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Title: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: the TRUTH on August 23, 2017, 01:11:36 AM
If Cleveland keeps this pick heading into the draft lottery, no matter where the Nets finish in the standings (assuming they don't make the playoffs, of course), the Cavs will win the lottery.

I don't buy the belief that the NBA never does anything to influence the lottery. With that in mind, this one seems like a no-brainer.

If LeBron decides to stay in Cleveland, then the Cavs either have an even bigger trade chip to dangle, or they can use the pick and select a potential star to groom under James.

And if James leaves and the Cavs use the pick, then this keeps basketball alive in Cleveland. When the Cavs aren't good, they draw horribly, and the league knows that. That's one thing that I love about the Celtics - even when we aren't great, the fan support is still there. But Cleveland will literally become the graveyard of the NBA if the league doesn't ensure that there's a young star playing there.

I hope I'm wrong, but I see this one coming from a mile away.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: GreenEnvy on August 23, 2017, 01:17:45 AM
No doubt it's a good pick. 7:30PM tonight is when the Nets became good again.

All of a sudden heaps of praise for Crabbe, Russell, Mozgov, etc.

People are delusional. Nets will be terrible, the pick will be a good one. Terrible addition, should have been the Lakers/Kings pick if we HAD to add one.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: SparzWizard on August 23, 2017, 01:25:57 AM
Going to be the biggest Brooklyn Nets fan this season besides Boston. Hope they start winning LOTS of games this season. And Pacers, Hawks, Bulls lose a lot of games.

I also need Lakers to lose most of their games enough to be the second worst.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: the TRUTH on August 23, 2017, 01:31:12 AM
No doubt it's a good pick. 7:30PM tonight is when the Nets became good again.

All of a sudden heaps of praise for Crabbe, Russell, Mozgov, etc.

People are delusional. Nets will be terrible, the pick will be a good one. Terrible addition, should have been the Lakers/Kings pick if we HAD to add one.

I was upset to see the Nets pick included as well, especially since it's completely unprotected. Very interested to hear why Ainge had to give up that much and what other offers were on the table for the Cavs.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: aingeforthree on August 23, 2017, 01:36:14 AM
No doubt it's a good pick. 7:30PM tonight is when the Nets became good again.

All of a sudden heaps of praise for Crabbe, Russell, Mozgov, etc.

People are delusional. Nets will be terrible, the pick will be a good one. Terrible addition, should have been the Lakers/Kings pick if we HAD to add one.

You realize it's a 'lottery', right ? Ping pong balls determine the pick location
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: liam on August 23, 2017, 01:36:47 AM
No doubt it's a good pick. 7:30PM tonight is when the Nets became good again.

All of a sudden heaps of praise for Crabbe, Russell, Mozgov, etc.

People are delusional. Nets will be terrible, the pick will be a good one. Terrible addition, should have been the Lakers/Kings pick if we HAD to add one.

The Nets will stink, there is no doubt but they won't be tanking.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: crimson_stallion on August 23, 2017, 01:43:45 AM
Russell has potential for a breakout year...aside from that there isn't really much hope for them tbh
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: action781 on August 23, 2017, 02:51:09 AM
If Cleveland keeps this pick heading into the draft lottery, no matter where the Nets finish in the standings (assuming they don't make the playoffs, of course), the Cavs will win the lottery.

I don't buy the belief that the NBA never does anything to influence the lottery. With that in mind, this one seems like a no-brainer.

If LeBron decides to stay in Cleveland, then the Cavs either have an even bigger trade chip to dangle, or they can use the pick and select a potential star to groom under James.

And if James leaves and the Cavs use the pick, then this keeps basketball alive in Cleveland. When the Cavs aren't good, they draw horribly, and the league knows that. That's one thing that I love about the Celtics - even when we aren't great, the fan support is still there. But Cleveland will literally become the graveyard of the NBA if the league doesn't ensure that there's a young star playing there.

I hope I'm wrong, but I see this one coming from a mile away.

They might win the lottery.  Odds are odds and unlikely events always have a chance of occurring. If they do, it is not because the NBA rigged it or because you saw it from a mile away.  Its because when you've got a chance you've got a chance.  Things can happen naturally too.  If I do some funky dance to honor the Flying Spaghetti Monster before I chuck up a backwards half court shot and the shot goes in, that doesn't mean the Spaghetti Monster put the ball in the hoop for me.  Sometimes unlikely things just happen by chance and if something has a 1/100 chance of happening, well its going to happen that 1 time at some point.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: Androslav on August 23, 2017, 03:21:37 AM
I am predicting Cleveland will get the 6th pick via Nets in the 2018 draft.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: gouki88 on August 23, 2017, 04:25:03 AM
Praying for Russell, RHJ and Levert to make big strides, for our sake at least.

