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Title: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: CelticsElite on September 18, 2017, 07:39:22 PM
Let the hype machine begin

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20668236/there-never-nba-draft-prospect-slovenia-luka-doncic
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: hwangjini_1 on September 18, 2017, 08:09:50 PM
It has already started, almost a year ago. Put me in the believer camp.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on September 18, 2017, 08:58:44 PM
I'm not buying the Luka Doncic hype.  It's very clear that he is a very good basketball player and will be a very good player in the NBA but I see role player/ 3rd option not super star.

There is no way he goes #1.  Marvin Bagley will have to be awful at Duke and Michael Porter would have to stink as well for that to happen.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: max215 on September 18, 2017, 09:12:14 PM
It has already started, almost a year ago. Put me in the believer camp.

Same. Seeing him in Cleveland would be the end of me.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: green_bballers13 on September 18, 2017, 09:22:50 PM
I'm not buying the Luka Doncic hype.  It's very clear that he is a very good basketball player and will be a very good player in the NBA but I see role player/ 3rd option not super star.

There is no way he goes #1.  Marvin Bagley will have to be awful at Duke and Michael Porter would have to stink as well for that to happen.

I'm not sure about him. I'm not sure anyone is sure about him. I thought Lonzo was hard to find comps for, until I saw this guy.

NBAdraft.net says Danilo Galinari. Hmmm, I think Luka is a better ball handler and would play more of a point forward role.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: Tr1boy on September 18, 2017, 09:30:30 PM
Ricky Rubio says hi

Doncic looks like a tweener ... Good and bad

If he turns out to be anywhere near as good/clutch as Manu
...
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: nickagneta on September 18, 2017, 09:33:17 PM
Seems like I have heard such hype on ESPN before. Hmmmm...let me think.

Emanuel Mudiay
Dante Exum
Dragen Bender

Yup, I have.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: ederson on September 19, 2017, 02:36:38 AM
Seems like I have heard such hype on ESPN before. Hmmmm...let me think.

Emanuel Mudiay
Dante Exum
Dragen Bender

Yup, I have.

That is true and misleading at the same time. Every year we read things like that.... But none had even remotely the same carrier as Doncic at the same age. Bender at 18 couldn't get 10mpg for annawful team , Exum and Mundiay played against nobodies

Doncic is a key player for a top 4 team in Europe (for second season) and just won the European championship being Robyn to Dragic' Batman. Who had a similar CV ?

He may end up the second coming of Milisic , I can't read the future but today he is the best 18year old since ever , at least in Europe.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: Androslav on September 19, 2017, 03:41:24 AM
Seems like I have heard such hype on ESPN before. Hmmmm...let me think.

Emanuel Mudiay
Dante Exum
Dragen Bender

Yup, I have.

That is true and misleading at the same time. Every year we read things like that.... But none had even remotely the same carrier as Doncic at the same age. Bender at 18 couldn't get 10mpg for annawful team , Exum and Mundiay played against nobodies

Doncic is a key player for a top 4 team in Europe (for second season) and just won the European championship being Robyn to Dragic' Batman. Who had a similar CV ?

He may end up the second coming of Milisic , I can't read the future but today he is the best 18year old since ever , at least in Europe.

Agreed with all mentioned, except the bolded letters.
https://ibb.co/g6sj8k
;)

Jokes aside, Dončić is going to be/is a gem.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: Somebody on September 19, 2017, 03:58:37 AM
Strongly disagree, no one will ever be on the level of Wilt as a draft prospect. I do believe that he'll be a superstar though, would be hyped if we got him in the 18 draft.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: gouki88 on September 19, 2017, 04:33:21 AM
I hate it when sports media say things like that. This definitely isn't just an NBA thing, as almost all sports media have elements of stupid hyperbole. I get that it's their jobs to get clicks and be over the top, but it's silly.

I love Doncic as a player, but it's not like there have never been players with skill sets like his. There have been prospects with playmaking superior to his, ball handling superior to his, and scoring superior to his.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: GreenShooter on September 19, 2017, 07:01:16 AM
I don't go on ESPN and read their articles. They're full of shet. I have a problem with them, their integrity and their content. They are a bad sitcom.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: Somebody on September 19, 2017, 07:04:43 AM
I don't go on ESPN and read their articles. They're full of shet. I have a problem with them, their integrity and their content. They are a bad sitcom.
They are basically the Lakers' mouthpiece, so I never put any stock in what they say.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: saltlover on September 19, 2017, 07:41:46 AM
I don't go on ESPN and read their articles. They're full of shet. I have a problem with them, their integrity and their content. They are a bad sitcom.
They are basically the Lakers' mouthpiece, so I never put any stock in what they say.

I get the ESPN-bashing, but this is essentially a Draft Express article, now with ESPN's logo on it.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: saltlover on September 19, 2017, 07:49:13 AM
I hate it when sports media say things like that. This definitely isn't just an NBA thing, as almost all sports media have elements of stupid hyperbole. I get that it's their jobs to get clicks and be over the top, but it's silly.

I love Doncic as a player, but it's not like there have never been players with skill sets like his. There have been prospects with playmaking superior to his, ball handling superior to his, and scoring superior to his.

Disagree.  There has never been a player who's accomplished as much as Doncic has in Europe at his age (at least in the era when Euroleague has been at a high level).  Accordingly, there simply has never been a draft prospect like him, from an on-court accomplishment perspective.
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: greece66 on September 28, 2017, 01:05:12 PM
@Androslav

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Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: greece66 on September 28, 2017, 01:21:29 PM
I hate it when sports media say things like that. This definitely isn't just an NBA thing, as almost all sports media have elements of stupid hyperbole. I get that it's their jobs to get clicks and be over the top, but it's silly.

I love Doncic as a player, but it's not like there have never been players with skill sets like his. There have been prospects with playmaking superior to his, ball handling superior to his, and scoring superior to his.
Disagree.  There has never been a player who's accomplished as much as Doncic has in Europe at his age (at least in the era when Euroleague has been at a high level).  Accordingly, there simply has never been a draft prospect like him, from an on-court accomplishment perspective.

Agreed. I cannot think of any other player with a similar career in the Euroleague ever. He has achieved more than Kukoc, Sabonis, or Petrovic at the same age.

Having said this, I think top European teams are better now at developing young talents than they were in the 80s or 90s. Also, back when socialist countries were around, avoiding military service was not easy (Petrovic iirc actually lost a year bcs of this, while Sabonis managed to dodge it).
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: mef730 on September 28, 2017, 02:00:34 PM
I hope he gets drafted first. More big men for us.

Mike
Title: Re: Espn article: "there's never been a draft prospect like Luka Doncic"
Post by: greece66 on September 28, 2017, 02:14:54 PM
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With Llull, Real Madrid's star guard, out due to injury, Doncic was likely to play extended minutes. The CSKA coaching staff wanted to test the teenage Doncic defensively while forcing him to beat them from the perimeter on the other end. Expecting the young Slovenian guard to struggle with the magnitude of playing in a road Euroleague game, CSKA went under every ball screen, defending Doncic "Ricky Rubio style," as Hines explained.

Doncic made 3 triples in a two-minute, second-quarter stretch, finishing with 12 points and five rebounds in 13 minutes, proving to Hines and CSKA that his thirst for pressure existed even in the Euroleague.

This is the game Hines is talking about. Laso's outburst in the timeout is priceless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8RjmJdW2Bs