watch that has been assembled in the last decade.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: makaveli on November 12, 2017, 08:28:51 AM
What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.

My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.

Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.

IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: moiso on November 12, 2017, 09:43:02 AM
What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.

My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.

Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.

IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time
The scoring averages and totals will make him a Hall of Famer.  He deserves it based on the numbers.  But you are absolutely right that he makes teams worse and is selfish and lazy.  I'm certain he will still make the Hall of Fame though.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: More Banners on November 12, 2017, 09:48:33 AM
What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.

My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.

Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.

IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time
The scoring averages and totals will make him a Hall of Famer.  He deserves it based on the numbers.  But you are absolutely right that he makes teams worse and is selfish and lazy.  I'm certain he will still make the Hall of Fame though.

Yup. HOF easily. T-Mac made it. Melo will too.

 But it's easy to see now why George "snake in the grass" Karl was just tickled when he was traded away from Denver, even without getting a star player back.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on November 12, 2017, 01:20:03 PM
What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.

My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.

Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.

IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time

Melo is 10 times All Star, 6x all NBA, and scoring champion in 2012-13 . For comparison, Guy Rodgers who was inducted in 2014 was 4 times All Star and 2 times leader in assists.

Melo is a sure HOFer.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Fafnir on November 12, 2017, 09:06:29 PM
Its really a bummer to watch Dirk out there unable to move at all. Moving more like Bogut than any other NBA player I've seen this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: bopna on November 12, 2017, 09:12:20 PM
Its really a bummer to watch Dirk out there unable to move at all. Moving more like Bogut than any other NBA player I've seen this year.
Should have retired. What the heck is he trying to prove anyways. Assured HOF his jersey going up the rafters...his time is up.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 12, 2017, 09:14:20 PM
It wouldn't be so bad if he was on a better team
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: bopna on November 12, 2017, 09:17:18 PM
What is your general perception of Carmelo Anthony as a player for his entire carer?
I am having a constant argument with my brother about this topic and I would really like an outside opinion or a general perception of things.

My case is that obviously he's a remarkable offensive talent...and that's pretty much it. Plays below average defense, and makes nobody around him better to say at least. Now there are more than a couple of evidences to confirm that. I remember him going down, and Linsanity era started, with the Knicks winning like 10 straight games, he comes back, they are back in the .500 area.
The latest case is him leaving the Knicks and joining the OKC. The Knicks with only one really talented player and a bunch of scrubs have a 7-5 record, while a loaded OKC(5-7) squad is struggling to win games and lose to teams like the Kings.
Of course it is still a very young season, but the fact that Melo makes his teams worst is something that I was convinced of ever since he got traded to the Knicks.

Is he a future HOF(as my brother claims)?
What has he really done to deserve this honor, outside of scoring a bunch of points and making the All Star team, and okay, winning medals with the Team USA.

IMHO he is the most overrated player of all time

Melo is 10 times All Star, 6x all NBA, and scoring champion in 2012-13 . For comparison, Guy Rodgers who was inducted in 2014 was 4 times All Star and 2 times leader in assists.

Melo is a sure HOFer.
The question would be what team would retire his jersey?
I believe that apart from a surefire HOF career, players also want a team honoring them in some way like a jersey or number retirement...but for a journeyman allstar..who honors him?.  Denver might but its probably not a given since he didnt lead them anywhere close to the Finals...I also dont think NY aint gonna touch him.
He might end up like Ray Allen or Gary Payton..
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 12, 2017, 09:26:38 PM
Its really a bummer to watch Dirk out there unable to move at all. Moving more like Bogut than any other NBA player I've seen this year.

I wonder how aware he is of it.  I've always heard athletes say that they often don't realize that they've slowed down, or to what extent.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 12, 2017, 09:41:22 PM
Why is dirk still playing? Feel like heís just padding his career stat totals at this point
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 12, 2017, 09:44:09 PM
It wouldn't be so bad if he was on a better team

Wouldnít it? A better team would have to sit him.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 12, 2017, 09:45:01 PM
Why is dirk still playing? Feel like heís just padding his career stat totals at this point

Itís tough to walk away from something youíve been doing your entire life.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 12, 2017, 09:47:39 PM
Why is dirk still playing? Feel like heís just padding his career stat totals at this point

Itís tough to walk away from something youíve been doing your entire life.
mavs GM is partially to blame for even giving the guy a contract
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Fafnir on November 12, 2017, 10:20:38 PM
Why is dirk still playing? Feel like heís just padding his career stat totals at this point

Itís tough to walk away from something youíve been doing your entire life.
mavs GM is partially to blame for even giving the guy a contract
I mean they're tanking this year so it doesn't really matter.

I don't blame KG or Dirk or whomever for keeping going till they're ready to be done.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jambr380 on November 12, 2017, 10:29:30 PM
Why is dirk still playing? Feel like heís just padding his career stat totals at this point

Itís tough to walk away from something youíve been doing your entire life.

At least he would be winning - he would be getting solid praise in a 2008 PJ Brown role. With the Mavs basically tanking now, the end of his career is just sad. I guess the fact that he is sticking it out with the Mavs for his entire career is admirable, too.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 12, 2017, 10:32:41 PM
Why is dirk still playing? Feel like he’s just padding his career stat totals at this point

It’s tough to walk away from something you’ve been doing your entire life.
mavs GM is partially to blame for even giving the guy a contract
I mean they're tanking this year so it doesn't really matter.

I don't blame KG or Dirk or whomever for keeping going till they're ready to be done.

Marc Cuban should have sense of favor and release Dirk for either a chance to play on another contender or buy his contract out so he can finally rest while getting paid like the Spurs did on Duncan.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 13, 2017, 12:27:52 PM
The Celtics haven't lost a game since their 0-2 start to the season. According to Elias Sports Bureau research, their 12-game winning streak is tied with the 2006-07 Mavericks for the longest win streak immediately following an 0-2 or worse start to the season. That Mavericks team went on to win a franchise-best 67 games
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 13, 2017, 08:07:39 PM
I smell a Knicks/Cavs rivalry brewing after that Lebron statement on Ntilkina
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 13, 2017, 08:11:38 PM
I smell a Knicks/Cavs rivalry after that Lebron statement on Ntilkina

Lebron, is your career and your team really so low right now that you need to pick a fight with a backup rookie 19 year old?

That little thing where he intentionally chested up Frank was something Lance Stephenson would do to him. Its petty and small. Its pitiful that Lebron has to stay relevant by picking fights with bench players.

This was supposed to be the year he went for MVP, but instead its obvious he is hampered by nagging injuries. Its equally as obvious that his team is bad.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 13, 2017, 08:29:00 PM
Ntilkina may not have put up impressive stats, but the kid makes winning plays. He's like their own Smart in a sense and its rubbing off his teammates.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 13, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
Lol @ this Cavs team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 13, 2017, 08:42:49 PM
Lol @ this Cavs team.

Itís still early, of course, but if the Cavs keep playing like this until IT gets in the lineup, theyíre going to have to work very hard just to get homecourt in the first round of the playoffs, much less round 2.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on November 13, 2017, 08:47:30 PM
It's just fodder so people talk about something else.

We got all our guys back, mask and all. How far can the C's take this win streak?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 13, 2017, 08:50:40 PM
"Man, the Cavs are a dumpster fire."

- Sacramento Kings
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on November 13, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
I canít believe I picked this team to win the East lol if they keep this up after 20-30 games in to the season wholesale changes have to be made perhaps starting with Lueís resignation and Iím sure everyone not named James or Wade is on the trade block.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 13, 2017, 09:01:05 PM
They're guarding Porzingis with Crowder. I mean, I'm not sure that they have a better option other than Lebron, who you don't want getting into foul trouble on Porzingis, but there's literally like an 8-9 inch difference there.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 13, 2017, 09:02:50 PM
I canít believe I picked this team to win the East lol if they keep this up after 20-30 games in to the season wholesale changes have to be made perhaps starting with Lueís resignation and Iím sure everyone not named James or Wade is on the trade block.
if they play like this the whole season, they might not make the playoffs

I could see heat going on win streak like last year to squeeze in
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 13, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Hey guys, I found a gif of Cleveland's defense online!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IynvPneUpb7SnBe/giphy.gif)

It's an amazing concept. You actually have to play defense when you simply can't outscore your opponent anymore. Lebron better hope IT comes back at 100%, because they're not getting out of the East otherwise.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 13, 2017, 09:15:05 PM
IT should win MVP if he comes back to save this washed up Cavs team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on November 13, 2017, 09:26:40 PM
I can smell a Boogie Cousins for Porter Jr trade coming in January, Pelicans will be flailing at the bottom and Washington will smell Cavs blood in the water and with Cousins/Beal/Wall combo makes them automatically favourites.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 13, 2017, 09:33:58 PM
Idk how to feel if i was a teammate of lebron. im playing with someone who has the ability to take over games but he insists on passing it to me so i can keep bricking shots...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 13, 2017, 09:37:11 PM
And people think Lebron doesn't get a favorable whistle? Dude just straight bodied up Porzingis on a shot with no call from the refs.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 13, 2017, 09:42:03 PM
Holy hell, then Lebron blatantly goes up and down for a travel and no call! lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 13, 2017, 09:52:25 PM
Porzingis choking eh?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 13, 2017, 09:52:35 PM
Porzingis choking at the free throw line. Classic Knicks lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 13, 2017, 09:54:42 PM
Dang epic choke job
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 13, 2017, 09:56:13 PM
Knicks , what pathetic defense.

So the cavs still playing the same

coast for 3 quarters and win the 4 th

won't work at GS.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 13, 2017, 09:57:25 PM
Knicks , what patheic defense.

So the cavs still playing the same

coast for 3 quarters and win the 4 th

own't work at GS.

Or us. They got lucky the Celtics lost their focus in the season opener.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 13, 2017, 10:00:37 PM
Wow, Porzingis has dang near single-handedly lost the Knicks this game. Wasn't boxing out there and allowed Wade to get the rebound, which is in addition to the three missed free throws in crunch time.

That can't happen if he wants to be the "man" in New York City.

EDIT: Lol and Porzingis missed yet another rebound there on the two missed free throws... at 7'3" tall. Seemed pretty lazy tonight.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: csfansince60s on November 13, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Wow, Porzingis has dang near single-handedly lost the Knicks this game. Wasn't boxing out there and allowed Wade to get the rebound, which is in addition to the three missed free throws in crunch time.

That can't happen if he wants to be the "man" in New York City.

EDIT: Lol and Porzingis missed yet another rebound there on the two missed free throws... at 7'3" tall. Seemed pretty lazy tonight.

He's in the wrong "system"/on the wrong team.

Love to see what CBS could do for him.

 Forty Three points in the fourth quarter.....they deserve to lose.  Just wish it wasn't to Bron Bron.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: BringToughnessBack on November 14, 2017, 01:13:32 AM
Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.

Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid

Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals

Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball😁
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 14, 2017, 01:38:56 AM
Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.

Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid

Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals

Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball😁
Best part.  Embiid played 36 minutes. 

Covington has been playing really well.  Be interesting to see if that affects his renegotiation and extension. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on November 14, 2017, 02:27:19 AM
Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.

Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid

Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals

Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball
Best part.  Embiid played 36 minutes. 

Covington has been playing really well.  Be interesting to see if that affects his renegotiation and extension.
Clips missing a lot of firepower now. Gallo, Teo, and Pat Beverly,
Those are theirs best shooter, best passer and best perimeter defender - 2,5 starters
But those guys history suggests they are expected to miss some games too.

Is Gallo the least good big buck free agent signing (+20 mils $) from this summer so far?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: kraidstar on November 14, 2017, 03:41:28 AM
Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.

Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid

Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals

Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball
Best part.  Embiid played 36 minutes. 

Covington has been playing really well.  Be interesting to see if that affects his renegotiation and extension.
Clips missing a lot of firepower now. Gallo, Teo, and Pat Beverly,
Those are theirs best shooter, best passer and best perimeter defender - 2,5 starters
But those guys history suggests they are expected to miss some games too.

Is Gallo the least good big buck free agent signing (+20 mils $) from this summer so far?
Yeah, that Gallo signing was risky for sure.

I'd say George Hill is a close second at 3 years/$57M. He was supposed to stabilize that young Sacramento team, but instead his defense has tailed off and his eFG% is 8 points lower than his career average - and he's just a few months away from being 32. Right now his contract looks near-untradeable.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on November 14, 2017, 04:05:09 AM
Embiid and Simmons schooled clips in LA.

Jordan put up some horrible numbers vs Embiid

Embiid a plus 23, 32 pts, 16 rebounds
Simmons, 22 and 12 boards
Covington 31 and 6 with 4 steals

Poor Doc, I wont mention how bad his son shot the ball
Best part.  Embiid played 36 minutes. 

Covington has been playing really well.  Be interesting to see if that affects his renegotiation and extension.
Clips missing a lot of firepower now. Gallo, Teo, and Pat Beverly,
Those are theirs best shooter, best passer and best perimeter defender - 2,5 starters
But those guys history suggests they are expected to miss some games too.

Is Gallo the least good big buck free agent signing (+20 mils $) from this summer so far?
Yeah, that Gallo signing was risky for sure.

I'd say George Hill is a close second at 3 years/$57M. He was supposed to stabilize that young Sacramento team, but instead, his defense has tailed off and his eFG% is 8 points lower than his career average - and he's just a few months away from being 32. Right now his contract looks near-untradeable.
G. Hill is right up there. He was signed in a 2 fold manner
1. We give you the big contract, you teach Fox how to be a starter.
2. We trade you to a playoff team when we think he can take over the job/get a good offer once someone gets injured/we just tank blatantly

It is still early to bury the hope, but:

Remember this:
"Utah was limited to offering Hill -- who is making $8 million in the final season of his contract -- the rest of its cap space this season and an extension of three years with annual raises of 7.5 percent. Therefore, the best offer Utah could make Hill was for $88.3 million to be committed to the Jazz through the 2019-20 season, which computes to a three-year, $74.7 million extension plus the $13.6 million of available cap space this season."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18789802/george-hill-utah-jazz-discussing-last-minute-contract-extension

Now that would be truly scary for all sides except Hill, as it is an even worse deal (for the Jazz) and it had some Gordon Hayward (resigning) connotations.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 15, 2017, 12:39:21 AM
RAptors and spurs won

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/3b5ba16f82ae93fd6f8872d695b68313/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on November 15, 2017, 08:02:20 AM
ďI think the pressure gets pretty high,Ē said a rival team executive. ďIf itís not working, they should either move the [Nets] pick or Love or LeBron. Those should all be on the table.Ē

http://hoopshype.com/rumor/1146648/

OK, some team should seek an upgrade over this executive just for not knowing that LBJ has a no-trade clause. No wonder why some teams can't make playoffs for decades.
There are like 2 of those in the whole league (LBJ and Dirk)
Melo lost his after the trade to OKC, right? 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 15, 2017, 09:17:15 PM
I'm really liking this Charlotte lineup with Nicolas Batum in it. The floor is more open, and they get a secondary playmaker.

I wonder if they there's a move there that they can do and get a better shooting SG instead of playing Michael Kidd-Gilchrist in with the Kemba - Howard - Williams - Batum lineup? If they can get that 3 and D wing, that would just make the Dwight Howard/Kemba Walker pick and roll all the more deadly. Bring MKG off the bench to add some defensive intensity there.

But I don't know if there's a player there they can acquire.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 15, 2017, 09:44:53 PM
Lebron with 4 fouls and Hornets couldn't capitalize.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 15, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
Charlotte bench is a joke
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 15, 2017, 09:52:03 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 15, 2017, 10:03:28 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\
I find Tommy unbearable.  When he complains about foul calls, its basically a coin flip whether he's right. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tstorey_97 on November 15, 2017, 10:05:40 PM
Bradley 5-9 from three and 23 for Pistons

Bledsoe Bux on top though in 4th.

Deeetroit is hot like C's..10-3
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 15, 2017, 10:06:23 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\
I find Tommy unbearable.  When he complains about foul calls, its basically a coin flip whether he's right.

Not a fan of Tommy either, but I can stand him because he's biased toward my team.

I completely understand why fans of other teams would hate watching our broadcast team, though Gorman is definitely one of the best play-by-play guys in the business.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Beat LA on November 15, 2017, 10:31:48 PM
And Kris Dunn had been playing so well.  Sigh.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 15, 2017, 10:39:29 PM
And Kris Dunn had been playing so well.  Sigh.

Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 15, 2017, 10:45:47 PM
And Kris Dunn had been playing so well.  Sigh.

Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
The only reason why people wanted Dunn is to trade him for Jimmy Butler or Noel.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Beat LA on November 15, 2017, 10:46:41 PM
And Kris Dunn had been playing so well.  Sigh.

Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.

I was one of those people, but prior to tonight he had actually looked like a completely different player, scoring in double figures in 5 of his first 7 contests as opposed to last year when he only did so 7 times over 78 games.  How is that not improvement?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 15, 2017, 11:04:47 PM
And Kris Dunn had been playing so well.  Sigh.

Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.

I was one of those people, but prior to tonight he had actually looked like a completely different player, scoring in double figures in 5 of his first 7 contests as opposed to last year when he only did so 7 times over 78 games.  How is that not improvement?

Putting up more numbers from more playing time on a bad team doesn't mean improved play. He has not improved on any aspects of his game at all.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 15, 2017, 11:05:40 PM
And Kris Dunn had been playing so well.  Sigh.

Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
The only reason why people wanted Dunn is to trade him for Jimmy Butler or Noel.

Which would have been a very bad decision in retrospect.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Beat LA on November 15, 2017, 11:19:02 PM
And Kris Dunn had been playing so well.  Sigh.

Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.

I was one of those people, but prior to tonight he had actually looked like a completely different player, scoring in double figures in 5 of his first 7 contests as opposed to last year when he only did so 7 times over 78 games.  How is that not improvement?

Putting up more numbers from more playing time on a bad team doesn't mean improved play. He has not improved on any aspects of his game at all.

So upping his fg% from .377 last year to .429 coming into tonight doesn't count as improvement?  Seriously?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 15, 2017, 11:41:36 PM
Brook Lopez is a terrible 3 pt shooter. Wide open and bricked
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 15, 2017, 11:45:01 PM
Brook Lopez is a terrible 3 pt shooter. Wide open and bricked
He's shooting 35% so he is not a terrible 3pt shooter.  If he is, what does that make Smart? 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 16, 2017, 12:18:58 AM
Brook Lopez is a terrible 3 pt shooter. Wide open and bricked
He's shooting 35% so he is not a terrible 3pt shooter.  If he is, what does that make Smart?
true


Those laker uniforms are hideous , theyíre wearing those minepolis throwbacks
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on November 16, 2017, 12:50:25 AM
Watching Embiid dominate Randal is so great.  Convert that pick!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: HomerSapien on November 16, 2017, 12:55:09 AM
Watching Embiid dominate Randal is so great.  Convert that pick!
Randle is going to have nightmares tonight about the abuse Embiid is subjecting him to.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on November 16, 2017, 01:21:37 AM
Watching Embiid dominate Randal is so great.  Convert that pick!
Randle is going to have nightmares tonight about the abuse Embiid is subjecting him to.
Randle smiled in the 4qtr like that meant nothing. Not a good sign when guys are trying to hide failures by smiles. (Many of us do use that defensive mechanism, but it is not aesthetically pleasing)
He needs to find the 3pt range, that is the only way I don't see his draft position as a failure.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 16, 2017, 01:24:05 AM
And Kris Dunn had been playing so well.  Sigh.

Dunn is a total bust. He was old as a rookie, and he has shown absolutely no signs of improvement. I still remember when a bunch of people were p---ed the Celtics took Jaylen over him on draft night.
The only reason why people wanted Dunn is to trade him for Jimmy Butler or Noel.
that was not the only reason. He went to providence.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RodyTur10 on November 16, 2017, 11:06:37 AM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on November 16, 2017, 11:15:32 AM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.

This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 16, 2017, 11:20:33 AM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.

This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.

Yikes!

Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RodyTur10 on November 16, 2017, 01:26:58 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.

This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.

Yikes!

Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.

Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you  ;D.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 16, 2017, 02:05:55 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.

This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.

Yikes!

Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.

Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you  ;D.

Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RodyTur10 on November 16, 2017, 02:56:21 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.

This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.

Yikes!

Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.

Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you  ;D.

Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.

I purposely misinterpreted that sentence, since without the proper meaning it looks like such ''a casually racist remark'' that it would make the post by jpotter33 very offensive.

So taken out of context I could falsely accuse him for being racist, while he was completely caught off guard. This is really funny to me since it's such an absurd turn of events from a post that nobody would see any harm in and now by my deliberate misinterpretation he has to defend himself for not being a racist.

It's also a joke that sarcastically criticizes the PC culture where everybody gets offended for no good reason and accuse others for discrimination or racism on dubious grounds without perspective.

I like my joke here and won't apologize for it. I hope jpotter33 can see the humor in it and if he does he deserves a TP.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 16, 2017, 03:08:49 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.

This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.

Yikes!

Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.

Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you  ;D.

Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.

I purposely misinterpreted that sentence, since without the proper meaning it looks like such ''a casually racist remark'' that it would make the post by jpotter33 very offensive.

So taken out of context I could falsely accuse him for being racist, while he was completely caught off guard. This is really funny to me since it's such an absurd turn of events from a post that nobody would see any harm in and now by my deliberate misinterpretation he has to defend himself for not being a racist.

It's also a joke that sarcastically criticizes the PC culture where everybody gets offended for no good reason and accuse others for discrimination or racism on dubious grounds without perspective.

I like my joke here and won't apologize for it. I hope jpotter33 can see the humor in it and if he does he deserves a TP.

Ha! Good, I figured you were making light of how the sentence sounds out of context, but some people legitimately might not know that term and think it was me being offensive. TP.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 16, 2017, 03:59:05 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.

This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.

Yikes!

Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.

Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you  ;D.

Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.

I purposely misinterpreted that sentence, since without the proper meaning it looks like such ''a casually racist remark'' that it would make the post by jpotter33 very offensive.

So taken out of context I could falsely accuse him for being racist, while he was completely caught off guard. This is really funny to me since it's such an absurd turn of events from a post that nobody would see any harm in and now by my deliberate misinterpretation he has to defend himself for not being a racist.

It's also a joke that sarcastically criticizes the PC culture where everybody gets offended for no good reason and accuse others for discrimination or racism on dubious grounds without perspective.

I like my joke here and won't apologize for it. I hope jpotter33 can see the humor in it and if he does he deserves a TP.

Ha! Good, I figured you were making light of how the sentence sounds out of context, but some people legitimately might not know that term and think it was me being offensive. TP.

I got the joke. I was doing a charade to prompt for chaos and confusion. I would like to be the Nathan Felder of this board.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RodyTur10 on November 16, 2017, 04:01:58 PM
Listening to the Cavaliers broadcast team as a non-Cavs fan (especially Austin Carr the color commentator) must be what it's like for our opponents to listen to Tommy.

I find them unbearable, but since I live in Cleveland I always have to watch their feed to watch Cavs games.  :-\

I hate this guy too, but no reason to be racist.

This is either a really bad joke, or you are unaware 'color commentator' is a legit term.

Yikes!

Yeah, I thought the term "color commentator" for broadcasting was pretty well-known.

Yes, I'm familiar with the term. Was just screwing around with you  ;D.

Now I am confused. Was Jpotter trying to be racist or not? I generally like your posts, but that doesn't seem very cool.

I purposely misinterpreted that sentence, since without the proper meaning it looks like such ''a casually racist remark'' that it would make the post by jpotter33 very offensive.

So taken out of context I could falsely accuse him for being racist, while he was completely caught off guard. This is really funny to me since it's such an absurd turn of events from a post that nobody would see any harm in and now by my deliberate misinterpretation he has to defend himself for not being a racist.

It's also a joke that sarcastically criticizes the PC culture where everybody gets offended for no good reason and accuse others for discrimination or racism on dubious grounds without perspective.

I like my joke here and won't apologize for it. I hope jpotter33 can see the humor in it and if he does he deserves a TP.

Ha! Good, I figured you were making light of how the sentence sounds out of context, but some people legitimately might not know that term and think it was me being offensive. TP.

I got the joke. I was doing a charade to prompt for chaos and confusion. I would like to be the Nathan Felder of this board.

TP for the attempt  ;).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on November 16, 2017, 11:17:38 PM
I know it's oranges and apples, but Houston has made more threes in the first quarter than we made in the whole game.