I'm hoping for #6, but it could easily be a top 3 pick.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: moiso on August 23, 2017, 06:21:49 AM
No doubt it's a good pick. 7:30PM tonight is when the Nets became good again.

All of a sudden heaps of praise for Crabbe, Russell, Mozgov, etc.

People are delusional. Nets will be terrible, the pick will be a good one. Terrible addition, should have been the Lakers/Kings pick if we HAD to add one.

You realize it's a 'lottery', right ? Ping pong balls determine the pick location
It doesn't matter.  They will have the worst record in the league and that will guarantee them a top 5 pick.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: Celtics4ever on August 23, 2017, 07:05:58 AM
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I am predicting Cleveland will get the 6th pick via Nets in the 2018 draft.

If LeBron leaves they will get the first, mark my words.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: the TRUTH on August 23, 2017, 03:51:05 PM
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I am predicting Cleveland will get the 6th pick via Nets in the 2018 draft.

If LeBron leaves they will get the first, mark my words.

My thoughts exactly. The only detail there is that the draft lottery takes place while the playoffs are still going on, so there's a good chance the league won't know whether or not LeBron is planning to stay. That, coupled with Cleveland's miserable attendance when the team isn't a contender, leads me to believe that the league will influence the lottery (if it needs to) in order to guarantee the Cavs get the first pick.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: the TRUTH on August 23, 2017, 03:53:26 PM
If Cleveland keeps this pick heading into the draft lottery, no matter where the Nets finish in the standings (assuming they don't make the playoffs, of course), the Cavs will win the lottery.

I don't buy the belief that the NBA never does anything to influence the lottery. With that in mind, this one seems like a no-brainer.

If LeBron decides to stay in Cleveland, then the Cavs either have an even bigger trade chip to dangle, or they can use the pick and select a potential star to groom under James.

And if James leaves and the Cavs use the pick, then this keeps basketball alive in Cleveland. When the Cavs aren't good, they draw horribly, and the league knows that. That's one thing that I love about the Celtics - even when we aren't great, the fan support is still there. But Cleveland will literally become the graveyard of the NBA if the league doesn't ensure that there's a young star playing there.

I hope I'm wrong, but I see this one coming from a mile away.

They might win the lottery.  Odds are odds and unlikely events always have a chance of occurring. If they do, it is not because the NBA rigged it or because you saw it from a mile away.  Its because when you've got a chance you've got a chance.  Things can happen naturally too.  If I do some funky dance to honor the Flying Spaghetti Monster before I chuck up a backwards half court shot and the shot goes in, that doesn't mean the Spaghetti Monster put the ball in the hoop for me.  Sometimes unlikely things just happen by chance and if something has a 1/100 chance of happening, well its going to happen that 1 time at some point.

I appreciate the entertaining analogy, but a lot of people (myself included) believe that the league office tends to influence outcomes of games or draft lotteries from time to time. Out of the four major sports, the NBA is the only one that's ever raised that level of suspicion in me. Agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: max215 on August 23, 2017, 03:59:22 PM
Ehh, I don't much find the lottery conspiracy theories compelling. The pick's going to be in the top few slots by virtue of the Nets roster being hot garbage, not because the league is pro-Cleveland.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: Ogaju on August 23, 2017, 04:26:33 PM
Is it too late to predict it will be traded to Cleveland along with IT, Crowder and Zizic for Kyrie Irving.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: smokeablount on August 24, 2017, 10:11:50 AM
Cripes, double post.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: smokeablount on August 24, 2017, 10:12:14 AM
If Cleveland keeps this pick heading into the draft lottery, no matter where the Nets finish in the standings (assuming they don't make the playoffs, of course), the Cavs will win the lottery.

I don't buy the belief that the NBA never does anything to influence the lottery. With that in mind, this one seems like a no-brainer.

If LeBron decides to stay in Cleveland, then the Cavs either have an even bigger trade chip to dangle, or they can use the pick and select a potential star to groom under James.

