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Title: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: KG Living Legend on September 25, 2017, 03:27:12 AM
Horford Baynes Theis
Morris Yabu Semi
Hayward Tatum Semi
Brown Smart Hayward
Irving Smart Rozier

 
 That's what I'm thinking. Tatum will get PF minutes and Rozier will play lots of shooting guard too. What's your depth Chart look like.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: TheSundanceKid on September 25, 2017, 03:38:55 AM
Mines almost the same, I have Theis starting alongside Horford. Morris and Baynes off the bench.

I have Yab and Nader/Semi as the 13/14th on the roster will Yab spending most of the year in Maine. Theis will fill the Amir role but with a 3 point shot. I also think Semi is more likely to play SG than Hayward at this point.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: Somebody on September 25, 2017, 03:43:19 AM
Kyrie Rozier Larkin
Brown Smart Nader
Hayward Tatum Semi
Horford Morris Yabu
Baynes Theis
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: KG Living Legend on September 25, 2017, 03:51:04 AM
Mines almost the same, I have Theis starting alongside Horford. Morris and Baynes off the bench.

I have Yab and Nader/Semi as the 13/14th on the roster will Yab spending most of the year in Maine. Theis will fill the Amir role but with a 3 point shot. I also think Semi is more likely to play SG than Hayward at this point.




 We don't have a shooting Guard we can depend on at all. Bradley leaves a Huge whole. I hope Brown is but he's around raw, I hope smart is but he can't be shoot.

 So Hayward is the surest thing we have at guard. He for sure will see minutes there.
 
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: TheSundanceKid on September 25, 2017, 04:21:34 AM
Mines almost the same, I have Theis starting alongside Horford. Morris and Baynes off the bench.

I have Yab and Nader/Semi as the 13/14th on the roster will Yab spending most of the year in Maine. Theis will fill the Amir role but with a 3 point shot. I also think Semi is more likely to play SG than Hayward at this point.




 We don't have a shooting Guard we can depend on at all. Bradley leaves a Huge whole. I hope Brown is but he's around raw, I hope smart is but he can't be shoot.

 So Hayward is the surest thing we have at guard. He for sure will see minutes there.
Hayward is our only sure thing at SF. I'm more confident in Smart and Brown than Tatum going into the year.
We have more shooting and shot creation than last year which should offset Smarts lack of it. I'm expecting more open shots for our players this year than last, and better percentages when under pressure.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: RodyTur10 on September 25, 2017, 04:24:52 AM
PG: Irving (32), Smart (4), Rozier (12), Larkin
SG: Brown (20), Smart (28), Hayward
SF: Hayward (32), Ojeleye (12), Brown (4), Nader
PF: Morris (24), Tatum (16), Theis (-8), Horford, Yabusele
C: Horford (32), Baynes (16), Theis

Most nights Larkin, Nader and Yabusele won't see the court.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: PAOBoston on September 25, 2017, 07:33:56 AM
Bigs: Horford, Baynes, Theiss, Yabusele
Swings: Morris, Tatum, Ojeleye
Wings: Hayward, Tatum, Brown, Ojeleye, Nader
Guards: Irving, Smart, Rozier, Larkin
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: pearljammer10 on September 25, 2017, 08:21:04 AM
Kyrie 35/Rozier 13
Brown 24/Smart 24/Nader
Hayward 34/Semi 10/ Brown 4
Morris 26/Tatum 22/Yabu
Horford 30/Baynes 18

Kyrie 35
Hayward 34
Horford 30
Brown 28
Morris 26
Smart 24
Tatum 22
Baynes 18
Rozier 13
Semi
Nader
Larkin
Theiss
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: DooVoo on September 26, 2017, 10:33:57 AM
Mines almost the same, I have Theis starting alongside Horford. Morris and Baynes off the bench.

I have Yab and Nader/Semi as the 13/14th on the roster will Yab spending most of the year in Maine. Theis will fill the Amir role but with a 3 point shot. I also think Semi is more likely to play SG than Hayward at this point.




 We don't have a shooting Guard we can depend on at all. Bradley leaves a Huge whole. I hope Brown is but he's around raw, I hope smart is but he can't be shoot.

 So Hayward is the surest thing we have at guard. He for sure will see minutes there.

There is no such thing as a SG in Brad's system. It is Bigs, Wings, and Ball Handlers. Celtic fans just can't seem to let go of the old positions.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: wdleehi on September 26, 2017, 10:39:35 AM
Starters:

Irving
Brown
Hayward
Morris
Horford


Finishers

Irving
Smart
Brown
Hayward
Hortford

First big off bench:  Baynes, Semi, Theis, Yabu

First PG off bench: Smart, Rozier

First swing off bench: Tatum (Smart and Semi)

DNPs
Nader
Larken
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: GreenEnvy on September 26, 2017, 10:54:36 AM
I'm eager to see Smart. His slimmed-down look and hopefully improved jumper can make him an offensive threat and possibly an even better defender.