That team has scary good shooters.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 16, 2017, 11:45:21 PM
Harden 33 pts and itís not even half time yet.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 16, 2017, 11:46:51 PM
Most points in a half  since 1991. Rockets have 90. Lol more than Golden State has the whole game
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 17, 2017, 07:40:02 PM
Cavs are using Celtic's old starting lineup song. lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 17, 2017, 07:50:36 PM
My God, the Cavs look atrocious, even offensively. Nothing but contested jumpers that aren't falling.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 17, 2017, 07:54:54 PM
Cavs making Jordan look like Shaq
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 17, 2017, 08:09:30 PM
My God, the Cavs look atrocious, even offensively. Nothing but contested jumpers that aren't falling.

IT will bring his 28 points per and everything will be O tay


Sides ...Bron loves play n 40 minutes a night .
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 17, 2017, 08:13:43 PM
Derrick Rose could be out for another few weeks by the way.

Injury-prone Rose being Injury-prone Rose...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 17, 2017, 08:16:13 PM
Even Harrell looks like Barkley there ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 17, 2017, 08:29:10 PM
Lol this Cavs defense is comical. And it'll get even worse when you replace Shump with IT in the starting unit.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 17, 2017, 09:23:58 PM
Cavs 2nd unit is saving them once again, those guys will win them playoff games, that's a really good bench to have. Wade, Korver and Green can take turns and explode for 20 on any night. Rose too if healthy.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: matteo on November 17, 2017, 09:32:28 PM
detroit dropping one, also washington loses, nets probably gonna win, just need lakers to lose to make it a near perfect night
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 17, 2017, 09:38:38 PM
detroit dropping one, also washington loses, nets probably gonna win, just need lakers to lose to make it a near perfect night

Detroit lost to Pacers with Oladipo having a big game again (box score), 21/4/15. He has got to be near the top in MIP, right?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 17, 2017, 09:41:28 PM
I wish I can mute Cavs broadcast. The color commentator is so annoying.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 17, 2017, 09:54:42 PM
I wish I can mute Cavs broadcast. The color commentator is so annoying.

I turn him off .....he is worse than a homer .....maybe only surpassed by another turd that sounds just like him for the Rockets.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 17, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
The defense in this Cavs/Clips game has been unwatchable for both sides.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 17, 2017, 10:02:10 PM
And this Clippers team offense is like barren outside of Griffin, who is struggling himself.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 17, 2017, 10:03:50 PM
I know the Clippers are decimated by injuries but Griffin just can't close out games.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on November 17, 2017, 10:06:28 PM
If LeBron keeps playing like this and dragging these terrible Cavs over the finish line he'll be MVP. I just can't see how he'll be able to keep playing all these minutes.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jambr380 on November 17, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
If LeBron keeps playing like this and dragging these terrible Cavs over the finish line he'll be MVP. I just can't see how he'll be able to keep playing all these minutes.

Eh, I am okay with the  Cavs getting the 2 or 3 seed. This is assuming of course that the Cs once again get the 1 seed. I would hate to face the Cavs in the 2nd round. Keep overplaying Lebron and let him get burned out by the ECF. Over 46 mins tonight - I just don't know if he can keep this up through June.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 17, 2017, 10:24:12 PM
Patty mills is garbage
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 17, 2017, 10:29:41 PM
Melo shot a 2 Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 17, 2017, 10:51:58 PM
Nuggets vs Pelicans

25-4, nuggets winning so far
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Atzar on November 17, 2017, 11:13:17 PM
Welcome to Shaqtin, Diallo.

Just cut to the basket while looking at the floor.  Jameer Nelson donked him off the head with the ball. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 18, 2017, 12:45:13 AM
The Clippers have lost 8 out of their last 9. If the Clippers continue to go in the tank I wonder if Ainge can get Lou Williams (1 year $7 million) with the DPE. We need clips to blow it up. Just the scorer the Celtics need off the bench.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 18, 2017, 12:52:32 AM
Lakers go down to the Suns tonight. Another poor game by Lonzo Ball as well.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 18, 2017, 12:54:37 AM
Lakers go down to the Suns tonight. Another poor game by Lonzo Ball as well.
haha nice. Suns move up too so 2 birds there
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 18, 2017, 01:00:51 AM
Lakers go down to the Suns tonight. Another poor game by Lonzo Ball as well.
haha nice. Suns move up too so 2 birds there

Nets also currently have the 10th worst record, so that Kyrie trade ain't looking to good for the Cavs at the moment.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 18, 2017, 01:04:45 AM
Lakers go down to the Suns tonight. Another poor game by Lonzo Ball as well.
haha nice. Suns move up too so 2 birds there

Nets also currently have the 10th worst record, so that Kyrie trade ain't looking to good for the Cavs at the moment.
lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on November 18, 2017, 01:09:23 AM
Let it go... Let it goooooooo.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on November 18, 2017, 01:12:55 AM
A near perfect day for us; Detroit, Wizards, Pelicans, Lakers lose and Brooklyn, Bulls, Suns, Kings all win!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 18, 2017, 01:24:30 AM
Gentry said everyone embarrassed their franchise tonight. Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Beat LA on November 18, 2017, 03:03:36 AM
Sindarius Thornwell is the basketball version of Marcus Smart.  Sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n6pmndMjJA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KocuudXc3lQ
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: DooVoo on November 18, 2017, 03:23:43 AM
The Clippers have lost 8 out of their last 9. If the Clippers continue to go in the tank I wonder if Ainge can get Lou Williams (1 year $7 million) with the DPE. We need clips to blow it up. Just the scorer the Celtics need off the bench.

He is a 6'1" SG who is terrible defensively and more of a volume scorer. Not the type of guy who fits with the Celtics.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on November 18, 2017, 08:11:17 PM
Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on November 18, 2017, 08:43:35 PM
Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?

Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.

That's a legit playoff team in the East.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on November 18, 2017, 08:50:15 PM
Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?

Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.

That's a legit playoff team in the East.

The 76ers lucked into the perfect team to beat the Warriors, size, spacing and passing. They essentially fluked what Pop is trying to do in San Antonio...Warriors have no answer to Embiid.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 18, 2017, 08:54:45 PM
A near perfect day for us; Detroit, Wizards, Pelicans, Lakers lose and Brooklyn, Bulls, Suns, Kings all win!

the gods have smiled on us  :D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 18, 2017, 08:55:15 PM
Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?

Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.

That's a legit playoff team in the East.
The miracle is only 4 turnovers.  Can't see that holding up so expect GSW to come back but it was a very impressive 1st half. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 18, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Embiid just got injured. Unclear if serious
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 18, 2017, 09:04:22 PM
GSW climbing back.  Down 12 now with lots of time left.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on November 18, 2017, 09:05:09 PM
GSW climbing back.  Down 12 now with lots of time left.

You can never be too confident against the Warriors with the lead.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 18, 2017, 09:17:44 PM
GSW climbing back.  Down 12 now with lots of time left.

You can never be too confident against the Warriors with the lead.

Warriors now winning
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 18, 2017, 09:18:01 PM
GSW just erased a 23 point deficit in 10 minutes of play in the third in Philly.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 18, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?

Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.

That's a legit playoff team in the East.

Confusing as I saw this too (Simmons with 18 in the first half).  He now shows 15 in the box score near end of the third.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 18, 2017, 09:24:16 PM
Wrong Thread
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 18, 2017, 09:26:25 PM
Wow GSW up by 10.  a 33 point swing in about 15 minutes.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on November 18, 2017, 09:30:25 PM
Anyone see Philly just put up 47 in the first quarter against the Golden Suck Warriors?

Simmons with 18 points and 9 assists at the half. Embiid with 17, Covington with 15, and Redick with 13.

That's a legit playoff team in the East.

Confusing as I saw this too (Simmons with 18 in the first half).  He now shows 15 in the box score near end of the third.

That's a relief, I thought I was going crazy for a minute there.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on November 18, 2017, 09:55:32 PM
Warriors completely flipped the switch on the 76ers....wow
up by 12 now, down by 18-19 before right?

sheesh, curry going off.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: JSD on November 18, 2017, 10:33:31 PM
 :o :o :o :o


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO9RlohUEAA6V3a.jpg)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 18, 2017, 10:58:43 PM
Marc Gasol got a tech for kicking a player's shoe off the court LOL.

Marc isn't a tech kind of guy....looked like he was just trying to get it out of the way before someone rolled an ankle.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 19, 2017, 01:13:20 AM
Mavs beat the bucks.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 19, 2017, 01:20:04 AM
Why did Giannis play 40 minutes?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 19, 2017, 01:30:34 AM
:o :o :o :o


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO9RlohUEAA6V3a.jpg)
76ers canít defend the perimeter
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on November 19, 2017, 01:42:43 AM
Why did Giannis play 40 minutes?

Fairly slow pace game. Kidd tried for a little too long to pull the Bucks back into it though.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 19, 2017, 02:36:43 AM
Wow GSW up by 10.  a 33 point swing in about 15 minutes.

They just need LeBron.

All Cís fans should be shook.

🙄
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 19, 2017, 04:01:46 PM
Today we need:

Nets to beat warriors
nuggets to beat Lakers
Bulls to beat suns (a wash either way, no confidence bulls will add up wins but you never know )
Wolves to beat pistons (give us larger margin from 1 to 2 seed)
Heat to beat pacers (so they don't fall behind Lakers in win count, wash either way)

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on November 19, 2017, 04:29:02 PM
Today we need:
Heat to beat pacers (so they don't fall behind Lakers in win count, wash either way)

No, we don't. The Heat are a better team that the Pacers and it should be proven over the course of the season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 19, 2017, 04:45:46 PM
Today we need:

Nets to beat warriors
nuggets to beat Lakers
Bulls to beat suns (a wash either way, no confidence bulls will add up wins but you never know )
Wolves to beat pistons (give us larger margin from 1 to 2 seed)
Heat to beat pacers (so they don't fall behind Lakers in win count, wash either way)

Firstly, posts like this are probably best for the Lakers watch thread.

Secondly, Iíd prefer Phoenix over Chicago.  The Bulls are terrible and want to get that high pick this year.  The Lakers are not finishing below Chicago.  Phoenix has had a bottom 4 record two years running, and might want to pretend for some portion of the year that theyíre not terrible.  Itís possible (although not probable) that the Lakers finish beneath them.  Wins over Chicago will heíll that cause.

Remember, the big drop off between odds is from 4th place to 5th (from 70.9% that we get the pick to 46.5%).  We want the Lakers to have a bottom 4 record to have a better than even chance to get the pick.  So itís best if 2-3 teams on the bottom prop up the record of the next tier of bad teams (so Chicago, Dallas, and Sacramento lose to Phoenix and Atlanta), while of course beating the Lakers when they play.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: JBcat on November 19, 2017, 05:11:35 PM
Today we need:

Nets to beat warriors
nuggets to beat Lakers
Bulls to beat suns (a wash either way, no confidence bulls will add up wins but you never know )
Wolves to beat pistons (give us larger margin from 1 to 2 seed)
Heat to beat pacers (so they don't fall behind Lakers in win count, wash either way)

Firstly, posts like this are probably best for the Lakers watch thread.

Secondly, Iíd prefer Phoenix over Chicago.  The Bulls are terrible and want to get that high pick this year.  The Lakers are not finishing below Chicago.  Phoenix has had a bottom 4 record two years running, and might want to pretend for some portion of the year that theyíre not terrible.  Itís possible (although not probable) that the Lakers finish beneath them.  Wins over Chicago will heíll that cause.

Remember, the big drop off between odds is from 4th place to 5th (from 70.9% that we get the pick to 46.5%).  We want the Lakers to have a bottom 4 record to have a better than even chance to get the pick.  So itís best if 2-3 teams on the bottom prop up the record of the next tier of bad teams (so Chicago, Dallas, and Sacramento lose to Phoenix and Atlanta), while of course beating the Lakers when they play.

TP.  Iíll just add Iím hoping the Kings catch the Lakers (only 2 wins away and the Lakers have a really tough schedule in December coming up).  The Mavs just had a surprising victory over the Bucks so who knows with them.  Iíd feel a whole lot better if the Lakers secure the 3rd worst record.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 19, 2017, 05:49:29 PM
If the Nets beat the Warriors ...

Then i need to check my lotto numberb

The m sure Ive won
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 19, 2017, 07:23:55 PM
So far Nets down 24 in the 3rd q

Not looking good for the Nets 


Pacers beat the heat by 25. (We play the heat the 22nd and pacers the 25th)

Raptors beat the wiz by 9. Wolves beating Pistons  by like 6 right now in the 1st
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on November 19, 2017, 08:01:26 PM
Is Dinwiddie better than Rozier? Legit question. He's about the same age, but he's 6-6, can really shoot, plays under control, and knows how to run an offense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on November 19, 2017, 08:18:39 PM
Is Dinwiddie better than Rozier?

In short, yes.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on November 19, 2017, 08:22:08 PM
Is Dinwiddie better than Rozier?

In short, yes.

Yeah, that's what my eyes tell me. In addition, a quick glance at his stats show that he's averaging 11 ppg, a ridiculous 44.6% from 3, and 5.6 apg (with only 1 tov).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 19, 2017, 09:34:53 PM
Warriors and pistons won

Suns up 3
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 19, 2017, 10:07:35 PM
Suns up 9, 5 min left in game

Nuggets down 6, end of 1st q
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on November 19, 2017, 10:10:51 PM
Pistons over the T-wolves in Minn today.  Seems like Detroit is having a really great start to the season, kind of under the radar right now.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 20, 2017, 07:53:05 PM
Sadly I think the Cavs are back to being a good team (though they still have serious defensive flaws). They are currently routing the Pistons.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 20, 2017, 07:58:49 PM
Sadly I think the Cavs are back to being a good team (though they still have serious defensive flaws). They are currently routing the Pistons.

The Pistons played a game in Minnesota yesterday.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 20, 2017, 08:17:38 PM
Sadly I think the Cavs are back to being a good team (though they still have serious defensive flaws). They are currently routing the Pistons.

The Pistons played a game in Minnesota yesterday.
sure, but assuming they finish this game out they will have won 6 of their last 7 with their only loss being a very close game in Houston.

Although the only noteworthy teams in the 7 game stretch would be Houston (they lost), Milwaukee(good matchup for Cle) and Detroit.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 20, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
Sadly I think the Cavs are back to being a good team (though they still have serious defensive flaws). They are currently routing the Pistons.

was nothing more than old guys taking time to get it going. oh well, WE can still beat them!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Emmette Bryant on November 20, 2017, 09:46:16 PM
Since I really hate starting new threads, I hope this article will fit in here.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/somebody-break-up-the-nbas-eastern-conference/?ex_cid=538twitter
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 21, 2017, 11:33:13 PM
Ball is really really bad.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on November 22, 2017, 10:09:07 PM
Well...OKC blowing out the Warriors. And Westbrook and Durant had a little altercation too!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on November 22, 2017, 11:07:16 PM
Since I really hate starting new threads, I hope this article will fit in here.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/somebody-break-up-the-nbas-eastern-conference/?ex_cid=538twitter

Don't worry a new thread will disappear with a few of Rollie thoughts.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on November 23, 2017, 12:52:50 AM
We've been a little spoiled compared to the rest of the league.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 24, 2017, 01:55:14 PM
Nets up 4 pts in the 4th on the blazers. Whether they win or not, this nets team has proven to be not the same garbage losing streak team as in the past few years
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 24, 2017, 02:40:20 PM
Nets blew their lead and lost
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ChillyWilly on November 24, 2017, 03:25:30 PM
Since I really hate starting new threads, I hope this article will fit in here.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/somebody-break-up-the-nbas-eastern-conference/?ex_cid=538twitter

Don't worry a new thread will disappear with a few of Rollie thoughts.

That made me spit my "soda" out. I play a game..in the right menu is Latest Forum Topics and I try to guess which ones are Rollie from the headlines.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 25, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
Thunder down 23 entering the 4th against the Mavs in Dallas. What's up with that team? They just can't it together
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 25, 2017, 10:49:23 PM
Who gets fired first, Donovan or Doc?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on November 26, 2017, 04:04:36 PM
After the first quarter, Bulls v Heat - 13 to 7. 6 field goals made combined for both teams.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on November 26, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
After the first quarter, Bulls v Heat - 13 to 7. 6 field goals made combined for both teams.

That's inexcusable for both teams!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 26, 2017, 04:44:22 PM
After the first quarter, Bulls v Heat - 13 to 7. 6 field goals made combined for both teams.

That's inexcusable for both teams!

Afternoon games are the worst in the NBA.  45-42 at the half is low-scoring, but not obscene.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on November 26, 2017, 09:06:55 PM
The thunder are one of the teams making it easy for the Lakers. The Thunder remain winless on the road against the Western Conference and are now once again 3 games under .500, with two humiliating performances following Wednesdayís big win over the Warriors.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 27, 2017, 07:24:06 PM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 27, 2017, 07:29:00 PM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.

Yeah, Iím for the Cavs on this one.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on November 27, 2017, 07:29:45 PM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: More Banners on November 27, 2017, 07:32:27 PM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.

Yeah, Iím for the Cavs on this one.

Sad, sad day.

I'm for a random meteor blasting down through the roof and wiping out both teams. It's a curse I once reserved for Heat/Lakers games...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 27, 2017, 07:42:16 PM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.

Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 27, 2017, 10:35:02 PM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.

Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1

Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 27, 2017, 11:41:12 PM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.

Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1

Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now.  For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.   
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 28, 2017, 12:53:22 AM
Griffin just went to the locker room after Rivers landed on his leg while fighting for a loose ball.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 28, 2017, 12:57:43 AM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.

Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1

Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now.  For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.   

Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 28, 2017, 01:02:10 AM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.

Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1

Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now.  For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.   

Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...

Thanks man tp. Aside from us it was the most entertaining game on the schedule by a mile. Was actually the only other game with two +500 teams. Sorry your team lost tazz

I would have preferred both teams lost, more bummed we lost
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 28, 2017, 01:02:30 AM
SWEET LOU!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 28, 2017, 01:03:15 AM
Warriors lose at home to the kings without curry and durant
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 28, 2017, 01:03:55 AM
Warriors lose at home to the kings without curry and durant

Lakers down 115-120 to LAC with 11.8 secs remaining. Lou with 42  :)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 28, 2017, 01:04:04 AM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.

Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1

Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now.  For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.   

Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
is this meant to be ironic?

honestly cant tell
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 28, 2017, 01:13:52 AM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.

Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1

Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now.  For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.   

Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
is this meant to be ironic?

honestly cant tell

Yes.  But cclay is also my dude, so I hoped to kill 2 birds with one stone. 

And I can appreciate the 76ers --Simmons is the only bright spot on my challenged fantasy team. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 28, 2017, 01:19:04 AM
Cavs playing the upstart 76ers right now. Lebron seems to have brought his A game against the self proclaimed best defensive player in the league Embiid.

I am honestly not sure who I want to win this game. I root against the Cavs as our main rival just about every game. However,  I have a feeling if the 76ers win this though the level of support from 76ers and posts talking about them as a dynasty will be really unbearable.
Probably so, however, I would root for the Cavs in this case.  The sixers heads are getting too big.

Covington certainly looked very very average that first quarter. I wonder if he turns into crowder 1.1

Well a humbling loss and a minor Simmons injury should maybe calm things down a bit. I do hope Simmons isn't seriously hurt cause I like watching him play.
Replying to yourself now.  For someone who complained about there being too many Sixers posts, you sure do post on the Sixers a lot.   

Getting pretty fed up with the questionable allegiance of some posters...
is this meant to be ironic?

honestly cant tell

Yes.  But cclay is also my dude, so I hoped to kill 2 birds with one stone. 

I can appreciate the 76ers tho -Simmons is the only bright spot on my challenged fantasy team.

I don't think anyone has ever actually questioned my love of celtics. I stand up for people that act like everything we do is crap and everything other teams do is great. I'm usually on the same page with Tar Heels and he is also my dude
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 28, 2017, 03:13:45 AM
Well it looks like Griffin may be done for the season. I hope not, but he injured his knee late in the game and it didnít look good. He was able to walk off on his own but Iíd be surprised if itís just a hyperextension.

If itís the worst case, thatís bad news for the Lakers pick this year and maybe the Clippers pick going forward.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on November 28, 2017, 06:01:15 AM
Well it looks like Griffin may be done for the season. I hope not, but he injured his knee late in the game and it didnít look good. He was able to walk off on his own but Iíd be surprised if itís just a hyperextension.

If itís the worst case, thatís bad news for the Lakers pick this year and maybe the Clippers pick going forward.

I think itíd be good news for the Clippers pick.  If Griffin is out for most of the year, but able to come back next season, they can have a year in the tank to get a good draft pick, but at the same time might not feel the need to blow everything up this summer.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 28, 2017, 08:11:04 PM
Kevin Love 32 at half (he probably will not play full second half cause Cavs are dominating the Heat) They need to get Derrick Rose and Tristan Thompson back to start playing awful again.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 28, 2017, 08:13:06 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 29, 2017, 01:07:49 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 29, 2017, 08:12:27 PM
Porzingis with a brutal looking ankle injury:

WARNING GRAPHIC VID (like 2 notches less cringey than Hayward, for context)

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/936034774933585920 (https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/936034774933585920)


Update: X-rays apparently negative. God bless young joints.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2017, 08:16:33 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 29, 2017, 08:37:16 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

I was acutally joking in my posts. To be honest, other than Lebron and maybe Love and Isaiah. I'm not sure if the Cavs are really more talented than the Celtics.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 29, 2017, 08:42:09 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 29, 2017, 09:12:43 PM
Can the Thunder get any worse?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 29, 2017, 09:16:20 PM
Can the Thunder get any worse?

I get the scary feeling this means George could be traded mid-season... to Cleveland..  :o

Or he just walks this summer and goes to Lakers.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 29, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
Lol they're hacking Simmons in Philly due to his terrible free throws.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2017, 09:24:25 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.

Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on November 29, 2017, 09:26:24 PM
Lol they're hacking Simmons in Philly due to his terrible free throws.

And it's working.  :P

Their lead to cut to just 4.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on November 29, 2017, 09:45:36 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.

Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.

Do they have the better team?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 29, 2017, 10:12:47 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.

Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.

Do they have the better team?

It's very bizarre to me that Celtics fan would be in a rush to call another team the better team when ever measure you could use says the Celtics are a better team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2017, 10:40:59 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.

Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.

Do they have the better team?

It's very bizarre to me that Celtics fan would be in a rush to call another team the better team when ever measure you could use says the Celtics are a better team.
How is it rushing?

I dont get this. We have been better than them so far, but thats unlikely to continue. Are the Pistons better than them too?

Last year, according to most metrics we were right there with Cleveland. In reality, we werent they were way better.

With Hayward Im all aboard, but without hayward, our talent level just isnt that high. Im not gonna overreact to a fast start. Is Houston better than Golden State? is Philly better than Washington and Milwaukee? I dont think so. I dont think a Leonardless Spurs team is actually the 3rd best team in the West.

Remember, last year our differentials with Cleveland were very close and we had more wins then them. But guess what? Cleveland was a lot better. When they wanted to crush us, they crushed us. Thus far weve been quite lucky in winning close games and with our opponents missing shots they typically make. This wont continue. Unless, of course, you think we are gonna win ~67 games.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on November 29, 2017, 10:48:46 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.

Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.

Do they have the better team?

It's very bizarre to me that Celtics fan would be in a rush to call another team the better team when ever measure you could use says the Celtics are a better team.

When have the Cavs ever cared about the regular season? The East goes through LeBron until it doesnít. It will take a hellacious series to knock them off this year. Games will come down to winning time and the Cís second best player got hurt 5 minutes into the season. Relying way too much on a rookie and sophomore this year. Expectations got way too increased after that win streak. The Cís are still underdogs right now.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on November 29, 2017, 10:49:39 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.

Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.

Do they have the better team?

It's very bizarre to me that Celtics fan would be in a rush to call another team the better team when ever measure you could use says the Celtics are a better team.
How is it rushing?

I dont get this. We have been better than them so far, but thats unlikely to continue. Are the Pistons better than them too?

Last year, according to most metrics we were right there with Cleveland. In reality, we werent they were way better.

With Hayward Im all aboard, but without hayward, our talent level just isnt that high. Im not gonna overreact to a fast start. Is Houston better than Golden State? is Philly better than Washington and Milwaukee? I dont think so. I dont think a Leonardless Spurs team is actually the 3rd best team in the West.

