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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: konkmv on September 20, 2017, 03:39:32 PM
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I read they want to trade him... give them some seconds... he is better than zeller and can rebound... after the fultz trade they should be willing to deal with us
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"Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water." - Peter Benchley
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/09/jahlil_okafor_trade_rumors_phi.html
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
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Remember the days when some folks here wanted to give up one of the Brooklyn picks for him? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
On a low risk deal I'd get him. We just got Irving so we don't care about defense anyway. ;D (just kidding!!!) But in a couple of years we're going to lose our only scoring big man. Maybe Al can help Okafor round out his game.
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The guy can't find minutes on a lottery team as a top pick. What makes you think he isn't Bennett 2.0
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
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Top-25 protected 2018 Boston 1st + Future 2nd round Pick (2019?) + Nader/Larkin
That's all I would do at best.
I get his defense is atrocious BUT with better coaching I think he can at least be a somewhat better player than all of the vet. min candidates remaining.
Actually making that trade still could allow us to add a vet. min guy still (bring back Green? Robinson?).
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
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He is not a shot blocker we have enough scoring now. I pass on him. I would rather trade for Alex Len than Okafor.
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I HATED the idea of trading a Brooklyn pick for him.
But I LOVE the idea of buying low on him right now. The 76'ers have been destroying his value around the league for two solid years. If you look at his per 36 numbers they match up very favorably to a young Boogie Cousins.
He also - like two of the most important players on our team - went to Duke.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Yabusele will be a better pro than Okafor. Bad idea.
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I read they want to trade him... give them some seconds... he is better than zeller and can rebound... after the fultz trade they should be willing to deal with us
Is he really better then Zeller?
He's a better lost scorer yeah. I can't think of anything else he's better at, which is kind of concerning.
Zeller is a better defender (yikes), a better jumpshooter, way more mobile / athletic, and i'd honestly say he's probably a better rebounder and passer.
Okafor really is THAT bad...
And Zeller as a bonus also send to have better intangibles - strong work ethic and always happy to accept any role he's given.
Only reason i can think of for taking Okafor over Zeller is age/upside.
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
I think it's to the point where The Sixers would have to pay to have someone take Okafor. If someone really wants him they can pick him after the rookie contract...
Wasn't he drafted the year after Marcus? If so then he'd be up for an extension next year...
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
That's more like it. At this point, Okafor is more likely to be out of the league in 3 years. Yabu and 1st round picks are much better and collectively along with Nader and Larkin would be downright highway robbery for the sixers. But, it's off-season so....
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I'm not in favor of giving up any thing significant to acquire him, I'm talking about stealing him... but I would like to see what Stevens could do with him.
He needs to be reinvented, and CBS could be the guy to do it.
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
I think it's to the point where The Sixers would have to pay to have someone take Okafor. If someone really wants him they can pick him after the rookie contract...
Agree with both of you. Are they going to pick up his option?
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Danny discussed a sign and trade of amir for okafor. It went nowhere assuming Danny didn't budge. For everyone suggesting we trade picks and young prospects for okafor- danny highly disagrees with you
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
I think it's to the point where The Sixers would have to pay to have someone take Okafor. If someone really wants him they can pick him after the rookie contract...
Agree with both of you. Are they going to pick up his option?
I think that's next year. I don't see how he'll see the court this year unless someone gets hurt.
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
I think it's to the point where The Sixers would have to pay to have someone take Okafor. If someone really wants him they can pick him after the rookie contract...
Agree with both of you. Are they going to pick up his option?
I think that's next year. I don't see how he'll see the court this year unless someone gets hurt.
Nope. They have to decide by October 16 if they are going to pick up the 4th year of his rookie contract. If they don't he becomes an unrestricted free agent after this season.
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
I think it's to the point where The Sixers would have to pay to have someone take Okafor. If someone really wants him they can pick him after the rookie contract...
Agree with both of you. Are they going to pick up his option?
I think that's next year. I don't see how he'll see the court this year unless someone gets hurt.
In other words he's in the perfect place, with Simmons and Embiid as starting bigs in Philly :)
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This is where that 2020 Miami 2nd rounder could have come handy!! :P
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
I think it's to the point where The Sixers would have to pay to have someone take Okafor. If someone really wants him they can pick him after the rookie contract...
Agree with both of you. Are they going to pick up his option?
I think that's next year. I don't see how he'll see the court this year unless someone gets hurt.
Nope. They have to decide by October 16 if they are going to pick up the 4th year of his rookie contract. If they don't he becomes an unrestricted free agent after this season.
Oh, thanks...
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Not sure Moranis why you would want to give up 3 players and a 1st round pick when they have been trying to give him away for 2 years. A couple second round picks would get him.
I think it's to the point where The Sixers would have to pay to have someone take Okafor. If someone really wants him they can pick him after the rookie contract...
Agree with both of you. Are they going to pick up his option?
I think that's next year. I don't see how he'll see the court this year unless someone gets hurt.
In other words he's in the perfect place, with Simmons and Embiid as starting bigs in Philly :)
Good point!
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T Rob. Rebounding, athleticism, potential to play strong defense. C'mon Daniel. Fill the gaping hole.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
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I'd be willing to gamble on him for very cheap (a few second rounders). The only problem is matching salary.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
TP. 76ers fans have always overestimated Okafor's game.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
TP I guess some folks have a different meaning to the word "production"
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I don't know why everybody is so against this... I think Emeka Okafor would be a great backup big man for our team!
