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Beyond the Association => College Basketball => Topic started by: stb on September 27, 2017, 11:39:57 AM
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20835336/louisville-basketball-coach-rick-pitino-tells-staff-expects-lose-job
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Why do bad things happen to such good people? A real shame.
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If they paid a player 100k, he should lose his job.
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Woj is reporting that he's been probing NBA teams about a potential NBA comeback, though he's received no interest so far.
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Why do bad things happen to such good people? A real shame.
TP
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It is official. He is fired. So is the AD Tom Jurich. Frontpage of ESPN.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20834710/louisville-head-coach-rick-pitino-athletic-director-tom-jurich-out
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Reportedly the AD was fired for refusing to fire Pitino himself. Way to fall on your sword there champ.
Woj also reports Pitino's been looking for an NBA job but no one is interested ;D
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dang ....yeah I d say his coaching days anywhere is over . Escort s for recuiting purposes.
He can say hey to to Paterno one day. Sports sucked in this world ....LOL
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Woj is reporting that he's been probing NBA teams about a potential NBA comeback, though he's received no interest so far.
Can't imagine why.
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20835336/louisville-basketball-coach-rick-pitino-tells-staff-expects-lose-job
Success is a choice.
Why do bad things happen to such good people? A real shame.
Because success is a choice.
Reportedly the AD was fired for refusing to fire Pitino himself. Way to fall on your sword there champ.
Woj also reports Pitino's been looking for an NBA job but no one is interested ;D
Success is a choice.
Woj is reporting that he's been probing NBA teams about a potential NBA comeback, though he's received no interest so far.
Can't imagine why.
Simple: because success is a choice.
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Lest anyone think maybe I have Message-Board Tourettes: know your history! (http://www.powells.com/book/success-is-a-choice-9780553066685/17-1)
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Pitino is as sleezy as it gets, there's no denying that.
But screw the NCAA. You know what is unethical, not being allowed to pay college players. The NCAA officials are the ones who deserve to be thrown in jail, not the people paying these athletes what is rightfully theirs.
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Pitino is as sleezy as it gets, there's no denying that.
But screw the NCAA. You know what is unethical, not being allowed to pay college players. The NCAA officials are the ones who deserve to be thrown in jail, not the people paying these athletes what is rightfully theirs.
You can't say it's rightfully theirs when it's not. It's against the rules. Plain and simple. That's the system that these athlete's operate under so that's the rules they and the organizations are expected to follow. Your argument is the same as saying that the desk that you work at during work hours is rightfully yours because you sit there and your boss doesn't. It doesn't work like that.
Also, though it doesn't matter to the argument I'm making, these athletes are far from crying poverty. The schools take care of them without the need for monetary compensation.
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Pretty predictable once it was leaked that the FBI probe was looking at the University of Louisville. As the FBI investigation expands my guess is we will see more of this.
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Pitino is as sleezy as it gets, there's no denying that.
But screw the NCAA. You know what is unethical, not being allowed to pay college players. The NCAA officials are the ones who deserve to be thrown in jail, not the people paying these athletes what is rightfully theirs.
You can't say it's rightfully theirs when it's not. It's against the rules. Plain and simple. That's the system that these athlete's operate under so that's the rules they and the organizations are expected to follow. Your argument is the same as saying that the desk that you work at during work hours is rightfully yours because you sit there and your boss doesn't. It doesn't work like that.
Also, though it doesn't matter to the argument I'm making, these athletes are far from crying poverty. The schools take care of them without the need for monetary compensation.
Anyone that has had to pay student loans knows that these players are well compensated. If they chose to leave school early and not complete their degrees, that is their own choice, but 4 years on average is 100-120 thousand dollars of tuition and room and boarding at many of these schools
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Looks like unpaid leave for Pitino and paid leave for Jurich. So not fired yet.
That said, Pitino will almost certainly be fired in 10 days when the contractual wait period is up.
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Pitino is as sleezy as it gets, there's no denying that.
But screw the NCAA. You know what is unethical, not being allowed to pay college players. The NCAA officials are the ones who deserve to be thrown in jail, not the people paying these athletes what is rightfully theirs.
You can't say it's rightfully theirs when it's not. It's against the rules. Plain and simple. That's the system that these athlete's operate under so that's the rules they and the organizations are expected to follow. Your argument is the same as saying that the desk that you work at during work hours is rightfully yours because you sit there and your boss doesn't. It doesn't work like that.
Also, though it doesn't matter to the argument I'm making, these athletes are far from crying poverty. The schools take care of them without the need for monetary compensation.
Anyone that has had to pay student loans knows that these players are well compensated. If they chose to leave school early and not complete their degrees, that is their own choice, but 4 years on average is 100-120 thousand dollars of tuition and room and boarding at many of these schools
And compared to money being made off their backs it's a drop in the bucket. The NCAA is a criminal organization exploiting people for monetary gain. The NCAA should be disbanded and all high ranking officials put in jail.
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dang ....yeah I d say his coaching days anywhere is over . Escort s for recuiting purposes.