Remember, last year our differentials with Cleveland were very close and we had more wins then them. But guess what? Cleveland was a lot better. When they wanted to crush us, they crushed us. Thus far weve been quite lucky in winning close games and with our opponents missing shots they typically make. This wont continue. Unless, of course, you think we are gonna win ~67 games.

To answer your questions yes I think philly is better than Milwaukee and Washington. I don't think Houston is better than golden state but they are pretty close. I also just feel like Hayward would be back if we made it far enough to play them in playoffs. Cleveland also has some of the oldest players in the league that may be warm down later in the year based on how lue runs them into the ground. We should continue to get better from our young and improving players over the next 6 months.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on November 29, 2017, 10:56:54 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.

Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.

The question is right now in this moment in time. It's hard to argue that right now Cleveland is the better team. I think the majority of people would take Boston in a 7 game series right now, which is ultimately what we're talking about.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 01, 2017, 06:47:00 AM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.

No, it's pretty unreasonable. Right now we're clearly the better team, and that's reflected in our better record on an essentially identical strength of schedule and more injuries to significant rotation players. Maybe that changes once IT comes back (given that Gordy is out; we're clearly better fully healthy), but it's unequivocally not the case right now.

People are exaggerating Cleveland's win streak, because they fail to realize that it's largely due to a soft schedule. In their 9 game win streak, they've played only 2 top 10 teams and 4 bottom 10 teams. Put another way, they've played 7 lottery teams and only 2 currently playoff-bound teams.

Hell, other than a few key games (such as Detroit and Philly), Cleveland hasn't looked all that good in their run. Their defense is still atrocious, and they still rely on Lebron playing major minutes at 33 years old to win games.
Which team has been better over the first quarter of the season? celtics by a mile.

Which team is actually better? the Cavs. They have Lebron. The Celtics dont.

The question is right now in this moment in time. It's hard to argue that right now Cleveland is the better team. I think the majority of people would take Boston in a 7 game series right now, which is ultimately what we're talking about.
If they playoffs started today I'd have Cle coming out of the East all day long
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on December 01, 2017, 09:49:49 PM
What's up with NBA superstars getting ejected this week?

LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and now Kevin Durant? Wow! Has there been a star-treatment disagreement between the superstars and referees or what  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 01, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
So the Pistons lose by 18 to the Wizards without Wall.  I'm having trouble considering them a serious playoff threat. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: green_bballers13 on December 01, 2017, 10:25:25 PM
So the Pistons lose by 18 to the Wizards without Wall.  I'm having trouble considering them a serious playoff threat.

They're pretty much the same as last year, and should be healthy in the playoffs, right?

The Celtics will prob be better than last year in the playoffs.

The Bucks and the Pistons are most likely to be the most improved teams in the ECF. If MIL gets D. Jordan to match with Giannis, Bledsoe, and Jabari, watch out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on December 01, 2017, 10:32:43 PM
So the Pistons lose by 18 to the Wizards without Wall.  I'm having trouble considering them a serious playoff threat.

They're pretty much the same as last year, and should be healthy in the playoffs, right?

The Celtics will prob be better than last year in the playoffs.

The Bucks and the Pistons are most likely to be the most improved teams in the ECF. If MIL gets D. Jordan to match with Giannis, Bledsoe, and Jabari, watch out.

Bucks will be the best rebounding team in the league, but their shooting have left much to be desired and their perimeter defense is one of the worst in the league.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on December 01, 2017, 10:33:16 PM
Bucks have a coaching issue.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 01, 2017, 10:59:41 PM
So the Pistons lose by 18 to the Wizards without Wall.  I'm having trouble considering them a serious playoff threat.

They're pretty much the same as last year, and should be healthy in the playoffs, right?

The Celtics will prob be better than last year in the playoffs.

The Bucks and the Pistons are most likely to be the most improved teams in the ECF. If MIL gets D. Jordan to match with Giannis, Bledsoe, and Jabari, watch out.
Poor wording.  I meant to specifically to question the Pistons as a playoff threat.  The Bucks with Jordon don't concern me.  He'd clog the paint for Giannis.  Jabari is a lousy defender and he's combing back from ACL surgery. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on December 01, 2017, 11:25:59 PM
Our poor resident misunderstood "superstar" demarcus with another innefficient meaningless double double in a loss.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on December 01, 2017, 11:55:14 PM
Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 02, 2017, 12:10:44 AM
Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.
Poor trade by Denver but they do have Harris and Murray.  What about the Pistons choosing Kennard over Mitchell?   
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 02, 2017, 12:20:13 AM
Our poor resident misunderstood "superstar" demarcus with another innefficient meaningless double double in a loss.
Didn't see the game but doesn't look like Cousins was to blame based on the box score.  Looks like Rondo had a good night 13/11/8 on good shooting.   
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 02, 2017, 12:49:37 AM
Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.

Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on December 02, 2017, 01:09:35 AM
Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.

Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.

Straight into the ROY conversation. He will put up 20 shots every game now. Utah had been grooming Hood to be their primary wing scorer, but Mitchell looks like a Vet.

Interesting to see what they do with Exum now..
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 04, 2017, 12:25:50 PM
Derrick Rose reports back to Cavs. I predict the win streak ends as soon as he plays legit minutes.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 12:40:59 PM
Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.

Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.

Straight into the ROY conversation. He will put up 20 shots every game now. Utah had been grooming Hood to be their primary wing scorer, but Mitchell looks like a Vet.

Interesting to see what they do with Exum now..

They should keep Exum, try to get rid of Burks.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on December 04, 2017, 11:21:37 PM
I just checked the score of Jazz-Wizards. Utah really murdered Washington in this game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on December 04, 2017, 11:38:46 PM
Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.

Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.

Straight into the ROY conversation. He will put up 20 shots every game now. Utah had been grooming Hood to be their primary wing scorer, but Mitchell looks like a Vet.

Interesting to see what they do with Exum now..

They should keep Exum, try to get rid of Burks.

Burks is much better than Exum. He lit it up again tonight with 27 points. He's much more proven than Exum, and he's just rounding back into form after his past injuries. They should move on from Exum.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 05, 2017, 12:28:52 AM
Can't believe that no one has mentioned Donovan Mitchell's 40 point game, the guy is a such a stud, could easily be the best player in the draft. Denver really screwed the pooch on that one considering he was their pick and the guard position is their weakest along with their defence.

Yep. Didn't they trade the pick that became Gobert to Utah as well? Huge Mitchell fan (Louisville) and think he's going to be really good, but I'd take Tatum all day.

Straight into the ROY conversation. He will put up 20 shots every game now. Utah had been grooming Hood to be their primary wing scorer, but Mitchell looks like a Vet.

Interesting to see what they do with Exum now..

They should keep Exum, try to get rid of Burks.

Burks is much better than Exum. He lit it up again tonight with 27 points. He's much more proven than Exum, and he's just rounding back into form after his past injuries. They should move on from Exum.

Utah seems like they have really figured something out the last few weeks. Very impressive stretch
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 06, 2017, 06:20:35 PM
Quote
Rick Carlisle said Nerlens Noel will be having surgery on his left thumb to repair a torn ligament. "He'll be out for several weeks. I don't know how long."

https://twitter.com/bobbykaralla/status/938545119002849280
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 08, 2017, 09:20:51 PM
Dipo wants to end that Cavs streak!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 08, 2017, 09:29:21 PM
Cavs streak over. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 08, 2017, 09:29:41 PM
Dipo wants to end that Cavs streak!

Sorry, Cavs, our streak was better!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/0d0b631e7b6bee06d58c058ee1a8fd37/tenor.gif?itemid=9435665)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on December 08, 2017, 09:31:58 PM
Lebron with more than 35 minutes again.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1ejnt9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on December 08, 2017, 10:20:57 PM
Dipo wants to end that Cavs streak!

Sorry, Cavs, our streak was better!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/0d0b631e7b6bee06d58c058ee1a8fd37/tenor.gif?itemid=9435665)
kyrie will be popping a bottle tonight. He gets the last laugh
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 09, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
BIZARRE that theyíre repeating the play

Edit: Clips hang on
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 09, 2017, 08:12:22 PM
Zizic with the start in Cleveland tonight with Love out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on December 09, 2017, 08:37:01 PM
Zizic with the start in Cleveland tonight with Love out.

Looks like it didn't go to well for him.

Either way, w/o Love it will be tough for Cleveland.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 10, 2017, 01:47:18 AM
Josh Jackson has really not looked good thus far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: esel1000 on December 10, 2017, 07:25:34 PM
Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought Iíd say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on December 10, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
The Pelicans gave up 40 points to the Sixers without Embiid. And they are playing with Cousins and Davis.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 10, 2017, 09:12:40 PM
Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought Iíd say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.

It's crazy! Maturity does wonders for players. Confidence can carry you a long way too!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 10, 2017, 09:14:29 PM
Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought Iíd say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.

It's crazy! Maturity does wonders for players. Confidence can carry you a long way too!
not playing next to Westbrook is big too.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on December 10, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought Iíd say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.

Saw this tweet online:

'Victor Oladipo's nickname should be "Rated R", because he's showing more adult stuff than PG 13'
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on December 10, 2017, 10:10:59 PM
The Pelicans gave up 40 points to the Sixers without Embiid. And they are playing with Cousins and Davis.

That really was a pathetic empty game of basketball void of defense.

Neither of those teams would be proud of that film.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on December 10, 2017, 11:04:22 PM
Also Luwawu Cabarrot is truly awful.

I remember a poster on here saying that he was the equivalent to Jaylen Brown for a much lower pick. My goodness. Some sixer fan quotes for reference.

Quote

Bayliss plays like dog ****. Wish we traded him instead of sauce. He is horrible. Him and TLC can p--- off.

Furkan done more then Bayless and TLC from 1 shot.

I just hope this is the game Brown finally realises Holmes > Amir and Furkan > TLC+Bayless. Go home Bayless you're drunk.

Bayless and TLC. Just lol.

I love how there's no crowd so you can just hear Brett yelling constantly at TLC.

Can't be any worse then TLC. He is terrible. Can't hit open 3's, can't defend and turns it over.
 

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on December 10, 2017, 11:24:11 PM
#BringBackRondo
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on December 11, 2017, 02:10:47 AM
Rondo dominated!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on December 11, 2017, 10:07:45 PM
Pels are neck-and-neck with the Rockets right now.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on December 11, 2017, 10:09:08 PM
Rondo with a triple-double!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on December 11, 2017, 10:10:10 PM
Cousins forcing things and missing FTs. Glad we didn't invest on him.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on December 11, 2017, 10:14:23 PM
Dumb coaching by the Pelicans. Rondo should handle the ball.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on December 11, 2017, 11:48:19 PM
Pelicans are a joke
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: moiso on December 12, 2017, 12:05:19 AM
Oladipo has really morphed into an unbelievable player. Never thought Iíd say it but Pacers may have won the PG trade.

It's crazy! Maturity does wonders for players. Confidence can carry you a long way too!
not playing next to Westbrook is big too.
Old post but I'm going to give you a TP for it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on December 12, 2017, 08:40:25 PM
The Detroit Pistons

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Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: wayupnorth on December 12, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Also Luwawu Cabarrot is truly awful.

I remember a poster on here saying that he was the equivalent to Jaylen Brown for a much lower pick. My goodness. Some sixer fan quotes for reference.

Quote

Bayliss plays like dog ****. Wish we traded him instead of sauce. He is horrible. Him and TLC can p--- off.

Furkan done more then Bayless and TLC from 1 shot.

I just hope this is the game Brown finally realises Holmes > Amir and Furkan > TLC+Bayless. Go home Bayless you're drunk.

Bayless and TLC. Just lol.

I love how there's no crowd so you can just hear Brett yelling constantly at TLC.

Can't be any worse then TLC. He is terrible. Can't hit open 3's, can't defend and turns it over.
 


I bet I know which poster.

He would still probably defend the position as well.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 12, 2017, 11:25:48 PM
Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 12, 2017, 11:29:05 PM
The difference in this game is really butler. The young guys on both teams are making mistakes but butler has taken over

Edit this game actually became really ugly in the 4th. This is the worst I have seen Simmons look. I think the 76ers young players may be trying to do too much for the national TV game. Lots of attempts at home run passes

And just like that they came together with some good plays. Back to a good game
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 12, 2017, 11:56:20 PM
Butler is a bad man out there tonight. Fun finish.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 13, 2017, 12:10:30 AM
Butler is a bad man out there tonight. Fun finish.

I really wish the Celtics had gotten him
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: D Dub on December 13, 2017, 12:16:26 AM
Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up. 

Couple rando observations.

Wiggins body language screams demoted.  Wouldnít surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.

Thibs team plays some bad d.  What is this zone crap they run?  What ever happened to straight man on man?   

Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters. 

Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 13, 2017, 01:39:24 AM
Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up. 

Couple rando observations.

Wiggins body language screams demoted.  Wouldnít surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.

Thibs team plays some bad d.  What is this zone crap they run?  What ever happened to straight man on man?   

Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters. 

Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.

Well the wolves Are in 4th place behind the Spurs, warriors and rockets. How much better do you think they should be?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on December 13, 2017, 06:28:58 AM
Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up. 

Couple rando observations.

Wiggins body language screams demoted.  Wouldnít surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.

Thibs team plays some bad d.  What is this zone crap they run?  What ever happened to straight man on man?   

Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters. 

Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.

Well the wolves Are in 4th place behind the Spurs, warriors and rockets. How much better do you think they should be?
I'd at least think they should be better, record wise, than the Pacers
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 13, 2017, 08:40:51 AM
Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up. 

Couple rando observations.

Wiggins body language screams demoted.  Wouldnít surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.

Thibs team plays some bad d.  What is this zone crap they run?  What ever happened to straight man on man?   

Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters. 

Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.

Well the wolves Are in 4th place behind the Spurs, warriors and rockets. How much better do you think they should be?
I'd at least think they should be better, record wise, than the Pacers
With Thibs coaching, they ought to be at least middle of the pack defensively. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 13, 2017, 02:17:53 PM
Good game on espn right now. Towns versus embiid
TP for the heads up. 

Couple rando observations.

Wiggins body language screams demoted.  Wouldnít surprise me if he pulls a Kyrie this offseason to get his superstar status back on track.

Thibs team plays some bad d.  What is this zone crap they run?  What ever happened to straight man on man?   

Or maybe their D is bad because they never take out their starters. 

Wolves really should be a lot better with all that talent.

Well the wolves Are in 4th place behind the Spurs, warriors and rockets. How much better do you think they should be?
I'd at least think they should be better, record wise, than the Pacers
With Thibs coaching, they ought to be at least middle of the pack defensively.

I think their biggest problem is definitely the minutes played by their starters. There was a good article on the Ringer about it. I do think they will maybe get a bit better over the course of the season as they are still fitting together a lot of new rotation pieces (Teague, Gibson, Buter, Crawford)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on December 14, 2017, 06:28:42 PM
The bulls best two man combo is Mirotic and Portis for a net +33 over 44 minutes.

 :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 14, 2017, 11:35:39 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

Cleveland has had the softest schedule in the league thus far, which seems to validate many of our feelings that Clevelandís recent run was a bit of a mirage.

However, all that is about to change. Theyíre about ready to start a stretch until March where theyíll play mostly playoff teams/contenders and the elite teams of the league (GS x2, BOS x 2, HOU, SAS). Theyíve got a pretty tough schedule until about the second week of March, and I see us putting some more separation in the standings during that time.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on December 15, 2017, 02:45:34 AM
The bulls best two man combo is Mirotic and Portis for a net +33 over 44 minutes.

 :o
You mean their best one-two punch?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 15, 2017, 03:41:14 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

Cleveland has had the softest schedule in the league thus far, which seems to validate many of our feelings that Clevelandís recent run was a bit of a mirage.

However, all that is about to change. Theyíre about ready to start a stretch until March where theyíll play mostly playoff teams/contenders and the elite teams of the league (GS x2, BOS x 2, HOU, SAS). Theyíve got a pretty tough schedule until about the second week of March, and I see us putting some more separation in the standings during that time.
Should be some interesting takes if IT comes back and the team starts to really struggle.

I think IT will be a bit rusty for a while, but the real reason for the struggles will be that Lebron knows he needs to chill at some point and the schedule will be way more difficult than its been.

If Boston can avoid any huge skids, I think we should finish with a better regular season record than Cleveland. They have a tough schedule and an old team.

Im actually kind of intrigued with Toronto.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on December 17, 2017, 08:58:05 PM
Okafor 20 minutes of gametime getting slaughtered before being sent to the DNP house by Brooklyn just like at Philly.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. We've got a bust here boys.
Clean, crispy bust.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 19, 2017, 09:34:11 PM
Kings beat the Sixers. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 19, 2017, 09:37:48 PM
Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on December 19, 2017, 10:03:18 PM
Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.

Very nice indeed!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on December 19, 2017, 10:04:14 PM
Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.

Oops, just checked and The Cavs have it down to 9...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jambr380 on December 19, 2017, 10:09:31 PM
Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.

Oops, just checked and The Cavs have it down to 9...

Lebron goes to the bench and the Cavs go on a 24-2 run and now have the lead...interesting.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 19, 2017, 10:13:38 PM
Sacramento beat Philly, and the Bucks putting a whooping on the Cavs in Milwaukee. This is turning into a pretty good night.

Oops, just checked and The Cavs have it down to 9...

Lebron goes to the bench and the Cavs go on a 24-2 run and now have the lead...interesting.

You can tell how young this Bucks team is. Had trouble dealing with that run and converted to all isolation/individual stuff offensively.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on December 19, 2017, 10:14:28 PM
Bucks were winning this game but it never seemed legit. Kidd wonít be back next year IMO.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 19, 2017, 10:19:27 PM
Snell!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jambr380 on December 19, 2017, 10:23:25 PM
I'm sure glad Lebron came back just in time to blow the game that his bench was winning  ;)

Unfortunately, I think he re-took the lead again in 'clutch points' over Kyrie.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on December 19, 2017, 10:24:40 PM
LeBron is a shooter now?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Jiri Welsch on December 19, 2017, 10:37:56 PM
Nice to see the Cavs drop one!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: csfansince60s on December 19, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
LeBron is a shooter now?

Always been a "shooter"......just no one has ever caught him! ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on December 19, 2017, 10:51:27 PM
Nice loss by The Cavs there...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 20, 2017, 03:06:53 PM
Embiid hurt again... will miss at least 4 games following them playing 48 minutes in okc game. Still not sure why they did that... https://www.libertyballers.com/2017/12/20/16801108/joel-embiid-may-not-play-until-christmas-sixers-76ers-knicks-porzingis-simmons-philadelphia
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 21, 2017, 11:24:44 PM
Looks like the Celtics aren't the best team in the East anymore.

Most fans would wait till we fell into second place, didn't have the best defense, weren't leading the conference in point differential etc, but by all means, hot take away!
Its not at all unreasonable to believe the Celtics arent the best team in the East, nor is it a hot take.

Cleveland is more talented than us and SHOULD  be better than us. the hot take would be to believe that a 17 game win streak DID make us the best team in the East.

We arent as good as our 18-4 record says and when the inevitable slump comes and we lose a couple game we wont be as bad as the doomsday gang will say we are then either.
Well here it is.

We've lost a few and aren't as bad as the doomsday gang says.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on December 25, 2017, 11:24:33 AM
Man, this NBA season has been wild.

Minnesota and OKC now the 4 and 5 seeds in the West? Dang...  :o

Felt like they were toiling a few weeks ago, oh how times change lol.

The thing is though, it feels like all the playoff teams are virtually set for each conference, barring a massive meltdown late in the season for a team or two. Like, the 9th seed in both conferences are like 2+ games behind (though still close), but after that the rest of them are bad teams/tankers for the most part. That's not to say they can't sneak in late in the season, but I wouldn't put my $$$ on it at the moment.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on December 25, 2017, 02:19:48 PM
Man, this NBA season has been wild.

Minnesota and OKC now the 4 and 5 seeds in the West? Dang...  :o

Felt like they were toiling a few weeks ago, oh how times change lol.

The thing is though, it feels like all the playoff teams are virtually set for each conference, barring a massive meltdown late in the season for a team or two. Like, the 9th seed in both conferences are like 2+ games behind (though still close), but after that the rest of them are bad teams/tankers for the most part. That's not to say they can't sneak in late in the season, but I wouldn't put my $$$ on it at the moment.

I saw it coming since the summer when Minnesota acquired Jimmy Butler, Jamal Crawford, Taj Gibson, and Jeff Teague. They would be a top 5 team in the West. OKC- obvious when they formed their own Big 3 of Russell Westbrook, Paul George, and Carmelo Anthony.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on December 25, 2017, 03:35:05 PM
76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on December 25, 2017, 04:04:51 PM
76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.

Probably the worst final 3 minutes of basketball ive ever seen from the Knicks. Just missed free throw after turnover after missed free throw. It was bad.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on December 25, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.

Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on December 25, 2017, 04:54:20 PM
Cavs are stinking it up on the offensive end in Golden State. Fun stuff because neither team can do much
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 25, 2017, 05:02:31 PM
Love is feasting on GSW.  These 2 teams are still in a league of their own.  Their size alone stands out.  Barring injury, GSW will be winning another chip this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 25, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
Old friend Crowder with a big shot there.  Man, this is GSW without Curry.  Unbelievably stacked.  For some reason, it's still jarring to see them play together.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 25, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.

Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.

Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 25, 2017, 05:44:34 PM
76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.

Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.

Lol

How can you be mean on Christmas? It's literally sacrilegious.  I'm sober and rooting for Kyrie Irving today.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on December 25, 2017, 06:13:14 PM
76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.

Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.

Lol

How can you be mean on Christmas? It's literally sacrilegious.  I'm sober and rooting for Kyrie Irving today.

Wait how is saying "lol" that someone described a close game as being pulverized mean? I literally thought it was funny and laughed about it
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 25, 2017, 06:22:01 PM
76ers pulverized Knicks in Christmas opener 105-98.

Pulverized? It was a 7 point differential and the game was tied with about 4 minutes to go.

Lol

How can you be mean on Christmas? It's literally sacrilegious.  I'm sober and rooting for Kyrie Irving today.

Wait how is saying "lol" that someone described a close game as being pulverized mean? I literally thought it was funny and laughed about it

I was referring to Freddie.   I just enjoy seeing your name in posts.  <3
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 26, 2017, 04:59:26 AM
LOL that was a CLEAR foul, Durant..

(http://www.golfian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Meme-Bruh-Photo.jpg)

Dude fouled LeBron James not ONCE but TWICE at the end, there.

ANYONE could see that.

Then he's going to put off by saying "He's too big...he's too big"....LOL!

LeBron James is the BEST player in the NBA, period.

Durant should just stop.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on December 27, 2017, 10:21:08 PM
Jeff Teague probably done for the year. Minny will need to look for PG help now.

Rozier for Shabazz?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on December 27, 2017, 10:40:50 PM
Rondo just dished 25 assists against the Nets. 4 players on the team scored 20 points or more.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on December 28, 2017, 12:00:26 AM
Interesting thing about Sac:

Their current bench (Carter, Cauley-Stein, Hield, Bogdanovic, Justin Jackson)

is probably as good if not better than their starters (Randolph, Frank Mason, Garret Temple, George Hill, Malachi Richardson)

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on December 28, 2017, 02:05:05 AM
Interesting thing about Sac:

Their current bench (Carter, Cauley-Stein, Hield, Bogdanovic, Justin Jackson)

is probably as good if not better than their starters (Randolph, Frank Mason, Garret Temple, George Hill, Malachi Richardson)
doesnt fox come off the bench too? thats a nice bench they got. their strategy seems to be to get a lead somehow with those vet starters, then extend it with their mostly young but very talented bench
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: A Future of Stevens on December 28, 2017, 06:03:32 AM
Rondo just dished 25 assists against the Nets. 4 players on the team scored 20 points or more.

It's crazy he did that while only scoring 2 pts
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 28, 2017, 03:27:36 PM
Quote
Free agent guard Gerald Green is finalizing a non-guaranteed deal to sign with the Houston Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/946470469024264193
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on December 29, 2017, 07:37:47 PM
Wiz got a 6 pt lead on rockets
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on December 29, 2017, 09:26:58 PM
And after facing a crushing defeat from Boston, the Rockets move on to fall to the Washington Wizards tonight. They have dropped 5 games in a row. What's Harden's excuse now?