All things serious, I haven't thought about Emeka in a long time and I'm surprised he completely disappeared from the league so fast at age 30. Last time he was in the league, he was still averaging 13 points and 12 rebounds per 36 minutes while managing to play 26 minutes per game and had been a positively contributing defender every season he was in the league.
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I don't know why everybody is so against this... I think Emeka Okafor would be a great backup big man for our team!
All things serious, I haven't thought about Emeka in a long time and I'm surprised he completely disappeared from the league so fast at age 30. Last time he was in the league, he was still averaging 13 points and 12 rebounds per 36 minutes while managing to play 26 minutes per game and had been a positively contributing defender every season he was in the league.
I think he is actually hunting around for an NBA team right now...
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I don't know why everybody is so against this... I think Emeka Okafor would be a great backup big man for our team!
All things serious, I haven't thought about Emeka in a long time and I'm surprised he completely disappeared from the league so fast at age 30. Last time he was in the league, he was still averaging 13 points and 12 rebounds per 36 minutes while managing to play 26 minutes per game and had been a positively contributing defender every season he was in the league.
Same man!
I remember wanting him to come to Boston badly, back towards the end of the Big 3 era. He'd have been a great Perk replacement, would have fit so well alongside KG.
In fact I seriously think I might prefer Emeka Okafor right now (at his current age / ability) over Jahlil Okafor. At least Emeka always maintained prime conditioning, always played hard, rebounded aggressively, and recognised that defence IS an actual thing.
Always liked that guy, kept expecting him to come back each year and he just never did.
Kinda thought of him as a poor man's Dwight (but without the moron attitude).
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2712818-emeka-okafor-reportedly-pursuing-nba-comeback-after-4-year-absence
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I don't know why everybody is so against this... I think Emeka Okafor would be a great backup big man for our team!
All things serious, I haven't thought about Emeka in a long time and I'm surprised he completely disappeared from the league so fast at age 30. Last time he was in the league, he was still averaging 13 points and 12 rebounds per 36 minutes while managing to play 26 minutes per game and had been a positively contributing defender every season he was in the league.
Same man!
I remember wanting him to come to Boston badly, back towards the end of the Big 3 era. He'd have been a great Perk replacement, would have fit so well alongside KG.
In fact I seriously think I might prefer Emeka Okafor right now (at his current age / ability) over Jahlil Okafor. At least Emeka always maintained prime conditioning, always played hard, rebounded aggressively, and recognised that defence IS an actual thing.
Always liked that guy, kept expecting him to come back each year and he just never did.
Kinda thought of him as a poor man's Dwight (but without the moron attitude).
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2712818-emeka-okafor-reportedly-pursuing-nba-comeback-after-4-year-absence
Completely agree. Emeka is almost the complete reverse of Jahlil. Gives it his all on defence, not too offensively polished but always worked hard.
Not sure why he's been out for so long, but I could see a team taking a flier on a 35 year old rim protector.
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Pretty sure Emeka Okafor had an ongoing neck injury which meant he was never able to play again. I thought he would've been good too, a few years back.
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I suspect Jahlil ends up in Chicago somehow.
That "braintrust" is just silly enough to overpay too.
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I read they want to trade him... give them some seconds... he is better than zeller and can rebound... after the fultz trade they should be willing to deal with us
I can't see how he improves the roster, or even why you'd have much hope for developing him. Poor defender, plain bad defensive rebounder, turnover-prone, high-usage, low-efficiency. It's a challenge to be optimistic about his future; you have to squint pretty hard to see the upside.
How come a guy with his size and body cannot get a defensive rebound?
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
His VORP according to bball reference was -0.4
but his actual production was
22.7 mpg, 11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.4 spg, 1.8 tpg, 2.4 fpg on 51.4% from 2 and 67.1% from the line.
I can't see those 3 players do not equal that production next year. Maybe the apg or spg, collectively, and maybe better from the line
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I'd still take him, but I'm pretty sure (and please someone with more knowledge on the subject jump in) we would need to trade out equal salary for him since we are over the cap. And there just isn't much filler left on the roster I'd be willing to trade out to match salaries. I'd rather keep Yabu, Semi or Nader. I'm not trading Brown, Smart, Rozier or Tatum. If we could just give up 2 second round picks and Larkin for him, I'd be all about it. Maybe if Baynes or Morris ends up being god awful for us, we can flip one of them for Okafor before the deadline?
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I don't know why everybody is so against this... I think Emeka Okafor would be a great backup big man for our team!
All things serious, I haven't thought about Emeka in a long time and I'm surprised he completely disappeared from the league so fast at age 30. Last time he was in the league, he was still averaging 13 points and 12 rebounds per 36 minutes while managing to play 26 minutes per game and had been a positively contributing defender every season he was in the league.
Same man!
I remember wanting him to come to Boston badly, back towards the end of the Big 3 era. He'd have been a great Perk replacement, would have fit so well alongside KG.
In fact I seriously think I might prefer Emeka Okafor right now (at his current age / ability) over Jahlil Okafor. At least Emeka always maintained prime conditioning, always played hard, rebounded aggressively, and recognised that defence IS an actual thing.
Always liked that guy, kept expecting him to come back each year and he just never did.
Kinda thought of him as a poor man's Dwight (but without the moron attitude).
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2712818-emeka-okafor-reportedly-pursuing-nba-comeback-after-4-year-absence
He's more than 2 years younger than Pau Gasol. Bring him in for a workout!
