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Title: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell instead of Semi in the draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on October 10, 2017, 05:51:32 PM
https://youtu.be/SKtSqvfelFY

I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but he’s looking like a lighter version of Draymond

 

Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Big333223 on October 10, 2017, 06:05:03 PM
Can we have a moratorium on comparing every single slightly undersized PF to Draymond Green? This kid's game really doesn't look like Draymond at all.

He looks good so far. It'll take more than 3 preseason games before we can say not drafting him was a "mess up" though.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Bucketgetter on October 10, 2017, 06:07:58 PM
https://youtu.be/SKtSqvfelFY

I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but he’s looking like a lighter version of Draymond
Lol
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Eddie20 on October 10, 2017, 06:14:51 PM
https://youtu.be/SKtSqvfelFY

I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but he’s looking like a lighter version of Draymond

Sure, except for the fact he can't shoot, dribble, or pass he looks exactly like Draymond.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Tr1boy on October 10, 2017, 06:17:47 PM
https://youtu.be/SKtSqvfelFY

I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but he’s looking like a lighter version of Draymond

You saw Semi go 4-7 from 3 and play solid D the other night...did you not?

Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on October 10, 2017, 06:22:19 PM
https://youtu.be/SKtSqvfelFY

I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but he’s looking like a lighter version of Draymond

Well as long as you aren't jumping to conclusions...
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: liam on October 10, 2017, 06:23:03 PM
I think both guys are 2nd round steals that should've gone in the 1st round. The Bulls sold this pick for cash when they desperately need talent. That's the saddest part of the story. The Bulls need a good front office cleaning. I think Semi might fit Brad's system better because of his shooting but Jordan Bell looks like he's going to a good energy big. The Warriors are not as in need of shooting and just need some hustle off the bench.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Beat LA on October 11, 2017, 02:25:04 AM
Can we have a moratorium on comparing every single slightly undersized PF to Draymond Green? This kid's game really doesn't look like Draymond at all.

He looks good so far. It'll take more than 3 preseason games before we can say not drafting him was a "mess up" though.

Not until we have one for comparing every 6'11-7'0+ guy from Europe who can shoot threes to Dirk Nowitzki :laugh:.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: moiso on October 11, 2017, 04:33:04 AM
Can we have a moratorium on comparing every single slightly undersized PF to Draymond Green? This kid's game really doesn't look like Draymond at all.

He looks good so far. It'll take more than 3 preseason games before we can say not drafting him was a "mess up" though.

Not until we have one for comparing every 6'11-7'0+ guy from Europe who can shoot threes to Dirk Nowitzki :laugh:.
At least most of these Dirk guys are tall and can shoot.  Some of the Draymond guys are total opposites as players.  Pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 11, 2017, 06:49:07 AM
Kuzma is the guy I wish we took
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: A Future of Stevens on October 11, 2017, 06:49:55 AM
Can we have a moratorium on comparing every single slightly undersized PF to Draymond Green? This kid's game really doesn't look like Draymond at all.

He looks good so far. It'll take more than 3 preseason games before we can say not drafting him was a "mess up" though.

Not until we have one for comparing every 6'11-7'0+ guy from Europe who can shoot threes to Dirk Nowitzki :laugh:.

Blasphemy. Every white guy over 6'11 who has good form IS Dirk. They just need to realize it. Mark my words, Andrea Bargs is gonna put it together one day.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 11, 2017, 06:56:54 AM
Kuzma is the guy I wish we took
Kuzma was taken at 27 and we didn't pick until 37. 
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: DooVoo on October 11, 2017, 07:32:49 AM
Kuzma is the guy I wish we took

How could we have taken a player at #37 that was already gone at #27? I'll wait.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: DooVoo on October 11, 2017, 07:35:24 AM
https://youtu.be/SKtSqvfelFY

I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but he’s looking like a lighter version of Draymond

You saw Semi go 4-7 from 3 and play solid D the other night...did you not?
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Somewhere on the internet some silly fan is starting a thread "Did (insert the name of their team's GM) mess up by not taking Semi Ojeleye?
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Big333223 on October 11, 2017, 07:55:20 PM
Can we have a moratorium on comparing every single slightly undersized PF to Draymond Green? This kid's game really doesn't look like Draymond at all.

He looks good so far. It'll take more than 3 preseason games before we can say not drafting him was a "mess up" though.