Houston, you have a problem.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on December 29, 2017, 10:27:50 PM
Thunder got screwed on a non review where Greek Freek stepped out of bounds. Ouch
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2017, 10:20:23 PM
Donovan Mitchell is legit.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 30, 2017, 10:21:23 PM
Donovan Mitchell is a bad man.


EDIT:
Donovan Mitchell is legit.

Lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2017, 10:28:49 PM
Cavs lose third in a row!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on December 30, 2017, 10:34:11 PM
Has there been a Mitchell vs Tatum debate yet? lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on December 30, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
When it comes to killing people Mitchell might be a bad man, but Tatum is a professional, silent assassin.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 30, 2017, 10:48:01 PM
poor diva lost on his birthday ......life isn't fair
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on December 31, 2017, 12:58:06 AM
LeBron can't win in Utah.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: alley oop on December 31, 2017, 04:25:08 AM
Maybe it's the thin Salt Lake City air.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on January 01, 2018, 04:48:10 PM
Are we going for Tatum or Brown for the ASG?

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on January 01, 2018, 09:47:10 PM
The "super sikh" is having some quality minutes in this Bucks/Raps game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on January 01, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
Kris Dunn showing why a lot of Cbloggers wanted him..
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2018, 07:40:17 PM
On virtually any other night, I would love a Cavs loss. However, if they lose tonight theyíll be on a four game losing streak heading into a big, nationally-televised game in Boston. It certainly makes me wonder whether a Cavs win tonight is ultimately best for Boston, because I imagine Lebron will be locked in tomorrow night if theyíre still on a losing streak.

As for IT, heís certainly not shy in his first game back with 5 shot attempts in his first 4 minutes and 7 total in his first 6 minutes. Itíll be interesting to see how he adjusts to playing with both Love and Lebron, because he certainly wonít have that much free reign with his shot selection when he starts playing regularly with them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: PhoSita on January 02, 2018, 07:43:53 PM


As for IT, heís certainly not shy in his first game back with 5 shot attempts in his first 4 minutes and 7 total in his first 6 minutes.

I don't think he's ever gonna be shy about that, haha.

IT should help an already very good offensive team become even better on that end.

Currently Cleveland is #3 in offensive efficiency, with IT adding his scoring I suspect they'll inch closer to #2 (GSW) and may even challenge for #1 (Houston), especially with Harden missing time.

At the same time, Cleveland is currently 28th in defensive efficiency, so with IT playing significant minutes I wouldn't be shocked if they fell to 30th even as they inch toward #1 in offense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 02, 2018, 07:52:57 PM
Lebron just got called for a travel.

felt it was newsworthy.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: apc on January 02, 2018, 07:53:25 PM
Cavs are just stacked .
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2018, 07:54:16 PM
Lebron just got called for a travel.

felt it was newsworthy.

Did you see that shameless flop of the year candidate that he had right before that? Lol Dude acted like he just got hit by lightning!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2018, 08:02:46 PM
Itís pretty hilarious that Lebron is mad at anyone about flopping after that Oscar-worthy performance he put up earlier.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 02, 2018, 08:10:01 PM
The Cavaliers with Isaiah are a fantastic offensive team that can score a ton. Problem is, their defense is still BAD and other teams will put up a ton of points on them too (Portland has like 56 points at halftime vs. them)

Cleveland should still get through the East relatively easy, but against Golden State I frankly think they'll get beat even worse because of that defense (unless they make some major trade).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2018, 08:37:53 PM
The Cavaliers with Isaiah are a fantastic offensive team that can score a ton. Problem is, their defense is still BAD and other teams will put up a ton of points on them too (Portland has like 56 points at halftime vs. them)

Cleveland should still get through the East relatively easy, but against Golden State I frankly think they'll get beat even worse because of that defense (unless they make some major trade).

They might still be the (slight) favorites with a healthy IT if Hayward doesnít come back by then, but this will definitely be their most difficult Eastern playoffs, especially if they stay in the third position without HCA. Unlike in previous years with Kyrie, theyíll now have to gameplan for IT mismatches, which given Lueís/this teamís defensive track record, doesnít look like something they are capable of doing, especially in an East that boasts big, offensively talented guards and tons of mismatch opportunities.

Remember how bad Toronto and Washington abused ITís size last season and into the playoffs? Theyíre not going to be able to simply outscore their opponents in the playoffs. If the top-3 would stay as is, Iíd like to see them draw one of Milwaukee, Detroit, or Washington in the first round, which would set up an incredibly difficult path to the Finals for them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 02, 2018, 08:52:47 PM
cavs and IT cruzing to a victory tonight .....NO Problemo
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 02, 2018, 08:56:17 PM
cavs and IT cruzing to a victory tonight .....NO Problemo

I don't think they are cruising. Cavs are having a tough time with the Blazers.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on January 02, 2018, 08:58:32 PM
Cavs look scary good with IT3 back.

Was this trade worth it after all?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 02, 2018, 08:59:08 PM
cavs and IT cruzing to a victory tonight .....NO Problemo

I don't think they are cruising. Cavs are having a tough time with the Blazers.

they cruise with napier out there.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on January 02, 2018, 08:59:33 PM
Cavs look scary good with IT3 back.

Was this trade worth it after all?

 One game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on January 02, 2018, 08:59:33 PM
First game back and he's looking good. You can tell he's playing cautious right now until he finds his rhythm again.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: G-Bones on January 02, 2018, 09:02:51 PM
Yes. The trade was another smart move by Ainge.  IT is damaged and a free agent next year.  The pick is declining in value.  And, Crowder and Zizic were just salary cap throw-ins. Meanwhile, Kyrie is a star who can be the number one scoring option on a championship winner. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 02, 2018, 09:03:39 PM
Cavs look scary good with IT3 back.

Was this trade worth it after all?

Let's wait till they actually face elite teams like the Spurs or Warriors. Their defense is still suspect.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on January 02, 2018, 09:08:25 PM
Cavs look scary good with IT3 back.

Was this trade worth it after all?

Yes. The trade was about the future not this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 02, 2018, 09:15:01 PM
The trade is DONE. OVER. CANT GO BACK. GET OVER IT. It4 is a good player, Cavs will be good with another good player. I know you guys want the trade to mean that it4 is now going to be bad but it doesn't! DA said from the beginning that IT(3) would come back but that it would take longer than they expected. He didn't trade him because he thought he would never play nor be good again! He actually said the opposite.

IT4 is almost 30 and looking for a fat check and Kyrie is 25, there is your main reasons the trade happened.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 09:17:16 PM
honestly with how well Kyrie has played, I don't even worry at this point if we 'won' or 'lost' the trade.  we have a great team, a great core to add to with GH coming back next year, and maybe the lakers pick. 

best of luck to IT, hope he gets back to fully healthy.  he certainly didn't look super mobile tonight.  He hit shots, good for him.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 02, 2018, 09:18:54 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on January 02, 2018, 09:20:19 PM
Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 02, 2018, 09:21:57 PM
I wish IT would have played us but let's think about it, would you want to play Smart your first or first couple games back? He wants to work himself back into it, not into a brick wall like Smaht!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 09:22:49 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto

maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers.  that isn't going to happen though.  he is going to start.  I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 02, 2018, 09:26:02 PM
How many games do the Cavs take off GS this year? One or zero?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 09:28:06 PM
How many games do the Cavs take off GS this year? One or zero?

haha I am not convinced that they even make it that far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 02, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto

maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers.  that isn't going to happen though.  he is going to start.  I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 09:35:00 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto

maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers.  that isn't going to happen though.  he is going to start.  I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)

lol that wasn't what I meant.  The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts.  Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: footey on January 02, 2018, 09:40:07 PM
Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2018, 09:40:42 PM
Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud

On the second night of a back to back, no less.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 02, 2018, 09:43:51 PM
Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.

2nd that. But that was true even before GH went down.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on January 02, 2018, 09:43:53 PM
Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.

That's before or after Isaiah moves to the starting lineup?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 09:48:01 PM
Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.

It certainly looks like it.  Good jeff green, amped IT, rested D Wade, T Thompson slamming the boards.  Do we have a decent counter for those guys?  IT will be starting so he wont be coming off the bench.

JGreen - Morris
Calderon - Rozier
Wade - Smart
T Thompson - Baynes / Theis

We match up better with the Cavs versus last years squad.   Our team just needs to start to gel a bit more, and get over the hump with these nagging injuries.

I think we match up ok with the Cavs except for Lebron. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mctyson on January 02, 2018, 09:51:02 PM
Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.

It certainly looks like it.  Good jeff green, amped IT, rested D Wade, T Thompson slamming the boards.  Do we have a decent counter for those guys?  IT will be starting so he wont be coming off the bench.

JGreen - Morris
Calderon - Rozier
Wade - Smart
T Thompson - Baynes / Theis

We match up better with the Cavs versus last years squad.   Our team just needs to start to gel a bit more, and get over the hump with these nagging injuries.

I think we match up ok with the Cavs except for Lebron.

Just curious...who on the Cavs defends Kyrie?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 09:52:01 PM
Cavs bench is much better than ours. Reality.

It certainly looks like it.  Good jeff green, amped IT, rested D Wade, T Thompson slamming the boards.  Do we have a decent counter for those guys?  IT will be starting so he wont be coming off the bench.

JGreen - Morris
Calderon - Rozier
Wade - Smart
T Thompson - Baynes / Theis

We match up better with the Cavs versus last years squad.   Our team just needs to start to gel a bit more, and get over the hump with these nagging injuries.

I think we match up ok with the Cavs except for Lebron.

Just curious...who on the Cavs defends Kyrie?

That would be IT....lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 02, 2018, 09:52:54 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto

maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers.  that isn't going to happen though.  he is going to start.  I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)

lol that wasn't what I meant.  The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts.  Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 09:55:05 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto

maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers.  that isn't going to happen though.  he is going to start.  I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)

lol that wasn't what I meant.  The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts.  Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.

Ok, just stop it with your logic and common sense.  :)

In my mind what I was comparing was IT shots per game with us last year, and what he might get this year.  Is IT going to average 19 shots a game with Lebron and Love?  Maybe, but maybe not.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 02, 2018, 09:56:46 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto

maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers.  that isn't going to happen though.  he is going to start.  I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)

lol that wasn't what I meant.  The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts.  Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.

Ok, just stop it with your logic and common sense. 

In my mind what I was comparing was IT shots per game with us last year, and what he might get this year.  Is IT going to average 19 shots a game with Lebron and Love?  Maybe, but maybe not.
TP
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 02, 2018, 10:00:12 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto

maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers.  that isn't going to happen though.  he is going to start.  I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)

lol that wasn't what I meant.  The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts.  Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.

Ok, just stop it with your logic and common sense.  :)

In my mind what I was comparing was IT shots per game with us last year, and what he might get this year.  Is IT going to average 19 shots a game with Lebron and Love?  Maybe, but maybe not.

I don't think he should - Kevin Love has been fantastic for them so far this season. Easily the most comfortable he's looked in Cleveland, I think you have to keep him involved offensively which should mean less shots for IT. Will that happen? Idk.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 10:01:29 PM
19 minutes and 16 points tonight for IT. When he is fully back watch for a very long Cavs winning streak where they overtake Boston and Toronto

maybe if the cavs keep him coming off the bench playing against 2nd stringers.  that isn't going to happen though.  he is going to start.  I think his impact is going to be smaller when he is starting.
Right, because IT scored all his points versus bench scrubs last year. ::)

lol that wasn't what I meant.  The C's didn't have Lebron last year, so that might have just a smidge impact on his usage / shot attempts.  Then again, maybe I am crazy?
Kyrie led Cleveland in usage% last year. I am sure Lebron would give plenty of on the ball time to IT to get his 25+ PPG and 6APG. He did for Kyrie.

Ok, just stop it with your logic and common sense. 

In my mind what I was comparing was IT shots per game with us last year, and what he might get this year.  Is IT going to average 19 shots a game with Lebron and Love?  Maybe, but maybe not.
TP

Right back at ya.  IT shot lights out tonight.  Let's see if he can get his mobility back to almost 100% before the playoffs, who knows how bad that hip really is? 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on January 02, 2018, 10:08:49 PM
Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud

The #7 seeded Blazers.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on January 02, 2018, 10:15:23 PM
Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud

The #7 seeded Blazers.

Sure, but the Cavs were at home, hadn't played since Saturday, and the Blazers were on the second night of a back-to-back and that game went to OT.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2018, 10:17:02 PM
Cue the overreactions. They're playing the god dang Blazers for crying out loud

The #7 seeded Blazers, who are 19-18, playing in Cleveland, on the second night of a back to back coming off of an OVERTIME game last night, and having Lillard just coming back from a four game absence.

FTFY.  ;)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 02, 2018, 10:36:20 PM
IT will extract his revenge and sign his Brinks deals
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 04, 2018, 09:54:54 PM
Anyone else watching gerald green making it rain 3s ?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on January 04, 2018, 10:12:53 PM
Anyone else watching gerald green making it rain 3s ?

Yep...give me Green over Nader each and every day please.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 04, 2018, 10:15:07 PM
Anyone else watching gerald green making it rain 3s ?

Yep...give me Green over Nader each and every day please.
took the words right out of my mouth
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 04, 2018, 10:25:39 PM
I can't stand how Houston plays. Virtually all they do is jack up threes. The Warriors at least regularly get to the basket.

I think they're essentially a good regular season team that won't cut it in the playoffs. I think I'd put GS, SAS, and even OKC above them in a seven game series.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 04, 2018, 10:40:18 PM
I can't stand how Houston plays. Virtually all they do is jack up threes. The Warriors at least regularly get to the basket.

I think they're essentially a good regular season team that won't cut it in the playoffs. I think I'd put GS, SAS, and even OKC above them in a seven game series.

agree ,  Houston s game makes my skin crawl.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on January 04, 2018, 10:44:02 PM
I can't stand how Houston plays. Virtually all they do is jack up threes. The Warriors at least regularly get to the basket.

I think they're essentially a good regular season team that won't cut it in the playoffs. I think I'd put GS, SAS, and even OKC above them in a seven game series.

Unless they stay incredibly hot from behind the arc they are second round playoff fodder at best. Shooting over 45 threes a game is not conducive to the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: greece666 on January 05, 2018, 06:30:38 AM
All Star voting so far. Not sure how many reserves get in, but Tatum has the best chances of our two rookies. http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/04/2018-nba-all-star-voting-first-returns-revealed#/

Eastern Conference

Frontcourt

1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) 863,416
2. LeBron James (CLE) 856,080
3. Joel Embiid (PHI) 433,161
4. Kristaps Porzingis (NYK) 359,459
5. Kevin Love (CLE) 221,969
6. Al Horford (BOS) 120,016
7. Jayson Tatum (BOS) 98,586
8. Andre Drummond (DET) 85,374
9. Enes Kanter (NYK) 83,102
10. Dwight Howard (CHA) 57,730

Guards

1. Kyrie Irving (BOS) 802,834
2. DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 259,368
3. Victor Oladipo (IND) 251,886
4. Ben Simmons (PHI) 210,085
5. John Wall (WAS) 175,990
6. Dwyane Wade (CLE) 165,163
7. Isaiah Thomas (CLE) 87,680
8. Kyle Lowry (TOR) 85,070
9.  Bradley Beal (WAS) 71,079
10. Jaylen Brown (BOS) 51,562

Western Conference

Frontcourt

1. Kevin Durant (GSW) 767,402
2. Anthony Davis (NOP) 393,000
3. DeMarcus Cousins (NOP) 356,340
4. Draymond Green (GSW) 325,612
5. Paul George (OKC) 291,495
6. Kawhi Leonard (SAS) 212,650
7. Carmelo Anthony (OKC) 194,239
8. Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) 188,240
9. Kyle Kuzma (LAL) 184,338
10. LaMarcus Aldridge (SAS) 153,599

Guards

1. Stephen Curry (GSW) 735,115
2. James Harden (HOU) 602,040
3. Russell Westbrook (OKC) 438,469
4. Klay Thompson (GSW) 359,442
5. Manu Ginobili (SAS) 231,460
6. Chris Paul (HOU) 174,343
7. Damian Lillard (POR) 148,622
8. Lonzo Ball (LAL) 120,817
9. Devin Booker (PHO) 91,562
10. Jimmy Butler (MIN) 88,009
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: apc on January 05, 2018, 08:20:37 AM
Wow!! Gianis lead, I didnít know he was so popular .
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 05, 2018, 09:07:17 AM
Wow!! Gianis lead, I didnít know he was so popular .
Why wouldn't he be?  Best young player in the league with an exciting playing style and having an MVP caliber season.  If you're tired of the old guard, he's a breath of fresh air.  I think in the travesty of an allstar game last year he at least attempted to play some defense. 

Hopefully Giannis will maintain a top 2 spot so he'll be one of the captains who gets to pick the sides.  I'd like to see him and Embiid on the same team. 


Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ChillyWilly on January 05, 2018, 09:25:15 AM
I haven't watched an AllStar game since Dee Brown pumped them up. For whatever reason All Star games do nothing for me. We see these players nonstop on ESPN (2000s I'm aware they just show reality TV these days) Youtube clips and all over the internet.

Maybe all star games had a purpose when you only got 4 channels and you only got to see star players a few times a year if they played your team.

I guess I've reached the point in my life where everything is "Get off my lawn" & "back in my day"  :-X
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 06, 2018, 01:03:27 PM
Quote
The Rockets terminated Demetrius Jackson's two-way contract. He will sign a 10-day contract, but does not appear in team's plans. Will be assigned to RGV, source said, and play in G League Showcase during his 10-day.

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/949691267981684737
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 06, 2018, 02:25:40 PM
Sixers signed James Young to a 2-way contract. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 06, 2018, 09:19:26 PM
Kind of watching the Pelicans-Timberwolves game now. That is a crazy color for a jersey.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 06, 2018, 09:51:38 PM
Jae Crowder is having the worst season of his career. He's not even playing good defense, as partly evident by the Cavs being the third worst defensive team in the NBA. Probably second worst after tonight.

It doesn't really matter I guess since the Warriors are unbeatable this season anyway.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 06, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
Pelicans getting creamed so far. Wolves are up 91-60 with 2 mins left in the 3rd.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 06, 2018, 10:45:22 PM
Wondering when the Pellies are going to learn that Cousins is a loser and just because you are pairing him up with AD doesn't mean you have a winning team. The Pellies are not a playoff team. Two of the 10 best players in the league by stats and yet they are a .500 team at best. I think that speaks volumes about those players
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on January 06, 2018, 11:07:13 PM
Windering when the Pellies are gou g to learn that Cousins is a loser and just because you are pairing him up with AD doesn't mean you have a winning team. The Pellues are not a playoff team. Two of the 10 best players in the league by stats and yet they are a .500 team at best. I think that speaks volumes about those players

The Pelicans are 8th seed right now.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on January 06, 2018, 11:13:38 PM
Windering when the Pellies are gou g to learn that Cousins is a loser and just because you are pairing him up with AD doesn't mean you have a winning team. The Pellues are not a playoff team. Two of the 10 best players in the league by stats and yet they are a .500 team at best. I think that speaks volumes about those players

The Pelicans are 8th seed right now.

Only because the Clippers have the worst medical staff in the NBA.  (I have no idea if thatís true, but given how much their team gets injured every single year, Iíve decided they must be.)

The Pels will not make the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 07, 2018, 12:06:44 AM
Kings needs to hold on with the lead.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on January 07, 2018, 07:11:48 AM
IT highlights vs. the Magic.  He looks good and he will make life easier for the Cavs on offense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc63btaLJs0
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on January 07, 2018, 07:20:59 AM
Isaiah looks great.

I wish him the best.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 07, 2018, 08:36:40 AM
Cavs offense looks good but the defense have left alot to be desired. They let a terrible offensive team like Magic score 127 on them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on January 08, 2018, 05:21:50 AM
JJ Barea is having yet another under-the-radar season.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bareajo01.html

For a guy that is listed at 6 feet (very generous height measurement IMO), to be doing these things year in and year out, for me is a proof that he is a fantastic basketball talent.
He is an NBA champ and it is not accidentally.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: matteo on January 08, 2018, 08:43:54 PM
Minny up 45-24 on cavs midway through the 2cd
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on January 08, 2018, 08:52:32 PM
Minny up 45-24 on cavs midway through the 2cd

Yeah, IT 0-7 so far tonight
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 08, 2018, 08:58:22 PM
Pacers routing the Bucks early in the 4th early in the 4th.  Oladipo with a really nice step back to beat the buzzer at the end of the 3rd.

Are the Bucks as good as we thought earlier in the year?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 08, 2018, 09:00:13 PM
JJ Barea is having yet another under-the-radar season.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bareajo01.html

For a guy that is listed at 6 feet (very generous height measurement IMO), to be doing these things year in and year out, for me is a proof that he is a fantastic basketball talent.
He is an NBA champ and it is not accidentally.
Barea was in one of my classes at Northeastern. he was like 5'6. very short but genuinely nice guy
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: matteo on January 08, 2018, 09:04:47 PM
wow that buzzer beater by butler!  up 27
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Jiri Welsch on January 08, 2018, 09:05:31 PM
Keep an eye on the Nets. They have a chance!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on January 08, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
Pacers routing the Bucks early in the 4th early in the 4th.  Oladipo with a really nice step back to beat the buzzer at the end of the 3rd.

Are the Bucks as good as we thought earlier in the year?

It depends how good you thought the Bucks were.  Theyíre a better version of last yearís team due to more experience, and they can beat anyone.  But they are also inconsistent and put up some real duds from time to time.  Their last several games have been:

Beat Wolves at home
Beat Thunder on road
Lost at Toronto in OT
Crushed Indiana at home
Blown out by Toronto at home
Beat Wizards on road
Now getting blown out by Indiana on road

Thatís a tough stretch vs likely playoff teams.  Theyíll come out 4-3.  Of course, the two games immediately preceding this were losses to Charlotte and Chicago.  And they beat Cleveland right before those bad losses.

So yeah, Milwaukee could be a dangerous team in the playoffs.  But they could also get bounced in the 1st round as a 4-seed, and are unlikely to earn any better seeding than that.  Similar to Washington in that regard.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Gerald Green is having another electric game. He's lost on defense like usual though.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 08, 2018, 09:21:19 PM
Cavs getting murdered by the Timberwolves. I guess father time is catching that team up.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 08, 2018, 09:23:42 PM
Wolves decimating the Cavs 71-47. Their defense is just beyond terrible and cannot contain the Wolves. Itíll be really interesting to see how they play against the Raptors in their upcoming game, who could present all kinds of troubles for this yearís Cleveland squad.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 08, 2018, 09:28:24 PM
Wolves decimating the Cavs 71-47. Their defense is just beyond terrible and cannot contain the Wolves. Itíll be really interesting to see how they play against the Raptors in their upcoming game, who could present all kinds of troubles for this yearís Cleveland squad.

The overreaction from the Portland game seems humorous. They will definitely be up and down for a while
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 08, 2018, 09:35:09 PM
Wow, what a dirty, punk move by IT there. That was Andrew Bynum/JJ Barea level dirty.

He'll be suspended for a game or two in addition to that flagrant two call. What a d bag move. That was a straight throat shot to Wiggins.

This Cavs team lacks heart and character. They're getting completely punked out there losing by 40, and their body language is terrible.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 08, 2018, 09:37:36 PM
IT has spent less than 4 months with Wade and he's already doing cheap shots?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: MJohnnyboy on January 08, 2018, 09:40:22 PM
Did IT ever do something like that in Boston?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 08, 2018, 09:40:33 PM
Cavs down 41 and IT got ejected
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on January 08, 2018, 09:40:54 PM
Anthony Davis just rolled his ankle coming down from an alley-oop finish attempt. He was fouled on the play.

He was uninjured enough to shoot his two free throws, but then intentionally fouled Tolliver as the ball moved up the court so that he could limp off the court and go to the locker room to get checked out.

I'm not a hot take type of guy, but that rubbed me the wrong way.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 08, 2018, 09:45:29 PM
That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT.  Completely deserved to be ejected.   Lets see what his fine is going to be.  Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 08, 2018, 09:46:25 PM
That Cavs/Wolves game is just one loss for The Cavs but it should count as two! Wow, what a beat down.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 08, 2018, 09:52:04 PM
Cavs/Wolves 67-102 is a 35 point lead at the end of the third.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on January 08, 2018, 09:53:45 PM
That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT.  Completely deserved to be ejected.   Lets see what his fine is going to be.  Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.