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
His VORP according to bball reference was -0.4
but his actual production was
22.7 mpg, 11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.4 spg, 1.8 tpg, 2.4 fpg on 51.4% from 2 and 67.1% from the line.
I can't see those 3 players do not equal that production next year. Maybe the apg or spg, collectively, and maybe better from the line
but how productive is he really if he's generating negative WAR and VORP stats? sure, score 11.8 point but give up a lot more than that because you're a defensive liability.
I'd take flyer on him for no more than a couple of second rounders (doesn't work due to no outgoing salary) in terms of what he's worth. wouldn't give up a player on the roster other than Larkin for him. the suggested trade you offered is a gross overpayment. take it to the bank that if Philly moves Okafor in a deal, they won't be getting a first rounder nor a decent prospect for him with his current trade value.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
His VORP according to bball reference was -0.4
but his actual production was
22.7 mpg, 11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.4 spg, 1.8 tpg, 2.4 fpg on 51.4% from 2 and 67.1% from the line.
I can't see those 3 players do not equal that production next year. Maybe the apg or spg, collectively, and maybe better from the line
but how productive is he really if he's generating negative WAR and VORP stats? sure, score 11.8 point but give up a lot more than that because you're a defensive liability.
I'd take flyer on him for no more than a couple of second rounders (doesn't work due to no outgoing salary) in terms of what he's worth. wouldn't give up a player on the roster other than Larkin for him. the suggested trade you offered is a gross overpayment. take it to the bank that if Philly moves Okafor in a deal, they won't be getting a first rounder nor a decent prospect for him with his current trade value.
Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier, among other Celtics, had negative VORP's last year as well. The Sixers only had a handful of players end the year with a positive VORP. Larkin played in the league for 3 seasons, he was a negative VORP all 3 seasons. Nader couldn't even make the team last year and Yabu is a foreign tweener. Maybe Yabu is great or maybe he is just another tweener Ainge fell in love with that fails. A super late 1st round pick has very little value.
Okafor was the 3rd pick in the draft for a reason. He has immense talent. Far more talent than any of those 3 Celtics or a late 1st round pick. Okafor is an offensive beast, as shown by his actual production on that end of the floor every time he has played. Defensively he isn't good, but the guys Boston are trading aren't good defenders either.
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I am intrigued by Okafor. I remember seeing flashes of outstanding play along the way. It is not like he can't play. He may never fulfill his full promise due to attitude or commitment or whatever but I sill see some value there.
Problem is that we are just not in a good position to match up with them for a trade. We can't really afford to give up 3 player to get one back, even if they are expected scrubs like Yabusele and Nader (those two alone are not enough salary I don't think). Our most viable combination is Yabusele and Rozier. I may consider that during the season if Okafor is on the court and playing better (or at least more consistently), but not right now.
I know there is love for Rozier (which I share) but back up PGs are much easier to find than productive young bigs (assuming that Okafor shows some improvement this coming season). In the end, seems like a hard trade to match up on.
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I don't know why everybody is so against this... I think Emeka Okafor would be a great backup big man for our team!
All things serious, I haven't thought about Emeka in a long time and I'm surprised he completely disappeared from the league so fast at age 30. Last time he was in the league, he was still averaging 13 points and 12 rebounds per 36 minutes while managing to play 26 minutes per game and had been a positively contributing defender every season he was in the league.
Same man!
I remember wanting him to come to Boston badly, back towards the end of the Big 3 era. He'd have been a great Perk replacement, would have fit so well alongside KG.
In fact I seriously think I might prefer Emeka Okafor right now (at his current age / ability) over Jahlil Okafor. At least Emeka always maintained prime conditioning, always played hard, rebounded aggressively, and recognised that defence IS an actual thing.
Always liked that guy, kept expecting him to come back each year and he just never did.
Kinda thought of him as a poor man's Dwight (but without the moron attitude).
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2712818-emeka-okafor-reportedly-pursuing-nba-comeback-after-4-year-absence
He's more than 2 years younger than Pau Gasol. Bring him in for a workout!
We want Emeka!
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I don't know why everybody is so against this... I think Emeka Okafor would be a great backup big man for our team!
All things serious, I haven't thought about Emeka in a long time and I'm surprised he completely disappeared from the league so fast at age 30. Last time he was in the league, he was still averaging 13 points and 12 rebounds per 36 minutes while managing to play 26 minutes per game and had been a positively contributing defender every season he was in the league.
Same man!
I remember wanting him to come to Boston badly, back towards the end of the Big 3 era. He'd have been a great Perk replacement, would have fit so well alongside KG.
In fact I seriously think I might prefer Emeka Okafor right now (at his current age / ability) over Jahlil Okafor. At least Emeka always maintained prime conditioning, always played hard, rebounded aggressively, and recognised that defence IS an actual thing.
Always liked that guy, kept expecting him to come back each year and he just never did.
Kinda thought of him as a poor man's Dwight (but without the moron attitude).
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2712818-emeka-okafor-reportedly-pursuing-nba-comeback-after-4-year-absence
He's more than 2 years younger than Pau Gasol. Bring him in for a workout!
We want Emeka!
I'd be stoked if we brought in Emeka.
If he can provide 10-15 min a game of hard nosed, smart defense we would be a far more dangerous team.
Also extra insurance if Al goes down at any point.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
His VORP according to bball reference was -0.4
but his actual production was
22.7 mpg, 11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.4 spg, 1.8 tpg, 2.4 fpg on 51.4% from 2 and 67.1% from the line.