He can say hey to to Paterno one day. Sports sucked in this world ....LOL
Paterno was a whistle blower who met his obligations under the law.
Pitino is a scum bag who could potentially go to jail. There is no comparison at all.
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If they paid a player 100k, he should lose his job.
I wonder what Calipari's guys are getting? He's the one attracting the best talent.
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It is official. He is fired. So is the AD Tom Jurich. Frontpage of ESPN.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20834710/louisville-head-coach-rick-pitino-athletic-director-tom-jurich-out
gee, success is a choice. i wonder why he didnt choose to be successful? ;D
but then again, now Louisville fans have a new chant.... pay for play!!!!!!
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Pitino is as sleezy as it gets, there's no denying that.
But screw the NCAA. You know what is unethical, not being allowed to pay college players. The NCAA officials are the ones who deserve to be thrown in jail, not the people paying these athletes what is rightfully theirs.
You can't say it's rightfully theirs when it's not. It's against the rules. Plain and simple. That's the system that these athlete's operate under so that's the rules they and the organizations are expected to follow. Your argument is the same as saying that the desk that you work at during work hours is rightfully yours because you sit there and your boss doesn't. It doesn't work like that.
Also, though it doesn't matter to the argument I'm making, these athletes are far from crying poverty. The schools take care of them without the need for monetary compensation.
Anyone that has had to pay student loans knows that these players are well compensated. If they chose to leave school early and not complete their degrees, that is their own choice, but 4 years on average is 100-120 thousand dollars of tuition and room and boarding at many of these schools
And compared to money being made off their backs it's a drop in the bucket. The NCAA is a criminal organization exploiting people for monetary gain. The NCAA should be disbanded and all high ranking officials put in jail.
overreact much? there are a herd and a half of issues in universities that need addressing before spending time jailing these guys and gals.
really, the NCAA has a ton of problems with major sports. but other sports (lacross, track and field, etc.) have benefitted greatly. the NCAA and university sports are more than just the "big two" and pros.
According to the most recent Graduation Success Rate data, 82 percent of Division I freshmen scholarship student-athletes who entered college in 2004 earned a degree. In Division II, 73 percent of freshmen student-athletes who entered college in 2004 graduated.
for non-student atheletes? it is around 59%. it might be best not judge all of the NCAA efforts based upon what is shown to us on TV on saturdays and is popular.
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So I guess you could say that he committed a...cardinal sin? ;) ::) :laugh: *groan*
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Pitino is as sleezy as it gets, there's no denying that.
But screw the NCAA. You know what is unethical, not being allowed to pay college players. The NCAA officials are the ones who deserve to be thrown in jail, not the people paying these athletes what is rightfully theirs.
You can't say it's rightfully theirs when it's not. It's against the rules. Plain and simple. That's the system that these athlete's operate under so that's the rules they and the organizations are expected to follow. Your argument is the same as saying that the desk that you work at during work hours is rightfully yours because you sit there and your boss doesn't. It doesn't work like that.
Also, though it doesn't matter to the argument I'm making, these athletes are far from crying poverty. The schools take care of them without the need for monetary compensation.
Anyone that has had to pay student loans knows that these players are well compensated. If they chose to leave school early and not complete their degrees, that is their own choice, but 4 years on average is 100-120 thousand dollars of tuition and room and boarding at many of these schools
And compared to money being made off their backs it's a drop in the bucket. The NCAA is a criminal organization exploiting people for monetary gain. The NCAA should be disbanded and all high ranking officials put in jail.
Players aren't forced to go to college. If they choose to do so, they should obey the rules.
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Pitino is as sleezy as it gets, there's no denying that.
But screw the NCAA. You know what is unethical, not being allowed to pay college players. The NCAA officials are the ones who deserve to be thrown in jail, not the people paying these athletes what is rightfully theirs.
And many many other major corporations make millions upon millions of dollars every year off the back off employees making meager salaries, so what's your point?? Yes they're not getting paid, but they're not having to pay off tuition, room, and board for however long they decide to stay.
If they don't like it they can go play in Europe, and if they do, good for them, but if you're going to play in the NCAA these are the rules
You can't say it's rightfully theirs when it's not. It's against the rules. Plain and simple. That's the system that these athlete's operate under so that's the rules they and the organizations are expected to follow. Your argument is the same as saying that the desk that you work at during work hours is rightfully yours because you sit there and your boss doesn't. It doesn't work like that.
Also, though it doesn't matter to the argument I'm making, these athletes are far from crying poverty. The schools take care of them without the need for monetary compensation.
Anyone that has had to pay student loans knows that these players are well compensated. If they chose to leave school early and not complete their degrees, that is their own choice, but 4 years on average is 100-120 thousand dollars of tuition and room and boarding at many of these schools
And compared to money being made off their backs it's a drop in the bucket. The NCAA is a criminal organization exploiting people for monetary gain. The NCAA should be disbanded and all high ranking officials put in jail.
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Pitino has a long history of being crooked. I think it just caught up with him.