Yeah, that was a pretty ****ty move by IT. Pretty surprising for him imo.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 08, 2018, 09:57:56 PM
Overtime in Brooklyn. Derozan missed the three at the buzzer. Crabbe hopefully is okay.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Roy H. on January 08, 2018, 10:05:29 PM
Anthony Davis just rolled his ankle coming down from an alley-oop finish attempt. He was fouled on the play.

He was uninjured enough to shoot his two free throws, but then intentionally fouled Tolliver as the ball moved up the court so that he could limp off the court and go to the locker room to get checked out.

I'm not a hot take type of guy, but that rubbed me the wrong way.

Why so?

It sounds like a smart enough play to me. Any other decision and his team potentially loses points.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 08, 2018, 10:08:41 PM
Lowry hurt and being carried off.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 08, 2018, 10:09:03 PM
Oh man, Lowry just took a HARD fall on his back from several feet in the air. He might've fractured his back; it was that hard. He tried walking and couldn't even do it on his own.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 08, 2018, 10:09:56 PM
That's a nasty fall by Lowry. Yeah, a bad back can really screw your whole body strength. Im suffering on the same problem and couldn't walk properly.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jambr380 on January 08, 2018, 10:12:41 PM
Looking like a rough finish from the Cs perspective. BKN definitely didn't get the calls down the stretch - Dinwiddie got destroyed by Ibaka on that dunk attempt and Ibaka was all over Acy on the loose ball that led to the jump ball.

Anyway, hope Lowry is okay - that was a hard fall, but maybe it will just be a stinger.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Roy H. on January 08, 2018, 10:13:49 PM
That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT.  Completely deserved to be ejected.   Lets see what his fine is going to be.  Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.

I canít even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 08, 2018, 10:22:40 PM
No idea what IT was thinkingówasn't even a "basketball play." And also no idea what Lowry was thinkingóhe had no chance at blocking that shot, and was even on the wrong side of the rim.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Larry for 3 on January 08, 2018, 10:34:17 PM
That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT.  Completely deserved to be ejected.   Lets see what his fine is going to be.  Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.

I canít even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?

IT has been tossed 4 times in his career, heís no angel.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Roy H. on January 08, 2018, 10:47:05 PM
That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT.  Completely deserved to be ejected.   Lets see what his fine is going to be.  Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.

I canít even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?

IT has been tossed 4 times in his career, heís no angel.

How many of those were for flagrant fouls, rather than techs?

IT generally isnít a dirty player, heís a mouthy one. His slap / chip / clothesline here is just strange, because thereís no apparent basketball reason for it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Larry for 3 on January 08, 2018, 10:54:12 PM
That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT.  Completely deserved to be ejected.   Lets see what his fine is going to be.  Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.

I canít even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?

IT has been tossed 4 times in his career, heís no angel.

How many of those were for flagrant fouls, rather than techs?

IT generally isnít a dirty player, heís a mouthy one. His slap / chip / clothesline here is just strange, because thereís no apparent basketball reason for it.

Itís not much of a leap to go from mouthy to a flagrant.  heís playing for a contract ,probably frustrated at his injury , getting smoked in the game , still probably wants to be in Boston. Easy leap really
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 08, 2018, 11:35:40 PM
Hawks effort on defense is embarrassing against LAC without Griffin. Is Coach Budís job safe?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 08, 2018, 11:45:29 PM
Hawks effort on defense is embarrassing against LAC without Griffin. Is Coach Budís job safe?
Definitely.

They are tanking and he is one of the top 10 coaches in the league
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 08, 2018, 11:55:12 PM
Hawks effort on defense is embarrassing against LAC without Griffin. Is Coach Budís job safe?
Definitely.

They are tanking and he is one of the top 10 coaches in the league

Cool.

Kings up 89-82 on Spurs (missing Leonard, Green, Manu) with 6:53 to go.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 09, 2018, 12:15:47 AM
Talk about a choke, Kings  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 09, 2018, 12:28:19 AM
Hawks just took their first lead. 88-84 now!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Androslav on January 09, 2018, 02:28:01 AM
That looked like a pretty dirtbag move by IT.  Completely deserved to be ejected.   Lets see what his fine is going to be.  Cavs probaby don't care if he gets suspended because he is out every other game anyway.

I can’t even figure out what he was attempting there. Was he anticipating Wiggins was going to jump?

IT has been tossed 4 times in his career, he’s no angel.

How many of those were for flagrant fouls, rather than techs?

IT generally isn’t a dirty player, he’s a mouthy one. His slap / chip / clothesline here is just strange, because there’s no apparent basketball reason for it.
I see a basketball reason for it, they were down 30 and he was frustrated to the point of a lesser self-control. If they were up 30 he'd be all smiles and high fives. I don't expect something similar from him, at least not this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 09, 2018, 08:25:03 PM
A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 09, 2018, 09:46:11 PM
A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.



It's going to be really tight!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 09, 2018, 09:50:01 PM
A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.



It's going to be really tight!

cmon Heat!  gonna be tough 57 sec left and Tor has the ball and a 1 point lead.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 09, 2018, 09:55:51 PM
A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.



It's going to be really tight!




cmon Heat!  gonna be tough 57 sec left and Tor has the ball and a 1 point lead.


NICE!  Great win by the Heat....
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 09, 2018, 09:57:11 PM
Now we need an LA loss and it will be an excellent night!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 09, 2018, 10:00:05 PM
Now we need an LA loss and it will be an excellent night!

We need an Orlando win too to make more separation against the Lakers.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 09, 2018, 10:02:29 PM
A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.



It's going to be really tight!




cmon Heat!  gonna be tough 57 sec left and Tor has the ball and a 1 point lead.


NICE!  Great win by the Heat....

whooohooo!  didn't think they were going to pull it out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 09, 2018, 10:55:17 PM
A Heat win will create more separation for us from Raptors.



It's going to be really tight!




cmon Heat!  gonna be tough 57 sec left and Tor has the ball and a 1 point lead.


NICE!  Great win by the Heat....

whooohooo!  didn't think they were going to pull it out.

Me either. That was exciting.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 09, 2018, 10:56:20 PM
Lakers are off to a quick start and the Kings stink.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Atzar on January 11, 2018, 12:31:12 AM
Pretty good game between the Warriors and Clippers going on right now.  97-90 Clips at the end of 3.  Lou Williams has 40.  Durant with 32.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 11, 2018, 01:44:48 AM
Lou finished the game with 50. Its safe to say that he won't come cheap.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on January 11, 2018, 05:03:42 AM
Lou finished the game with 50. Its safe to say that he won't come cheap.

Heís not getting traded.  Clippers would rather make the playoffs.  Theyíre 2.5 games back of 5th despite all their injuries.  People here like to bash Doc, but heís done a good job holding that team together this season.  Theyíre 8-3 over the last 11, and should have Blake back soon.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on January 11, 2018, 06:05:35 AM
Lou finished the game with 50. Its safe to say that he won't come cheap.

Heís not getting traded.  Clippers would rather make the playoffs.  Theyíre 2.5 games back of 5th despite all their injuries.  People here like to bash Doc, but heís done a good job holding that team together this season.  Theyíre 8-3 over the last 11, and should have Blake back soon.

Totally agree. I'm on the record in several threads saying the Clips will be fine. I did not expect this Tyrone Wallace kid to break out (didn't even know who he is tbh)

They would be a nasty first round out for the Rockets or the Spurinos..
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Redz on January 11, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Too funny. I was going to post a Lou Williams offensive oddity thread last night (before his game).  But I got lazy and didn't know if it would be interesting to anyone but me, so I didnt. 

I don't know that many 31 year olds have had the type of career scoring year that he's having.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 11, 2018, 08:52:43 PM
Cavs not putting any resistance against the Raptors so far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 11, 2018, 08:52:47 PM
This is the third game in a row that Cleveland is getting demolished by a good opponent, especially their defense. And Toronto doesn't even have Lowry or Ibaka playing!

IT is having a dreadful night, too - 0-8 with 1 TO and terrible defense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: matteo on January 11, 2018, 08:54:24 PM
cavs getting rolled again, down 23 to toronto w/o lowry and ibaka...i kinda wanted toronto to lose this one..oh well i'll take it
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 11, 2018, 08:55:09 PM
Matador defense by KLove out there. lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on January 11, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
Cavs defense is just so bad.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: TheisTheisBaby on January 11, 2018, 09:20:02 PM
Outside of a Celtics win not much gives me happiness like seeing the Cavs get whooped. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: cman88 on January 11, 2018, 09:21:19 PM
cavs defense is horrible. Even if they make it out of the east they will get shellacked by the warriors.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 11, 2018, 09:22:52 PM
Wow. This has to be embarrassing as a Cavs fan. They've legitimately given up and look like they simply don't care out there anymore.

Hell, even IT, who generally plays with a ton of swagger, looks timid and defeated out there.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 11, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
cavs defense is horrible. Even if they make it out of the east they will get shellacked by the warriors.

I was just coming in to say that exact same thing.  They are putrid on def.  Amazingly embarrassingly bad.  It makes me really happy!

75-42 Toronto over Clev right now.   
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 11, 2018, 09:23:36 PM
Lebron going to demand for more help now and demand to trade away that BKN Pick  :laugh:

Just too bad Cousins is likely NOT available, and even DeAndre Jordan might not be dealt (depending on how seriously the Clippers feel about wanting to make the playoffs this year).

Other than that, what big man can the Cavs get who could thread the needle even a little? Not many to be honest.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 11, 2018, 09:30:48 PM
No more slacking off for LeGM. He have to grind for every win now and then.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: cman88 on January 11, 2018, 09:31:33 PM
cavs defense is horrible. Even if they make it out of the east they will get shellacked by the warriors.

I was just coming in to say that exact same thing.  They are putrid on def.  Amazingly embarrassingly bad.  It makes me really happy!

75-42 Toronto over Clev right now.

that is amazingly bad. they look defeated and I don't see how they fix it. its been like this all season.

if cavs end up the #3 seed. It may take a herculean effort for Lebron to drag a team with this defense to the finals. I dont see how Lebron doesnt bounce.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on January 11, 2018, 09:36:52 PM
IT4 not a pivotal factor tonight?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 11, 2018, 09:38:36 PM
No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 11, 2018, 09:39:39 PM
IT4 not a pivotal factor tonight?

pivotally bad ha ha
2-15 from the field.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: cman88 on January 11, 2018, 09:41:26 PM
IT4 not a pivotal factor tonight?

he has 4 points on 2-15 shooting so far and 0-6 from 3.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 11, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.

Call me crazy, but I think Boston could "steal" a home game from Golden State in a hypothetical Finals with good defense and hopefully a career night from someone.

But yeah, Warriors would have an extremely easy series win.

Frankly, this Cleveland team looks worse than last year ESPECIALLY ON DEFENSE. They may still get through the East (although with more bumps and bruises from their foes), but I could see Golden State sweeping them and winning every game by 20+.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: cman88 on January 11, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
Theres no doubt Lebron is leaving the cavs this summer. He left Miami when they were in better shape than this(they just lost a finals series, but the writing was on the wall).

Team has no flexibility to add players, is old and plays no defense. Will be interesting to see if the Cavs look to move the brooklyn pick to appease lebron.

and people wonder why Kyrie Irving asked out of there!!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 11, 2018, 09:47:22 PM
No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.

Call me crazy, but I think Boston could "steal" a home game from Golden State in a hypothetical Finals with good defense and hopefully a career night from someone.

But yeah, Warriors would have an extremely easy series win.

Frankly, this Cleveland team looks worse than last year ESPECIALLY ON DEFENSE. They may still get through the East (although with more bumps and bruises from their foes), but I could see Golden State sweeping them and winning every game by 20+.

Warriors are beatable once you impose physicality on them. Slow down their pace and they will look mortal. Curry doesn't always perform well on the biggest stage. And we also know Durant is a mental midget.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 11, 2018, 09:49:32 PM
No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.

? I don't understand this mentality about GS. We've legitimately played them better than any other team for the last three years, and we literally beat them already at full health this season.

It'd be a closer series than people think, especially if we're fully healthy (minus Hayward). I actually think with Hayward we would beat them in a series.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 11, 2018, 09:49:57 PM
VanVleet from Toronto looks good tonight.  When did he get so good?
He is looking good.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 11, 2018, 09:51:44 PM
Man, Crowder is just a non-factor in Cleveland. Sad to see.

He's doing decent tonight (11 points on 4-7 shooting), but he's averaging 8 points and 3 rebounds a game in 26 minutes/game. Also Cavaliers fans are complaining that his defense just isn't as great. Though I can understand the last part since to be honest, his defense seemed to be a lot worse for the C's last year (took a hit from his defense here 2 years ago).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on January 11, 2018, 09:53:24 PM
Theres no doubt Lebron is leaving the cavs this summer. He left Miami when they were in better shape than this(they just lost a finals series, but the writing was on the wall).

Team has no flexibility to add players, is old and plays no defense. Will be interesting to see if the Cavs look to move the brooklyn pick to appease lebron.

and people wonder why Kyrie Irving asked out of there!!

LeBron to the Lakers is slowly becoming a reality...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Kuberski33 on January 11, 2018, 09:53:35 PM
I would hold off on any judgments on the Cavs until IT gets his legs back. Teams tend to play a lot harder when shots are actually going in the basket.  But man does Crowder look terrible.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 11, 2018, 09:54:18 PM
The Cavs with IT look really bad. They are down by 28 to the Raps. I guess they need to work Thomas in to their rotations. It would probably be best to bring him off the bench as a scorer but he probably would be really mad as he is looking for that Brinks truck this off season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: TheisTheisBaby on January 11, 2018, 09:57:41 PM
I'll always have love for IT4 but unless something drastic happens it looks more and more like Brad's system is what made him look so great.  He's always gonna be a decent shooter but IMO I don't see him as that #2 guy for the Cavs. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 11, 2018, 09:58:09 PM
Man, Crowder is just a non-factor in Cleveland. Sad to see.

He's doing decent tonight (11 points on 4-7 shooting), but he's averaging 8 points and 3 rebounds a game in 26 minutes/game. Also Cavaliers fans are complaining that his defense just isn't as great. Though I can understand the last part since to be honest, his defense seemed to be a lot worse for the C's last year (took a hit from his defense here 2 years ago).

His whole last year here, a lot of us thought his def regressed.  When he first got traded here, his def intensity was awesome, he fit in really well with the underdog mentality.  But last year I think his limitations on offense got exposed.  When his def didn't stand out anymore, then why do you keep him if we got great young wings who need playing time + GH.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Kuberski33 on January 11, 2018, 10:01:49 PM
I'll always have love for IT4 but unless something drastic happens it looks more and more like Brad's system is what made him look so great.  He's always gonna be a decent shooter but IMO I don't see him as that #2 guy for the Cavs.
He's not in shape yet. I do question whether he'll be as effective as he was under Brad, but he need his legs to be on his game and doesn't have them yet.  It's obvious when you watch him attack the basket.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 11, 2018, 10:03:02 PM
the butt kicking continues in Toronto.

Raps up 113-78 over LeCavs.  I love it, I think..
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 11, 2018, 10:04:10 PM
James has played 32 minutes in a game that the Raptors lead by 35. Seems like a waste.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on January 11, 2018, 10:04:16 PM
VanVleet from Toronto looks good tonight.  When did he get so good?
He is looking good.

Vanvleet, Poeltl, and Valunciunas look good because they're playing 5 traffic cones tonight.

Honestly the cavs have been putrid.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Kuberski33 on January 11, 2018, 10:06:13 PM
No one on the floor for the Cavs right now wants to there.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 11, 2018, 10:16:13 PM
How low in the standings does anyone think the Cavs will drop to? I'm thinking 4th in The East.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 11, 2018, 10:23:48 PM
How low in the standings does anyone think the Cavs will drop to? I'm thinking 4th in The East.

I could see them at 4th, but I have no idea which other team will get to 3.  Miami?  Wash?  Bucks?  Heat have been winning lately, but I think Wash is better.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 11, 2018, 10:24:44 PM
VanVleet from Toronto looks good tonight.  When did he get so good?
He is looking good.

Vanvleet, Poeltl, and Valunciunas look good because they're playing 5 traffic cones tonight.

Honestly the cavs have been putrid.

The cavs d has been putrid I agree 100%.  But I was impressed with Vanvleet, he was confident moving the ball, shot well, in general looked like he belonged out there.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on January 11, 2018, 10:35:02 PM
We just may be in store for a good Eastern conference playoffs this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 11, 2018, 10:36:36 PM
LeBron coasting again . 

He ll play hard when it really counts .mmShame he ruins basketball.   Glade when he departs


IT was not exactly dominating.....4 points in 24 minutes  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 11, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
Lebron going to demand for more help now and demand to trade away that BKN Pick  :laugh:

Just too bad Cousins is likely NOT available, and even DeAndre Jordan might not be dealt (depending on how seriously the Clippers feel about wanting to make the playoffs this year).

Other than that, what big man can the Cavs get who could thread the needle even a little? Not many to be honest.

wonder if Lebron would give IT and the pick back if Kyrie would come back...... ;D


dang IT all.....Bron needs help
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 11, 2018, 11:04:37 PM
No team in the East will take a game from the Warriors in the Finals. Looks like it's up to the Spurs or Rockets.

? I don't understand this mentality about GS. We've legitimately played them better than any other team for the last three years, and we literally beat them already at full health this season.

It'd be a closer series than people think, especially if we're fully healthy (minus Hayward). I actually think with Hayward we would beat them in a series.
It is incredibly difficult to outscore the Warriors over the course of one game when Durant and Curry play 40+ minutes and one of them is almost always on the floor - forget about two or three games. Unless you have a top 5 NBA talent, which the Celtics do not.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticSooner on January 11, 2018, 11:14:57 PM
Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 11, 2018, 11:16:49 PM
How low in the standings does anyone think the Cavs will drop to? I'm thinking 4th in The East.

I could see them at 4th, but I have no idea which other team will get to 3.  Miami?  Wash?  Bucks?  Heat have been winning lately, but I think Wash is better.

Washington should already be at 3. The Heat are playing well but I don't know if they can keep it up and so far the Bucks just don't look like a top half playoff team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 11, 2018, 11:18:10 PM
Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol

I highly doubt it. I think that sends the message that management doesn't think they can win it all this year and are hedging their bets.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SparzWizard on January 12, 2018, 12:04:44 AM
Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol

LeBron manipulating the GM to make a "must-win" now move when they could improve their future with that BKN pick.

And then LeBron can bounce and go to LA or wherever in the summer. Haaaah.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 12, 2018, 12:09:46 AM
Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol

LeBron manipulating the GM to make a "must-win" now move when they could improve their future with that BKN pick.

And then LeBron can bounce and go to LA or wherever in the summer. Haaaah.

yup ...thats exactly waht Cavs FO thinking .....no way we are going to loose James and the Net pick ,  not worth risking using it on help for James and then getting blown out in the finals ......left standing empty handed with James flying to LA to sign
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 12, 2018, 12:15:09 AM
Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol

not a chance ...totally believe they know they can't beat GS .....and James won't stay unless he wins another title .     Keeping the pick , is the smart move .  Your probably loosing James anyway .  James and his wife already upgraded their home and shopped for a new High School for the boys .  Just waitng on GS to sweep them .  The moving vans will be at James home day after GS sweep.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenEnvy on January 12, 2018, 04:05:07 AM
Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol

not a chance ...totally believe they know they can't beat GS .....and James won't stay unless he wins another title .     Keeping the pick , is the smart move .  Your probably loosing James anyway .  James and his wife already upgraded their home and shopped for a new High School for the boys .  Just waitng on GS to sweep them .  The moving vans will be at James home day after GS sweep.

Iím honestly not sure they make it out of the East anymore.

They may have to do it on the road for two of the series. Do you really like their odds of beating Toronto then Boston without HCA against either?

I know LeBron is LeBron and IT will shake the rust, but their defense is atrocious. Both of their stars need the ball. Their role players are washed up. Their coach doesnít have them buying in.

If Celtics get GH back before April rolls around, I think they should (and would) be favored.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on January 12, 2018, 08:15:43 AM
Do you guys think Cleveland will trade the Nets pick to try and upgrade a position? You know LeBron will want them to lol

not a chance ...totally believe they know they can't beat GS .....and James won't stay unless he wins another title .     Keeping the pick , is the smart move .  Your probably loosing James anyway .  James and his wife already upgraded their home and shopped for a new High School for the boys .  Just waitng on GS to sweep them .  The moving vans will be at James home day after GS sweep.

Iím honestly not sure they make it out of the East anymore.

They may have to do it on the road for two of the series. Do you really like their odds of beating Toronto then Boston without HCA against either?

I know LeBron is LeBron and IT will shake the rust, but their defense is atrocious. Both of their stars need the ball. Their role players are washed up. Their coach doesnít have them buying in.

If Celtics get GH back before April rolls around, I think they should (and would) be favored.
Objectively (if that's possible), I favor the C's even w/o GH.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 12, 2018, 09:27:27 PM
So after getting blown out their last two games, the Cavaliers are about to blow a big lead today to the Indiana Pacers  ;D

And their next game is against the Warriors. Could get ugly if they can't figure it out now.

UPDATE: Comeback complete! Pacers win 97-95.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 12, 2018, 09:30:02 PM
Cavs blew a 22 point lead ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 12, 2018, 09:32:01 PM
Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.

But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on January 12, 2018, 09:33:31 PM
Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.

But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.

Even cowherd is struggling to spin this cavs team in a positive light. His lebron worship will never wane.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 12, 2018, 09:36:01 PM
Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.

But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
the whole Ēcavs only care about playoffĒ theory is ridiculous. It assumes that Father Time doesnít exist also. Itíll be funny if the Cavs go to 7th or 8th seed. Or dare I say it... miss the playoffs. One losing streak  and theyíll be in that discussion
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticD on January 12, 2018, 09:43:29 PM
Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.

But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
the whole Ēcavs only care about playoffĒ theory is ridiculous. It assumes that Father Time doesnít exist also. Itíll be funny if the Cavs go to 7th or 8th seed. Or dare I say it... miss the playoffs. One losing streak  and theyíll be in that discussion

We kinda have to give James the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't dominated the East for most of the decade for no reason, and IT still isn't back 100%. As much as I'd love to say "this is for real", he's stormed through the East too many times for me to think he and his team won't pick it up once the playoffs come round.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 12, 2018, 09:47:51 PM
Spencer freaking Dinwiddie!!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 12, 2018, 09:49:38 PM
You have to feel bad for Kevin Love though. I agree his defense hasn't been great either, BUT the guy is practically a walking double-double and has been fairly consistent in his entire time in Cleveland. Even today, the guy had 21 points on 8-14 shooting, and 9 rebounds. And with Isaiah out, Love played a HUGE part in that winning stretch the Cavaliers had to keep them Top-3 in the East at the moment.

BUT he's always the scapegoat it seems when they fail and is ALWAYS in trade talks for other star players (especially this past summer). Kind of sad.

Now obviously I hate when he kills us in games and hope he does BAD when he plays us, but man is Kevin Love underappreciated over in Cleveland.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 12, 2018, 09:50:08 PM
This is the third game I've seen Acy dribble and turn it over at the worst time.

Edit: Brooklyn Wins!!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 12, 2018, 09:57:27 PM
You have to feel bad for Kevin Love though. I agree his defense hasn't been great either, BUT the guy is practically a walking double-double and has been fairly consistent in his entire time in Cleveland. Even today, the guy had 21 points on 8-14 shooting, and 9 rebounds. And with Isaiah out, Love played a HUGE part in that winning stretch the Cavaliers had to keep them Top-3 in the East at the moment.

BUT he's always the scapegoat it seems when they fail and is ALWAYS in trade talks for other star players (especially this past summer). Kind of sad.

Now obviously I hate when he kills us in games and hope he does BAD when he plays us, but man is Kevin Love underappreciated over in Cleveland.

Pretty much similar situation to Chris Bosh with Miami.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 12, 2018, 10:13:26 PM
Why is Middleton guarding KD when Giannis is on the court?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: TheisTheisBaby on January 12, 2018, 10:55:30 PM
Holy Crap do I despise watching the Rockets. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 12, 2018, 11:43:16 PM
Cavs lose again - third loss in a row and the eighth loss in their last eleven games.