I can't see those 3 players do not equal that production next year. Maybe the apg or spg, collectively, and maybe better from the line
but how productive is he really if he's generating negative WAR and VORP stats? sure, score 11.8 point but give up a lot more than that because you're a defensive liability.
I'd take flyer on him for no more than a couple of second rounders (doesn't work due to no outgoing salary) in terms of what he's worth. wouldn't give up a player on the roster other than Larkin for him. the suggested trade you offered is a gross overpayment. take it to the bank that if Philly moves Okafor in a deal, they won't be getting a first rounder nor a decent prospect for him with his current trade value.
Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier, among other Celtics, had negative VORP's last year as well. The Sixers only had a handful of players end the year with a positive VORP. Larkin played in the league for 3 seasons, he was a negative VORP all 3 seasons. Nader couldn't even make the team last year and Yabu is a foreign tweener. Maybe Yabu is great or maybe he is just another tweener Ainge fell in love with that fails. A super late 1st round pick has very little value.
Okafor was the 3rd pick in the draft for a reason. He has immense talent. Far more talent than any of those 3 Celtics or a late 1st round pick. Okafor is an offensive beast, as shown by his actual production on that end of the floor every time he has played. Defensively he isn't good, but the guys Boston are trading aren't good defenders either.
The "well he was a high draft pick so he much be good" argument doesn't hold much water when you consider how many busts there have been. I mean Michael Olowokandi was the #1 pick for a reason and we can go on and on.
Okafor is not an offensive beast. An offensive beast is someone who can score efficiently on the floor in numerous spots and can create his own shot. Not a plodding slow as a tortoise big man who is only okay posting up in certain situations which doesn't really work in today's game. Here is an excellent article about Okafor that I encourage you to read since it should change your opinion on him and open your eyes. He is simply a very flawed player who does only one thing in the NBA okay and doesn't really have a fit in today's game. This article also shows what a god awful rebounder his is.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/does-jahlil-okafor-have-a-place-in-todays-nba/
Saying he isn't good defensively is like saying Niagara Falls in just a waterfall. He is a black hole.
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/1/14785660/jahlil-okafor-worst-defense-youve-ever-seen-sixers
Philly will end up moving him for nothing cause he has little value right now.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
His VORP according to bball reference was -0.4
but his actual production was
22.7 mpg, 11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.4 spg, 1.8 tpg, 2.4 fpg on 51.4% from 2 and 67.1% from the line.
I can't see those 3 players do not equal that production next year. Maybe the apg or spg, collectively, and maybe better from the line
but how productive is he really if he's generating negative WAR and VORP stats? sure, score 11.8 point but give up a lot more than that because you're a defensive liability.
I'd take flyer on him for no more than a couple of second rounders (doesn't work due to no outgoing salary) in terms of what he's worth. wouldn't give up a player on the roster other than Larkin for him. the suggested trade you offered is a gross overpayment. take it to the bank that if Philly moves Okafor in a deal, they won't be getting a first rounder nor a decent prospect for him with his current trade value.
Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier, among other Celtics, had negative VORP's last year as well. The Sixers only had a handful of players end the year with a positive VORP. Larkin played in the league for 3 seasons, he was a negative VORP all 3 seasons. Nader couldn't even make the team last year and Yabu is a foreign tweener. Maybe Yabu is great or maybe he is just another tweener Ainge fell in love with that fails. A super late 1st round pick has very little value.
Okafor was the 3rd pick in the draft for a reason. He has immense talent. Far more talent than any of those 3 Celtics or a late 1st round pick. Okafor is an offensive beast, as shown by his actual production on that end of the floor every time he has played. Defensively he isn't good, but the guys Boston are trading aren't good defenders either.
The "well he was a high draft pick so he much be good" argument doesn't hold much water when you consider how many busts there have been. I mean Michael Olowokandi was the #1 pick for a reason and we can go on and on.
Okafor is not an offensive beast. An offensive beast is someone who can score efficiently on the floor in numerous spots and can create his own shot. Not a plodding slow as a tortoise big man who is only okay posting up in certain situations which doesn't really work in today's game. Here is an excellent article about Okafor that I encourage you to read since it should change your opinion on him and open your eyes. He is simply a very flawed player who does only one thing in the NBA okay and doesn't really have a fit in today's game. This article also shows what a god awful rebounder his is.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/does-jahlil-okafor-have-a-place-in-todays-nba/
Saying he isn't good defensively is like saying Niagara Falls in just a waterfall. He is a black hole.
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/1/14785660/jahlil-okafor-worst-defense-youve-ever-seen-sixers
Philly will end up moving him for nothing cause he has little value right now.
Olowokandi is a good comp. amazing touch with the ball on the block, but it was layups on the other end. Ainge DID sign him though for cheap.
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The 76ers are moronic regarding their center position. Embiid still isn't cleared for 5 on 5. Meanwhile Okafor has changed his diet and lost weight.
If they think centers with Okafor's natural talent grow on trees they're in for a very interesting surprise.
He's what? 21? And they want to give up on him? While Embiid isn't cleared to play 5 on 5.
The 76ers are morons.
I don't think that team will have any chemistry whatsoever. None.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
His VORP according to bball reference was -0.4
but his actual production was
22.7 mpg, 11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.4 spg, 1.8 tpg, 2.4 fpg on 51.4% from 2 and 67.1% from the line.
