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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: droopdog7 on October 18, 2017, 12:19:45 AM
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Marcus is an absolute pitbull. Plays all out and that's great. But he simply does not have the tools to be a good offensive player. I want to minimize his time on the court with Kyrie. Kyrie needs have the ball in his hands when he's on the court. Period.
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Yea I agree. I liked a few of the looks Kyrie got playing off the ball, but i hated that he didn't have the ball more when they went with Smart. I'm not sure that's what Kyrie is best served as, but maybe they are saving that. Still in shock tho. [dang]
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Smarts somewhat sloppy play style works well off the bench without kyrie
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Well they really didnt have much option this game. Would be much better when Morris returns imho.
With that said I think its a good idea to sign Gerald Green to eat up some minutes so we can stagger the players minutes better. Tough to play Brown 39 mins but we really dont have a choice today.
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Well they really didnt have much option this game. Would be much better when Morris returns imho.
With that said I think its a good idea to sign Gerald Green to eat up some minutes so we can stagger the players minutes better. Tough to play Brown 39 mins but we really dont have a choice today.
Gerald Green? Seriously? Lol, just play the kids, instead. #BaptismByFire
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Well they really didnt have much option this game. Would be much better when Morris returns imho.
With that said I think its a good idea to sign Gerald Green to eat up some minutes so we can stagger the players minutes better. Tough to play Brown 39 mins but we really dont have a choice today.
Gerald Green? Seriously? Lol, just play the kids, instead. #BaptismByFire
What happens when Tatum had to sit down due to foul trouble? How about Brown, do you play him 39 minutes a night? Nader and Ojeleye, both cannot be counted on this early. When worse comes to worst having someone who can soak up minutes, a vet who already knows your system, is very handy.
If you think Gerald Green is being brought back to eat up Haywards minutes you are sadly mistaken.
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Well they really didnt have much option this game. Would be much better when Morris returns imho.
With that said I think its a good idea to sign Gerald Green to eat up some minutes so we can stagger the players minutes better. Tough to play Brown 39 mins but we really dont have a choice today.
Gerald Green? Seriously? Lol, just play the kids, instead. #BaptismByFire
What happens when Tatum had to sit down due to foul trouble? How about Brown, do you play him 39 minutes a night? Nader and Ojeleye, both cannot be counted on this early. When worse comes to worst having someone who can soak up minutes, a vet who already knows your system, is very handy.
If you think Gerald Green is being brought back to eat up Haywards minutes you are sadly mistaken.
Sure, but given that our season pretty much just went out the window I see no harm in playing guys like Semi and Yabu, maybe even in a starting role (and my vote would be for Semi in such a capacity). It's the best of both worlds, imo. We get a good look at our young guys to see who can and who can't play moving forward, and when Hayward comes back at some point, we'll have more youth with actual playing experience to supplement our starting five. Seriously, what's the harm? It's better to use this opportunity to see what we have, if anything, moving forward, than to waste it, imo, and if we do want to sign another player there's always the undrafted market. Jarrod Uthoff, Peter Jok, and Nigel Hayes come to mind as guys who could help 2-4, even though that won't happen so relax, lol :laugh:. I'd also vouch for Antonius Cleveland, here, but I believe that he's playing in Australia as of right now :'(, so I'm not sure if we'd have to buy him out or whatever, but yeah, there are certainly better options out there than Gerald Green, imo, even though I know that that doesn't count for anything, lol :laugh:.
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Well they really didnt have much option this game. Would be much better when Morris returns imho.
With that said I think its a good idea to sign Gerald Green to eat up some minutes so we can stagger the players minutes better. Tough to play Brown 39 mins but we really dont have a choice today.
Gerald Green? Seriously? Lol, just play the kids, instead. #BaptismByFire
What happens when Tatum had to sit down due to foul trouble? How about Brown, do you play him 39 minutes a night? Nader and Ojeleye, both cannot be counted on this early. When worse comes to worst having someone who can soak up minutes, a vet who already knows your system, is very handy.
If you think Gerald Green is being brought back to eat up Haywards minutes you are sadly mistaken.
Sure, but given that our season pretty much just went out the window I see no harm in playing guys like Semi and Yabu, maybe even in a starting role (and my vote would be for Semi in such a capacity). It's the best of both worlds, imo. We get a good look at our young guys to see who can and who can't play moving forward, and when Hayward comes back at some point, we'll have more youth with actual playing experience to supplement our starting five. Seriously, what's the harm? It's better to use this opportunity to see what we have, if anything, moving forward, than to waste it, imo, and if we do want to sign another player there's always the undrafted market. Jarrod Uthoff, Peter Jok, and Nigel Hayes come to mind as guys who could help 2-4, even though that won't happen so relax, lol :laugh:. I'd also vouch for Antonius Cleveland, here, but I believe that he's playing in Australia as of right now :'(, so I'm not sure if we'd have to buy him out or whatever, but yeah, there are certainly better options out there than Gerald Green, imo, even though I know that that doesn't count for anything, lol :laugh:.