But, guys, don't worry. The Cavs are fine, because they always do this in the middle of the season.
the whole Ēcavs only care about playoffĒ theory is ridiculous. It assumes that Father Time doesnít exist also. Itíll be funny if the Cavs go to 7th or 8th seed. Or dare I say it... miss the playoffs. One losing streak  and theyíll be in that discussion

We kinda have to give James the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't dominated the East for most of the decade for no reason, and IT still isn't back 100%. As much as I'd love to say "this is for real", he's stormed through the East too many times for me to think he and his team won't pick it up once the playoffs come round.

I'm not writing them off until they're eliminated from the playoffs. I especially don't want to see them drop so low that Boston ends up facing them in the first or second round.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CoachBS#1 on January 13, 2018, 12:04:22 AM
Blah blah blah! That' when kyrie was with them now they not Go Celtics!!!!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on January 13, 2018, 01:15:35 AM
For what ever struggles the Cavs are having, I'm still not thrilled about facing LeBron in the playoffs.  He always finds that next gear.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 13, 2018, 06:59:14 PM
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Rockets to sign Vipers guard R.J. Hunter to a two-way contract tomorrow, per source.

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/952286114076741632
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on January 13, 2018, 07:05:43 PM
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Rockets to sign Vipers guard R.J. Hunter to a two-way contract tomorrow, per source.

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/952286114076741632

They are loading up on ex Celtics. Someone should tell them neither of those two ever knew much about Steven's playbook to begin with.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 13, 2018, 09:39:02 PM
Raptors on verge of a comeback after being down 27.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 01:36:17 PM
iT drops 51 on Curry and hits game winner with less 1 sec left in game .

return ....

of the mighty IT.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 02:43:23 PM
iT drops 51 on Curry and hits game winner with less 1 sec left in game .

return ....

of the mighty IT.

He is playing 20 minutes a game and shooting 35% so probably not quite there yet...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 15, 2018, 02:57:49 PM
Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 03:01:54 PM
Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.

This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 15, 2018, 03:11:46 PM
Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.

This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.

Looks like we both might've jinxed this, Raptors climbing back in it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: matteo on January 15, 2018, 03:41:20 PM
it's gonna work out but WHY didn't philly pull it out and run the clock/get fouled the last two steals...so dumb
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on January 15, 2018, 03:43:55 PM
Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 03:44:01 PM
Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.

This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.

Looks like we both might've jinxed this, Raptors climbing back in it.

Looks like they got within 1 and ran out of guess... nice win for philly.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 15, 2018, 03:45:33 PM
Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.
I'm not at all worried about them. We match up really well with them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Surferdad on January 15, 2018, 04:25:39 PM
Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.

This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.

Looks like we both might've jinxed this, Raptors climbing back in it.

Looks like they got within 1 and ran out of guess... nice win for philly.
Good week so far for Philly, from the C's perspective.  Lose to Boston, then beat one of their closest EC competitors.  Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RodyTur10 on January 15, 2018, 04:51:05 PM
Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.

We won't be so fortunate that the Knicks or Hornets will jump into the 8th seed, so there's no really easy outcome here. I guess we would like to meet the Pacers, but all other teams are dangerous.

We have had a lot of trouble with the Pistons (Harris and Drummond!) the past seasons. The Bucks with a healthy Parker and Antetokounmpo on the court almost full time could give us a very hard time. The Heat are deep and doing pretty well, although we would be clear favorites against them.

Obviously don't want to see the Cavaliers or Wizards drop to face in the first round!

So apart from the Pacers or the Heat, I think there's not a better match up out there for us than the 76ers.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 15, 2018, 05:11:21 PM
Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.

They might be dangerous next year but this year I think they're much too disorganized and prone to losing focus to do well in playoff basketball.  They dominated Toronto most of the game and then made a ton of mistakes when things tightened up in the 4th.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 05:54:11 PM
Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.

They might be dangerous next year but this year I think they're much too disorganized and prone to losing focus to do well in playoff basketball.  They dominated Toronto most of the game and then made a ton of mistakes when things tightened up in the 4th.

Yeah they have been having this issue all year. Usually they actually blow the game completely into a loss (happened a few weeks back against Toronto ironically enough). I am not sure that they are going to even make it. Pistons and Pacers both are pretty veterans teams that probably will do better in the second half than the 76ers having Simmons already playing more than he ever has and ongoing issues with Embiid. I think every other team is kind of a lock to make it (heat, cavs, celtics, bucks, raps, wizards)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 06:19:51 PM
Heat is the team i'm most worried about. I want them to match up against Cavs or the Raptors. They are just a bad matchup for anyone.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 06:24:33 PM
iT drops 51 on Curry and hits game winner with less 1 sec left in game .

return ....

of the mighty IT.

He is playing 20 minutes a game and shooting 35% so probably not quite there yet...

LOl....thanks .....I got little carried away with my prediction ...... ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 06:28:45 PM
Im torn who I want to win Cavs vs GS.    one hand the thought of cheering for Lewhine is repulsive,  but I want GS to lose to bring them closer to Bostons record .  So many angles to this game .

Maybe Ill cheer for IT ....ignore the fact he plays for His he hated Club LeBron.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on January 15, 2018, 06:30:07 PM
Im torn who he want to win Cavs vs GS.    one hand the thought of cheering for Lewhine is repulsive,  but I want GS to lose to bring them closer to Bostons record . 

Maybe Ill cheer for IT ....ignore the fact he plays for His he hated Club LeBron.

I want GS to totally blow out the Cavs and send a message that the Cavs don't have what it takes anymore. Add fuel to the turmoil in Cleveland and increase the chance that the front office makes a bad trade.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 06:35:12 PM
Im torn who I want to win Cavs vs GS.    one hand the thought of cheering for Lewhine is repulsive,  but I want GS to lose to bring them closer to Bostons record .  So many angles to this game .

Maybe Ill cheer for IT ....ignore the fact he plays for His he hated Club LeBron.

Is everyone playing tonight for this matchup?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 15, 2018, 06:36:12 PM
Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.

They might be dangerous next year but this year I think they're much too disorganized and prone to losing focus to do well in playoff basketball.  They dominated Toronto most of the game and then made a ton of mistakes when things tightened up in the 4th.

Yeah they have been having this issue all year. Usually they actually blow the game completely into a loss (happened a few weeks back against Toronto ironically enough). I am not sure that they are going to even make it. Pistons and Pacers both are pretty veterans teams that probably will do better in the second half than the 76ers having Simmons already playing more than he ever has and ongoing issues with Embiid. I think every other team is kind of a lock to make it (heat, cavs, celtics, bucks, raps, wizards)
I predicted that the Sixers would make the playoffs if they were close to .500 at the hallway point and Embiid plays 60+ games.  I'll stick with that.  Their 2nd half schedule is much easier.  After Thursday's game, they will have played all their games against us, Toronto, GSW and Houston.  In case of a tie, the Sixers are 3-0 against the Pistons with 1 game left and 1-0 against the Pacers with 2 games left. 

It will be interesting to see how aggressive the Sixers are trying to make the playoffs.  Does Embiid play any B2Bs?  Do they make a playoff focused deadline trade? 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 06:47:03 PM
Im torn who I want to win Cavs vs GS.    one hand the thought of cheering for Lewhine is repulsive,  but I want GS to lose to bring them closer to Bostons record .  So many angles to this game .

Maybe Ill cheer for IT ....ignore the fact he plays for His he hated Club LeBron.

Is everyone playing tonight for this matchup?

Maybe not Rose .    I think GS is healthy .   It should be a barn burner.   Lebron has been spanked in this game several times 6 of 7 osmething like that .   He may open the special can tonight to prove a point ......no matter where he lands next season .....he can still get the job done ....
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
I kind of want Golden State to KILL Cleveland.

I understand the implications with W-L record between Golden State and Boston, but at the same time, if the Cavaliers suffer another humiliating loss, this time at the hands of Golden State while at home (Quicken Loans Arena), then I could imagine things start to get real ugly in Cleveland honestly.

They are just 2 games away from being a 5 seed in the standings, and I could see LBJ getting restless and demanding they fire Lue, and/or trade the Nets Pick for some sort of help. Problem is, Cousins is likely NOT getting dealt, and DeAndre Jordan might not be either, in which case, their options are limited to mainly buyout options which probably isn't threading the needle for them in a series vs. Golden State.

It's strange really, I think Golden State would also kill us (Boston) in a Final series, BUT we do seem to match up well against them to be honest, even better than Cleveland. Of course, Cleveland > Boston w/King James, but still...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jdz101 on January 15, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
Toronto's getting clobbered by Philly and I am here for it. We need them to rack up those losses to stretch our margin of error for homecourt.

This may be the rare game where Philly plays a complete game and doesn't cough up a big lead.

A lot of that is Embiid IMO.

He doesn't play back to backs, he needs games off, and he doesn't train. He has no conditioning or staying power. Watch him next time at a 3rd quarter time-out. He is doubled over sucking in the big ones.

That team goes as far as Embiid carries them, and by the second half of basketball games, he is usually pretty tired. They can get leads and build leads in the first half of games, but then when he fades or needs time off the court in the second half, the team seriously fades with him. The fact that they have no guys that can create their own shot outside of Embiid compounds their woes down the stretch.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 07:38:23 PM
Great for our standings, but I have to admit, I am beginning to get a bit worried about facing the Sixers in the 1st round of the playoffs. I would hope we draw a better matchup, they are dangerous.

They might be dangerous next year but this year I think they're much too disorganized and prone to losing focus to do well in playoff basketball.  They dominated Toronto most of the game and then made a ton of mistakes when things tightened up in the 4th.

Yeah they have been having this issue all year. Usually they actually blow the game completely into a loss (happened a few weeks back against Toronto ironically enough). I am not sure that they are going to even make it. Pistons and Pacers both are pretty veterans teams that probably will do better in the second half than the 76ers having Simmons already playing more than he ever has and ongoing issues with Embiid. I think every other team is kind of a lock to make it (heat, cavs, celtics, bucks, raps, wizards)
I predicted that the Sixers would make the playoffs if they were close to .500 at the hallway point and Embiid plays 60+ games.  I'll stick with that.  Their 2nd half schedule is much easier.  After Thursday's game, they will have played all their games against us, Toronto, GSW and Houston.  In case of a tie, the Sixers are 3-0 against the Pistons with 1 game left and 1-0 against the Pacers with 2 games left. 

It will be interesting to see how aggressive the Sixers are trying to make the playoffs.  Does Embiid play any B2Bs?  Do they make a playoff focused deadline trade?

Its certainly possible, but you have always been one of the most optimistic people regarding the 76ers. On the positive side of the ledger simmons has been as good as could be hoped for and Emiid has been mostly healthy. On the flip side Fultz is starting to look like one of the weirdest stories in the history of the NBA. I do think they could trade their own first round pick for Williams, but the Clippers are talking about extending him. I am not sure what kinds of shooters are out there that would really help them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 07:40:19 PM
I kind of want Golden State to KILL Cleveland.

I understand the implications with W-L record between Golden State and Boston, but at the same time, if the Cavaliers suffer another humiliating loss, this time at the hands of Golden State while at home (Quicken Loans Arena), then I could imagine things start to get real ugly in Cleveland honestly.

They are just 2 games away from being a 5 seed in the standings, and I could see LBJ getting restless and demanding they fire Lue, and/or trade the Nets Pick for some sort of help. Problem is, Cousins is likely NOT getting dealt, and DeAndre Jordan might not be either, in which case, their options are limited to mainly buyout options which probably isn't threading the needle for them in a series vs. Golden State.

It's strange really, I think Golden State would also kill us (Boston) in a Final series, BUT we do seem to match up well against them to be honest, even better than Cleveland. Of course, Cleveland > Boston w/King James, but still...


I agree with all of this. We also would give Golden State a more competitive series because it is not a coaching mismatch like Kerr running circles around Lue. The Cavs needed to fire Lue a week ago.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 15, 2018, 08:28:44 PM
IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 08:31:28 PM
IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.

To be fair, all he really has to do is average around 23-25 PPG, like Kyrie did last season with Cleveland. So far, he has 4 points tonight, and Kyrie's defense last year was bad as well, so it's not a major regression by putting IT in there instead of Kyrie for Cleveland.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
So I just found out that before the game, Charles Barkley predicted "Cleveland would not make the NBA Finals".

But knowing his Celtics hate, he probably thinks either Toronto, Miami or Washington is making the Finals instead of Cleveland...  ::)

(I mean, you could make the case for Toronto, but Charles Barkley is one who thinks the Wizards and Raptors are WAY better than the Celtics... which as Stephen A. Smith would say, is blasphemous).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 15, 2018, 08:35:06 PM
Can't see the game. Do the Cavs look ready to battle or ready to make an excuse at the end?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 08:36:11 PM
Can't see the game. Do the Cavs look ready to battle or ready to make an excuse at the end?

Defense is bad as usual but the offense is good enough so far not to get blown out by the Warriors.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 08:36:28 PM
Can't see the game. Do the Cavs look ready to battle or ready to make an excuse at the end?

Excuses, make trade calls, fire the coach, etc.  ;D

But this game, they started off HOT, with like 8-10 shooting, and had an 18-11 lead.

NOW? Warriors on an 8-0 run with Cleveland playing HORRIBLE defense.  :P
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 08:42:44 PM
Cavs literally have 0 rim protection. Love sucks defensively and IT have 0 resistance in the post.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 08:43:51 PM
Wow Klay already has 13 points so far.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 15, 2018, 08:49:12 PM
For as bad as the Cavs D has been, it hasn't killed them against Gstate so far.  Cavs up by 7 in the 1st.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: blink on January 15, 2018, 08:52:06 PM
oh man Lebron just ran over Curry, foul on Curry.  such bad calls..
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 08:54:09 PM
Kevin Durant just put the best player in the league on a poster!  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 15, 2018, 08:54:29 PM
IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.

To be fair, all he really has to do is average around 23-25 PPG, like Kyrie did last season with Cleveland. So far, he has 4 points tonight, and Kyrie's defense last year was bad as well, so it's not a major regression by putting IT in there instead of Kyrie for Cleveland.

It absolutely is a major regression. Where both were bad defenders in Cleveland, at least Kyrie didn't give a major mismatch post-up opportunity like IT does. That's a significant change that will only get exposed the more IT plays.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 15, 2018, 08:57:07 PM
Cavs just played about as good as they can possibly play, yet they're only up two, even with James dominating with 16 points on 6-8 shooting.

I just don't see how this Cleveland team can beat Golden State, let alone four out of seven times. You simply can't "out-offense" them, which would be the Cavs whole gameplan. Beating Golden State takes an elite defensive team that can exploit their propensity to turn the ball over and convert that into easy buckets. The Cavs aren't that team, and I'm guessing as soon as Lebron sits you'll see a big run.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 08:58:19 PM
Cavs just played about as good as they can possibly play, yet they're only up two, even with James dominating with 16 points on 6-8 shooting.

I just don't see how this Cleveland team can beat Golden State, let alone four out of seven times. You simply can't "out-offense" them, which would be the Cavs whole gameplan. Beating Golden State takes an elite defensive team that can exploit their propensity to turn the ball over and convert that into easy buckets. The Cavs aren't that team, and I'm guessing as soon as Lebron sits you'll see a big run.

But Lebron needs more help! ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 09:00:00 PM
Seems that Cavs really moves the ball better without Lebron.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on January 15, 2018, 09:01:36 PM
IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.

To be fair, all he really has to do is average around 23-25 PPG, like Kyrie did last season with Cleveland. So far, he has 4 points tonight, and Kyrie's defense last year was bad as well, so it's not a major regression by putting IT in there instead of Kyrie for Cleveland.

It absolutely is a major regression. Where both were bad defenders in Cleveland, at least Kyrie didn't give a major mismatch post-up opportunity like IT does. That's a significant change that will only get exposed the more IT plays.
Yeah, it's a very sizable regression. IT is awful on defence
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 09:06:59 PM
IT's defense is so bad, though it's exacerbated by this Cavs defense as a whole being putrid.

To be fair, all he really has to do is average around 23-25 PPG, like Kyrie did last season with Cleveland. So far, he has 4 points tonight, and Kyrie's defense last year was bad as well, so it's not a major regression by putting IT in there instead of Kyrie for Cleveland.

It absolutely is a major regression. Where both were bad defenders in Cleveland, at least Kyrie didn't give a major mismatch post-up opportunity like IT does. That's a significant change that will only get exposed the more IT plays.
Yeah, it's a very sizable regression. IT is awful on defence

I mean, I don't disagree that Isaiah's defense is awful, but if we compare it to Kyrie's defense last year, it wasn't that worse I believe.

I forget who, but I think someone on here a few months ago posted something that showed Isaiah like last in the league at a certain defensive metric, and Kyrie very close to Isaiah (also real bad).

But yeah, the size difference is noticeable and a factor, I agree with that.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 09:10:04 PM
Isaiah struggling tonight. 2/8 shooting.

Lebron keeping them in this with 18 points already, but Cavaliers only up 2 right now.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
Cavs play a lot of me ball. IT selfish as usual and James...well is James

So glad IT was shipped out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 15, 2018, 09:13:16 PM
IT turned up and raking their ass! Haha!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 09:14:37 PM
IT turned up and raking their ass! Haha!

Still plays absolutely no defense
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 09:15:14 PM
Isaiah struggling tonight. 2/8 shooting.

Lebron keeping them in this with 18 points already, but Cavaliers only up 2 right now.

And on cue, Isaiah plays better, hits a shot, connects with James on an alley-oop, and Cavaliers increase the lead to 6  :P
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 09:16:25 PM
F the Cavs. Old.

Wade is a dirty player
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 09:20:45 PM
Looks like another game where Lebron will need to play 40 minutes and score 40+ for the Cavaliers to win tonight.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 09:22:46 PM
Looks like another game where Lebron will need to play 40 minutes and score 40+ for the Cavaliers to win tonight.

Cavs better not get Toronto in the eastern conf semi's...Cavs play no defense
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 09:23:24 PM
GS is a lazy basketball team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 09:23:55 PM
Looks like another game where Lebron will need to play 40 minutes and score 40+ for the Cavaliers to win tonight.

Cavs better not get Toronto in the eastern conf semi's...Cavs play no defense

Even if CLE matches up with Miami in the 1st round, it won't be easy for them.

But yeah, there's a good chance they play TOR or WAS in the EC Semi's (Wizards tend to play Cavaliers tough as well).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 09:28:25 PM
I thunking GS gets a " L " tonight

wade , green , everybody trying really hard. 

They can still play , if they get rest
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 09:29:57 PM
I still don't believe Thomas is an answer in Cleveland. GS beats the Cavs in 5 in a series. Cavs old, long travel, oft injured.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 09:33:57 PM
Going to be great to watch the Cavs being dismantled in the offseason...

Wade---Old
James is not staying
IT--nobody is paying that guy big money
Crowder--he is a role player
Green, Rose, Calderon, Korver are all old and not a long term answer
Thompson is overpaid and is already being shopped
Love is a one trick pony

Cavs are cap strapped and have no youth on that roster. Kyrie knew it and he knew James wasn't staying and didn't want to be stuck on a crap team
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 15, 2018, 09:42:50 PM
IT still doesn't look like he's fully recovered. He's a step slow from what he was in previous years, which substantially affects his game. It'll be interesting to see if he ever gets that elite speed back.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 09:44:30 PM
IT still doesn't look like he's fully recovered. He's a step slow from what he was in previous years, which substantially affects his game. It'll be interesting to see if he ever gets that elite speed back.


Yeah he looks stiff and doesn't run right...more like he shuffles. I honestly believe the hip is going to get worse at some point this season and he will have to have surgery
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 15, 2018, 09:49:49 PM
Durant is just too chumy with opposing players in game for my liking
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 15, 2018, 09:49:50 PM
GS rivaling Cleveland for worst defense tonight, good Lord.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 09:52:42 PM
GS rivaling Cleveland for worst defense tonight, good Lord.

And yet GS is still within 1 LOL.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 09:55:32 PM
GS rivaling Cleveland for worst defense tonight, good Lord.

Warriors are so overrated defensively.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 15, 2018, 10:00:04 PM
This game may finish with both teams scoring 120+ LOL.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:04:50 PM
GS just toys with you. Issue is nobody can beat them 4 times in a week and a half
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 10:05:46 PM
GS just toys with you. Issue is nobody can beat them 4 times in a week and a half

They won't be toying anytime soon when they face the Celtics once again. Team will make sure they won't have any fun even if they win.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 10:10:09 PM
GS just toys with you. Issue is nobody can beat them 4 times in a week and a half

Yes I agree. This is no longer a fun matchup. Cleveland can steal a game at home but they are not winning a series
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: wayupnorth on January 15, 2018, 10:10:23 PM
Durant is just too chumy with opposing players in game for my liking

After going to the Warriors, it seems pretty clear he isn't the most competitive guy around.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:20:49 PM
I'm waiting for The Warriors to step on the gas and just blow this out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:24:20 PM
Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 15, 2018, 10:24:51 PM
I don't understand Cleveland not playing Thompson more. He at least gives them some defensive presence, and his rebounding is still such a valuable tool for them. They're a bad defensive team even with Thompson playing, but they're a whole other level of bad with Love at the 5, at least to the eye test.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed

He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:27:32 PM
Is Crowder hurt or something? Why isn't he playing?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 10:27:52 PM
Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed

He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
Kardashian curse is really strong, lol.


Warriors is starting to pull away. You don't win against them by trying to outgun them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:28:55 PM
Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed

He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
Kardashian curse is really strong, lol.


Warriors is starting to pull away. You don't win against them by trying to outgun them.

The Cavs don't have any defenders so they have to try and out score you.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed

He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.
Kardashian curse is really strong, lol.


Warriors is starting to pull away. You don't win against them by trying to outgun them.

The Cavs don't have any defenders so they have to try and out score you.

And they can't because they are so old and shoot jumpers late in games with tired legs. Crowder never plays in crunch time.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jambr380 on January 15, 2018, 10:30:58 PM
Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed

He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.

The Cavs didn't want to give it to him, but Lebron had them over a barrel. At least they saved $12M on the deal (he ended up with a 5yr/$82M deal rather than the $94M max he was demanding).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:31:46 PM
IT been playing close 30 minutes
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 15, 2018, 10:33:45 PM
Not gonna lie. If the cavs don't come back here gonna be fairly humorous hearing our resident celtics cavs fans tell us why the cavs will dominate the east so easily
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:34:23 PM
KD s hair thin on back ......Lebron laughing  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:35:08 PM
Tristan Thompson is terrible. Man that guy has regressed

He got that huge contract, that he didn't deserve, and fell off a cliff.

The Cavs didn't want to give it to him, but Lebron had them over a barrel. At least they saved $12M on the deal (he ended up with a 5yr/$82M deal rather than the $94M max he was demanding).

That is still a massive overpay for a role player.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:35:10 PM
35 minutes for IT

they wanting to win. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:36:14 PM
35 minutes is alot

he is offically back.  IMO
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:36:32 PM
IT trying to play King in the 4th with the Cavs will not work.

Cavs defense is terrible and IT getting big minutes makes it worse. Living in Ohio, I see every Cavs games. There is a thought they are bored and will turn in on when they have to....but it is really the opposite. They have bad habits and are flat out flawed
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:37:12 PM
Swaggy P,....fo Trey
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:37:52 PM
Game over
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:38:04 PM
Swaggy P,....fo Trey

In dirty D Wade's face
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:38:10 PM
IT trying to play King in the 4th with the Cavs will not work.

Cavs defense is terrible and IT getting big minutes makes it worse. Living in Ohio, I see every Cavs games. There is a thought they are bored and will turn in on when they have to....but it is really the opposite. They have bad habits and are flat out flawed

If you don't go to IT on offense there is no reason for him to be in the game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:38:36 PM
King of 4 th scores
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:39:09 PM
Swaggy P,....fo Trey

In dirty D Wade's face

I thought the D stood for Dirty...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:39:33 PM
IT trying to play King in the 4th with the Cavs will not work.

Cavs defense is terrible and IT getting big minutes makes it worse. Living in Ohio, I see every Cavs games. There is a thought they are bored and will turn in on when they have to....but it is really the opposite. They have bad habits and are flat out flawed

If you don't go to IT on offense there is no reason for him to be in the game.


Not going to happen with LBJ on the floor in the 4th. James leads all players in scoring in the 4th...IT is going to have to be the lil sidekick
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:40:08 PM
Swaggy P,....fo Trey

In dirty D Wade's face

I thought the D stood for Dirty...