I can't see those 3 players do not equal that production next year. Maybe the apg or spg, collectively, and maybe better from the line
but how productive is he really if he's generating negative WAR and VORP stats? sure, score 11.8 point but give up a lot more than that because you're a defensive liability.
I'd take flyer on him for no more than a couple of second rounders (doesn't work due to no outgoing salary) in terms of what he's worth. wouldn't give up a player on the roster other than Larkin for him. the suggested trade you offered is a gross overpayment. take it to the bank that if Philly moves Okafor in a deal, they won't be getting a first rounder nor a decent prospect for him with his current trade value.
Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier, among other Celtics, had negative VORP's last year as well. The Sixers only had a handful of players end the year with a positive VORP. Larkin played in the league for 3 seasons, he was a negative VORP all 3 seasons. Nader couldn't even make the team last year and Yabu is a foreign tweener. Maybe Yabu is great or maybe he is just another tweener Ainge fell in love with that fails. A super late 1st round pick has very little value.
Okafor was the 3rd pick in the draft for a reason. He has immense talent. Far more talent than any of those 3 Celtics or a late 1st round pick. Okafor is an offensive beast, as shown by his actual production on that end of the floor every time he has played. Defensively he isn't good, but the guys Boston are trading aren't good defenders either.
The "well he was a high draft pick so he much be good" argument doesn't hold much water when you consider how many busts there have been. I mean Michael Olowokandi was the #1 pick for a reason and we can go on and on.
Okafor is not an offensive beast. An offensive beast is someone who can score efficiently on the floor in numerous spots and can create his own shot. Not a plodding slow as a tortoise big man who is only okay posting up in certain situations which doesn't really work in today's game. Here is an excellent article about Okafor that I encourage you to read since it should change your opinion on him and open your eyes. He is simply a very flawed player who does only one thing in the NBA okay and doesn't really have a fit in today's game. This article also shows what a god awful rebounder his is.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/does-jahlil-okafor-have-a-place-in-todays-nba/
Saying he isn't good defensively is like saying Niagara Falls in just a waterfall. He is a black hole.
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/1/14785660/jahlil-okafor-worst-defense-youve-ever-seen-sixers
Philly will end up moving him for nothing cause he has little value right now.
I read that article when it came out months ago. It confirms what I said, Okafor has incredible offensive talent but doesn't do much else. The thing is Okafor is better at offense then any 1 skill any of that collection of dregs and a late 1st rounder will provide.(and yeah I'm being harsh towards Yabu but I am just not impressed by him). And that skill i.e. low post scoring there isn't a single player in the team that is even above average at. In other words Okafor fills a giant hole.
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Sorry but we can't afford to have anymore atrocious defensive players on this team....PASS
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Sorry but we can't afford to have anymore atrocious defensive players on this team....PASS
How many do we have? Kyrie is a weak defender, but has shown that he can be average. JT is an unknown, as is Yabu and Semi. Larkin is pretty terrible, but he'll barely see the floor anyway. Can't think of any others.
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Sorry but we can't afford to have anymore atrocious defensive players on this team....PASS
But what if they rebound, get blocks, AND pass?
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One day someone will start the last Okafor thread. Who knows, maybe that happened already. And then, not long after that, someone will post the final post on that thread. And that will be it, for the rest of time.
Feeling philosophical tonight.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
His VORP according to bball reference was -0.4
but his actual production was
22.7 mpg, 11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.4 spg, 1.8 tpg, 2.4 fpg on 51.4% from 2 and 67.1% from the line.
I can't see those 3 players do not equal that production next year. Maybe the apg or spg, collectively, and maybe better from the line
but how productive is he really if he's generating negative WAR and VORP stats? sure, score 11.8 point but give up a lot more than that because you're a defensive liability.
I'd take flyer on him for no more than a couple of second rounders (doesn't work due to no outgoing salary) in terms of what he's worth. wouldn't give up a player on the roster other than Larkin for him. the suggested trade you offered is a gross overpayment. take it to the bank that if Philly moves Okafor in a deal, they won't be getting a first rounder nor a decent prospect for him with his current trade value.
Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier, among other Celtics, had negative VORP's last year as well. The Sixers only had a handful of players end the year with a positive VORP. Larkin played in the league for 3 seasons, he was a negative VORP all 3 seasons. Nader couldn't even make the team last year and Yabu is a foreign tweener. Maybe Yabu is great or maybe he is just another tweener Ainge fell in love with that fails. A super late 1st round pick has very little value.
Super late first round pick? The guy was taken at 16.
Okafor was the 3rd pick in the draft for a reason. He has immense talent. Far more talent than any of those 3 Celtics or a late 1st round pick. Okafor is an offensive beast, as shown by his actual production on that end of the floor every time he has played. Defensively he isn't good, but the guys Boston are trading aren't good defenders either.
I'd much rather have Pascal Siakam.
I don't know why everybody is so against this... I think Emeka Okafor would be a great backup big man for our team!
All things serious, I haven't thought about Emeka in a long time and I'm surprised he completely disappeared from the league so fast at age 30. Last time he was in the league, he was still averaging 13 points and 12 rebounds per 36 minutes while managing to play 26 minutes per game and had been a positively contributing defender every season he was in the league.
Same man!
I remember wanting him to come to Boston badly, back towards the end of the Big 3 era. He'd have been a great Perk replacement, would have fit so well alongside KG.
In fact I seriously think I might prefer Emeka Okafor right now (at his current age / ability) over Jahlil Okafor. At least Emeka always maintained prime conditioning, always played hard, rebounded aggressively, and recognised that defence IS an actual thing.