And if James leaves and the Cavs use the pick, then this keeps basketball alive in Cleveland. When the Cavs aren't good, they draw horribly, and the league knows that. That's one thing that I love about the Celtics - even when we aren't great, the fan support is still there. But Cleveland will literally become the graveyard of the NBA if the league doesn't ensure that there's a young star playing there.

I hope I'm wrong, but I see this one coming from a mile away.

They might win the lottery.  Odds are odds and unlikely events always have a chance of occurring. If they do, it is not because the NBA rigged it or because you saw it from a mile away.  Its because when you've got a chance you've got a chance.  Things can happen naturally too.  If I do some funky dance to honor the Flying Spaghetti Monster before I chuck up a backwards half court shot and the shot goes in, that doesn't mean the Spaghetti Monster put the ball in the hoop for me.  Sometimes unlikely things just happen by chance and if something has a 1/100 chance of happening, well its going to happen that 1 time at some point.

No, it was absolutely due to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.  TAKE IT BACK, YOU'LL ANGER HIM  :'( and then we'll end up with the 2019 Philly pick.  Mark my words.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: PhoSita on August 24, 2017, 10:15:18 AM
I expect Brooklyn to finish in that 25-30ish wins range and yield a pick right around the middle of the lottery.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: smokeablount on August 24, 2017, 10:18:03 AM
No doubt it's a good pick. 7:30PM tonight is when the Nets became good again.

All of a sudden heaps of praise for Crabbe, Russell, Mozgov, etc.

People are delusional. Nets will be terrible, the pick will be a good one. Terrible addition, should have been the Lakers/Kings pick if we HAD to add one.

You realize it's a 'lottery', right ? Ping pong balls determine the pick location
It doesn't matter.  They will have the worst record in the league and that will guarantee them a top 5 pick.

Yeah?  Then let's bet $500 they don't finish with the worst record.  Accept or backtrack...
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: mef730 on August 24, 2017, 10:50:31 AM
If Cleveland keeps this pick heading into the draft lottery, no matter where the Nets finish in the standings (assuming they don't make the playoffs, of course), the Cavs will win the lottery.

I don't buy the belief that the NBA never does anything to influence the lottery. With that in mind, this one seems like a no-brainer.

If LeBron decides to stay in Cleveland, then the Cavs either have an even bigger trade chip to dangle, or they can use the pick and select a potential star to groom under James.

And if James leaves and the Cavs use the pick, then this keeps basketball alive in Cleveland. When the Cavs aren't good, they draw horribly, and the league knows that. That's one thing that I love about the Celtics - even when we aren't great, the fan support is still there. But Cleveland will literally become the graveyard of the NBA if the league doesn't ensure that there's a young star playing there.

I hope I'm wrong, but I see this one coming from a mile away.

They might win the lottery.  Odds are odds and unlikely events always have a chance of occurring. If they do, it is not because the NBA rigged it or because you saw it from a mile away.  Its because when you've got a chance you've got a chance.  Things can happen naturally too.  If I do some funky dance to honor the Flying Spaghetti Monster before I chuck up a backwards half court shot and the shot goes in, that doesn't mean the Spaghetti Monster put the ball in the hoop for me.  Sometimes unlikely things just happen by chance and if something has a 1/100 chance of happening, well its going to happen that 1 time at some point.

It does if you're a pirate.

BTW, the Nets will finish in the bottom 3. They're awful.

Mike
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: Irish Stew on August 24, 2017, 02:10:09 PM
It is amazing how much better the Nets became once we traded their pick. In all fairness, the Lakers seem to have more talent but much of it is still very young and their schedule in the West will be brutal. The Nets have less talent but will put up points and their schedule is much less formidable.
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: slamtheking on August 24, 2017, 02:15:39 PM
been saying it'll be a top 8 pick before we traded it with a stronger feeling it'll be top 5.  still think it will be top 5 now that Cleveland has it. 

Danny should have put protections on it similar to what Philly did when they sent us the LA pick --> at a minimum only give Cleveland the lesser of the 2 picks if LA's conveys next year.  why preclude ourselves from getting the top pick again? 

Then again, Danny shouldn't have included that pick in the trade in the first place
Title: Re: Prediction regarding the Brooklyn pick
Post by: JBcat on August 24, 2017, 02:42:00 PM
The Nets guards and wings aren't too bad, but man their bigs Mozgov, Booker, and the rook Collins.  That can't be it? They need to sign 1 or 2 more bigs in a hurry.  Lol