It stands for something else much more vile...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:40:29 PM
IT trying to play King in the 4th with the Cavs will not work.

Cavs defense is terrible and IT getting big minutes makes it worse. Living in Ohio, I see every Cavs games. There is a thought they are bored and will turn in on when they have to....but it is really the opposite. They have bad habits and are flat out flawed

If you don't go to IT on offense there is no reason for him to be in the game.

thats basically the facts .  Klay was using him as front sight to line up shots .....IT has no chance wot 6 3" and up,guys .
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:41:35 PM
Sir Charles

bron doo looking sooooooo thin

come on home bro
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:42:49 PM
Bron Bron getting a crazy call there.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:43:53 PM
Warriors didn't even play that well tonight and still running the Cavs out of the gym
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2018, 10:44:24 PM
Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
To quote the great Paul Pierce " It's like a puppy and a pitbull"...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:45:07 PM
GS did not look stressed to beat Cavs.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 15, 2018, 10:45:13 PM
I don't see a logical way to defend this team when they run this many pick and rolls.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:45:16 PM
Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.

They will do nothing...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:46:11 PM
Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.

Does it matter? Cavs are going to be worn out by they time they get to Boston...

Cavs don't have enough scoring to beat elite teams
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:47:55 PM
Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.

let him walk

no wa they spend thta pic on Bron without no promise to resign .

Its n Brons corner really ......he can't expect them to spent the Net pick without a comittment .   Really up to Have Ball Le travel
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:49:20 PM
Swaggy P,....fo Trey

In dirty D Wade's face

I thought the D stood for Dirty...

Dirtbag
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 15, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
4 losses in a row. Cavs still look terrible. Coach lue is bad but so are many players on the roster like Thompson
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:50:35 PM
Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.

let him walk

no wa they spend thta pic on Bron without no promise to resign .

Its n Brons corner really ......he can't expect them to spent the Net pick without a comittment .   Really up to Have Ball Le travel

LeBron is holding this team hostage again. I can't think of another great NBA player that would be constantly hold his own teams feet to the fire. He's punching the whole franchise just like he did to The Cavs before and did to Miami.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:50:52 PM
Lakers pick > Nets pick. Boston upgrade with Kyrie and still might have a better pick

Nets pick getting traded would be dumb for the Cavs..James is not going to play his cards until the end to avoid the backlash...He is not coming back to Cleveland...a team that is old, has no money and has been proven not good enough to win a title as constructed

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:51:10 PM
Wonder if CBS had been handed Clippers team .Doc was gifted .....back then ......with all that talent .....would he have won a title.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
Lakers pick > Nets pick. Boston upgrade with Kyrie and still might have a better pick

Nets pick getting traded would be dumb for the Cavs..James is not going to play his cards until the end to avoid the backlash...He is not coming back to Cleveland...a team that is old, has no money and has been proven not good enough to win a title as constructed

LeBron built this team and now he'll bail.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 15, 2018, 10:53:13 PM
Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:53:21 PM
Wonder if CBS had been handed Clippers team .Doc was gifted .....back then ......with all that talent .....would he have won a title.

Yes, at least one.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:53:47 PM
The Cavs team reminds me of the one Boston ran out of town in Lebron's last series with them before going to Miami in 2010.

LBJ handpicked Marion, Amare and company and looked old and dead by that EC semifinal. LBJ dictated who he wanted and all year we heard they are just pacing themselves...yet in the end they were just old
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:53:51 PM
Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.

Starting to get some separation.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2018, 10:55:13 PM
Game over. Now I wonder what will the Cavs front office do at this point.

let him walk

no wa they spend thta pic on Bron without no promise to resign .

Its n Brons corner really ......he can't expect them to spent the Net pick without a comittment .   Really up to Have Ball Le travel

LeBron is holding this team hostage again. I can't think of another great NBA player that would be constantly hold his own teams feet to the fire. He's punching the whole franchise just like he did to The Cavs before and did to Miami.

They don't trust him to,stay.......I,would not on a handshake and promise. I want signed contract before muse the nets pick.   

Kyrie knowsmhe is most likey leaving and knew Cavs were not equipped win even if he stayed and went down with the ship
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:55:44 PM
Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.

Starting to get some separation.

Having Cleveland have to go through Toronto before Boston is huge for the Cs...Plus Cleveland is a terrible road team.

I could see the Raptors winning that series
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jambr380 on January 15, 2018, 10:56:57 PM
Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.

A Raptors-Cavs 2nd round match-up is certainly preferable from a Cs fan perspective. At this point, I hope the Cavs can hang on to the 3rd seed. They have been awful lately!

Edit: Okay, I basically said what everybody else said so TPs to you guys!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 10:58:23 PM
Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.

A Raptors-Cavs 2nd round match-up is certainly preferable from a Cs fan perspective. At this point, I hope the Cavs can hang on to the 3rd seed. They have been awful lately!

The way The Cavs are playing they will be Lucky to get by The Pacers in the 1st round.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 10:58:52 PM
Raps, Cavs and Heat all lose. Great night for our seeding chances. Really starting to feel like we'll be the 1 seed again.

A Raptors-Cavs 2nd round match-up is certainly preferable from a Cs fan perspective. At this point, I hope the Cavs can hang on to the 3rd seed. They have been awful lately!

Edit: Okay, I basically said what everybody else said so TPs to you guys!


I am praying Miami stays in the 4 hole and can win the first series. I think Boston would beat them in 4 or 5 games.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 15, 2018, 11:00:23 PM
We've just gotta hope the Heat or Wizards don't catch the Cavs and drop them to 4.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 15, 2018, 11:00:28 PM
I didn't think Cavs played all that bad. They were trying their hardest IMO. They even tried to defend most of the time. LBJ looked gassed though and they had a few days off so I don't know.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 15, 2018, 11:02:44 PM
I didn't think Cavs played all that bad. They were trying their hardest IMO. They even tried to defend most of the time. LBJ looked gassed though and they had a few days off so I don't know.

Cavs were done at the half. They came out with no energy and got ran out of the building. This happens EVERY night. Last game the Pacers had a huge 3rd quarter and got the lead after being down 22.

A go to line up of James, IT, Wade, Love and Smith is just terrible
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 15, 2018, 11:15:31 PM
I didn't think Cavs played all that bad. They were trying their hardest IMO. They even tried to defend most of the time. LBJ looked gassed though and they had a few days off so I don't know.

Cavs were done at the half. They came out with no energy and got ran out of the building. This happens EVERY night. Last game the Pacers had a huge 3rd quarter and got the lead after being down 22.

A go to line up of James, IT, Wade, Love and Smith is just terrible

They were down around 2-4 going into the 4th IIRC. I think the game was won when they started attacking IT on D. I don't know why they weren't doing it all game. When they did the Cavs D folded. What also got them was LBJ had to defend, that took it out of him. Another thing GSW did that I didn't see as much in the first half (don't remember anyway), they switched more on D. The change to Looney helped a lot also.

Kerr made some excellent second half decisions. That's good coaching, Cavs better hope Lue has that in him this season. COME ON EAST non-Cavs!!!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 15, 2018, 11:20:23 PM
I don't think these games matter much.  Maybe they're loosely used as a measuring stick by the two teams, but ultimately playoff basketball is a much different beast.  And the Cavs will continue to be scary not just because of LeBron, but because they've been there, done that.  Fwf made a good point -- drawing them at #4 would be a really tough outcome.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 15, 2018, 11:26:39 PM
I didn't think Cavs played all that bad. They were trying their hardest IMO. They even tried to defend most of the time. LBJ looked gassed though and they had a few days off so I don't know.

Cavs were done at the half. They came out with no energy and got ran out of the building. This happens EVERY night. Last game the Pacers had a huge 3rd quarter and got the lead after being down 22.

A go to line up of James, IT, Wade, Love and Smith is just terrible

The no defense line up.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 15, 2018, 11:58:17 PM
I don't think these games matter much.  Maybe they're loosely used as a measuring stick by the two teams, but ultimately playoff basketball is a much different beast.  And the Cavs will continue to be scary not just because of LeBron, but because they've been there, done that.  Fwf made a good point -- drawing them at #4 would be a really tough outcome.

I think you're right -- history tends to repeat itself.  TP, tar.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 16, 2018, 12:23:54 AM
I don't think these games matter much.  Maybe they're loosely used as a measuring stick by the two teams, but ultimately playoff basketball is a much different beast.  And the Cavs will continue to be scary not just because of LeBron, but because they've been there, done that.  Fwf made a good point -- drawing them at #4 would be a really tough outcome.

I think you're right -- history tends to repeat itself.  TP, tar.

I think you both are really on to something here! TP @tarheels and @tarheels!

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 16, 2018, 12:36:38 AM
I don't think these games matter much.  Maybe they're loosely used as a measuring stick by the two teams, but ultimately playoff basketball is a much different beast.  And the Cavs will continue to be scary not just because of LeBron, but because they've been there, done that.  Fwf made a good point -- drawing them at #4 would be a really tough outcome.

I think you're right -- history tends to repeat itself.  TP, tar.

Lol what
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 16, 2018, 03:02:19 AM
To quote the great Paul Pierce " It's like a puppy and a pitbull"...

This really was how the game was. Cavs are at a lower level with a bunch of other teams (and below healthy Houston )
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 16, 2018, 05:28:17 AM
Seems like I missed an interesting day of basketball.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Who on January 16, 2018, 06:12:51 AM
Cleveland remind me of that Miami Heat team after they won the title in 2006. The team that completely capitulated in the playoffs. Got hammered by a young Bulls team. All it took was a young, aggressive and athletic team. The Heat just couldn't cope. Too old, too slow.

Cleveland = just too many old players. Not enough speed or athleticism. Too many defensive liabilities. Terrible team D.

This isn't something they can turn on or off. This is who they are. And they will get bounced before the Finals because of it. Some younger athletic team will take them out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 16, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
So after playing an easy Magic team this Thursday, the next two games for the Cavaliers are vs. OKC, then @San Antonio. Might go 1-2 the next three games and cause even more tension in CLE.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 17, 2018, 11:19:42 PM
Disclaimer: The slow-motion is kinda gruesome for the queasy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuZbP78JqY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuZbP78JqY)

Looked painful.  He's improved a lot this year and is fun to watch.  Still rooting for the local kid to succeed (and not prove half of us wrong). 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: eja117 on January 18, 2018, 09:30:48 PM
IT is the lead scorer in a one point loss for Cleveland tonight
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 18, 2018, 09:33:03 PM
IT is the lead scorer in a one point loss for Cleveland tonight

Not his best shooting night, but he had a solid all-around game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on January 18, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
IT is the lead scorer in a one point loss for Cleveland tonight

You mean a 1 point win for Cleveland in which IT hit the game winning free throws.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 18, 2018, 10:14:53 PM
IT is the lead scorer in a one point loss for Cleveland tonight

You mean a 1 point win for Cleveland in which IT hit the game winning free throws.

Wow, I completely missed that.  TP.  Good for him!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 18, 2018, 10:26:17 PM
Cavs really looks bad despite the win.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 20, 2018, 11:46:38 AM
Cavaliers play @OKC this afternoon on ABC, then they play the Spurs on Tuesday night.

They are coming off a really, really close win vs. Orlando, and if they drop these next two games to elite Western foes, they may start to get desperate on the trade market, and Lebron could get restless too.

Of course, we'll have to see how Isaiah does these next two games. Their Finals aspirations does also hinge on him being a consistent 23-25 PPG scoring option.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 20, 2018, 02:38:00 PM
Lets go okc
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 20, 2018, 02:55:39 PM
Lets go okc

I'm pretty interested in this game. Cleveland is a favorite at home, but okc could dominate inside. How will IT try to stop Westbrook?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2018, 03:57:26 PM
Why Lue continues to have Love at the 5 instead of starting TT is beyond me. The offensive gains do not make up for what it does to their D and lesser rebounding without TT.

And from what I've seen Lue is having IT guard Westbrook instead of Roberson, who is potentially the worst offensive guard in the league. I don't think Roberson is really much of a post-up threat either.

Someone want to explain this to me? How much of the Cavs' terrible defense is on Lue?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: eja117 on January 20, 2018, 03:58:04 PM
Two things I love right now....IT doing ok and the Cavs getting crushed in the first quarter at home
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: sahara on January 20, 2018, 03:59:53 PM
Westbrook has been playing nice, getting everybody involved.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 20, 2018, 04:01:14 PM
Why Lue continues to have Love at the 5 instead of starting TT is beyond me. The offensive gains do not make up for what it does to their D and lesser rebounding without TT.

And from what I've seen Lue is having IT guard Westbrook instead of Roberson, who is potentially the worst offensive guard in the league. I don't think Roberson is really much of a post-up threat either.

Someone want to explain this to me? How much of the Cavs' terrible defense is on Lue?

Love at 5 worked a few game and Lue is convinced it will work every game now .
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 20, 2018, 04:01:20 PM
33 points for OKC with over 4 minutes left in the first. Cleveland's D is awful.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 20, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
When OKC is locked in, they're fun to watch.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 04:03:17 PM
Starting to worry more about Toronto than Cleveland in the east
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 04:04:03 PM
33 points for OKC with over 4 minutes left in the first. Cleveland's D is awful.

They are old and a team full of poor defenders to begin with
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 20, 2018, 04:05:29 PM
It's like the rim is Russell's mortal enemy. I love it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2018, 04:05:34 PM
Having IT defensively, players like Westbrook are impossible to guard. There's just no stopping him from getting where he wants to go. Remember how much trouble we had stopping Westbrook the last few years with IT here?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 04:07:34 PM
This is how bad it is for the Cavs. James is running with the second team
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 04:09:39 PM
43 points in ine quarter

Cavs cannot defend and are too old to just try to outscore anyone
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 20, 2018, 04:24:50 PM
Was that d Wade who got the ball stripped from and Westbrook scored from the stolen ball? Man the Cavs look bad
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 20, 2018, 04:33:15 PM
I have never seen a team with that many great players who a coach [dang] near refuses to do early subs and make sure there is always one on the floor. If your bench is as bad as as OKC's, why keep subbing in an entire bench unit at any point? I swear that's garbage coaching and yet he keeps doing it! 3 players as good as that? one should always be feasting on bench units!!! Why Billy why? Your bench scores 11 a game or something outlandish like that, one of PG/Melo could get that alone in 5 minutes with the bench!!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 04:38:49 PM
Derrick Rose getting minutes just shows how desperate the Cavs are.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 04:41:23 PM
Watching IT play these days is just like watching a car crash. Guy is down right slow and gets worked by anyone he guards
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 20, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
Anyone that thinks the cavs will just roll through the east needs to watch the first half of this game. Lie should be fired tomorrow
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 20, 2018, 04:53:06 PM
76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2018, 04:54:02 PM
I have never seen a team with that many great players who a coach [dang] near refuses to do early subs and make sure there is always one on the floor. If your bench is as bad as as OKC's, why keep subbing in an entire bench unit at any point? I swear that's garbage coaching and yet he keeps doing it! 3 players as good as that? one should always be feasting on bench units!!! Why Billy why? Your bench scores 11 a game or something outlandish like that, one of PG/Melo could get that alone in 5 minutes with the bench!!

I was wondering about this, too. I wonder if this is a college coach thing, because Brad seems to struggle with this at times, too.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 20, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 04:56:30 PM
Toronto is the biggest threat in the East.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 20, 2018, 04:59:28 PM
76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Also OKC has missed 7 FTs.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 20, 2018, 05:03:54 PM
76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Also OKC has missed 7 FTs.
Yep. And lastly, Billy Donovan inexplicably refused to stagger his three best players. However, that's a conversation for another day.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 05:05:48 PM
76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Also OKC has missed 7 FTs.
Yep. And lastly, Billy Donovan inexplicably refused to stagger his three best players. However, that's a conversation for another day.

Donovan is a better college coach. The way he handles his bench is comical
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 20, 2018, 05:09:09 PM
76 points in a half. Oh My God the Cavs defense is terrible. OKC is a good defensive team. If they had played their usual good defense they would have been up 25-30 points right now.
Refs have also given the Cavs a smattering of calls.
Also OKC has missed 7 FTs.
Yep. And lastly, Billy Donovan inexplicably refused to stagger his three best players. However, that's a conversation for another day.
I just don't get coaches that do that. Stevens does it and Doc always did it. Just makes no sense when your bench can't score.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 05:19:37 PM
Here comes pouting Lebron
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 20, 2018, 05:21:43 PM
Here comes pouting Lebron

I love pouting LeBron, he's my favorite LeBron....
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2018, 05:27:27 PM
ITís offense looking good. Looks like last yearís IT today.

Unfortunately for the Cavs, thatís not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.

I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldnít do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on January 20, 2018, 05:31:59 PM
ITís offense looking good. Looks like last yearís IT today.

Unfortunately for the Cavs, thatís not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.

I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldnít do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.

Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 20, 2018, 05:36:19 PM
I turned it off midway through the 2nd because I had some errands to take care of, just checked the box score and Russ is knocking on a triple double with 18 assists?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: MJohnnyboy on January 20, 2018, 05:45:08 PM
Jeff Green has been the Cavaliers' third best player.

That's how disappointing the Cavs have been this season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 20, 2018, 05:51:31 PM
My favorite stat for Cavs game is Lebron and his -33 rating 😁How soon before he starts demanding moves to bring in better players
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 20, 2018, 05:52:58 PM
OKC with 4 players with 23 points or more. Lebron by far with the worst +/- on his team with a -33. Don't see those two stats very often.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 20, 2018, 05:57:17 PM
Will OKC get to 150?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 20, 2018, 05:58:34 PM
Okc going for 155
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 20, 2018, 06:01:07 PM
Okc going for 155

They could make it. I almost posted 150 after the 3rd but I figured the scoring would slow down but NO!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
ITís offense looking good. Looks like last yearís IT today.

Unfortunately for the Cavs, thatís not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.

I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldnít do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.

Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.


Nobody is giving IT big money. Guy does not deserve it
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 20, 2018, 06:02:37 PM
ITís offense looking good. Looks like last yearís IT today.

Unfortunately for the Cavs, thatís not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.

I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldnít do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.

Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.


Nobody is giving IT big money. Guy does not deserve it

Some team will throw some cash at him. Maybe the Kings if they can send out some of those really bad contracts they signed players to this year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2018, 06:02:42 PM
Yeah, that looks like a Lebron James who is already looking towards next year.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 20, 2018, 06:03:35 PM
Am I petty for being happy that Lebron won't get his 30,000th point at home?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 20, 2018, 06:07:02 PM
ITís offense looking good. Looks like last yearís IT today.

Unfortunately for the Cavs, thatís not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.

I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldnít do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.

Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.


Nobody is giving IT big money. Guy does not deserve it

Some team will throw some cash at him. Maybe the Kings if they can send out some of those really bad contracts they signed players to this year.

He is not getting that Brinks truck
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 20, 2018, 06:41:08 PM
Cavs will be fine, I'm not going to get happy yet! Seen this movie before. I want to know why people keep assuming people want the BKN pick with as much value as people think it has? Remember that DA said he tried to trade the BKN picks a few times before and no teams would bite. Maybe people want young players already in the league for their good players, cavs have none of those. I'm sure they will be able to get something for it but it won't be a really good established player. Maybe DJ, he is really good and established but in this league, it's not really that great of a get, especially when looking up at GSW.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on January 20, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
Can't write off LeBron, but holy hell are the Cavs bad at defense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 20, 2018, 07:53:07 PM
Can't write off LeBron, but holy hell are the Cavs bad at defense.


Warriors have like 10 knock down shooters ,  all are 6- 12 inches taller than IT .   So there is nobody for him to stop.   Warrior vs Cavs is 5 on 4 on offense .   IT scor s 30 , he gives up 12 or 14 points in easy jumpers to guys like Curry , Iggy , KT and KD all game .    IT is great on awful shooting team like when he came on Celtics .   Cavs don't need his offense .....they need Bradleys and Smarts to play defense on some people.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 20, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
ITís offense looking good. Looks like last yearís IT today.

Unfortunately for the Cavs, thatís not going to help their God-awful D, and IT only makes their perimeter D that much worse.

I think someone like DJ would definitely help their D and rebounding, but that still wouldnít do crap for their lackluster perimeter D.

Good for IT. He's finally going to get his well deserved pay day if he keeps this up.


Nobody is giving IT big money. Guy does not deserve it

Some team will throw some cash at him. Maybe the Kings if they can send out some of those really bad contracts they signed players to this year.

He is not getting that Brinks truck

Let's not underestimate the prevalence of foolish GMs; seems like, no matter how many bad contracts are regularly handed out, there are always a couple of GMs who don't learn (from their mistakes or the mistakes of others), and instead give in to whatever pressure there is (real or not) to win nowó"Hey, look! I just signed a guy who can score 20+ a game! I must be doing my job well!"

Can't write off LeBron, but holy hell are the Cavs bad at defense.

Today's game seems like a new low. The Thunder shot 58% (!)óand almost 47% on threesóand would've easily surpassed 150 points if they'd shot their free throws well.

Yeah, I'm not writing off the LeBrons yet, but this is the worst any LeBron team has looked during the regular season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 20, 2018, 08:18:57 PM
LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on January 20, 2018, 08:33:55 PM
LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.

Yeah, he might come to Boston after weíve finished our sweep of the Warriors.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 20, 2018, 08:38:41 PM
LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.

Any sane organization should not give him power over their team. Lebron is aging and he should drop his ego before its too late. Learn to play within a system that doesn't revolve around him if he wants to expand his legacy.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 20, 2018, 09:20:39 PM
Hornets blew a 10 pt lead with 3 minutes left in game...

Game tied with 0.2 seconds left in game, and Dwight fouls olynyk
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 20, 2018, 09:24:42 PM
LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.

Yeah, he might come to Boston after weíve finished our sweep of the Warriors.
haha I was thinking the same
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 20, 2018, 10:06:32 PM
Dang!!! No one on Cleveland, Houston or GSW wanted to play defense today.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 20, 2018, 10:09:55 PM
LeBron is a diva and probably demands too much power within any organization he's a part of.....but I hope Ainge gives him a call after Game 4 of the Finals.

We'll tell Lebron to sign with the MLE, and also offer him the bonus services of being coached by Brad Stevens (so total value of the signing is a max contract for LBJ)  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 20, 2018, 10:32:12 PM
Dang!!! No one on Cleveland, Houston or GSW wanted to play defense today.

Rockets/GSW game is so boring to watch. Chuck 3s, isos,few pnrs and almost 0 defense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on January 20, 2018, 10:47:43 PM
Dang!!! No one on Cleveland, Houston or GSW wanted to play defense today.

Rockets/GSW game is so boring to watch. Chuck 3s, isos,few pnrs and almost 0 defense.

Just heated up. Slugfest.

We would really need Hayward in a game like this...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: TheisTheisBaby on January 20, 2018, 10:54:49 PM
You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3?  Good lord I can't stand either of them.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 20, 2018, 10:55:34 PM
Dang!!! No one on Cleveland, Houston or GSW wanted to play defense today.

Rockets/GSW game is so boring to watch. Chuck 3s, isos,few pnrs and almost 0 defense.

Just heated up. Slugfest.

We would really need Hayward in a game like this...

Im fairly confident our defense and Kyrie will give both teams enough problems as they already did.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 20, 2018, 10:58:11 PM
You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3?  Good lord I can't stand either of them.

Why is that? I don't think they'd make my top 10 list...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 20, 2018, 10:59:20 PM
You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3?  Good lord I can't stand either of them.

Why is that? I don't think they'd make my top 10 list...

Both have unlikable personalities. Immature, crybabies and entitled. Hard to root for these type of players.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2018, 10:59:25 PM
Houston now 2-0 vs GS this season.

I still donít buy them beating GS in the playoffs, though. Between their D and three happy gameplan, I just canít see it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 20, 2018, 11:04:04 PM
You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3?  Good lord I can't stand either of them.

Why is that? I don't think they'd make my top 10 list...

Both have unlikable personalities. Immature, crybabies and entitled. Hard to root for these type of players.

I don't care for either, but some of the others strike me as even bigger prima donnas.  Par for the course, I guess.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2018, 11:17:51 PM
You can punch one player in the face with zero repercussions would you choose Harden or CP3?  Good lord I can't stand either of them.