Irving/Rozier/Larkin
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Tatum/Nader
Morris/Ojeleye/Yabu
Horford/Baynes/Theis

That's the depth chart, imo. But I'm sure we will see many different units from Brad. You'll see Baynes and Horford together. You'll see Smart at PG, Hayward at SG-SF-PF, maybe even Irving at SG. Tatum at PF. Morris at SF.

So many options. He's really moving towards a positionless team. Imagine an offensive lineup of Kyrie/Smart/Hayward/Tatum/Horford? Anyone can initiate the offense. Or defensively, we can put together a lineup that almost any switch keeps a swing on LeBron/KD.

Brad is going to earn his money this season. Last year he coached the all-star team, this year he may win Coach of the Year.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on September 26, 2017, 11:00:27 AM
I think Brad Steven usually plays 9-10 guys. He also likes to keep starters minutes down (unlike Doc). Here is my projection:

Center: Al Horford 30 minutes/Aron Baynes 18 minutes

Power Forward: Marcus Morris 26 minutes/Jayson Tatum 12 minutes/Guerschon Yabusele 10* minutes 

Small Forward: Gordon Hayward 33 minutes/Jayson Tatum 11 minutes/Jaylen Brown 4 minutes

Shooting Guard: Jaylen Brown 24 minutes/Marcus Smart 16 minutes/Terry Rozier 8 minutes

Point Guards: Kyrie Irving 34 minutes/Marcus Smart  10 minutes/Terry Rozier 4 minutes

Summary: (total minutes)

1. Kyrie Irving (34)
2. Gordon Hayward (33)
3. Al Horford (30)
4. Jaylen Brown (28)
5. Marcus Smart (26)
6. Marcus Morris (26)
7. Jayson Tatum (23)
8. Aron Baynes (18)
9. Terry Rozier (12)
10. Guerschon Yabusele (10)
11. Semi Ojeleye
12. Daniel Theis
13. Shane Larkin
14. Abdel Nader


*Daniel Theis or Semi Ojeleye can take these minutes as well and Semi might be able to sneak some minutes at the 3 if he earns them

Don't see Larkin or Nader playing much.

We are pretty small and are going to stink on the glass.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: BitterJim on September 26, 2017, 11:24:32 AM
Copying this from an older thread:

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I figure Horford at 32 mpg (same as last year), so Baynes with ~16mpg.  That's right in line with his past 3 years (16.0, 15.2, and 15.5 mpg respectively).

Rozier, though, is going to be casualty of the huge number of wings.  The overall minutes will probably break down something like this:

PG: Irving 32/Smart 10/Rozier 6
SG: Brown 20/Smart 20/Rozier 8
SF: Hayward 25/Tatum 15/Brown 4/Semi or Nader 4
PF: Morris 28/Hayward 7/Tatum 5/Yabu, Theis, Semi, or Nader splitting 8
C: Horford 32/Baynes 16

Rotation players:
Irving 32
Hayward 32
Horford 32
Smart 30
Morris 28
Brown 24
Tatum 20
Baynes 16
Rozier 14
Other rookies 12 (some or all could also go to a vet min)

There's definitely room for Terry to get more minutes (if Brown plays more SF), but it's also possible that he plays less because Hayward plays some SG. I think Brown and Tatum are much better prospects and get more minutes than him,  which will cut down on the time he could get.  You may be right, but I don't think Terry has the talent to earn 20 mpg on this team, especially with how ball-dominant he is.

Hopefully we add a vet min that can play center, though, because I hate that rotation of bigs (and I don't even want to think about what it would look like if Al went down)
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: nickagneta on September 26, 2017, 11:28:15 AM
Irving/Rozier/Larkin
Brown/Smart/Nader
Hayward/Tatum/Ojeleye
Morris/Theis/Yabusele
Horford/Baynes

Thats my depth chart but many players will be overlapping into other positions depending on the 5 man rotation being used. I fully expect Smart, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Horford, and Theis playing multiple positions in the 9-10 man rotation.