Always liked that guy, kept expecting him to come back each year and he just never did.
Kinda thought of him as a poor man's Dwight (but without the moron attitude).
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2712818-emeka-okafor-reportedly-pursuing-nba-comeback-after-4-year-absence
He's more than 2 years younger than Pau Gasol. Bring him in for a workout!
We want Emeka!
I'd be stoked if we brought in Emeka.
If he can provide 10-15 min a game of hard nosed, smart defense we would be a far more dangerous team.
Also extra insurance if Al goes down at any point.
Cosign.
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I would take a flyer on Okafor!
Trade Larkin and 2018 Bos 2nd rounder (we'll probably be #1 in the east anyway) for 2 years of Okafor. I don't see why he can't come off the bench like an Enes Kanter. Hes good at scoring in the paint, I assume he's got good hands to catch the ball, and if he can crash the o-boards, that'd be great. He's a situational player but he could be a weapon off the bench.
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I would take a flyer on Okafor!
Trade Larkin and 2018 Bos 2nd rounder (we'll probably be #1 in the east anyway) for 2 years of Okafor. I don't see why he can't come off the bench like an Enes Kanter. Hes good at scoring in the paint, I assume he's got good hands to catch the ball, and if he can crash the o-boards, that'd be great. He's a situational player but he could be a weapon off the bench.
His rebounding is basically Al Horford lite rn. He is basically an iso post player that you slot him in for a few buckets and hope he doesn't Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. up on D a minute or two.
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I think I would pass unless we can get him for Larkin and a second pick. OF course, I was looking at the cap stuff and it might taken Yabu and Larkin which is a steeper price and in which case I would pass. I read he has lost weight and may come into camp in shape. But honestly folks if he does that wouldn't the sixers see how he does...... Surely they can't be that dumb to trade him before they see the results.
Sorry but we can't afford to have anymore atrocious defensive players on this team....PASS
Hey be respectful of IT, he is no longer with us, but don't kick the guy when he is down.
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Sorry but we can't afford to have anymore atrocious defensive players on this team....PASS
But what if they rebound, get blocks, AND pass?
I consider rebounding part of defense. I don't believe this team will be a very good defensive team but they could prove me wrong with Stevens schemes. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of 3 guard offense to help our perimeter defense with Rozier, Smart and Irving.
The team has a chance to create it's own identity.
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I'd probably do Larkin, Nader, Yabusele, and Boston's 2018 1st (with some solid protections, like top 25, or it transfers to 2 2nd's) for Okafor. I don't know if the Sixers would be interested in something like that of course, but if that is the sort of deal they could get, I think it would make sense for Boston. You don't even mess up any chemistry since none of those guys were on the team last year.
Larkin, nader, yabu, and our pick are wash significantly better players than okafor.
I'd be surprised if Larkin, Nader, and Yabu combined equal the production of Okafor even last year.
Okafor’s production last year? Are you kidding? Okafor Wins Above Repacement (WAR) was -1.85 last year. -1.85. That is 3rd worst in the entire NBA. So Larkin, Nader, and Yabu could play 0 minutes the entire year, and still easily beat the “production” Okafor produced last year.
His VORP according to bball reference was -0.4
but his actual production was
22.7 mpg, 11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 bpg, 0.4 spg, 1.8 tpg, 2.4 fpg on 51.4% from 2 and 67.1% from the line.
I can't see those 3 players do not equal that production next year. Maybe the apg or spg, collectively, and maybe better from the line
but how productive is he really if he's generating negative WAR and VORP stats? sure, score 11.8 point but give up a lot more than that because you're a defensive liability.
I'd take flyer on him for no more than a couple of second rounders (doesn't work due to no outgoing salary) in terms of what he's worth. wouldn't give up a player on the roster other than Larkin for him. the suggested trade you offered is a gross overpayment. take it to the bank that if Philly moves Okafor in a deal, they won't be getting a first rounder nor a decent prospect for him with his current trade value.
Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier, among other Celtics, had negative VORP's last year as well. The Sixers only had a handful of players end the year with a positive VORP. Larkin played in the league for 3 seasons, he was a negative VORP all 3 seasons. Nader couldn't even make the team last year and Yabu is a foreign tweener. Maybe Yabu is great or maybe he is just another tweener Ainge fell in love with that fails. A super late 1st round pick has very little value.
Super late first round pick? The guy was taken at 16.
Not Yabu, the protected 1st I was including in the trade.
Okafor was the 3rd pick in the draft for a reason. He has immense talent. Far more talent than any of those 3 Celtics or a late 1st round pick. Okafor is an offensive beast, as shown by his actual production on that end of the floor every time he has played. Defensively he isn't good, but the guys Boston are trading aren't good defenders either.
I'd much rather have Pascal Siakam.
Is he available for not much value?
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I think I would pass unless we can get him for Larkin and a second pick. OF course, I was looking at the cap stuff and it might taken Yabu and Larkin which is a steeper price and in which case I would pass. I read he has lost weight and may come into camp in shape. But honestly folks if he does that wouldn't the sixers see how he does...... Surely they can't be that dumb to trade him before they see the results.
Sorry but we can't afford to have anymore atrocious defensive players on this team....PASS
Hey be respectful of IT, he is no longer with us, but don't kick the guy when he is down.
I came across a Philly work out video and he has lost weight and looks good. Not sure how it translate to basketball yet, but he's putting in the work on his body at least.