I'm sorry but since when has that been a given? Nothing is certain, just like we werent certain Hayward was going to suffer an injury first game of the season.
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I think if you have Smart with the starters you have better chances to reduce his shot volume. Irving, Brown and Horford would pull shots away. We saw how many shots Smart took when paired with the 2nd unit tonight. He turned into last season's Smart. Put him with the starters who don't need him to score.
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I think if you have Smart with the starters you have better chances to reduce his shot volume. Irving, Brown and Horford would pull shots away. We saw how many shots Smart took when paired with the 2nd unit tonight. He turned into last season's Smart. Put him with the starters who don't need him to score.
That's the problem in my book. He's already taking away from the starters shot volume. I'd rather put him on the bench to prevent that.
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Well they really didnt have much option this game. Would be much better when Morris returns imho.
With that said I think its a good idea to sign Gerald Green to eat up some minutes so we can stagger the players minutes better. Tough to play Brown 39 mins but we really dont have a choice today.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.... Gerald Green
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Smart needs to settle down. Sometimes he pushes a little too much but I think it's part of what makes him great on the defensive end. He just needs to ease into the offense a little more...
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I think they're going to start Morris/Brown/Tatum when Morris is back.
Till then Smart is fine at SG. The other option could be Baynes at the 5 and shifting Tatum to the wing, but we'll see.
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A quick look at Marcus Smart's stats for his first 3 years don't give me any hope that it would be a good think to make him the starting PG...He still hasn't learned to shoot and I doubt he ever will. Celtics knew he couldn't shoot in college and still drafted him...
2014 7.8 pts 36.7% FG 33.5% 3PT
2015 9.1 pts 34.8% FG 25.3% 3PT
2016 10.6 pts 35.9% FG 28.3% 3PT
Celtics fans those are terrible stats no way around it.
MikeB Celtics fan for 50+ yrs
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When Morris returns, maybe you start him at the 4, Tatum at the three and Brown at the 2.
I do like the idea of Tatum now getting the bulk of his minutes at the three as he is developing.
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Whomever starts the game at the two.
Smart always finishes the game.
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The first half wasn't good - like it was a carry over from his worst offense from last season. the second half was when he was more effective. drove much better and was very effective playing in the post. the cleveland guards couldn't defend him.
it was the tale of 2 Smarts. it was the worst of times, it was the best of times.
personally, I think Brad needs to use Smart in the same capacity going forward that he used him in the second half. limited outside shooting until he develops that shot consistently. thought he made progress in preseason but man that first half yesterday was brutal. to be fair, the whole team's shooting in the first half was brutal from 3.
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Kyrie
Brown
Tatum
Morris
Horford
Looks good to me. Without Gordon the only way we are going to contend are if Tatum and Brown grow up this year. If they don't get good enough this year to help us contend, they will still be better when we get Hayward back. It's going to take Hayward time to get back into playing shape even if he does come back this year.
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Whomever starts the game at the two.
Smart always finishes the game.
yeah I expect the lineup to be Irving/Brown/Tatum/Morris/Horford to start the game, but down the stretch I need Irving Smart and Horford on the floor no matter what.
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Whomever starts the game at the two.
Smart always finishes the game.
yeah I expect the lineup to be Irving/Brown/Tatum/Morris/Horford to start the game, but down the stretch I need Irving Smart and Horford on the floor no matter what.
I don't think Smart should finish games either. He's only going to get in the way on the offensive end.
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Whomever starts the game at the two.
Smart always finishes the game.
yeah I expect the lineup to be Irving/Brown/Tatum/Morris/Horford to start the game, but down the stretch I need Irving Smart and Horford on the floor no matter what.
I don't think Smart should finish games either. He's only going to get in the way on the offensive end.
What?! While he isn't going to dazzle you with his offense, he is able to hit his free-throws and has been known to hit a clutch 3 here and there.
But that doesn't even matter - when the game is close, Smart is diving on the floor, taking the balls out of players' hands, and playing elite level defense. The only reason I am worried about losing Smart to FA next year is because I am not sure how the Cs can possibly play without him at the end of close games. He could sit for the first 3 quarters and he would still be a plus.