Starters: Irving/Brown/Hayward/MorrisHorford
Finishers: Irving/Smart/Brown/Hayward/Horford
2nd and 4 quarter starters: Rozier/Smart/Hayward/Tatum/Baynes
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: PhoSita on September 26, 2017, 02:00:57 PM
Starters: Irving, Smart, Hayward, Morris, Horford

Bench: Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Baynes

Deep bench: Semi, Theis, Yabu, Larkin

Street-clothes: Nader, TBD
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: trickybilly on September 26, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
Starters: Irving, Smart, Hayward, Morris, Horford

Bench: Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Baynes

Deep bench: Semi, Theis, Yabu, Larkin

Street-clothes: Nader, TBD

I get the feeling Theis or Semi (or maybe even Yabu) will get regular bench minutes. Only one of them will though.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: Chris22 on September 26, 2017, 02:37:15 PM
Kyrie Rozier Larkin
Brown Smart Nader
Hayward Tatum Semi
Horford Morris Yabu
Baynes Theis

I like this one.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on September 26, 2017, 03:59:07 PM
Man. After looking at these depth charts, I feel like Smart is putting a road block on our # of shooters. Current combinations with Smart dont seem very effective unless he is in the starting line up. Rozier, Smart, and Tatum dont get much accomplished as a whole imo.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: OHCeltic on October 03, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
Irving               Smart
Brown              Nader
Hayward           Tatum
Morris               Theis
Horford             Baynes
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: More Banners on October 03, 2017, 10:14:38 PM
Irving/Rozier/Larkin
Brown/Smart/Nader
Hayward/Tatum/Ojeleye
Morris/Theis/Yabusele
Horford/Baynes

Thats my depth chart but many players will be overlapping into other positions depending on the 5 man rotation being used. I fully expect Smart, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Horford, and Theis playing multiple positions in the 9-10 man rotation.

Starters: Irving/Brown/Hayward/MorrisHorford
Finishers: Irving/Smart/Brown/Hayward/Horford
2nd and 4 quarter starters: Rozier/Smart/Hayward/Tatum/Baynes

This is it right here.

 Brad probably goes 10 games and swaps Larkin for Rozier for 10 games, and Theis will earn minutes.  Yabu might not.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: crimson_stallion on October 03, 2017, 10:54:36 PM
PG: Kyrie / Rozier / Larkin
SG: Brown / Smart / Nader
SF: Hayward / Tatum / Semi
PF: Morris / Theis / Yabusele
C: Horford / Baynes
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: safecracker on October 04, 2017, 01:00:51 AM
Bigs(96): Horford(32), Morris(24), Baynes(24), Theis(16), Yabusele
Wings(96): Hayward (34), Brown(24), Smart (18), Morris(10), Tatum(10), Nader, Rozier
Ballhandlers(48): Irving (34), Smart(16), Larkin(8 ), Rozier
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: Eddie20 on October 04, 2017, 07:47:45 AM
Starters
Irving
Brown
Hayward
Horford
Baynes

2nd Unit
Smart
Rozier
Tatum
Morris
Theis

Deep Bench
Larkin
Yabusele
Nader
Ojeleye


Wouldn't be surprised to see Larkin eat into some Rozier minutes.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: pearljammer10 on October 04, 2017, 08:17:03 AM
Irving 35/ Smart 8/ Rozier 5
Brown 26/ Smart 16/ Rozier 6
Hayward 34/ Tatum 16/ Semi 8
Morris 26/Horford 8/ Tatum 6/ Theis 4/ Semi 4
Horford 22/Baynes 18/Theis 8
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: Vermont Green on October 04, 2017, 08:25:01 AM
Here is mine:

Most Minutes
Irving
Smart
Hayward
Morris
Horford

Fewer but Regular Minutes
Rozier
Brown
Tatum
Theis
Baynes

No Regular Minutes
Larkin
Yabusele
Nader
Ojeleye

Things could get ambiguous in who starts vs. who finishes but I think this is how the players should be grouped in terms of who gets the most minutes at the various positions.  For example, many of the posts have Brown with the first unit or listed as a starter but I don't think that matters if Smart plays more minutes.  Same for Baynes vs. Morris.  I believe Morris will play more minutes than Baynes partly because of fouls.  And of course, Irving, Hayward, and Horford will play max minutes.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: RodyTur10 on October 04, 2017, 08:53:17 AM
Starters
Irving
Brown
Hayward
Horford
Baynes

2nd Unit
Smart
Rozier
Tatum
Morris
Theis

Deep Bench
Larkin
Yabusele
Nader
Ojeleye


Wouldn't be surprised to see Larkin eat into some Rozier minutes.

Previously I was in favor of starting Morris, but Baynes looked really good against Charlotte and he may be able to stabilize the defense and rebounding. Morris is more of a iso player than a spot up shooter, so maybe not a great fit in the starting line up anyhow. The athletism of Brown in the starting unit can be very important though I don't rate his defense very high yet.

So I fully agree with these units, TP. Tatum looked pretty weak as a post defender, so he gets some slack by not having to play PF in the second line up. And there are minutes available for Theis (who also looks good) at C, when Horford primary plays as a PF.