Definitely CP3.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 21, 2018, 12:07:41 AM
Lou Williams is either on a wildly effective cocktail of PEDs, or has mastered the art of self-care.  What the heck has gotten into this guy?  First player since Jordan to record 30 points and 10 steals. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 21, 2018, 12:13:45 AM
Some laughable officiating going on in this Dallas/Portland game.

I have to disagree with Van Gundy and Jackson. While players do complain way too often, the officiating is incredibly inconsistent from game to game (and even in individual games themselves), and there are tons of missed and bad calls each and every game.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 22, 2018, 12:14:11 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained

Time to start Kawhi trade proposals?  :)
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 22, 2018, 10:44:10 PM
DMC is tough. Wish he'd start winning eventually.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 22, 2018, 11:15:24 PM
DMC is tough. Wish he'd start winning eventually.

First 40-20-10 triple double since the 1960s.  What an animal.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 23, 2018, 01:26:31 AM
The wizards and cavs are busy fighting themselves. We might be able to cruise to the finals
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on January 23, 2018, 02:13:39 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained

Time to start Kawhi trade proposals?  :)
You're dang right it is
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on January 23, 2018, 02:30:18 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained

Time to start Kawhi trade proposals?  :)
You're dang right it is

It's almost the same situation as Davis, even if Leonard wanted out he's locked up for the next 3 seasons and the package for a top 5 player in the league still in his prime would be astronomical e.g Tatum, Brown, Salary fillers and possibly all of our remaining picks.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 23, 2018, 03:07:08 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained

Time to start Kawhi trade proposals?  :)
You're dang right it is

It's almost the same situation as Davis, even if Leonard wanted out he's locked up for the next 3 seasons and the package for a top 5 player in the league still in his prime would be astronomical e.g Tatum, Brown, Salary fillers and possibly all of our remaining picks.

Kawhi has a player option for 2019-2020.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenEnvy on January 23, 2018, 03:22:47 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained

Time to start Kawhi trade proposals?  :)
You're dang right it is

It's almost the same situation as Davis, even if Leonard wanted out he's locked up for the next 3 seasons and the package for a top 5 player in the league still in his prime would be astronomical e.g Tatum, Brown, Salary fillers and possibly all of our remaining picks.

Iíd do Tatum & Brown for Kawhi.

And the LAL/SAC pick.

I love Tatum. I am optimistic the pick conveys this year and that would be a great prospect. Brown sheís flashes of being a star.

But Kawhi is a top-3 player when healthy. A foursome of Irving/Hayward/Leonard/Horford may actually be better than GSWís.... with guys like Baynes, Morris, Smart, Rozier, Theis, MLE, etc. to round out the roster. I honestly think they could run off a few championships.

That said, itíll never happen.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on January 23, 2018, 03:31:53 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strained

Time to start Kawhi trade proposals?  :)
You're dang right it is

It's almost the same situation as Davis, even if Leonard wanted out he's locked up for the next 3 seasons and the package for a top 5 player in the league still in his prime would be astronomical e.g Tatum, Brown, Salary fillers and possibly all of our remaining picks.

Iíd do Tatum & Brown for Kawhi.

And the LAL/SAC pick.

I love Tatum. I am optimistic the pick conveys this year and that would be a great prospect. Brown sheís flashes of being a star.

But Kawhi is a top-3 player when healthy. A foursome of Irving/Hayward/Leonard/Horford may actually be better than GSWís.... with guys like Baynes, Morris, Smart, Rozier, Theis, MLE, etc. to round out the roster. I honestly think they could run off a few championships.

That said, itíll never happen.

That would make them think if a request was handed in, but like you said it's never going to happen.

If it was to happen though I actually wouldn't be too ecstatic as that whole team would be free agents and trades, I have a soft spot for drafted franchise guys. Even the Patriots with all their roster changes have Brady, Gronk, Edelman, McCourty and Gostkowski as their drafted franchise guys and it'd be quite sad if Celtics lost that.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 23, 2018, 05:25:03 AM
And then Pop would turn both Tatum and Brown in Leonard-level players.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on January 23, 2018, 05:50:49 AM
And then Pop would turn both Tatum and Brown in Leonard-level players.

Highly doubtful as Kawhi mostly made Kawhi. His measurements of a 7'3 wingspan and the ability to palm a basketball with his enormous hands are unteachable, Leonard's work ethic is second to none. When he was drafted, Kawhi bought a house for him and his mother to live in and his mother took care of cooking cleaning ect. just so Leonard could completely concentrate on basketball, there is a reason he doesn't have social media, doesn't do interviews or very few ads because he only cares about improving as a player. The biggest improvement that Pop made with him would have to be his shooting technique, free throws and perfecting his offensive repertoire.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 08:21:49 PM
LOL Pop called a timeout just 14 seconds into the game after Crowder hit a 3.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: PAOBoston on January 23, 2018, 08:28:02 PM
I truly enjoy watching the Spurs play. They are so well coached and their scouting department does an amazing job of finding good players.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 08:38:16 PM
Aldridge really looks like a different player this year. No doubt an all-star.

Averaging 22/9 consistently all season, and already has 12 points so far.

When Kawhi went down last year in the WCF, they really needed this kind of Aldridge instead of the timid and "out of place" one they got last May.

If Aldridge keeps it up and Kawhi comes back healthy late in the season, then the Spurs are just as big threats to the Warriors and Rockets.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2018, 09:06:01 PM
This Cavs D is laughable giving up this many points to this depleted Spurs team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 09:06:43 PM
YIKES. Spurs go on a 18-5 run to end the half.

Cavaliers just gave up 63 points to a Spurs team without Kawhi, Pau, Manu and Rudy Gay.  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 23, 2018, 09:27:04 PM
Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 09:31:59 PM
Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.

Love should seriously demand a trade.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 23, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.

Love should seriously demand a trade.

He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point.  I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: CelticsElite on January 23, 2018, 09:33:55 PM
Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.
lol wow
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 23, 2018, 09:37:16 PM
Do we think Lebron is ever going to just accept the fact that he's balding and just shave his head?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 09:39:28 PM
Looks like Cavaliers about to lose by double digits again.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2018, 09:40:32 PM
We need to be picking up a Lou Williams or a Tyreke Evans if we can fetch them for a decent price. This Cavs team is not coming out of the East this season, and weíve got to be considered the favorites at this point.

And hey, who knows? GS having to go through both Houston and a healthy Spurs team could weaken them just enough to give us a shot, or, hell, Gordy could even come back healthy and make us a legitimate threat to beat the Warriors. This is especially true given the injury history of that GS team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 09:54:09 PM
We need to be picking up a Lou Williams or a Tyreke Evans if we can fetch them for a decent price. This Cavs team is not coming out of the East this season, and weíve got to be considered the favorites at this point.

And hey, who knows? GS having to go through both Houston and a healthy Spurs team could weaken them just enough to give us a shot, or, hell, Gordy could even come back healthy and make us a legitimate threat to beat the Warriors. This is especially true given the injury history of that GS team.

If it were me, I would trade for Evans (2018 BOS 1st + pieces), then CUT Nader and use that open spot for a buyout signing (like Monroe or Chandler).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on January 23, 2018, 09:56:55 PM
We need to be picking up a Lou Williams or a Tyreke Evans if we can fetch them for a decent price. This Cavs team is not coming out of the East this season, and weíve got to be considered the favorites at this point.

And hey, who knows? GS having to go through both Houston and a healthy Spurs team could weaken them just enough to give us a shot, or, hell, Gordy could even come back healthy and make us a legitimate threat to beat the Warriors. This is especially true given the injury history of that GS team.

If it were me, I would trade for Evans (2018 BOS 1st + pieces), then CUT Nader and use that open spot for a buyout signing (like Monroe or Chandler).

If youíre trading ďpiecesĒ for Evans, youíll have created the roster spot and donít need to cut Nader.  (I know, you probably just want to get rid of him).
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2018, 09:58:33 PM
Murray!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 10:00:22 PM
We need to be picking up a Lou Williams or a Tyreke Evans if we can fetch them for a decent price. This Cavs team is not coming out of the East this season, and weíve got to be considered the favorites at this point.

And hey, who knows? GS having to go through both Houston and a healthy Spurs team could weaken them just enough to give us a shot, or, hell, Gordy could even come back healthy and make us a legitimate threat to beat the Warriors. This is especially true given the injury history of that GS team.

If it were me, I would trade for Evans (2018 BOS 1st + pieces), then CUT Nader and use that open spot for a buyout signing (like Monroe or Chandler).

If youíre trading ďpiecesĒ for Evans, youíll have created the roster spot and donít need to cut Nader.  (I know, you probably just want to get rid of him).

No by pieces I meant maybe some future picks (2nd rounders). Cutting Nader opens up the extra spot. Right now they have only one spot remaining in the roster, right? Evans takes one of them, and you can create another for a buyout signing like Chandler/Monroe?

Or am I overcomplicating all of this...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 10:03:04 PM
Cavaliers on track to give up 120 to this Spurs team without Manu, Pau, Gay and Kawhi...
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 23, 2018, 10:03:05 PM
Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.

Love should seriously demand a trade.

He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point.  I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.

I wouldn't be shocked if he has lost some motivation, to be honest.  Lol @ 'Stockholm syndrome.'  TP, tar.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2018, 10:06:10 PM
Wow, Lebron looks pretty flustered out there. Trying to do everything himself now.

I can see the 2010 playoffs occurring all over again this spring.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2018, 10:07:31 PM
Kevin Love was just knocked to the ground and not a single teammate helped him up. Sheesh.

Love should seriously demand a trade.

He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point.  I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.

I wouldn't be shocked if he has lost some motivation, to be honest.  Lol @ 'Stockholm syndrome.'  TP, tar.

I actually do feel pretty bad for Love. He seems like a nice guy who's just a bit quiet and always catches the crap from that team.

It'd be funny to see him demand a trade, but I just don't see that in his character.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 23, 2018, 10:08:16 PM
Murray!

Did he do the classic Michael Finley post-dunk headbutt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wxK9ijpz38
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2018, 10:10:52 PM
FEAR NOT! GEORGE HILL TO THE RESCUE!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2018, 10:13:43 PM
FEAR NOT! GEORGE HILL TO THE RESCUE!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I really don't see how Hill helps either. He legitimately is one of the worst defenders in the league statistically - 3rd worst defensive rating I believe. Now, some of that is due to Sacramento's terrible team D, but Cleveland is legitimately just as bad defensively, so not sure how he would help.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 23, 2018, 10:15:41 PM

He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point.  I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.

I wouldn't be shocked if he has lost some motivation, to be honest.  Lol @ 'Stockholm syndrome.'  TP, tar.

I actually do feel pretty bad for Love. He seems like a nice guy who's just a bit quiet and always catches the crap from that team.

It'd be funny to see him demand a trade, but I just don't see that in his character.

I don't see it in his character to do so either, but he should. He's pretty much done everything he's been asked to do even when he's asked to step into a role he's clearly not comfortable in, and doesn't complain or pout or talk to the media. It sucks that he's constantly the fall guy.

He's the one guy on that team that seems to legitimately care more about winning than personal stats/status.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 23, 2018, 10:23:48 PM
Nets choke.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 23, 2018, 10:38:22 PM

He probably has Stockholm syndrome as this point.  I suspect he's too mentally broken to even desire a trade.

I wouldn't be shocked if he has lost some motivation, to be honest.  Lol @ 'Stockholm syndrome.'  TP, tar.

I actually do feel pretty bad for Love. He seems like a nice guy who's just a bit quiet and always catches the crap from that team.

It'd be funny to see him demand a trade, but I just don't see that in his character.

I don't see it in his character to do so either, but he should. He's pretty much done everything he's been asked to do even when he's asked to step into a role he's clearly not comfortable in, and doesn't complain or pout or talk to the media. It sucks that he's constantly the fall guy.

He's the one guy on that team that seems to legitimately care more about winning than personal stats/status.

With how well suited the NBA is for bigs that can space the floor, he may have had a lot more personal successes and enjoyment in a different environment.  May be a tough pill to swallow.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 23, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
Nobody Cavs can get will move the needle .....unless they spend the Nets pick or k Love. .....their really only true assets others than LeDiva himself.

So.......basically imdon' think Gilbert and LeDiva are best buds anymore and neither trusts the  other to comitt long term......mutal team destruction is about to occur . 

Cavs now on the way back to bottom of the pecking order in NBA .....their rightful postion.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on January 25, 2018, 12:01:52 AM
Simmons with a monster game. Joins this list with those stats in a single game:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=N&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=ast&c1comp=gt&c1val=14&c2stat=pts&c2comp=gt&c2val=19&c3stat=trb&c3comp=gt&c3val=17&order_by=pts
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: liam on January 25, 2018, 10:08:16 PM
The Kings won one!
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 25, 2018, 10:51:06 PM
Denver just might win over NY.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: saltlover on January 25, 2018, 11:12:02 PM
The Kings won one!

Fox with a huge putback slam to win the game.  I think the Kings have done a terrible job the last decade, but that was the right pick.  Heís going to be the player that turns that franchise around thanks to his competitiveness.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 26, 2018, 09:07:26 PM
IT playing like poo again.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 26, 2018, 09:19:30 PM
Cavs looking much better with Crowder coming off the bench.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 26, 2018, 09:41:01 PM
You got to feel bad for IT. He clearly has no confidence right now, and he looks miserable out there, which is clearly understandable.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 26, 2018, 09:51:47 PM
Cavs got the win but it doesn't look impressive. They were collapsing in the final stretch. They were lucky to have a comfortable lead.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 26, 2018, 10:15:21 PM
Lakers and Bulls close with 2 minutes left.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 27, 2018, 12:15:21 AM
Lou Williams tonight: 40 points and 10 assists.  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: mr. dee on January 27, 2018, 01:14:47 AM
Terrible night for our Laker pick but kinda good for HCA as both Raptors and Rockets lost.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 28, 2018, 05:07:43 PM
It'll be interesting to see how much the loss of Roberson affects OKC.  Per https://twitter.com/MicahAdams13:

Quote
Westbrook, George, Carmelo, Adams all on the floor together this season...

Def rating with Roberson: 96.6
Def rating without Roberson: 114.5

One man causes a 4 man rotation to go from worst to first defensively.

Major blow to OKC defense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 28, 2018, 07:14:45 PM
Pistons up 61-58 on the Cavaliers at half time. Cavaliers defense looking bad again.

Meanwhile, Isaiah having another bad game, with just 4 points on 1/6 shooting.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 28, 2018, 07:21:58 PM
Pistons up 61-58 on the Cavaliers at half time. Cavaliers defense looking bad again.

Meanwhile, Isaiah having another bad game, with just 4 points on 1/6 shooting.
Also worth noting that the Pistons are once again playing well without AB.

Fairly disturbing trend for him that's continued since leaving Boston; his teams improve when he's not on the floor.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 28, 2018, 08:11:08 PM
Boston needs to get going. Toronto 1 game out of first. Think it is very important for Boston not to have to go through Cleveland and Toronto in the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 28, 2018, 08:15:20 PM
Pistons up 61-58 on the Cavaliers at half time. Cavaliers defense looking bad again.

Meanwhile, Isaiah having another bad game, with just 4 points on 1/6 shooting.
Also worth noting that the Pistons are once again playing well without AB.

Fairly disturbing trend for him that's continued since leaving Boston; his teams improve when he's not on the floor.

The interesting thing about Avery is that advanced stats don't back him up as an elite defender. I think he's a very good on ball defender and that's contributed to a lot of hype, but his team defense is mediocre.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 28, 2018, 08:15:56 PM
Interesting to note that IT has not played down the stretch here in Cleveland. Heís played primarily with the bench as their scorer, which I think is probably his best fit on this team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 28, 2018, 08:18:42 PM
Boston needs to get going. Toronto 1 game out of first. Think it is very important for Boston not to have to go through Cleveland and Toronto in the playoffs.

True, but I'm happy as it's the Lakers that lost. Just gotta believe from here on out  :P
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 30, 2018, 08:34:47 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 30, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
Interesting to note that IT has not played down the stretch here in Cleveland. Heís played primarily with the bench as their scorer, which I think is probably his best fit on this team.

he s not going to be happy play n second  string
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on January 30, 2018, 09:12:17 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on January 30, 2018, 09:14:29 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 30, 2018, 09:17:04 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.

Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032

Quote
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.

So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.

EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080

Quote
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on January 30, 2018, 09:20:16 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.

Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032

Quote
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.

So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.

EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080

Quote
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks

Gotchya. I just caught the tail end of the report. Maybe they had prefaced it more.

Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on January 30, 2018, 09:21:50 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.

Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032

Quote
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.

So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.

EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080

Quote
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks

Nik Vucevic sustained a similar injury on Dec 23rd and is still out.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on January 30, 2018, 09:24:34 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.

Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032

Quote
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.

So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.

EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080

Quote
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks

Gotchya. I just caught the tail end of the report. Maybe they had prefaced it more.

Thanks for the clarification.

No, you wrote it exactly how he stated it. I was watching the game and it was so obvious that he misspoke when he described as a dislocation of the fifth metacarpal.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on January 30, 2018, 09:26:25 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.

It's the metacarpal bone of his pinky.  I've played with it broken.  Too early for you guys to start bunching up your jammies yet.  But realize you're on the edge of wishing injury on others so that you can be "right" about CLE

That's a boxer's fracture.  Did he punch s/t?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: hpantazo on January 30, 2018, 09:26:45 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.

Yep, this is what McMenamin is reporting. Tough blow for Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/958523157085868032

Quote
The X-ray on Kevin Love's left hand revealed a non-displaced fracture in his left hand fifth metacarpal. Love will not return to play tonight. His status will be updated after additional examination and consultation tomorrow in Cleveland, per the Cavs.

So you have to wonder where this takes them regarding the trade deadline now.

EDIT: I'm seeing 6-8 weeks projected recovery time. Ouch!

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/958523220470190080

Quote
Kevin Love likely out 6-8 weeks

He'd be back well in time for the playoff then. Its just that the team won't have a chance to gel with IT before the 1st round, assuming the rest of them stay healthy. I'm guessing Crowder takes his minutes in the meantime.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 30, 2018, 09:29:10 PM
Really important to make the Cavs go through the Raptors before they get Boston
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Eddie20 on January 30, 2018, 09:29:51 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.

It's the metacarpal bone of his pinky.  I've played with it broken.  Too early for you guys to start bunching up your jammies yet.  But realize you're on the edge of wishing injury on others so that you can be "right" about CLE

Easy there "C's fan", I'm just stating what happened. But realize that you're on the edge of thinking injury was wished upon another player simply because you've been completely wrong about IT.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: nickagneta on January 30, 2018, 09:35:42 PM
Yikes. Love went back to the locker room holding his hand, and he's currently getting x-rays to check for a broken hand, which he's had before in his career. That'd be a major blow to an already struggling Cavs team.

They just reported it was a dislocation, not a break. I'm not sure what the rehab time on that it, but you'd think that would be better than a break.

lol

It's a non-displaced fracture. I'm sure that's what "Dr. Scott" meant to say. So in layman's terms, he broke his hand.

It's the metacarpal bone of his pinky.  I've played with it broken.  Too early for you guys to start bunching up your jammies yet.  But realize you're on the edge of wishing injury on others so that you can be "right" about CLE

Easy there "C's fan", I'm just stating what happened. But realize that you're on the edge of thinking injury was wished upon another player simply because you've been completely wrong about IT.

I can see this conversation is going nowhere constructive so lets end it before it begins.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 30, 2018, 09:45:59 PM
Lol this Cavs D is so laughable. It's literally Drummond and a bunch of bench players out there, yet they're up double digits still.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 30, 2018, 09:47:15 PM
Although I still think DET was stupid to make that awful trade, I am curious to see how Griffin - Drummond duo work on the court.

Who knows, maybe I'll be proven wrong and look like an idiot.  :P
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: azzenfrost on January 30, 2018, 10:06:18 PM
When does Griffin and company appear in Detroit? Next game?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 30, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
James Harden is insane.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 30, 2018, 10:20:41 PM
WOW. Harden with 60 points, 10 rebounds, 11 assists in a Rockets win  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 30, 2018, 10:23:51 PM
The Cavaliers are having trouble against a Pistons team with Drummond + not much.

They lost Love, sure, but still have Isaiah, Lebron, etc.

And WHOA, Drummond has 18 points, 19 rebounds and 6 assists...  :o

Pistons now an a 14-2 run.


Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 30, 2018, 10:31:15 PM
Cavs play no defense and canít even keep up with Detroit who is undermanned
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 30, 2018, 10:31:27 PM
Pistons literally creaming the Cavaliers late and about to put up 130 on them. Horrid defense.

This is WITHOUT Griffin, Harris and Bradley playing for them LOL.

Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: jpotter33 on January 30, 2018, 10:32:44 PM
This Cavs team is in deep, deep trouble. They're literally losing to Drummond and bench scrubs right now. Giving up 125+ to this team is insane. Without Love they just don't have the personnel to simply outscore their opponents anymore.

It'll be interesting to see if they panic at the deadline and trade that Brooklyn pick. From all of the articles I've read so far, I can't see Gilbert trading it without some sort of guarantee from Lebron.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticinorlando on January 30, 2018, 10:33:57 PM
Toronto Toronto Toronto

They are the biggest challenge to Boston
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 30, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
This Cavs team is in deep, deep trouble. They're literally losing to Drummond and bench scrubs right now. Giving up 130+ to this team is insane. Without Love they just don't have the personnel to simply outscore their opponents anymore.

It'll be interesting to see if they panic at the deadline and trade that Brooklyn pick. From all of the articles I've read so far, I can't see Gilbert trading it without some sort of guarantee from Lebron.

Call me crazy, but while you were thinking about trading LBJ in the mock trade thread, I think we could actually soon see rumblings about LBJ wanting out of CLE, or some LBJ-Gilbert feud that leads to it (regarding trading or not trading Nets Pick)  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 30, 2018, 10:37:16 PM
Isaiah was -25 tonight. Yikes.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: GreenEnvy on January 30, 2018, 10:37:55 PM
WOW. Harden with 60 points, 10 rebounds, 11 assists in a Rockets win  :o

Thatís unbelievable.


Still donít trust him in the playoffs. At all.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Phantom255x on January 30, 2018, 10:52:10 PM
Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors...  :o
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: celticsclay on January 30, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
Cleveland is awful
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on January 30, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Denver lose to the Spurs almost exactly the same as last night.. Barton missing a game winning buzzer beater.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: gouki88 on January 30, 2018, 11:09:19 PM
This Cavs team is in deep, deep trouble. They're literally losing to Drummond and bench scrubs right now. Giving up 130+ to this team is insane. Without Love they just don't have the personnel to simply outscore their opponents anymore.

It'll be interesting to see if they panic at the deadline and trade that Brooklyn pick. From all of the articles I've read so far, I can't see Gilbert trading it without some sort of guarantee from Lebron.

Call me crazy, but while you were thinking about trading LBJ in the mock trade thread, I think we could actually soon see rumblings about LBJ wanting out of CLE, or some LBJ-Gilbert feud that leads to it (regarding trading or not trading Nets Pick)  :o
Don't say that ;D

However, that Cavs performance was truly pathetic. Tolliver and Johnson crushed them
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on January 31, 2018, 12:14:05 AM
Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors...  :o

Yeah, the sub-.500 Jazz absolutely crush the Warriors, but the first-place Celtics couldn't eke out a win. Figures. >:(
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: Rondo9 on January 31, 2018, 12:26:24 AM
Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors...  :o

Yeah, the sub-.500 Jazz absolutely crush the Warriors, but the first-place Celtics couldn't eke out a win. Figures. >:(

Didn't they beat the warriors earlier?
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: trickybilly on January 31, 2018, 01:31:36 AM
Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors...  :o

Yeah, the sub-.500 Jazz absolutely crush the Warriors, but the first-place Celtics couldn't eke out a win. Figures. >:(

It happens. Jazz go 14/28, Warriors 5/20 from three.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: KGs Knee on January 31, 2018, 01:49:25 AM
Meanwhile, the Jazz are destroying the Warriors...  :o

Yeah, the sub-.500 Jazz absolutely crush the Warriors, but the first-place Celtics couldn't eke out a win. Figures. >:(

It happens. Jazz go 14/28, Warriors 5/20 from three.

Joe Ingles
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: RJ87 on January 31, 2018, 10:45:48 PM
Yikes. This Suns/Mavs game is a brutal watch.

I never want to see the C's be a bottom dweller again.
Title: Re: 2017-18 NBA Season
Post by: ImShakHe