Not until we have one for comparing every 6'11-7'0+ guy from Europe who can shoot threes to Dirk Nowitzki :laugh:.
I will sign that petition.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Beat LA on October 17, 2017, 02:56:30 AM
As long as we're going down the all star comparison route :laugh:, wouldn't a better one be a better offensive version of Ben Wallace, albeit 15/16 pounds lighter?  Just thought that I'd go ahead and throw that one out there :laugh:.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Androslav on October 17, 2017, 04:36:09 AM
https://youtu.be/SKtSqvfelFY

I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but he’s looking like a lighter version of Draymond
You think we should have taken him with the 1st or, after the trade, with the 3rd pick of the draft?
He wasn't available when Semi was picked.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Celtics4ever on October 17, 2017, 06:13:45 AM
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How could we have taken a player at #37 that was already gone at #27? I'll wait.

Duh, trading back into the draft. 
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: greece66 on October 17, 2017, 07:22:30 AM
As long as we're going down the all star comparison route :laugh:, wouldn't a better one be a better offensive version of Ben Wallace, albeit 15/16 pounds lighter?  Just thought that I'd go ahead and throw that one out there :laugh:.

His passing is better than Jokic and his D compares to KG.

I dont know whom we are talking about  :angel: , but if Danny missed on him, he must be GOAT material  ;)
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: slamtheking on October 17, 2017, 08:54:51 AM
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How could we have taken a player at #37 that was already gone at #27? I'll wait.

Duh, trading back into the draft. 
trading back again from #3 or trading some future asset just to make another 2nd round pick for a marginal player when we already had an overloaded roster where we had to purge AB for cap room and let several other players on the roster go so that we'd be in a position to sign Hayward? 
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: Beat LA on October 18, 2017, 01:39:09 AM
As long as we're going down the all star comparison route :laugh:, wouldn't a better one be a better offensive version of Ben Wallace, albeit 15/16 pounds lighter?  Just thought that I'd go ahead and throw that one out there :laugh:.

His passing is better than Jokic and his D compares to KG.

I dont know whom we are talking about  :angel: , but if Danny missed on him, he must be GOAT material  ;)

Obviously, lol - TP, man :laugh:. A 6'9 version of Nerlens Noel without the knee issues is probably a better, albeit similarly lofty, comparison, anyway :laugh:.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell?
Post by: CelticsElite on December 19, 2017, 01:35:37 PM
Jordan bell
In less minutes than semi (12 per game)

4.5 pts / 3.1 rb/ 1.4 assist/ 1.1 block


Semi in 14 minutes
2.6 pts / 2.1 rb / 0.2 assists
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell instead of Semi in the draft?
Post by: playdream on December 19, 2017, 01:42:08 PM
Can Jordan bell do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v04s3avrgY
I will wait
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell instead of Semi in the draft?
Post by: shake603 on December 19, 2017, 01:47:13 PM
These guys both landed in perfect situations.
I loved Bell in the draft but Semi is the guy for us.
You're over-thinking it.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell instead of Semi in the draft?
Post by: celticsclay on December 19, 2017, 03:05:54 PM
This is a really weird thread. Two guys that have shown flashes and weren't even available at the same in the draft?
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell instead of Semi in the draft?
Post by: ETNCeltics on December 19, 2017, 03:38:01 PM
This is a really weird thread. Two guys that have shown flashes and weren't even available at the same in the draft?

Bell was drafted one spot after Semi.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell instead of Semi in the draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on December 19, 2017, 03:39:11 PM
This is a really weird thread. Two guys that have shown flashes and weren't even available at the same in the draft?

Bell was drafted one spot after Semi.
not just that but bell was acquired for cash. We could have gotten both guys
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell instead of Semi in the draft?
Post by: PhoSita on December 19, 2017, 03:40:09 PM
I'm going to say no.  Bell is probably more talented, but Semi is playing a role that Bell could not have -- defending several different positions while operating as a spot up shooter and hustle guy on the offensive end.

So far, Semi looks to me like a very raw version of Jae Crowder, which is high praise for any first year second round pick.  He probably has higher upside defensively, too, given that he's significantly taller (and even more built) than Crowder.
Title: Re: Did Danny mess up by not taking Jordan Bell instead of Semi in the draft?
Post by: ETNCeltics on December 19, 2017, 03:50:40 PM
Bell can defend the post, something we are lacking. Semi appears to be a better perimeter defender.

At this point, neither gives you much of anything offensively. Bell is showing that he is an elite shot blocker.

I was big on drafting Bell later in the draft up until the Final 4. On back to back free throw misses in the UNC game, Kennedy Meeks (iirc) went over Bell's back and got game changing rebounds in the last few seconds. A leaper like him just can't let that happen, especially in the most important moments of his career to date.