I hope Nader will find some minutes during the season, I like how smooth his game is. I don't think much of Ojeleye and Yabusele. If Yabusele has some trading value then I wouldn't be opposed to giving up on him and trade him right now. If Rozier is not able to convincingly win the battle for back up PG with Larkin, then you have to question whether he has a future with the Celtics as well.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: pearljammer10 on October 04, 2017, 09:06:42 AM
Starters
Irving
Brown
Hayward
Horford
Baynes

2nd Unit
Smart
Rozier
Tatum
Morris
Theis

Deep Bench
Larkin
Yabusele
Nader
Ojeleye


Wouldn't be surprised to see Larkin eat into some Rozier minutes.

Previously I was in favor of starting Morris, but Baynes looked really good against Charlotte and he may be able to stabilize the defense and rebounding. Morris is more of a iso player than a spot up shooter, so maybe not a great fit in the starting line up anyhow. The athletism of Brown in the starting unit can be very important though I don't rate his defense very high yet.

So I fully agree with these units, TP. Tatum looked pretty weak as a post defender, so he gets some slack by not having to play PF in the second line up. And there are minutes available for Theis (who also looks good) at C, when Horford primary plays as a PF.

I hope Nader will find some minutes during the season, I like how smooth his game is. I don't think much of Ojeleye and Yabusele. If Yabusele has some trading value then I wouldn't be opposed to giving up on him and trade him right now. If Rozier is not able to convincingly win the battle for back up PG with Larkin, then you have to question whether he has a future with the Celtics as well.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this be a match up related thing. If we're playing a team like Charlotte that has a guy like Dwight Howard at the starting slot, I think Baynes gets the nod to match up against him. If the team doesn't have a bruising center in the middle then I see Morris getting the nod.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: Tr1boy on October 04, 2017, 10:34:31 AM
Baynes
Horford
Hayward
Brown
Irving

Theis
Morris
Tatum
Smart
Rozier

5 min a game

Semi
Larkin

Bench warmers

Yabu
Nadel
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: Csfan1984 on October 04, 2017, 10:46:05 AM
Depth chart
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin
SG- Brown, Smart, Nader
SF- Hayward, Tatum, Semi
PF- Horford, Morris, Yab
C- Baynes, Theis

Main Rotation
PG-Irving, Smart, Rozier
SG-Brown, Smart, Hayward
SF-Hayward, Brown, Tatum
PF-Horford, Morris, Tatum
C- Baynes, Horford, Theis

I won't be shocked to see the strange line up of
Irving, Smart, Hayward, Brown and Horford a lot.
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: Rosco917 on October 04, 2017, 11:29:35 AM
The depth chart on this team remains confusing IMO.

I still can't choose a starting lineup, without speculating. All of our power forwards except Morris can also play center. I haven't seen enough of Theis to tell where he fits, but I sure like what I've seen so far, and the same with Baynes, the teams only true Center. 

All of our Point Guards can play off-guard well, other than Larkin.

Danny and Brad wanted a team built for versatility, to mix and match...they got their wish.
 
Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: jay on October 04, 2017, 12:54:15 PM
Bigs(96): Horford(32), Morris(24), Baynes(24), Theis(16), Yabusele
Wings(96): Hayward (34), Brown(24), Smart (18), Morris(10), Tatum(10), Nader, Rozier
Ballhandlers(48): Irving (34), Smart(16), Larkin(8 ), Rozier

I like that. I would go:

Bigs(96): Horford(32), Morris(24), Baynes(24), Theis(16), Yabusele
Wings(96): Hayward (34), Brown(20), Smart (26), Tatum(16), Nader, Ojeleye
Ballhandlers(48): Irving (36), Rozier (12), Larkin

Title: Re: What's your depth Chart look like
Post by: Bobshot on October 04, 2017, 05:03:42 PM
This is very tough to call at this point--except for Irving, Hayward and Horford.  Pencil them in as starters. The other two spots might well depend on matchups. Smart says he wants to come off the bench, so I guess Brown gets to start at the 2, though he hasn't really shown a good outside shot yet for a 2. He will have to make his mark on D. I'm not one to be impressed by dunks, unless they're accompanied by other talents. Between Brown and Smart, they do come up short on shooting at the 2. Which is why some people think Hayward might wind up at the 2.

The guys to watch are Tatum and Theis. Aside from playing very well together, Tatum showed he can score against starting competition and Theis showed he might be all-world, though one game doesn't tell a story.

Stevens has his hands full sorting all this out. Morris managed to stay out of jail, so he'll be joining the mix. How does he stack up vs Tatum and Theis? Does Theis alternate with Baynes at the 5--since Horford wants to play the 4? Where does Morris fit here?  Lots of questions, but the key players, it appears, are all those mentioned above.