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Pitino's picture is next to sleazeball in the dictionary.
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Pitino is as sleezy as it gets, there's no denying that.
But screw the NCAA. You know what is unethical, not being allowed to pay college players. The NCAA officials are the ones who deserve to be thrown in jail, not the people paying these athletes what is rightfully theirs.
You can't say it's rightfully theirs when it's not. It's against the rules. Plain and simple. That's the system that these athlete's operate under so that's the rules they and the organizations are expected to follow. Your argument is the same as saying that the desk that you work at during work hours is rightfully yours because you sit there and your boss doesn't. It doesn't work like that.
Also, though it doesn't matter to the argument I'm making, these athletes are far from crying poverty. The schools take care of them without the need for monetary compensation.
Anyone that has had to pay student loans knows that these players are well compensated. If they chose to leave school early and not complete their degrees, that is their own choice, but 4 years on average is 100-120 thousand dollars of tuition and room and boarding at many of these schools
And compared to money being made off their backs it's a drop in the bucket. The NCAA is a criminal organization exploiting people for monetary gain. The NCAA should be disbanded and all high ranking officials put in jail.
overreact much? there are a herd and a half of issues in universities that need addressing before spending time jailing these guys and gals.
really, the NCAA has a ton of problems with major sports. but other sports (lacross, track and field, etc.) have benefitted greatly. the NCAA and university sports are more than just the "big two" and pros.
According to the most recent Graduation Success Rate data, 82 percent of Division I freshmen scholarship student-athletes who entered college in 2004 earned a degree. In Division II, 73 percent of freshmen student-athletes who entered college in 2004 graduated.
for non-student atheletes? it is around 59%. it might be best not judge all of the NCAA efforts based upon what is shown to us on
TV on saturdays and is popular.
It is a LOT easier to graduate when African-American Studies' courses are CREATED for athletes to take in which they NEVER have to attend class and they have to write ONE paper that is NEVER seen nor graded by the real professor!! (See UNC!!!) And I am SURE that they are NOT the only major college doing this!!!
Smitty77
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So I guess you could say that he committed a...cardinal sin? ;) ::) :laugh: *groan*
TP for having the courage to post a joke that bad.
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Pitino just looks like a car salesman nobody likes
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My buddy tweeted this at me. This is golden.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKw0LXfUMAA8MNb.jpg)
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In Pitino's defense (sort of) the coaching job he did getting Providence to the Final 4 ranks right there with Brad's Butler team coming within a Hayward heave of winning the national title. Pitino took over a team Joe Mullaney recruited - that was terrible - implemented his uptempo style and got Providence to a Final 4. Billy Donovan the year before looked like a CYO player - fat, slow but with some talent. Pitino transformed him into a college star.
He's a good 'coach' coach. But there's the Slick Rick side which he's always had apparently.
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The Rickster is no more or less guilty of illegal recruiting than a lot of other coaches in the basketball schools. Guys who are making 7 figures to coach their teams into all that playoff money provided by TV. The big incentive for the universities--the real culprit.
Where there's big money, there's corruption, and the TV money in sports is humungous. It's why pro athletes make millions. So some ask why shouldn't college athletes get a piece of the pie? Indeed, they tried, in terms of getting paid by the schools their fair share, but the courts have stymied them so far. It hasn't stopped the big schools, however, from using their TV treasure to bait kids out of high school.
So what's the solution? Well, they could drop our TV cable bills and turn the spigot down to a trickle. Won't happen--that would make a lot of very rich people poor. Or they could pay the college players a fairer share--which might be possible. One thing that must be stopped is paying off high school kids in the recruiting process. Tougher than you think when you consider all that TV money sloshing around.
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Ughhh, more of this stuff. Pitino is no saint, but it's not like he killed anybody and the pressure has got to be through the roof.
Almost every team now has a G-League affiliate (get with it Nuggets, Pelicans, and Blazers!!). At some point, these top recruits should just be drafted out of high school and skip the college process altogether. This won't cancel college basketball, but it should alleviate some of the pressure to get the best players in the country to come to your school. It would, however, bring down revenue, but that seems reasonable given the current climate.
Even if players drafted out of high school aren't allowed to play for the parent club for a year (current rule), they can still begin to develop within their current team's coaching structure. An added bonus would be that the G-League would become more of a draw and player salaries may even reach a semi-livable level.
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It would make a lot more sense for every NBA team to have a minor league affiliate that they own and set up their own 'academy' system much like soccer does around the world. Unfortunately that costs money and the NBA - like the NFL - wants its cheap labor development system that is college hoops.
The thing is the college game right now is nothing like the NBA and the top talent stays a year and leaves. So a different development system makes sense. But its hard to beat free so unless the Justice Dept can totally shut down Div 1 college hoops and cancel the tournament - the corruption will continue.
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Bowen has been removed from Louisville's team. They will allow him to keep his scholarship and won't stand in the way of a transfer, but he won't be playing for them. Bowen is of course the player at the center of the Louisville/Adidas scandal from the summer.