I'm torn on this. He was a huge talent in HS and College, and most people on here wanted him like crazy. It's hard to say if his poor play is to do with Philly or him. How much did they work with him? During the presser when he was introduced he didn't look happy. A change could do him wonders.
I think having Horford here would best case for him. They both aren't over athletic, and use good foot work to get their shots off. Horford plays good D, and maybe he can get Okafor to play similar.
I do worry about what we have to give up. I hate to have to use 3 players to get him, we're a bit thin as it is. And I don't want to give up Baynes or Morris right now, they'll be the consistent vets to counter the young guys on the team.
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Super late first round pick? The guy was taken at 16.
Not Yabu, the protected 1st I was including in the trade.
My apologies. I guess that I misunderstood you on that last part.
Okafor was the 3rd pick in the draft for a reason. He has immense talent. Far more talent than any of those 3 Celtics or a late 1st round pick. Okafor is an offensive beast, as shown by his actual production on that end of the floor every time he has played. Defensively he isn't good, but the guys Boston are trading aren't good defenders either.
I'd much rather have Pascal Siakam.
Is he available for not much value?
I honestly have no idea. He was starting for the Raptors prior to their acquisition of Ibaka, so I guess that he's back on the bench for now. Idk, I really liked him coming out of New Mexico State. He's a great athlete who runs the floor like a gazelle, has excellent quickness for a player of his size (at least imo), is relentless/has a great motor with a work ethic to match, possesses some really nice post moves, can hit a midrange shot and is extending his, well, range, out to the three point line, even though I'd prefer that he stayed on the block but that's how the game is now ::), and is an even better passer than he showed while in college. What he showed in that department in the G-League last year was truly astonishing, imo. He'd get the rebound, go the length of the court (easily outrunning guards in the process, btw), and deliver great passes on the break whether he was in the middle or on the wing (touch passes, especially), which is practically unheard of for a traditional power forward, plus he plays with a definite edge and is great kid, too. I don't know how good he can be, but I'd like to think that he'd get on the court right away for his defense, alone. Well, I like him, anyway, lol.
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I think I would pass unless we can get him for Larkin and a second pick. OF course, I was looking at the cap stuff and it might taken Yabu and Larkin which is a steeper price and in which case I would pass. I read he has lost weight and may come into camp in shape. But honestly folks if he does that wouldn't the sixers see how he does...... Surely they can't be that dumb to trade him before they see the results.
Sorry but we can't afford to have anymore atrocious defensive players on this team....PASS
Hey be respectful of IT, he is no longer with us, but don't kick the guy when he is down.
I came across a Philly work out video and he has lost weight and looks good. Not sure how it translate to basketball yet, but he's putting in the work on his body at least.
I'm torn on this. He was a huge talent in HS and College, and most people on here wanted him like crazy. It's hard to say if his poor play is to do with Philly or him. How much did they work with him? During the presser when he was introduced he didn't look happy. A change could do him wonders.
I think having Horford here would best case for him. They both aren't over athletic, and use good foot work to get their shots off. Horford plays good D, and maybe he can get Okafor to play similar.
I do worry about what we have to give up. I hate to have to use 3 players to get him, we're a bit thin as it is. And I don't want to give up Baynes or Morris right now, they'll be the consistent vets to counter the young guys on the team.
Oh no. No, no, nope, nuh-uh, no chance. I'm having flashbacks to Sully "getting into great shape" in the summer only to be fat again in January.
I'd take him if we could get him for nothing (ie he was a free agent), but no way in hell would I give up matching salaries for him
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The 76ers are moronic regarding their center position. Embiid still isn't cleared for 5 on 5. Meanwhile Okafor has changed his diet and lost weight.
If they think centers with Okafor's natural talent grow on trees they're in for a very interesting surprise.
He's what? 21? And they want to give up on him? While Embiid isn't cleared to play 5 on 5.
The 76ers are morons.
I don't think that team will have any chemistry whatsoever. None.
That will be their biggest issue. Amir and Reddick didn't go there as vets to lead them to the playoffs. They went there to get paid.
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Abdel Nader and a 2nd rounder.
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It's hard to say if his poor play is to do with Philly or him. How much did they work with him? During the presser when he was introduced he didn't look happy. A change could do him wonders.
I don’t think that it’s hard to say. The coaching staff is excellent and if there’s one thing that you can rely on, it’s that everyone in the organization did what they could to have their prize draft pick turn out. Where was the determination, the fight, the effort? No, Jahlil Okafor is not a Celtic.
I think having Horford here would best case for him. They both aren't over athletic, and use good foot work to get their shots off. Horford plays good D, and maybe he can get Okafor to play similar.
A slender reed to lean on, in my opinion. What would Danny Ainge base this hope on?
Oh no. No, no, nope, nuh-uh, no chance. I'm having flashbacks to Sully "getting into great shape" in the summer only to be fat again in January.
I'd take him if we could get him for nothing (ie he was a free agent), but no way in hell would I give up matching salaries for him
You’re still giving up a roster spot for someone who doesn’t help you in the areas you need help in, whose game doesn't fit the team offense, and whom you have to cover for on defense.
His rebounding is basically Al Horford lite rn. He is basically an iso post player that you slot him in for a few buckets and hope he doesn't **** up on D a minute or two.
His defensive rebounding last year was 15.5%, worse than Terry Rozier and seven other rotation Celtics, including all the bigs. He was catastrophically bad for a center.
Sorry but we can't afford to have anymore atrocious defensive players on this team....PASS
But what if they rebound, get blocks, AND pass?
I’m confused. I thought that this was a thread about Jahlil Okafor. He’s a ball-stopper and turnover-prone (14.4%), and gets assists at a minuscule 9% rate. Basically, the whole offense grinds to a halt while he does his thing. As I mentioned, he’s an awful defensive rebounder.
I consider rebounding part of defense.
Yes. You have to finish the possession.
The team has a chance to create its own identity.
Exactly. The ball- and man-movement offense that Danny Ainge has been working toward for these past years would not seem to have a place for a “black hole” like Okafor.
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Jahil Okafor is lighting it up tonight leading the Sixers in scoring and going 1 for 2 with threes with 2 blocks. Five for 6 shooting and 3 for 3 from the line so the only shot he missed is a three.
He dropped 20 pounds in an effort to keep stress of his knees.
I'm calling it now.
A better year and better career than Mr. Glass.
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Jahil Okafor is lighting it up tonight leading the Sixers in scoring and going 1 for 2 with threes with 2 blocks. Five for 6 shooting and 3 for 3 from the line so the only shot he missed is a three.
He dropped 20 pounds in an effort to keep stress of his knees.
I'm calling it now.
A better year and better career than Mr. Glass.
That's an interesting bet. It's basically a bet that Embiid never gets healthy. Which is totally reasonable.
The stats I saw show Okafor as having gone 0-1 from 3.
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Jahil Okafor is lighting it up tonight leading the Sixers in scoring and going 1 for 2 with threes with 2 blocks. Five for 6 shooting and 3 for 3 from the line so the only shot he missed is a three.
He dropped 20 pounds in an effort to keep stress of his knees.
I'm calling it now.
A better year and better career than Mr. Glass.
That's an interesting bet. It's basically a bet that Embiid never gets healthy. Which is totally reasonable.
The stats I saw show Okafor as having gone 0-1 from 3.
They changed the stat at some point. Probably a long two. It reduced him from 14 to 13 points
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When did the Sixers sign Emeka Okafor. It was weird seeing Okafor in the box score twice.
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vegan power at it once again
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When did the Sixers sign Emeka Okafor. It was weird seeing Okafor in the box score twice.
A couple weeks ago.
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When did the Sixers sign Emeka Okafor. It was weird seeing Okafor in the box score twice.
A couple weeks ago.
I think he's just a camp signing. He may still not be on the final roster.
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When did the Sixers sign Emeka Okafor. It was weird seeing Okafor in the box score twice.
A couple weeks ago.
I think he's just a camp signing. He may still not be on the final roster.
Probably but statistically it looked like he can still play (I didn't watch the game at all).
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vegan power at it once again
I've watched a friend lose 15 pounds without ever being hungry, reduce his blood pressure, and rid himself of arthritis in 60 days.
It's no joke the processed food we eat, including our meats, eggs, and cheese are full of steroids and preservatives.
I'm sure NBA level athletes, being serious about their careers are finding out that corporate food is killing us.
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If David Lee at 33/34 years old can be a valuable rotation player for a good team, there's still hope for Okafor.
It's not like Okafor has no track record of helping teams win, he was quite good in college and won a national title.
He'll be on the Spurs within 3 years and Pop will turn him into a nice piece for them. Wouldn't shock me one bit.
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Every time you guys see players with weight issues or ones who are just naturally bigger you always write them off as another Sully. There are hundreds of examples of guys going the opposite way of a guy like Sully, why cling to him? Most young ballers don't take care of themselves early in their careers because they are use to coasting on natural ability but they usually get it together at some point because they care about getting paid (winning). Sully is not the standard. Not every player is going to work at the level of MJ (wow) but I would bet good money that a lot more get closer to that type of work ethic than ones who go the way of Sully (he's even young enough to get it eventually/I think it's more than a food issue though).
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I think Okafor is worth a shot at the right price.
I feel we have a coaching staff that can turn him around, making him into a solid rotational player, plus he's still very young.
It would be nice to have a young center around to get mentored by a player like Horford, with Big Al not getting any younger.
Who knows what he'll be in a few years.
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I don't get Okafor at all not even a little bit. All the silky smooth offensive moves in the world but just does 0 else. Almost like he's not interested in doing anything but scoring the ball.
Watching him again in their first preseason he just watches the ball makes no attempt to get it. He's either calling for it or watching it. It is so blatant how disinterested or timid or whatever it is he lacks.
I get why people are hyped on him because if he does ever figure out how to get his motor going and play some D he'd be one nasty dude to have at the 5. But he's not so let's move on.
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The price is unreasonable because he makes $5 million. We can't match that without sending out key players.
Plus, it's obvious that Ainge and Stevens want their big men to be able to shoot.
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When did the Sixers sign Emeka Okafor. It was weird seeing Okafor in the box score twice.
A couple weeks ago.
I think he's just a camp signing. He may still not be on the final roster.
Probably but statistically it looked like he can still play (I didn't watch the game at all).
Neither did I but I did see the stats and I'm with you. If he can still play, I'd take a shot with him at the minimum.
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Another strong game from Okafor tonight
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Another strong game from Okafor tonight
Both of them :D
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I gotta give some credit to Emeka Okafor here, he did not look like he had 5 years of rust.
I did watch the game and he looks like a cagey vet bench guy not a washed up old guy. If the Sixers don't keep him he should have no problem earning a role somewhere else.
Jahlil Okafor on the other hand needs to stop committing flagrant fouls in the pre-season.